FORD MODEL A Transmission Cutaway pt 3 REASSEMBLY 735 tubalcain
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- This is PART 3 of a four part video series in which I make a cutaway teaching aid of a 1930 FORD MODEL A manual Transmission . Watch for part 4 when it is published
Part 1 -- DISASSEMBLY
Part 2 -- CUTTING AWAY
Part 3 -- REASSEMBLY
Part 4 -- HOW IT WORKS
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Nice work, Mr. Peterson! You do not have to worry about “wasting time with unpopular videos”. We who take the time to watch appreciate tye effort and high degree of skill demonstrated by all of your videos! The Model A was a staple auto for generations of drivers, and I am so glad that you have demonstrated and revealed the workings of a classic!
Thank you very much for your support
I can see why this gearbox is so heavy duty and well built, having to pull those heavy cars around for many years, thanks for uploading this series, a fascinating watch.
Model A's wasn't heavy at all. Thats why they were so popular with hot rodders. Could pick them up way back when for dirt cheap, they were light weight, and drop a much bigger engine in them.
The parts for them were built heavy duty because they were built to last back then. They were also built so anybody could work on them. Today everything is built with planned obsolescence with it planned you have to take it to a dealer to get robbed when something needs fixed.
@@user-neo71665 yep, you're right there, cheap builds nowadays
That would make a nice display piece. Complex enough to be interesting and simple enough to understand. It has some significant history with it also being a model T gear box. I'm sure a museum somewhere would be interested in buying that.
This has been a thoroughly enjoyable series so far, I'm looking forward to pt4.
The Model T transmission is not the same as the Model A. It would be interesting to see a cutaway of the T if Mr. Pete can find one. Not many of those left I’m afraid.
I can see this transmission going to your local motor museum 👍👍👍👍
Every gearbox, whether manual or auto enthralls me, they are just a thing of beauty, and engineering excellence- As a kid I would watch for hours as one was stripped down, fixed and rebuilt- I used to get teased about my obssesion, but I didn't care. I am now a retired engineer wirh happy memories of the helical gear. Kids today are missing out on hands on grassroots engineering in favour of computers doing the thinking- but computers can't invent and iterate at the workbench !
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Thank you so much for taking the time to make this series Mr Pete. Being in the UK it's extremely interesting to see an American gearbox from this time period. Impressive workmanship, very strong design, the size of the bearings and gears would give these gearboxes an extremely long life. I'm sure that there are many still in operation today. For the record, I don't think you've ever made an 'unpopular video', certainly not from my perspective. Cheers, Alan.
Thanks
The lighting of the assembly (around 15:24) appears perfect.
Thank you very much for noticing. I work very hard on my lighting
Thanks for the video. It's interesting to see how well this was designed, and remarkable that all the parts were made in the U.S.A. There are no foreign-made chips, just good old Yankee ingenuity.
I've actually had the pleasure of working on two different model a Ford's in my career as a automotive mechanic. They are neat to work on but do require that you have access to a lathe for a lot of the repairs. The shop repair manual explains in various sections about turning to length or diameter required for the car. Thankfully I have my own hobby machine shop at the shop so it helps quite a bit with repairs on these older cars.
Thank you as always for taking your time to show us these videos and now I'm inspired to take a more modern manual transmission and do something similar to what you have done here.
That’s funny. It’s hard to believe that a repair manual would tell you to use a lathe. lol
@@mrpete222 I'll have to look it up again and take a pic to send to you. I believe it was in reference to the steering shaft length but has been a while since I've worked on one.
Such a simple little box. The thing I hated the most rebuilding the big truck transmissions was the micro small metal slivers that would stick you at the most inconvenient time. Hard to see even under magnification.
Maybe someone can show the difference between a sliding clutch mainshaft next to a sliding gear mainshaft.
Paint one tooth on each year so you can count the revolutions and determine gear ratios.
Thank you Mr. Pete. Great series and a great teaching aid for a drivers Ed class.
This will come in handy if I ever have to reassemble a Model A transmission. Not likely, but still fascinating.
Thanks for another well-explained look at mechanical genius. Cheers from cloudy Vienna, Scott
Very nice, and thanks for the series so far, Lyle.
May I suggest that you do add the safety wiring to the bearing retainer bolts. Might as well be as accurate as possible if this is to be an educational display. (And I wouldn't be surprised if it lands in a museum someday.)
Thanks for putting forth the effort so that we can live vicariously through you on CZcams. Know that you are appreciated!
Someone was doing some gear banging. The old “if you can’t find it, grind it” method.
I like that you gave it the "short throw" shifter mod for drag racing. :-)
lol
Neat Tee shirts. Now you need to sell them that says “TUBALCAIN YOU TUBE SUBSCRIBER”.
Hey Mk Pete my mom worked at Highett Bearing when the war started then her and her sister joined the army air corps where they got there wings and flew planes around the country to bases for transport over seas that’s when the country was great and everyone did there part not like now a days God Bless America oh by the way nice job on the cutaway
I don't know about any one else, but I just love driving a manual transmission car. I can't explain it either, because I know that it is more difficult and frustrating at times, especially in heavy traffic. Thanks for these videos! Can't wait for the demo!!!
I feel the same way, I always enjoy driving my earlier cars with a stick shift
excellent. You're doing what my Dad should have done years ago. Thanks so much.
Hi Mr. Pete - Just a quick one to say thanks for ALLLLLL your great videos - I really appreciate them. Rod
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I love cutaways Mr. Pete, thanks
Thanks for a super explanation of the transmission's workings. I was always impressed when my dad took the top off a tractor transmission. I now know, there was nothing to it! Well, maybe a little bit.
I enjoyed the still shots of Ford and Edison....
Hi Mr Pete ☺, the old box is looking good, it's seen some serious use judging from the wear. In the UK, there was a saying when drivers couldn't find a gear it went ( stir em up, there all in the same box ) lol, looking forward to part 4, thanks for another interesting video, stay safe mate, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart.uk.
Very interesting how this has turned out will be able to see fully how the gear box works with your cutaways 👍👍 . Looking forward to part 4 😁. Nice still pics at the end. Hope your having a good weekend Mr Pete
This is Bill, using my wife's phone cause my phone isn't smart enough to do UTub.
I am loving the series on the transmission.
I also loved the program when you went out to the old test road by 80. I have seen those signs for years and never knew what they ment. Thank you. I live in Seneca and see them all the time.
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That Transmission Was In The Ford John Dillinger Drove In Chicago, Its Worth A Fortune!
I just have to say.....I love you Mr. Pete! Thanks for all you do.
Thank you very much
Great video, MrPete.
I worked on many Ford standard and automatic transmissions from the 70s and on. You are lucky in the fact your meddle bearings were caged. Most later models were not, they were loose. If you were lucky enough to have the correct dumby shaft it was shorter just the length of the cluster and allow you to keep the bearings in the cluster for instalation and removal. You had to count the exact number of loose rollers install them with grease to retain them and then install the cluster and also many times the input to output shaft. They taxed my patience many a time!
Good comment. You can be assured, that I struggled with loose needles many times in my long life, LOL
I would have been beaten severely about the head and shoulders had I labeled “Favorite” Grandson... (even though everyone knew which one it was)! Loved the series... how about a Chevy Automatic next
If you want to see the guts of an automatic please see "Precision Transmissions" channel.
The retainer scenario is an interesting and ingenious method.
Yes I thought that too. Very elegant and simple, not sure I could ever have thought of it.
@@thisnicklldo Same here. Never seen it before either.
Very interesting. That cutaway is just right for seeing the action. Thanks for another great edutainment video.
Thanks Lyle. As I own a 1931 Model A sport Coupe it is nice to see how the transmission works.
We had 3 speed aux. trans in 25 ton cranes that didn’t look much bigger. As Lipton says “nothing too strong….” must have been Hank’s motto too.
MR. PETE VERY GOOD DEMONSTRATION HOW TO ASSEMBLE THE MODEL A. FORD TRANSMISSION THANK YOU.
As you mentioned when you began, I find this fascinating as I had no idea what this, or any transmission looked like inside. I am anxiously awaiting the final episode as you detail how this thing works. I learned to drive on a 1959 Ford station wagon with a three speed manual transmission (shifter on the steering column). But I would bet that transmission was much larger as it also had "Over Drive" which I never messed with as Dad only let me run the car around town. But I would bet that adding overdrive complicated things as well.
Another great series mr Pete! I can't wait for the grand finale!! Thanks for sharing and take care!!
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I really love this series and am amazed at the robust simplicity of this transmission. I see you are sensitive to the overcut on the shift tower. A dab of Bondo would work a treat here.
My Freight equipment made of Chinesium came already beautified with liberal applications of the chinese equivalent of Bondo and looks great until scratched. Thank you for the labor and time you put into these instructive and informative videos. Cheers
Such simple mechanism.
Lyle - A good Saturday morning with coffee and your latest video. Nice simple gear box to explain how it works - and a nice job on the cut-a-way. Now if you could have helped me through the first one I was ever into - a Borg Warner T-10 back in the summer of 1969. The synchros add a level of fun to things!
Nice clear instruction.
Glad you liked it
Great Work Sir
A simple transmission for simpler times. I have never driven a model A but I would imagine that it would require a special technique to shift without grinding the gears as there are no synchronizers. Probably most of the shifting was done at very low speed and once you were in high gear you would just stay there.. I am enjoying the series.
@ Phillip I have never driven one either, but I understand that in the old days you had to do what was known in the UK as Double De clutching. I think you depressed the clutch, took it into neutral, released the clutch and changed the engine speed to get the gears running faster / slower, depress the clutch again and shift into either a lower or higher gear depending whether you were accelerating or slowing down.If I am incorrect with this answer, I feel sure someone out in CZcams land will correct me.
It takes you a lot of time to put these videos together. Thank you so much!
Don’t forget the 600 w oil that goes in it.
600 w is thick like STP or honey.
They never used 90 w in that transmission or rear end.
600 w worked liked synchronizer to slow down the spinning of the gears so you could shift.
When it gets 0 or below they are hard to shift until they warm up.
Beautiful! Thanks!
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Wish manual transmissions were still available. Scarce as hen's teeth on modern cars.
Once again, great job showing and explaining where everything goes. You may want to include links to the previous videos when you post Part 4 :)
Great series!
Thanks
When are we getting part 4?
Dang I was waiting for the demo run - (sniff)
Another good video.
Very interesting to see how it goes together.
Thanks.
Super interesting Mr. Pete, thanks so much for sharing! Dave in RI
Very interesting
Lovely tolerances on all those parts.
I'm a hobby machinist, but I've never been an automotive guy. Nonetheless, I have been thoroughly enjoying this series.
It is always interesting to see how mechanical mechanisms work.
Enjoyed very much. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Great looking cutaway
If you could turn that with one of your model steam engines that would be a lot of fun to watch! You know, if you are looking for an interesting video series to do.
If you used a pulley system and had a pretty low ratio the steam engine would be able to turn the transmission pretty slowly without applying enough torque to hurt anyone foolish enough to stick their fingers in it. lol!
Been watching your videos for years, you are very entertaining!
Thank you
Thank you, that’s a good idea
Thank you Lyle !
Thanks for sharing!
This has been a neat series.
Thank you for the interesting video.
Good video, next an automatic trans.
Nice job as usual. Happy 4th and stay healthy.
The shift fork pins are 99 cents a pop
www.macsautoparts.com/model-a-ford-transmission-shifting-fork-pins-28-24330-1.html
The aftermarket for those old fords is huge. You can just about build a brand new one from repopped parts if somebody had the money.
It’s still good. All’s you need is a little flex seal and it’ll be as good as new.
Started on episode 4 and stopped in the beginning when you said to watch the other 3. Now I want a car that goes up to 40 mph that I can fully service in my garage, maybe a street legal golf cart. Hmmmmmmm... I don't need to go fast. I just need to get from here to there for as little money as possible with enough stuff for the wife to be happy.
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Hard to believe that the simple transmission has not changed much over the course of a hundred years.
Mr Pete I have been enjoying your videos for several years and have hit the notification bell.
For some reason they only appear on Saturday. Hmm 🤔
Just thought you would like to know.
Keep up the excellent content.
Nice job, sir.
That’s a nice cut away reminds me of the ones from tech school.
Well done Lyle. Trouble is that you have forgotten to reinstall the Syncro Hubs. LOL. So will now only be a crash gearbox. Take it easy. Happy 4 th July. Regards from Australia.
Hi Dave, from Charlotte N.C. U.S.A. My first car was a 1929 Model A and I don’t recall any gear “crashing” at all. When shifting from first to second and third I quickly learned to let the engine slow down a bit before slipping the gears silently together. It was a learned technique that came with experience.
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.
Hi Lyle This is an impressive piece of work! By that I mean to have the idea and then skillfully do the work and share it with all of us. An earlier viewer suggested the trans be donated to a museum and I heartily agree. I wonder if the Gilmore museum you did the video about would be interested? Or perhaps a University? warm regards vic
The Gilmore already has two of them. In fact, that is what inspired me. I might see if they can use it at the Volo car museum
@@mrpete222 Thx Lyle Certainly would be great for people to see and appreciate and the Volo facility is well attended.
I agree
I'd of reached for the spindle oil can. And I don't like the white trim anymore either. One of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" things. ;)
Thanks, I hate hack-sawing! I don't know their shop manual, Sure it's not input or first motion shaft, not main-shaft?
If mister Stewart doesn't like the white paint on the lips of the cutting, paint over it with red or dark yellow. Ron W4BIN (like in the M. of S. & I)
lol
To the transmission defense tubal,we all show signs of wear.
Did you tighten up the bolt that holds the external keeper that holds the shafts in place with that fancy Dewalt?
Where is Henry to help you with hammering when you need him?
I just watched your Atlas threading video👍🏼. You mentioned 40 videos on the Atlas. Do you have that 40 videos in one list for the Atlas? Thanks
I was talking about my atlas course. That contains 40 chapters unfortunately, I have to sell it and not give it away
A7232 is part number for new pins
.99 cents eatch
At 16:51 I see "grandson" and "favorite grandson". That's a no no.
The cordless that they used was called a Yankee.
Henry Ford and Thomas Edison in the Photo - Thanks, Lyle - Two Great Industrialist's (That's Why America is So Great) Happy 4th of July and Remember the Reason Behind It - Declaration of Independence / Continental Congress on 4 July 1776 - The Political Separation 13 Original Colonies from Great Britain (Short History Lesson) No Extra Credit...
Love the Family Photo Tubalcain Sr. and Tubalcain Jr. and So - On ...Wonderful Idea - Have a Wonderful Day - Lyle...Stay Safe, God Bless...
Mr. Peterson, may I go to the restroom?
No, wait until the bell rang
Morning, Lyle. I'm going to the kitchen. Want me to top off your coffee? 🍮
reassembling it without the seals and gaskets, isn't it going to leak all over the place? ;)
LOL
Yes it will, but not half as bad as my Ford tractor
Well now,Lord, Mr. Ford I just wish that you could see.What your simple Horseless Carriage has become.
Well,it seems your contribution to man ,to say the least has got a little out of hand
Well,Lord. Mr Ford what have you done ?....Jerry Reed
Did i miss part 4???
I think because colleges are failing so bad to make young minds actually smarter the trade schools are going to come back with a vengeance. Because that is so simple I think that's going to make an awesome display to stimulate young minds and to show them the basics of how a transmission works.
You don't want to show bunch of 15 and 14 year olds a cutaway of a 14 speed automatic computer-controlled transmission you want to show them that thing.
Yes
Hi Mr Pete are the gears cast iron and if so do you think they were hardened . Looks good maybe silver paint instead of white. So now what will you do with it .
Hi Lyle, it's coming along nicely mate, about 40 years ago a mate did a cutaway Honda 2 cylinder bike engine
I think it was a 250cc
He painted the cut surfaces blue and red, he took hours and hours to do it. I loved the visual understanding it gives you when you look on and watch it in a way that normally you can only dream it is working.
I came across
Joe Pieczynzski showing off
His machine shop skills
Building this
Smallest Functional Lathe You May Ever See !!
czcams.com/video/NO6l41ZGSBQ/video.html
So far his series is absolutely fascinating Lyle, I think if you haven't already, check it out
And he is doing it all with full sized machines!
Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
this transmission can no longer be used... somebody cut it in half
Come on Man. You can do better than this. I will not be watching this.
I tried to watch the first part and this does not work for me. Are you out of ideas? I hope you have a safe summer. WE have had temperatures of nearly 50c here in Western Canada.