TERRIFYING flight | Engine STUCK on full power! | Cathay 780
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On April 13th, 2010, Cathay Pacific flight 780 began experiencing a series of critical problems with its engines, miles above the South China Sea. This was a situation the pilots of this A330 had never trained for. Would they be able to bring the aircraft to a safe landing in Hong Kong, or would they end up crashing into the sea? The lives of 309 passengers depended on their making the right decisions under immense pressure.
This episode uses the official report to piece together what happened on board Cathay Pacific flight 780, on its flight from Juranda international airport in Surabaya, Indonesia, to Hong Kong.
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Pictures from the Final Report:
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:06 Aircraft and Crew background
02:51 Departure and Trouble
05:43 Descent into Danger
07:29 Pan Pan
11:10 MAYDAY - Emergency Approach
13:02 Landing
14:16 Evacuation
14:58 Aftermath
15:31 Investigation
18:26 Salt water source
18:45 Recommendations and Improvements - Zábava
One thing I've learned from watching aircraft failure/crash investigation videos is that if the pilot announces they have an "issue" during flight you can assume it is 10x worse.
*small issue 😂😂
"Minor turbulence"
-plane's missing its cockpit -
*engine is on fire*
“we have a small issue with the engine, but it’s nothing”
This is yet more poor engineering by Airbus. I’ve never heard of this happening on a Boeing aircraft which filter their own fuel which Airbus apparently couldn’t be bothered to do. The idea of losing thrust control from contaminated fuel just screams poor design.
@@sharedknowledge6640given the safety record of Airbus and Boeing, if the former is "poorly designed", what do you call the latter? Criminally negligent?
this is the clearest, and most understandable channel on aviation. First class narration. No garbage no melodrama. Thank you
Thanks for the kind words 🙏🏼
@@GreenDotAviation 👍
Jusy found this channel a few months ago I've listened to to at least 25 uploads and i totally agree. 🇬🇧 👍
I agree, this channel, along with Mentour Pilot, are the true professional evaluations.
@@cogitoergospud1 try mentour pilot also
The funny part is that the passengers were probably so oblivious to the event, until they finally touched the ground, they probably thought that the captain was a terrible pilot, considering that they slammed into the ground. Little do they know he saved all of their lives.
I thought the funniest part was that they all arrived safely with no injury on landing but then all the injuries occurred as they slid down the inflated slides. 🤣
It's strange that the captain didn't tell the passengers to brace since there was no guarantee that the landing would go well or that they wouldn't overshoot the runway. They should have probably put on their vests too
That captains skill, including the first officer, saved that airplane. I couldn’t imagine the stress knowing your landing at twice the speed, one engine stuck at high power while the other is not working, only one T/R operative, and the scariest of all NO OVERRUN at Hong Kong, just the sea. Kudos to that flight crew!
Can you define the meaning of the word YOUR
in the sentence> I couldn’t imagine the stress knowing your landing at twice the speed ?
@@andrew_koala2974 Right? It’s ‘you’re’. How is this so complicated?
imagine if this was kaitek
@@andrew_koala2974 you must be fun at parties
@@ColoradoK_117These people are so boring imagine making a big deal out of this 😭
I really do love this channel. This guy has put me to sleep so many nights, with his calming voice and the cozy little stories about dying in an airplane crash.
Not me, a 21 year old girl without a sliver of knowledge about aviation watching every single one of these videos. I’ve learned so much, I watch so intently it’s as if I’m going to be writing a test on it 😂. It’s just fascinating, and the descriptions are clear and concise. This is the best channel I’ve come across honestly 👏🏻
yes omg
hii
my sister and i have watched so many plane crash videos that we have a bet to predict the pilots’ next move before the video says it lol, these vids are so addictive but low key educational, i know so much about planes now and for what
@@justinhamilton8647 dang
watch air crash investigation/mayday. same show just different regions.
I'm OBSESSED with learning about airplane incidents like this! I don't know anything about flying, I'm just a civilian, but I love learning and I love hearing stories about amazing flying skills and improvising in an emergency
Weirdly, watching them makes me feel safer on flights. I know these incidents are always a learning experience. I think aviation is a testament to what our species can achieve, but I wish we applied the same thinking to other disciplines like economics etc.
@@Kalifornia11 You can expect to run out of videos soon, if not already.
Fly the simulators. I don't know much of a civilian aircraft but fly a highly detailed fighter aircraft sim. This honestly since childhood is what captivated me about aviation. I started with stupid airplane games and wanted more.
EDIT
He flys MSFS 2020 for these videos.
@@Kalifornia11 Must have a nifty govt job if you could watch videos all day ! What do u do for work Are u a nite watchman?
Literally most work from home office jobs people will play something in the background while working
How the engines managed to run for as long and as well as they did for most of the flight is a miracle in itself
Airbus!!!!!
Would have been more impressive for them to just not fail in the first place lol
@@locklear308 your comment is quite dumb: Salt water was never intended to be in the tank and that's why it was never meant to withstand that. Put some sugar in your cars tank and see what that does! (no don't do it!)
@@yugantarfulecha
It had nothing to do with Airbus, & everything to do with the actual engine manufacturer - *Rolls Royce!*
@@yugantarfulecha or Pratt & Whitney? ;-)
The subtle irish accent is soo pleasant to listen to! I think one of the cardinal reasons I like this channel so much is the excellent narration.
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellently narrated. Really compelling without melodrama or sensationalism.
Thanks! 🙏🏼
What does sensationalism mean?
@@wtfman1217 its a message to stay away from intelligent pieces like this to you.
@@GreenDotAviation just goes to show crm works.
@@wtfman1217 just listen to any American „documentary“. That.
Brilliant cooperation, clear communication, cool heads, presence of mind, clear understanding of the aircraft and truly diligent training by each of the pilots averted danger to everyone aboard. True heroes.
Agreed but let's not forget/overlook the Safety Officers (aka cabin attendants) - they're Safety Officers, who never get the recognition/salary they (all) deserve...
@scott bakula I think 'sometimes' is the operative word, Scott.
@@daveroche6522 Yes, I agree and I didn’t in any way want to overlook the enormous importance of the cabin crew in aviation safety.
True, but continuing the journey was a mistake. They should have flown back to base when the warning came up.
@@mdaniels6311 no!!!
It was a wonderful display of flying skill and a very well deserved award.
Australians don't fuk around mate
the plane deserves an award too, it had contaminated fuel all flight long. It ran up until they were close enough to be able to land, kinda cool ngl
Australians are the kind of people who learn and get acquainted with the machine easily and with better knowledge than the engineers themselves ! They got a sixth sense of positively manipulating a negative situation and finding a solution with a genius Rationale 👍
Between you and Mentour Pilot, I don't need any other content. Great stuff and a serious situation treated respectfully.
Agreed
My two go to aircraft guys!
Same for me now as well.
Don't forget Disaster Breakdown
Absolutely in awe of both the skill of the pilots and the fault finding and alert technology on this plane
As soon as you said "Australian pilots" I knew there was nothing to worry about.
Why did this only affect this one aircraft? I'm sure that wasn't the only plane that was refueled at that airport with contaminated fuel.
Very logical question
Maybe that refueling guy did address the issue he was seeing and switched nozzles or whatever, but only after filling that particular plane up.
I don't know shit about planes, just guessing.
In order for the Jello stuff to clog the part of the fueling system that regulates the amount of fuel given a lot must happen. Maybe the other planes were just lucky.
Good question and Jens provided a plausible answer.
Probably, The storage tank he was fueling that particular plane from was likely near empty upon completion. Water of course is heavier than fuel and sinks to the bottom, logically, any other planes that were fueled by that tank before the affected aircraft avoided most of the contaminants. That is also likely the reason the airbus experienced the most severe problems at the end of the trip when its fuel tanks were very low. But, thats just one theory to consider out of many possibilities
A tragedy unfolded in the worse ways and the commended pilots saved the lives of all. Amazing work from the flight deck and the back and forth from ground engineers. Truly in these times a seasoned pilot and copilot. Today I wonder in 2022 do we have the experience flying and would the outcome be the same. Great research, commentary without bias in investigation. Thank you.
So I agree with everyone on how amazing the production value is on the channel. The voice, presentation, graphics, and storytelling...top-notch.
But something I don't see anyone mentioning is how refreshing, on a couple of different levels, the choices and balance of the stories he shares. What I mean by that is yes, he shares the more known stories where there was a big explosion, or it breaks up in the air, or the crash is devastating with a large loss of life (at least known for us who love listening to plane crash/aviation channels) but he also shares emergency landing stories, or crashes where most or all survive.
It's not only refreshing to have a happy ending to these every so often, but also I'm finding many stories shared that I havent heard before, which is becoming harder nowadays.
I think many other channels focus on the "devastating" ones, if that makes sense, which tend to be the most well known. A few I've heard many times from different channels (Japan 123, Tenerife, TWA Flight 800, etc) so I just really appreciate and enjoy hearing ones I'm not as familiar with, and find myself cheering when there are amazing pilots working together to be able to land a crippled or malfunctioning plane!
Anyway, favorite channel...one of the few where I dont think I would change one thing about it.
This channel is beyond good and deserves a million subscribers. I hope to see you grow over the next year :) fantastic content
Thanks so much! Many more videos on the way ✈️
Always suspected that the airbus optimal glide was the green dot inspiration! Classy. We’ll done another superbly produced and informative documentary video.
Much more to come in this vein! Glad you enjoyed it 🙏🏼
Holy shit. I didn't even realize I was holding my breath, but once you said all 309 and 13 crew made it, I bout blew the windows out of my bathroom! I bout started crying! Well done video.
I so appreciate a voice narrated aviation video. Many other aviation channels use text instead of voice narration and that makes it so hard to watch it. I think if you continue to voice narrate so well like you did for this video, your channel will grow past those who currently have more subscribers but are still using text only. I think you're gonna gain some traction and start gaining more subs at a pretty good rate of you keep it up. Good job!
Or the damn text to speak that no one likes listening to.
Buy a mic or don't bother.
A tribute to superior airmanship,
Australian pilots seem to be some of the best in the world, i mean you only need to look at Qantas' impeccable safety record - not a single fatality after WW2
Not to mention how pilots saved that A380 incident
I'm actually pretty proud of that. Like, it's something we legitimately did. Not "oh they have nice beaches" or whatever. "Qantas does not crash" is a fact. (I even switch to Jetstar in flight sim when I can't trust myself after a few... hehe.. don't wanna ruin their record!)
Qantas has had 3 fatal crashes in 1951 with a total of 11 lives lost. Previous to this there was a crash in March 1946 killing 10 people
@@cathybaldry7822obviously he means crashes in the jet age. The crashes you're talking about happened way before then, when all airlines had terrible safety records
Their A380 recovery was incredible. I can say that Australian safety standards are no joke. There is a very big "come home" culture in regards to performing high risk work. If you breach OH&S safety here, you will get the book thrown at you. That realisation of how taking short cuts can effectively end your life, makes high risk work be taken VERY seriously in Australia.
Loved this video, really informative and the simulator flight is a fantastic added touch. I'm now going to binge watch your videos So happy you popped up in my suggested.
Welcome! Hope you enjoy the other ones as well 😎
Hear hear! Nice to hear an Irish voice too 🤠
The quality of your videos are amazing, great job!
Thanks! 🙏🏼
Love that you show the cockpit and it’s reaction to warnings. Brilliant.
Been watching aviation videos for a while now and I have to say this guy is by far the best... Good video graphics, slow breakdowns he beats all the other aviators doing similar style of video
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the videos
I love Captain Waters! He’s an awesome pilot!🥰
Also, excellent and clear English pronunciation.
Very nice presentation. I never worked on Airbus, but I did cringe at that mechanic that kept pumping. Thats a big no no for other reasons too, as pumping fuel at higher pressures can lead to statis electricity, which can ignire the fuel in the tanks, as well as rupturing fuel lines, o rings, fittings, etc. Just a terrible ...mistake? Is it a mistake? I can almost guarantee that he didnt care and just wanted to sign off on the fueling. Sad thing is, that I have come across such mechanics, that would do a repair knowing it was wrong, just to get 10 extra minutes on their lunch break.
Mechanic? I've been working airlines
several years. At least in the US mechanics do not fuel. It's usually a underpaid and over worked ramp worker. They are trained but not all of them are exceptional at knowing how their machines work or warning signs of issues. Though your statement still stands, people definitely get complacent one of the easiest dirty dozen to fall into as a mechanic imo, . But if you see something always say something.
@@matthewhoward2343 I was in the military and crew chiefs do all the fueling/defueling maintenence actions. But even with our TOs and higher...lets call it quality of maintenance, you still get bad apples, and in some squadrons you can have just 4 people working 30 jets, at a very high tempo, post flights, oil, tire changes, pre lights, fuel, defuel, cargo (we still were the ones that prepper for the load masters), not counting any atypical things like landing lights, or God forbid a number 2 engine change, which on a KC10 is a royal pain. It was one of the reasons I transfered from that squadron. We had some civilians, union guys (which were also in the same reserve unit, which caused major conflicts of interest) that would clock out and leave us, the four of us just as jets were ready for their missions. Another one also transfered after me, and a third retired, and that forced leadership to change things up to prevent a major accident. At least my prior airframe things were much bettter staffed. Three of us per jet, and if something was off, the mission would use an alternate jet, or even be scrubbed. But yeah...civilian stuff scares me at times. I remember one regional flight that I had to call the tower myself to ground it over a floating spoiler. Maybe in the civilian world thats fine, but in our regs that was a major grounding writeup. Pilot ignored me, said it was fine. I disagreed, and being on the plane, didnt want to take that chance. (At the time we used the airport as well as the base, so I knew at least one military member was in the tower. Called them, gave flight number, and told them the issue. We did go back, and the RIDICULOUS thing was that it was just a bonding wire that ripped and tangled around the spoiler hinge and wouldnt let the spoiler fully retract. Its a two minute fix. Replace, retorque the fasteners and done.
@@RipRoaringGarage THANK YOU, SOO, SOO, MUCH, FOR YOUR PRIDE, AND EXTREME, SAFTEY, IN THE WORK, THAT YOU DO!!!!! I WISH, EVERY AIRPORT MECHANIC, WAS MADE, IN THE WAY, ON, HOW, TO TAKE UP, SAFETY, IN YOUR, TECHNICAL, JOB!!!!!
Let's just say, when flying from certain countries in Asia, you know you have increased your risk. I do it regularly... Well I did until...
@@Mugairyuiai I think I know the country in question. Although its not just one...
That is absolutely unreal they landed that fast 😳😳. Hell of a job
Excellent narration GDA. You have the knack of story telling in a clear, matter-of-fact voice and still hold the attention and interest. Superb. Visuals too are great.
And thanks for clarifying the origin of the channel's name. I was wondering about it for quite some time.
It's amazing that the lessons learned were done so without any loss of life. Well done those pilots.
It's your fault this even happened in the first place!
Oh, man! I hope that airport compensated Cathay Pacific for all the damage to their aircraft! That plane probably spent quite some time in maintenance affecting tons of repairs and making sure everything was airworthy. Where does the liability lie for an incident such as this?
Who knows, but the fuel supply really is shit
@@1mol831 sort of like gas now
My thoughts exactly. When you take into account the inspection/repair of engines, fuel tanks/lines flushing/cleaning/replacing, damage to the landing gear/braking system/tyres, thorough inspection/evaluation/repair of excessive stresses to the airframe/fc surfaces etc., this would’ve been very costly indeed. Why should the airline be forced to bear those expenses when the fault is entirely attributable to the airport?
I think they invented something called insurance for situations like these.
@Jens Nobel There is nothing wrong with insurance company's finding the fault. Who is at fault will pay eventually. If paid by the insurance the premium will rise. Cathay Pacific will be fine and not pay a cent. But their premium will also go up a little. Nothing wrong with any of it. The ones at fault will lose and have to pay for most. Everything is fair.
hey i'm currently going down a you tube rabbit hole. This stuff is as good as air crash investigation. amazing, im on your 4th video.
That was an extremely informative video!!! Scary stuff, man.
I’ve been at LAX for a year and a half now. I love the planes. These videos are great. Thank God everyone survived.
Fantastic job by the flight crew. The pilots deserve a serious raise and vacation.
I'm giving them an MVP trophy! 🏆
My very first flight instructor was also an Aussie Pilot who flew for Cathay Pacific!
What a great story. Thanks for a brilliant video and really nice narration.
I think I’d be pretty miffed if I had survived an emergency landing like this without a scratch then fractured my ankle and requiring surgery from trying to evacuate once the plane had stopped moving 😂
Well done to the crew - Angels in the skies for the protection of all these passengers on this plane!👏👏 - Glad the crew have been awarded!! Deservedly!!
I had the same problem happen once. Water had gotten into the fuel pump. Fortunately I was able to pull over and called a tow service.
What a fantastic success against the odds. Wasn't familiar with this flight. Thank you for posting.
Men what a story! The crew was indeed very professional, talented and cool. Fully agree they got the Award.
Once you have unusual readings for both engines is the time to decide on landing as soon as safely possible. That's how I see it.
Yep. Flight's over. It's all part of the job, even if you have to divert. Goal-oriented thinking is the enemy of process-oriented thinking!
You need to reach the destination at all costs
@@flesz_ no once you’ve taken off you need to land the plane safely at all costs. The destination is just desirable.
@@GlennDavey Absolutely!
I love aviation ! Great showcasing and accuracy , happy to subscribe 🙂
Wow these pilots are awesome I don’t know what else to say thank God for them they should be so proud of themselves and of them being able to stay calm and being able to land where everyone survived they are so awesome!
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Superb video!
Very well presented. So much so that I had a knot of dread in my belly. I can only imagine what the pilots were thinking. Great training and experience on a top notch airline (that hopefully survives the coming months...☹️)
This story is truly inspirational. It's just amazing to know how the pilots made it to Hong Kong. Hats off to the Aussie pilots. Good Wishes from Canberra :)
Thank you so much for keeping the narration on these videos layman friendly. Your informative easy to understand detailing keeps these videos interesting.
I love the storied where the flight crew prevails and no souls are lost. I also think it is creepy that they refer to people as souls.
Wow. And I thought I had seen just about everything. That final explanation was very interesting. Thanks for covering it in detail.
All of your videos are superb. The actual ATC communications are a special touch. I'm looking forward to the next ones. This channel is among the best - if not the best - on the topic!
The ATC is him reading it out lol. He said the pilots were Australian
@@jacksos101 Good point. Still a nice touch to read it out : )
Great video! Loving each new episode :)
I learn the origin of this channel's name & that Aussies got this flight down safely!
Outstanding performance by the pilots and terrific reporting by Greendot. Really top notch...thank you!
Love your clear narration and the explanations of aviation jargon!
Thanks! Glad it makes sense
Faster landing than they trained for, faster landing than the plane was built for... and what he didn't say was that the Honk Kong Airport is not all that long. It is on a man-made island with a steep descent over the buildings on the island. I get a little more tense flying into HKA. I like bailout room.
I love it how these videos are entertaining and offer a steep learing curve at the same time. Well done!
What? Learning curve?
I just want to hug those pilots for saving so many lives with sheer skill despite battling a completely new situation.. Hats off and great salute to them..I heaved a sigh of relief when the narrator said everyone was alive...🤗🤗
Good CRM... People at the top of their trade, getting over the line... Very cool.
Another fantastic, professional and informative video from GDA. Delighted to be making a small contribution to this channel. Keep up the good work!! 💪
Glad you enjoyed it, Gary. And thanks so much for your support, I really appreciate it 😎
Thanks to watching 5/6 of your videos I am now extremely confident I can fly a passenger plane!! Thanks for all the tips and tricks!
They should hire you! I’ll be your passenger!
those contaminated fuel almost wreck havoc, the facility should be investigated.. all props to the pilots & crews!
Excellent take on this incident! It just shows how good Cathay Pacific is.
Btw, that simulated cockpit seems to be of an A320 family. I only notice it due to the landing gear lights.
Thank you for sharing this great content!
Glad you enjoyed it ❤️ And good spot, it’s an A320 cockpit, with the A330 exterior.
it shows how good their pilots are, but the fact that those on land told them to keep flying with all those warnings showing up says enough about them. Had the pilots not been skilled enough this would have caused a tragic loss of life
Great content and the story was very interesting to listen!
Much appreciated!
It is quite unbelievable that in a twin-engine configuration with one engine in idle power and the other at only 37% EPR that a heavy widebody made it down at all - what an amazing flight deck crew! The thrust was barely sufficient for an A320/B737!
Highest quality aviation channel I've ever seen
Was trying to think of some constructive criticism for you. But right out of the gate you've put out perfect videos. Can't wait to see what else you cover. Thanks for the videos dude.
Thank you! More on the way ✈️
I agree this was very well done. The narration was spot on. I like these in the 20 minute neighborhood because they give me enough to listen to in one sitting but not so much that I feel like I have to devote a whole block of time to it. Nicely covered
Really like the way you narrate these stories. Don’t ever change a thing.
Thanks for the kind words!
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it! 😎
I’ve watched at least 10 of these videos and only just now realised I wasn’t yet subscribed! Keep up the great work :)
It’s never too late! Welcome 🙌
Just found your channel and been binging the videos. The success stories give me goose bumps. Great channel.
Only recently found your channel and so glad I did. The hard work and passion you put into every single episode is so evident, thanks
Thank you! Delighted you enjoy the vids :)
What S Hamilton & daz Mead said!
Nice video, as always, sir!
Thanks, man!
I have watched all the videos from this channel.. this person doing the voice over is a charm.. keep up the good work keeping us informed
Great episode. Thanks for sharing. Love how you cover these episodes.
This is a very good made video! I learned a lot here! Thx 😀
I’m glad!
Also you have just earned a well deserved sub ✌
You're an excellent story teller.
Thank you 😊
Absolutely love details and descriptions.Thank you
First video I saw from you and it is really good. Keep up the great work!
Excellent telling of this interesting story.
Thanks!
Another great video thank you for your time and effort you put into these really appreciated!!
Glad you’re enjoying them!
Thanks for this CZcams! Amazing presentation. Ciao. 2022.
Ver nice narration! Simple, informative without too much drama.
Not enough credit is given to our pilots. They do EVERYTHING in there power to assure passengers land safely. And these pilots did just. GOD BLESS THEM...!!!
We r on the same boat they are fighting for their lifes
Their power….not there power!~~😛
Wow, I'm one of the first to watch this.
Maybe just the first to comment, lol
NO IM FIRST
Wow I’m like 165th lol
Wow incredible! Seriously great accomplishment man. Something to tell your grandkids one day.
Iam 164,987 lol
230+ knots is wild! Kudos to these pilots!
Almost shed a tear when they brought her safely to a stop!
Couldn't the runaway engine simply been shutdown when they were on approach? They had APU and the idling engine for electrical power.
Right, that and the RAT would have allowed control.
What if they needed to execute missed approach procedure for any reason?
Better to have 1 engine at that known thrust level, rather than the unknown of trying to increase thrust on either engine, that weren't responding as expected?
@@hotdogtopdog Yes sir agree. that accrued to me after the post.
Extraordinarily difficult circumstances for both the pilot and Co-pilot both of whom were in their mid-thirties.
Undoubtedly an experience that will live with them for the rest of their lives, but will also no doubt stand them in good stead.
I am sure that both pilots will have been mightily relieved to have walked away from that particular flight.
They have every reason to be proud of their heroics and of course the fact that all 309 passengers managed to leave the aircraft alive.
Credit also to the Air traffic control and the Control Tower at the airport where they were eventually able to land.
Well done to all concerned.
Crazy to think that to be a veteran pilot in your 40's who can handle almost anything, you already have to have flown like 10's of thousands of hours by your mid-30's, and already have worked over a decade for airlines. There's just so much experience that has to be earned, and the learning literally never stops until you retire. Aviation is one of the most amazing things we do. What a time to be alive.
Excellent documentary. You deserve more popularity!
mentour pilot and green dot are the two best channels for avaitaion disaster documentary.
This story was also presented on Smithsonian channel’s air disaster channel. It wasn’t too long, but the longer the video is, (like this one) the more you know about what happened
Great video and great airmanship by the pilots!
Were there any other aircraft affected by the contaminated fuel, or was it just this one?
Could they shut down the stuck engines normally after landing and before the evacuation?
Could it have been an alternative to shut down the stuck engine before the final approach, thus landing the plane as a glider, or would that have been more dangerous than the overspeed-landing?
That's what I was thinking
I worked on the Space Shuttle program and it lands perfectly with no onboard power. It’s like a flying rock.
After launches, there is just one option in the case of a failure. It’s called RTLS at 100K (Return To Launch Site). If the Space Shuttle gets to an altitude of 100k or above they can maneuver the Shuttle back to a runway next to the launch pad. I worked at John Space Center in building 5 where astronauts train. They practiced RTLSs in the motion base simulator. I’ve flown RTLS maneuvers many times without any training and was able to land successfully most of the time. Only once did I make a ‘divot’ in the runway ;).
Having said that I agree with you. The pilots could have glided down except for the thrust in one engine being stuck at 74%. The weight of that aircraft is about 180,000 pounds. The Space Shuttle is 151,000 pounds. The additional weight plus the 74% thrust of an engine would make a controlled glide a lot more difficult.
@@Zebacha At the flare for the commitment to land (ie you’re not going around) select engine master switches off, followed by fuel booster pumps off). Deploy max flap & speedbrakes, stand on brake pedals taking care not to damage head on flight deck ceiling.
NB: To obviate the calls for reverse thrust, when you’re committed to an asymmetric landing, it is inadvisable to use reverse as you would not have full rudder authority over the engine thrust and risk a runway excursion, or worse……….(don’t ask).
Love your videos man! Your intro is what got me, and I really thought you had like a few hundred k subs. It feels like a aviation-focused version of Lemmino!
Great vid man! i just LOOOOOOVEE when people don't die on flight hardware failure.
It looks like lots of Cathay Pacific long haul flights are piloted by Australian and British pilots who are very well trained.
Note to self - "Small problem with the engines" means BIG problem with the engines.
Append "Don't panic nonetheless" to that note tho. Important to stay calm and rational.
@@EvanBear Remember: Panic is useless if you're gonna die anyway, so just accept it and crack open a cold one.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Exactly. Whether or not you die in that situation, panic will do nothing but make it worse.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 exactly. Maybe light a cigarette, recline etc
Great video.Glad the passengers made it. Incredible pilots
I accidentally watched your one video. Now Ian watching daily your video while driving to office and while returning as I’m an aviation enthusiast. Amazing narration mate. Subscribed as well. Great job
What? Watching videos while driving?