Catching fire SECONDS after takeoff! American Flight 1400

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    September 28th, 2007
    Seconds after takeoff from St Louis, Missouri, the engine of an American Airlines MD-82 erupts into flames. Alarm bells ring loudly in the cockpit, as the pilots grapple with the emergency. But they soon discover that this is no normal emergency. Within moments, the captain’s instruments fail, and the aircraft begins to lose vital systems. Will the crew be able to make it back to the airport, or will the fire spell disaster for everybody on board?
    This is the story of American airlines flight 1400.
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  • @GreenDotAviation
    @GreenDotAviation  Před 11 měsíci +83

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    • @jtestaccount2431
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  • @akshayshrivastava7252
    @akshayshrivastava7252 Před 10 měsíci +1327

    I can't believe the captain told the first officer, "hey can you fly the plane I gotta take a call", while the first officer was in the middle of... putting out a fire in the left engine. And they let the fire burn for another minute and a half

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane Před 10 měsíci +153

      The first officer should have clearly stated that he needed another 30 seconds, in order to be able to activate the fire extinguishers.
      Dealing with other matters, the captain probably did not fully realise what the first officer was doing and the stage that he was at.
      While the captain is in charge, he is not God, so the second officer should have spoken up. The captain did not sound like an idiot, so I doubt that he would have specifically told him to ignore the fire.
      In any emergency situation, good communications are vital.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Před 10 měsíci +59

      Both are to blame. Shocking airmanship.

    • @akshayshrivastava7252
      @akshayshrivastava7252 Před 10 měsíci +48

      I agree that the first officer should have spoken up. He did not and therefore was at fault. Also, of course the captain does not order thr first officer to ignore the fire. However, Green Dot says that when the fire broke out, "the captain announced he would fly the plane, while the first officer worked through the checklist". And before asking where the first officer was on the checklist, the captain asked him to take over control while he called the cabin crew. As Green Dot points out, this was unnecessary at this stage. Understandably, the captain was under stress from the emergency, and so was the first officer, but it still seems a bit baffling to me that this could make them tunnel vision so deeply into other tasks that they left the fire burning.

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane Před 10 měsíci +36

      @@akshayshrivastava7252 The best definition of accidents is "Things that happen to other people".
      They were both in shock, so it is much easier for us to criticize them while we are sitting at our computers.
      If you and I had been in a similar situation, who knows what mistakes we would have made. That is why communications and teamwork is so vital.
      We tend to be ignoring the REAL mistake, which was ground crew being allowed to take shortcuts, rather than finding the REAL fault and correcting it. Blindly poking a faulty engine with a screwdriver is hardly professional.
      But then. That is easy for me to say, because I am an engineer.

    • @cozza819
      @cozza819 Před 10 měsíci +11

      I'm sorry but what was stopping him from hitting two more buttons even while taking control of path of flight?

  • @KatoSento
    @KatoSento Před 10 měsíci +731

    It’s always awesome to hear a aviation problem that ended up with no fatalities 😌

    • @noahsichel7764
      @noahsichel7764 Před 10 měsíci +28

      I agree, but you spoiled it for me

    • @CARGRABBER1
      @CARGRABBER1 Před 10 měsíci

      @@noahsichel7764don’t read the comments then until u finish(pro advice

    • @Homelander_69420_
      @Homelander_69420_ Před 10 měsíci +7

      Spoilers 😂☝️

    • @nicolainielsen7700
      @nicolainielsen7700 Před 10 měsíci +40

      ​@noahsichel7764 No, you spoiled it for yourself by reading comments before watching the entire video. Gotta take some responsibility.

    • @noahsichel7764
      @noahsichel7764 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@nicolainielsen7700 no, I'm on a phone and the comment was unmissable

  • @casualriley
    @casualriley Před 10 měsíci +126

    "THERE'S A FIRE IN THE LEFT ENGINE!!! Let me go talk to the stewardesses about this."

    • @ustaarthur
      @ustaarthur Před 2 měsíci

      Stupidity at its finest.

    • @auddli
      @auddli Před měsícem +8

      “Brooo, Stephanie is going to die when she hears about this.”

    • @horohorosrin
      @horohorosrin Před měsícem +3

      This is like the thought process of someone experiencing a house fire in the Sims.

    • @ryankenyon5010
      @ryankenyon5010 Před 24 dny

      Monday morning quarterbsck. Not a pilot, clearly.

  • @Kerman_von_Braun
    @Kerman_von_Braun Před 10 měsíci +1076

    A rare case where basically everyone was at fault

    • @KillertoastGaming
      @KillertoastGaming Před 10 měsíci +73

      Exept the controllers

    • @suSnayC
      @suSnayC Před 10 měsíci +159

      what did the baggage do??

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip Před 10 měsíci +7

      Passengers on this plane must have been a bunch of idiots for not using Green Dot Aviation's discount codes.

    • @m.streicher8286
      @m.streicher8286 Před 10 měsíci +82

      I don't think the specific ground crew member was at fault. New hires comply with common practice because "everyone does it this way".
      Management was at fault for pushing their employees to cut corners. Remember the proper tool was "time consuming" to find and use.

    • @SpottinPlanesForLife
      @SpottinPlanesForLife Před 10 měsíci +3

      You spoiled it wtf?”!?!?!

  • @rickyrico80
    @rickyrico80 Před 10 měsíci +587

    I understand this happened because of damage by the screwdriver but if you ask me this is a pretty big flaw of the engine. This could also happen without the screwdriver, stuff breaks. Such a small defect should not be so catastrophic as this was.

    • @kirakaffee9976
      @kirakaffee9976 Před 10 měsíci +34

      was it the screwdriver - damaged valve or the disintegrating filter that started the fire? but ya, stuff breaks, and a sucked in little stone, bird parts/screw would handle the engine much more unprofessionally than a mechanic with a screwdriver. that thing didn't fail safely.

    • @mactep1
      @mactep1 Před 10 měsíci +27

      The problem was neglected during inspections just to be later misdiagnosed and then "solved" using an unapproved fix, which even that was somehow screwed up by the use of a screwdriver instead of his hands, I really don't think the engine design was the problem here.

    • @hmp144
      @hmp144 Před 10 měsíci +55

      ​@@mactep1But if there was no engine, There can't be an engine fire. They should learn their lesson and design air planes without engine.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Před 10 měsíci

      @@mactep1 The engineers who designed that thing, ALSO wrote the manuals about "Manual Start" protocols, and they SPECIFICALLY put in a required "special wrench" to do that task, another OVERPRICED and unjustifiable piece of equipment, just to do something "according to SOP's" that would only be slightly less than routine. Stuff DOES break, and wear out, and deteriorate ALL THE TIME... Why would you need a 10,000 dollar wrench, so there's ONLY ONE in the whole shop for a fleet of these things, to do a "manual start"??? It could be the filter neglected, and that's certainly a problem, and certainly contributed... BUT it could just as easily have been a wire cracked or a bad circuit board someplace that would keep the plane "in the shop" for troubleshooting over 72 hours just to find the ONE little twitchy bit in 100's of THOUSANDS to twitchy bits that went "wrong" and caused the conventional start to fail... The manual starting procedure SHOULD be special, but it ALREADY IS, just by the nature of some technician opening the cowling of the engine. Otherwise just make it as SIMPLE as possible to prevent the "wrench monkey" from f***ing up a 100,000 dollar engine for your customer, who probably keeps an outstanding MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR account... That wrench monkey only costs them about 25/hour, so he's NO comparison to an engineer, and EVERY SINGLE TIME you give a wrench monkey reason to bitch, you're GOING to get weird tools shoved into unique places to CHEAT against the engineers. It's the nature of wrench monkeys... even well trained ones.
      That's a design FLAW that engineers in something as prestigious as Avionics SHOULD know damn well better than to let slip into their work! Don't forget, these are the same wrench monkeys who probably got a reward when they "developed in house" a mechanism for using a FORKLIFT to remove and re-install engines on the Boeings instead of the specialty Engine-lift that Boeing specifically designed for the job, and highly recommended AGAINST replacing in any manner.
      Don't look for the FAA to interfere either. Everything that "looks okay" to the casual observer will pass muster for the FAA until something goes catastrophically wrong. They're the FAA and the government DOES NOT CARE UNTIL THERE ARE UNACCEPTABLE LOSSES/DEATHS... period. ;o)

    • @Palmit_
      @Palmit_ Před 10 měsíci +13

      as alsoways it's the swiss cheese model. but heck if i were mid checklist i'd swap roles, no matter the command issuer. I'd quickly say "standby ONE MOMENT while i finish what i'm doing" . i realise it's hectic and EVERYTHING is critical ... so to drop any procedure, midflow ... that's amateur. better to have a passenger in the F/O seat.

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Před 10 měsíci +148

    When he finally calls the deadheading captain up Im like "you waited that long?!"
    When I was a new captain years ago I was operating dfw-lga... I had a 767ER captain on my jumpseat, and we had gotten into a low fuel situation due to atc reroutes, holding, etc. My field of vision was narrowing quickly so I turned to the much more experienced jumpseater and said "I need your help."
    He jumped into action and started giving me a list of things to do, solutions, and things to consider.
    We landed in LGA with 300lbs of fuel above the minimum landing fuel!

    • @florisha4790
      @florisha4790 Před 9 měsíci +1

      But one simple question if you was in this position would you be able to handle this?

    • @valerieurquhart3133
      @valerieurquhart3133 Před 9 měsíci +18

      I commend you for knowing your limitations and utilizing all the tools at your disposal, which in your case, was help from a more experienced pilot.

    • @valerieurquhart3133
      @valerieurquhart3133 Před 9 měsíci

      The answer would probably be a resounding YES, being as he was a new pilot and had yet to pick up any bad habits such as the lackadaisical conduct of pilot and 1st officer prior to take-off. @@florisha4790

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 Před 9 měsíci +16

      @@florisha4790 which position? On the AA flight in the video? Or the ER captain on my jumpseat from my post? I've since accumulated another 4,000 hours as a jet captain so Im much more confident in my abilities during non-normal operations. The best thing a captain can do is to expand the team.

    • @helengrierson2978
      @helengrierson2978 Před 9 měsíci +19

      It takes a lot of bravery and humility to say "I need help" or "I don't know". Well done you!

  • @yorkshire_tea6875
    @yorkshire_tea6875 Před 10 měsíci +280

    Although the pilots were a little too relaxed and worsened some of their problems that was still some impressive flying

    • @maesc2001
      @maesc2001 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Nothing impressive in my opinion.

    • @jerichobeach2967
      @jerichobeach2967 Před 8 měsíci +8

      Too many mistakes to be called impressive. The only thing impressive is they didn’t get everyone killed which is in large part by luck.

    • @derkevevin
      @derkevevin Před 7 měsíci +9

      Yeah, i think they did a very good job at planning the landing under these conditions. Retracting the flaps partially to successfully speed up again, dropping the landing gear at the right time, etc.
      Everyone needs to keep in mind that it was an absolute emergency. It's easy when there is no stress in a simulator, but the captain probably just thought of getting all the things done that he needs to do. He obviously didn't mean to interrupt the first officer from putting out the fire. Also they didn't expect to lose their systems from "just" an engine fire that they trained for.

    • @selfdee7754
      @selfdee7754 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@derkevevin you right they lost their systems from incompetence on the pilots end. so yeah it wasn't just a engine fire.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe Před 6 měsíci +9

      I agree. It is astonishing what kind of armchair experts comment here, and obviously breaking sterile cockpit rules and not prioritizing correctly (dealing with ATC, Crew and the door) was bad. But it is still evident that they knew this plane, how it behaves, how it flies, they realized that the gear indication could be erroneous, they performed a go-around (unexpected situation within an overall totally unexpected situation!) etc. This is not like those Pakistan airlines guys that tried to land at 9° path and forgot the landing gear. It is clear that while they were lacking in some areas, they were very good in others.

  • @dasmellyyooper
    @dasmellyyooper Před 10 měsíci +102

    On page 13 of the NTSB report, the mechanics did exactly what Boeing said NOT to do when doing a manual start. This was a known issue in the mid-90s with the MD80s that Boeing addressed, yet the STL mechanics ignored.

  • @naifabdullah3465
    @naifabdullah3465 Před 10 měsíci +117

    I appreciate that you're not spoiling the story for us by indicating whether the airplane survived or not. I like the suspenseful feeling all throughout the video.

    • @ivandaniel2596
      @ivandaniel2596 Před měsícem

      🫣

    • @ryankenyon5010
      @ryankenyon5010 Před 24 dny

      It probably would have been im the nrews if it had gone down in flames in the middle of suburban St. Louis.

    • @Mansonglobal
      @Mansonglobal Před 2 dny

      It's just the comments that are spoilers 😂

  • @gernhard.reinholdsen
    @gernhard.reinholdsen Před 10 měsíci +60

    "The pilots could not get the APU to start"
    Isn't there someone with a screwdriver who can wing it?

    • @kirakaffee9976
      @kirakaffee9976 Před 10 měsíci +10

      sure, just plop on your spiderman suction cups, climb out of the window, plop plop to the APU on the underside of the plane (because on the upper side, you might damage the stabilizer and freak out the passengers, avoid the jetblast from the good and the fire from the bad engine, bring your biggest screwdriver and give it a good poke 😜

  • @leetaylor5403
    @leetaylor5403 Před 10 měsíci +53

    It shows how a non sterile cockpit completely changes the way a sudden emergency is handled compared to a sterile cockpit and why it's so important!

  • @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
    @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 Před 7 měsíci +90

    Brits, Irish, and Ausies saying: st. Louie is always funny to hear. There aren’t French here anymore so we just say st. Lewis 😂

    • @frostbiteyguy
      @frostbiteyguy Před 6 měsíci +1

      Aussies

    • @yvettenoland5500
      @yvettenoland5500 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Thank you. That was driving me crazy.

    • @tom6493
      @tom6493 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Because, despite there not being any French there now; that’s how it’s properly pronounced. Philistine.

    • @thepapschmearmd
      @thepapschmearmd Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@tom6493 except it’s not because it’s a city in the United States and is pronounced st “Lewis.” Maybe in French it’s pronounced Louie, but we aren’t speaking French.

    • @scribblebee5412
      @scribblebee5412 Před 3 měsíci

      Maybe it's because of Judy but I still kinda say, St Louie 😅

  • @minimap1
    @minimap1 Před 7 měsíci +19

    You have taught us so well, GDA... when you start saying at 5:56 that the captain commented on his retirement during taxi I immediately blurted out loud "STERILE COCKPIT!"... now my roomate thinks I'm weird.

  • @ronaldcooper7609
    @ronaldcooper7609 Před 10 měsíci +86

    Some Checklists require that the most critical steps be memorized and completed before reading the rest of the list. That would have gotten the fuel shut off and the fire bottles discharged in this case.

    • @johnh8268
      @johnh8268 Před 10 měsíci +20

      Agreed. I'm surprised this wasn't a memory checklist, especially since it's so short and practiced a lot in simulation.

    • @kevincorrigan1754
      @kevincorrigan1754 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@johnh8268them mfs obviously dont play warthunder bruh, even my dumbass wouldve had that fire turned off immediately

    • @adamw.8579
      @adamw.8579 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@kevincorrigan1754Exatly this: confirm engine fire, cut off fuel first, idle throttle next and release extinguishers. Few seconds to complete.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@adamw.8579 Well luckily you're not airline pilots (at least I hope so). Engine fires usually don't have memory items. Memory items are for when a plane will fall out of the sky imminently, with no time to get a checklist out. That was evidently not the case here. And one of the things these pilots did right, was to work through the checklist (albeit not quickly enough), and not randomly start doing things "because even my dumbass knows this" xD

    • @masih9595
      @masih9595 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@LuLeBeshut up

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Always a relief when everybody makes it

  • @migVs
    @migVs Před 8 měsíci +10

    That commercial was so Smoove 😂😂

    • @glenrosarian2352
      @glenrosarian2352 Před 5 měsíci +3

      The narrator started talking about what kind of carry-on bag he uses, and I first thought, 'what the heck does this have to do with the story'? lol

  • @toonieven
    @toonieven Před 10 měsíci +74

    What an excellent video! Professional production, riveting writing and marration but still technically robust and nuanced... Keep up the good work Green Dot!

  • @dimitrisblane6368
    @dimitrisblane6368 Před 10 měsíci +81

    My evening is sorted! Thanks

  • @harrygordon
    @harrygordon Před 10 měsíci +24

    If my memory serves me correctly, pulling the emergency gear lever would remove the hydraulics from the gear and the latches that hold the gear up would be released allowing the gear to fall using the force of gravity. It doesn’t take very long. Also, there is a mechanical indicator on the pedestal just below the pitch trim indicator that will pop up if the nose gear is down.

    • @LuLeBe
      @LuLeBe Před 6 měsíci

      Oh, it will take long. Maybe not "very long", whatever your definition of that is, but long enough for it to be unsafe at 1 mile final or whereever they were at. Yes, it "falls" down, but that doesn't mean it suddenly drops into place. It's like the hood on a premium car, slowly lowering itself into position, with gravity barely overcoming the friction and dampening forces of the gear mechanism.

  • @superweedenjoyer
    @superweedenjoyer Před 10 měsíci +200

    Congrats on 200k subs Green Dot, you deserve it. You're content is absolutely top tier, can't wait to watch this one. Also just wanted to say the "s" in St. Louis is not silent lol. Edit: Wow... the more I learn about aviation the more horrifying these videos become, this one was a nail biter

    • @ivy_tsb
      @ivy_tsb Před 10 měsíci +7

      bro its 199k lol

    • @hasithmalika
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    • @internet_userr
      @internet_userr Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@hasithmalikastill 199k

    • @ZombieSazza
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      Hey guys… nobody cares how precise and anal you’re being with the numbers, let’s just congratulate Green Dot and be happy with this accomplishment!

    • @lbdjthethird1240
      @lbdjthethird1240 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@ivy_tsbFound Captain Literal.

  • @marlonwilliams2805
    @marlonwilliams2805 Před 10 měsíci +5

    "Unless we're on fire we'll go to Chicago. If we're on fire we'll come back and land here" - LMAO I'll argue that was a PERFECT brief.

  • @base_beatz7988
    @base_beatz7988 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Shocking too hear that such experienced pilots don‘t see the risk in a fire while in the air. The fire can potencianally eat the whole plane and they just got a few minutes to get it down.

  • @Archerdon88
    @Archerdon88 Před 10 měsíci +73

    Been binging your content lately, love listening to it while I work driving for 9 hours a day, and strangely your videos inspire me to do my pilots license even though they’re about the worst possible things that can happen lol. Anyways I finally finished every video on your channel so I look forward to the next upload

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Před 10 měsíci +11

      As somebody who is working on his PPL right now I highly recommend getting started! Glad you're enjoying the videos :)

    • @kevincorrigan1754
      @kevincorrigan1754 Před 10 měsíci

      Ole psycho ass dude watching plane crash videos i could never fly if i did that 💀

    • @genettec
      @genettec Před 10 měsíci +1

      I think learning about these events either makes people terrified of setting foot in planes or makes them want to learn! I’m the latter, I love aviation. It takes time but when you do start, you’ve got this!

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    @neacsueugeniu9603 Před 10 měsíci +22

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    what else is there to say about your videos ,they re simply something else

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    @shreshthamenon9670 Před 10 měsíci +63

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  • @nickdarr7328
    @nickdarr7328 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Hasn't ever seen a cop movie? You never say retirement is close. Its certain death

  • @danielbuckland4329
    @danielbuckland4329 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The music you use for your videos fits so perfectly for some reason. It's mysterious, inquisitive, adventurous. One of my favourite little details.

  • @THlav
    @THlav Před 10 měsíci +77

    Perfect mid-day break in my workday! Always excited when a Green Dot video comes out!

    • @Luca124
      @Luca124 Před 10 měsíci +3

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    • @Leeooooooo...
      @Leeooooooo... Před 10 měsíci +2

      You could say the pilots also had quite the mid-day break in their workday

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper1 Před 10 měsíci +36

    Your story telling truly is second to none. Edge of the seat stuff!

  • @Hawker900XP
    @Hawker900XP Před 10 měsíci +6

    Amazing that an open cockpit door turned into a major distraction.

  • @darkfox2076
    @darkfox2076 Před 10 měsíci +17

    Great video!! Feels like ages since i had a green dot notification but definitely worth the wait. Thanks for all your efforts to keep me entertained really appreciate you buddy.

  • @hunterg1088
    @hunterg1088 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I can never get over how good these videos are… thank you!
    I also love the ones that are a little longer like this!

  • @julien_lemur2302
    @julien_lemur2302 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Only negative this channel has is that he doesn’t post every single day because the videos are absolutely fantastic

    • @fatrat6988
      @fatrat6988 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Oh please. There will be no way he would be able to post everyday with the very little incidents that happened in aviation. Also, posting once every week or so is much more exciting than being able to watch everyday

  • @jasonhoch7105
    @jasonhoch7105 Před 10 měsíci +15

    I was on this flight, and it was slightly unnerving. Started a history of bad flights to St. Louis for me as well. Many flights cancelled or delayed for equipment failures. Then several years later, I was on a SWA flight that aborted 2 landings, then landed at a different commuter airport just south of lambert (Spirit of St Louis). I just kept thinking lambert was out to kill me. Ha. Luckily, since that one, I’ve had nothing but good flying in and out of lambert.

    • @senorpepper3405
      @senorpepper3405 Před 2 měsíci

      I've never flown in or out of the chesterfield airport, just good old lambert.

    • @ryankenyon5010
      @ryankenyon5010 Před 24 dny

      I was on an AA flight DCA-STL in September 2002, and it was raining and foggy at STL. The pilot executed a missed approach at the last second. He came on the p.a. and said that the tower neglected to tell them that another plane hadn't cleared the runway. He sounded pissed and a bit rattled. Kind of scary.

    • @jasonhoch7105
      @jasonhoch7105 Před 24 dny

      @@ryankenyon5010STL seems to have a lot of weather issues causing aborts (like my SWA flight).
      Funniest AA STL story for me was on another MD-82 like the one in this video. My initial SWA flight had been cancelled, so I rebooked with AA. First problem: one of the crew was really sick, and called in at the last moment. We had to wait 2 hours for a relief crew member to arrive. Once we were all boarded, we sat there for another 2 hours for maintenance issue. The problem? One of the flight attendant’s jump seat wouldn’t lock into the stowed position. Maintenance didn’t have the part at that moment, so the flight was cancelled. We all got off the plane, and I had to rebook another flight with 2 transfers. STL to Chicago, to Omaha, then to denver. The first leg from STL to Chicago was delayed, and that made me only have 10 minutes to make it to the next leg. I barely made the connection. 16 hours of hell that day at STL. I could’ve driven to denver faster. lol

    • @jasonhoch7105
      @jasonhoch7105 Před 24 dny

      @@senorpepper3405it’s just a small airport mostly used by business jets. Very nice facilities though. Would’ve explored it more if I wasn’t so tired/irritated after SWA made us wait for a few hours on the plane while they tried to negotiate fuel at spirit of St. Louis (and failed…they then called buses to drive us to STL…without luggage…SWA later on sent a tanker to fuel the 737 and ferry it back to STL). It made the local news. Flight number was 3789 on August 27th 2012. What’s odd is no other flight diverted or aborted at STL that day. My friend was on an AA flight that landed 15 minutes before our first abort.

  • @AlexanderGeorge
    @AlexanderGeorge Před 10 měsíci +10

    My favourite youtuber atm, when it comes to airline incidents. Keep up the great work!

  • @HorrorFuse
    @HorrorFuse Před 10 měsíci +13

    Using a screwdriver instead of a required wrench to start the engine that way could cause big damage. Even if it’s just a tiny modification. And this big damage happened on this flight.
    Also great video! Keep up the awesome work 🛩👍

  • @auntbarbara5576
    @auntbarbara5576 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The vid I waited for! Thank you so much GDA, we love and appreciate your videos. You talent and hard work, research and personal touch produce such wonderful content.

  • @Alex-ub7tk
    @Alex-ub7tk Před 10 měsíci +42

    Love your content!
    Just a funny note - 'St. Louis' is pronounced as 'Saint Lewis'

    • @Bren39
      @Bren39 Před 10 měsíci +2

      He pronounced it like King Louis.. Europeans.. Sheesh

    • @gaylealleluia8392
      @gaylealleluia8392 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Old days people called it St Lewie.

    • @katsbreez
      @katsbreez Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yeah. I'm originally from St. Louis and hearing him pronounce it "lewee", was both distracting/making me chuckle and making me sing that "Meet me in St. Lewee, lewee, meet me at the fair..." song in my head against my will. *That is, until the fire. After that I was just blown away by what was happening in that cockpit.

  • @academictrailers3010
    @academictrailers3010 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Who doesn’t love Green Dot! Another great video fellas. Congratulations. Top quality work as usual.

  • @megyskermike
    @megyskermike Před 10 měsíci +11

    You and disaster in one day? [= So awesome!

  • @jamiecheslo
    @jamiecheslo Před 10 měsíci +13

    Whew! That was intense and harrowing! These incidents should be studied in depth during pilot training, engineering training and mechanical training. If it is already included, then it is not being reinforced enough. It must be drilled into the heads of everyone in the chain of command that cutting corners for efficiency and cost will invariably end up in tragic incidents. As was stated in the video SOP is there for a reason. It must be adhered to religiously. Thanks for producing another excellent video. Cheers from Canada.

  • @hallrecords5122
    @hallrecords5122 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Your videos are the best aviation material available on this platform. I can't get enough of them!

  • @marckhachfe1238
    @marckhachfe1238 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Ive only been on the MD82 once and i loved it. I remember being surprised at the sense of speed angle at which it took off..i dont know if it was faster and steeper than a normal plane but it felt like it

  • @BridMhor
    @BridMhor Před 10 měsíci +14

    Interesting, I didn't even know you could start a jet engine manually.
    I think even without any checklists the obvious thing would be to shut off an engine on fire. It's something you'd think to do automatically.

  • @sophiecat5713
    @sophiecat5713 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I love this channel the narration is easy to listen to…..even though I hate flying myself I get enthralled here

  • @neilcook4710
    @neilcook4710 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Man, what a rollercoaster ride!
    Excellent narration made this story extra-immersive.

  • @VerityFraser
    @VerityFraser Před 9 měsíci +4

    Imagine if manually starting an engine actually did involve physically spinning the turbine up. You'd call for ground crews to help start the engine and suddenly they're all drawing straws in the break room.

  • @Primus54
    @Primus54 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Another excellent production, GDA. Thanks! 👍👍👍

  • @embie5119
    @embie5119 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Just a note: it's pronounced like "Saint Lewis" not "Saint Lewie." Excellent as always, congratulations on your nearly 200K.

    • @kevincorrigan1754
      @kevincorrigan1754 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hes auurstraliarn bruv, they say saint louie.

    • @TheBlinkMIDF
      @TheBlinkMIDF Před 6 měsíci

      Accent sounds more Irish to me. And we pronounce Louis the French way

    • @alanmiller9681
      @alanmiller9681 Před 6 měsíci

      In 1976 when I was in basic training at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO, I had a bunk mate who was essentially a local hillbilly. I remember as if it was yesterday him telling us in the local hillbilly dialect about the time “his Pappy took the family all the way to Saint Looey!” I think he had never seen multi story buildings before! He had lived his entire life in the Ozarks. “Wee doggy.” Yes. Saint Looey!

    • @freedomofspeech766
      @freedomofspeech766 Před 4 měsíci

      @@alanmiller9681 I know someone called Louis and Looey is how his name is pronounced. It comes from French.

    • @alanmiller9681
      @alanmiller9681 Před 4 měsíci

      @@freedomofspeech766 Sure! I’m dusting off my HS French text book right now. Only 50+ years of dust on it. Ah-Chew!!!!

  • @dru5569
    @dru5569 Před 10 měsíci +1

    this is literally my favourite channel, on youtube i’m so obsessed with these videos

  • @ellisonketovore
    @ellisonketovore Před 10 měsíci +2

    Another incredible and detailed report and production! Well done and thanks!

  • @josephrobichaud5198
    @josephrobichaud5198 Před 10 měsíci +9

    This one had me on the edge of my seat!

  • @PauperJ
    @PauperJ Před 10 měsíci +5

    You always bring awesome productions.
    Creative way of bringing your sponsor's products as similar components of this video.
    I like the way you pronounced Louis, "lewey." On the West side of the puddle it's, "lou-ih--s." Cool to hear.

  • @martingannon132
    @martingannon132 Před 9 měsíci

    Really great video, I thoroughly enjoy the way you explain the details of the flight and the faults that usually complicate the outcome of the flight.

  • @peterj5106
    @peterj5106 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Green Dot is definitely one of the best channel's on CZcams.
    Second to none concerning aviation.

  • @definedasme
    @definedasme Před 10 měsíci +5

    You know it's a great day when Green Dot uploads

  • @calvinpog5915
    @calvinpog5915 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Great work as always my man! ❤❤

  • @dd5617
    @dd5617 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Double drop, you and Disaster breakdown both on the same day 💪💪 sweet

  • @gaiaiulia
    @gaiaiulia Před 10 měsíci +9

    Watching this while cooking dinner safely on terra firma! As always, a top-notch video, with great presentation and excellent quality.
    Congrats on the 200k subscriptions. 🎉🎈 Well deserved.

    • @tyguy3876
      @tyguy3876 Před 10 měsíci

      So you're not on the moon 😉

    • @gaiaiulia
      @gaiaiulia Před 10 měsíci

      @@tyguy3876 I was over the moon, cooking a lovely Indian meal and watcning Green Dot! 😄

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you kindly!

    • @gaiaiulia
      @gaiaiulia Před 10 měsíci

      @@GreenDotAviation Fáilte!

  • @bluesmoke8714
    @bluesmoke8714 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Still loving the way you tell stories, thanks for your time and efforts.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Před 10 měsíci

      I’m glad! More on the way

    • @bluesmoke8714
      @bluesmoke8714 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@GreenDotAviation it makes me happy to know you like that we like your content.

  • @Conn653
    @Conn653 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The Capt'n should've remembered 3 words - Aviate - Navigate - Communicate. He should've concentrated on flying and navigating the plane. The F.O. would be communicating with ATC.

  • @redredacted5474
    @redredacted5474 Před 10 měsíci

    This has become my favorite youtube channel ever, i’ve binged nearly every video in two days

  • @jayanspaliwal5907
    @jayanspaliwal5907 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The video was good and all, I really liked how smoothly you slid in the sponsor, kindly keep it this way for future videos, it's nice.

  • @flyingsausage4745
    @flyingsausage4745 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Why am I absolutely addicted to these videos 😂

  • @Success_Loves_Speed
    @Success_Loves_Speed Před 10 měsíci +28

    Was that a close call! Glad everyone made out alive. Great story telling.

    • @heidithompson6895
      @heidithompson6895 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Spoiler alert lol

    • @posticusmaximus1739
      @posticusmaximus1739 Před 10 měsíci

      Happy spoiler

    • @couttsie
      @couttsie Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@heidithompson6895just what i was thinking! 🤣 will no longer be reading comments before the video is done

    • @gaylealleluia8392
      @gaylealleluia8392 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah! Lol. You guys can’t wait to see the video first and go straight to the comments. Y’all probably read the last chapter of a book before you’re done too. So funny 😂

  • @CommanderCodd
    @CommanderCodd Před 10 měsíci +2

    Saying that these videos are a masterpiece is a severe understatement

  • @CzechAviationEnthusiast
    @CzechAviationEnthusiast Před 10 měsíci +2

    So good to see you make a video again, keep it up!

  • @bobbypoo6922
    @bobbypoo6922 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Love these videos but this is the exact reason I won’t get on a plane. keep it up, love your short documenting of plane errors

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur Před 10 měsíci +2

      If you ever are in a car (which is much more dangerous than commercial flying) I hope you don’t ever watch any FMVA videos!

  • @pnmb1
    @pnmb1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    These videos should be required viewing for all pilots in training.

  • @itserinx
    @itserinx Před 10 měsíci

    Another really well done video. Story was told and described amazingly. Keep up the good work!

  • @ashrogers1917
    @ashrogers1917 Před 9 měsíci

    Just commenting to say that I absolutely love your content. Your videos are fascinating, informative and horrifying at the same time. Just fantastic work all around, and I'm not an aviation head or anything like that. You should have a million subscribers dude...and you will get there. Keep up the amazing work, cheers!

  • @Zgamer328
    @Zgamer328 Před 10 měsíci +7

    This episode was one of my favorites!

    • @Cody_Prodz
      @Cody_Prodz Před 10 měsíci +3

      BRO YOU DIDNT WATCH IT

    • @Zgamer328
      @Zgamer328 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@Cody_ProdzI got to see this video before it was on CZcams

  • @avgeek-and-fashion
    @avgeek-and-fashion Před 10 měsíci +3

    Stellar content. Love it!!

  • @ifiwereme
    @ifiwereme Před 10 měsíci

    The joke about the weekender bag made me spit up my dinner. Lol.
    Great job and great channel!

  • @sheenodj
    @sheenodj Před 10 měsíci +2

    Another fantastic video. So glad everyone was safe.

  • @aarnililja5599
    @aarnililja5599 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Great job gda 🎉🎉🎉 Could you do Tenerife north airport disaster next?

  • @spacec0re78
    @spacec0re78 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Hey! Probably a question you've already answered lots of times before, but what game do you use for images during your videos? Aside from that, congrats on the 200k, I would consider your channel the best in terms of crash reports; Something to do with your voice and the way you leave the perfect amount of info in each and every one of your videos.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Před 10 měsíci +7

      Thanks so much. We use MSFS and X-plane for the videos

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Před 10 měsíci +2

    You don't uplaod as frequently as other ACI channels, but it's sooo worth it.

  • @martinross5521
    @martinross5521 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Excellent video, thank you for your hard work. Sequential errors find their way through to almost losing the aircraft and all on board.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Před 10 měsíci

      Glad you liked it. It really was error after error with this incident

  • @thechrisshow9476
    @thechrisshow9476 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I used to have a fear of flying and I eventually got over it. Now I have a fear of flying again.

  • @gamingpredator4226
    @gamingpredator4226 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Brilliant video as always. Have you thought about maybe doing a video on British Airways Flight 5390? In my opinion its one of the most amazing stories in aviation and i think it would make a cool video. Especially if it is at all possible to speak to the pilot (Captain Tim Lancaster) like you did with British Airways Flight 9. Ofcourse this is only an idea, whatever you decide to cover next, i know it will be brilliant anyway

  • @eddiego8197
    @eddiego8197 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video very descriptive and story is told in a logical sequence, very well done. Tanx!

  • @undyla-chan1675
    @undyla-chan1675 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The best aviation channel online, i love your videos!!

  • @superweedenjoyer
    @superweedenjoyer Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wow, came back to this video after 3 months. I saw a comment I left congratulating you for reaching 200k subs and not you're almost at 250k. You guys are killing it! Keep it up please

  • @Gonken88
    @Gonken88 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I like how activating the engine fire extingiushers is referred to as the "turd step".

  • @CeliLarsonient
    @CeliLarsonient Před 10 měsíci +10

    Not even a minute in and I get bombarded with someone saying St. Louis with an actual French pronunciation. That just doesn't happen around here. XD

    • @dannybau
      @dannybau Před 10 měsíci

      I find that most European creators will use a French pronunciation. American and most Canadians tend to use the 'official' way.

  • @autoknight747
    @autoknight747 Před 10 měsíci

    Outstanding narration which kept us in suspense throughout for the outcome.

  • @srivatsansc2953
    @srivatsansc2953 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Glad to hear that everyone survived.

  • @AgentMulder1805
    @AgentMulder1805 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Hard to concieve that they would be keen to take off with a dodgy engine in the first place. Pressure Pressure Pressure i suppose! Cheers Green Dot another great addition in the series! 🇦🇺✈️🇦🇺

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Před 10 měsíci +3

      It wasn’t a dodgy engine. It was a partial failure of the starter system. Once the engine was running all was fine. You may be surprised with what the MEL allowed when it comes to dispatching aircraft.

    • @AgentMulder1805
      @AgentMulder1805 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @EdOeuna good call. I know of the 'Pressure Building' effect on airline pilots! Cheers Ed! 👍

    • @Fairysnuff91
      @Fairysnuff91 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I think it’s more like having a car with a dead battery. If you can jump start it, it’s not an issue and you’d have no fear about driving it. The issue is only starting it.

  • @gametannerz1450
    @gametannerz1450 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I already know this is gonig to be a good video i also live ne stl airport (also we pronounce it Saint. Lewis

  • @glenrosarian2352
    @glenrosarian2352 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It just goes to show you that taking shortcuts like starting the engine manually against outlined procedures can lead to big trouble. In May 1979 AA flight 191 DC-10 crashed after take-off in ORD because of short-cuts taken in engine maintenance, also done against out-lined procedures.
    Then there's the violation of the sterile cockpit rule-- this was an incident that was caught. But what about all the other times nobody knew about?
    You would expect more professional behavior from such an experienced pilot.
    Kudos to the narrator. I was scared just listening to this!!😮

  • @lindseyowen9106
    @lindseyowen9106 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Love it when a new video comes out! Or am I just in love with an Irish accent 🤷‍♀️😂

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Unbelievable that the captain handed over control interrupting a vital checklist to do something so non-essential..

  • @borisbadaxe9678
    @borisbadaxe9678 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The engine is on fire! Electrical systems are failing! The nose gear won't deploy! What is the first priority? CLOSE THE COCKPIT DOOR!

  • @CristinaF210
    @CristinaF210 Před 7 měsíci +1

    i just found your channel and have been binge watching it, PLEASE make more videos, thank you🥰

  • @orionwesley
    @orionwesley Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love your channel, videos, and accent. It's all so riveting!! 🎉

  • @RebornRockerVids
    @RebornRockerVids Před 10 měsíci +3

    But did they manage to shut the door?

  • @srmj71
    @srmj71 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Out of all of these videos, rarely if ever do we find out what happened to the pilots. Were they fired, one fired, demoted, simply retrained.... That would be really nice to know. But I'm guessing it would be hard to find out.

  • @HaraldMacGerhard
    @HaraldMacGerhard Před 10 měsíci

    I like the way you start off .... if I don´t know the story, you leave me on a knive´s edge wondering how this will turn out... again you´re doing this.... Just gotta love it 😎