Tony used to do standup apparently. He’s phenomenal at conveying Callum’s raw emotional strength and pain, but comedy is kind of ingrained in his manners and I love him for it. When Callum first appeared he was this awkward, wide-eyed goofball who did slapstick and physical comedy with exquisite timing, bouncing of Linda and Mick with one liners and deer-in-headlights-looks. He’s a treasure and a damn good actor.
We've seen Callum upset, no doubt. Hurt. Dissapointed. But never this angry. Even in the "what about me" arguement when he saw Ben upset and crying he went to him. He held and comforted him. This time it's different. He's put a wall up and it's heartbreaking because he doesn't know the whole truth. 💔
The way Lewis talks and acts, I believe that Ben isn't his first. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Lewis has multiple men out there that he's assaulted. And that's found out that he's moved around a lot because of that fact. Perhaps Lewis isn't even his real name and went they start to look into him they find that out?
I don't think he plan to get raped no one does. He thought his married was over but then came to senses when saw the picture. He shouldn't of done the first bit that was wrong but he didn't deserve to get raped and did plan it.
@@juliewinfield5986 No one is saying Ben "planned" to get assaulted... we're going by what Callum knows in this context... which means that Callum is right when he said that Ben "planned" to download the app and then find Lewis on it to hookup with him... which constitute Ben cheating on Callum... regardless of him getting assaulted or not.
@@ajraven5145 no he didn’t plan to see Lewis . He was angry but he was drunk and never wanted sex with him he was drunk and didn’t know wat he was saying
@@ajraven5145 okay. But he didn't cheat on him as he change him mind . Yeah he kissed him and he shouldn't of done that but callum forgive him for that. But now he think he's cheating by sleeping with him when he didn't. Hopefully when he finds out the truth he be there for him.
@@juliewinfield5986: Not everyone’s okay with their HUSBAND kissing other men, it’s still cheating. Lmao especially since Callum made an issue about it before with the same guy. Then you go right back to him and do it again? Lmao no, Callum needs to just wash his hands of Ben.
Wow wow wow poor Callum🥺 And Ben can’t do nothing but just stand their and take the truth. That he was the one who initiated the contact with Lewis. Callum has every right to feel hurt.
@@justalex3525 not denying that he was taken advantage of BUT he has to be in honest in the role that he played and what led up to that. Lewis didn’t drug him or kidnap him, Ben went to Lewis seeking to have sex because he was pissed off with Callum saying to then just go with Lewis then. Not excusing what Lewis did but Ben isn’t completely innocent either
If the 2 of them can get through this, then after, their marriage will be stronger more than ever, and Ben might finally change for the better, their relationship will be healthier and a lot less toxic, their communication must improve a whole lot in the mean time, I’m glad to see that Ben said we need to and we can get through this together, that’s the little hope still remain inside his heart now, unfortunately right now Callum is still in the emotional pain of just finding out about the cheating part, he didn’t know the assault part yet, let’s wait till Callum knows the truth, then let’s see how he will react, would he come to Ben and help him through this together? We shall see, until then, right now it’s too early to tell anything just yet because everything is still in the dark!
@@theresabruebaker1030 the 2 of them are far from over, guaranteed! There’s still pretty much deep love and strong feelings between them, and you don’t just get over this kind of feelings easily and quickly, it’s not like for people who dated couple times or just a fling, a little crush, even if Callum right now he doesn’t know the truth, he’s in pain and he might want a distraction, he would not get over Ben and fall for another person, it’s impossible, it would take a long time that’s if the truth doesn’t come out hypothetically, it would still take months or even years for him to get over Ben; not to mention that the truth will definitely come out, and Callum will be there for Ben no matter what, we already saw his anger towards Lewis today; imagine when he found out the truth about Ben’s assault, he would go out for blood this time, even though he knows he’s a cop and he shouldn’t do that, but the deep feelings he has for Ben probably will win over the logical reasoning, because who can blame him, emotions would definitely take over, but more importantly, he will be a safe harbor that Ben can rest and rely on, making Ben feel safe because right now Ben doesn’t feel safe and doesn’t feel like he has anyone let’s be honest; to get through trauma like sexual assault, an important step is to feel safe and be able to trust people again, and that would not be possible without around the people that Ben loves and can rely on… so I do hope the writers would send out a positive message out of this whole thing, that couples do come out this successfully and piece back together, instead of just bringing more darkness and suffering; I mean soap does want to educate people but it’s also important to bring out some light out of the negative stuff and it gives people hope especially for those who are currently in crisis, it gives them courage and hope, and that’s really crucial, so I hope the writers realize that and can go towards the positive way, instead of destroy ballum even more by bringing whatever more drama after this now that Callum wants a divorce, please no more drama after this, let’s focus on how to get Ben to open up, and let the family all support him and help him!💗💗💖💖😊🤗🤗🤗😇😇😇😇😇😇
@@chenzhou7288 Sadly, Ben goes and does it again this week (w/c 18/7/22) with "James" an old school friend (I always thought Ben was lonely, sad and isolated at school?)
Ok I watched this scene like more than 10 times over and I noticed that Ben defended Lewis (be angry at me but don't be angry with Lewis) that's why I realised that Cal notice that too and called it quits.
"Young, free and single." Callum is right, the fact that Ben kissed Lewis was way worse, because he's a married man! And he shouldn't have ever went on that app, he wasn't drunk when he was swapping away. Also, Ben should've picked anyone but Lewis, because it seems like their first kiss wasn't just because he was drunk.
Correct! As Callum said during the confrontation with Ben, he did this with intent. He planned to cheat -- just a couple of days after saying to Callum “I’d never cheat on you.”
@@nesa2000 Outside of the kiss which shouldn't have happened (it really shouldn't), Ben thought his relationship was over when he went for Lewis on the app, Ben's emotional state is way too often overreacting for sure, but he really did think it was over untill he saw that text from Callum and Lexi.
Also, he showed Callum he had deleted the app … and clearly he hadn’t. Also, after the rape he started seeking our random, anonymous sex. I don’t know the dynamics of what happens to the victim, post-rape, but random sex seems unlikely.
Painful to watch. Callum finally not being a doormat. So yay for that! However, this is a soap opera and Brit soap operas have a regular habit of always showing tragic gay characters. EE has been pretty good with the detail of this storyline, but I must admit, had this been solely an instance of cheating, many gay male couples work through infidelity (usually in the first few years of their relationships) and if they "get through this" as Ben said, then they last a long time together. Since the '70s and '80s gay men have learned that trying to purely adopt heteronormative ways of coupling more often than not doesn't work in practice. Add in the rape and you have to wonder, yes, Callum will likely be very upset and may even get violent towards Lewis, but will he also be able to get over Ben's original intent (i.e. the app and all). The characters are in their late 20s early 30s, so I'm not sure if gay men in these age groups are self-aware enough to understand that monogamy is nice in theory, but it isn't always true in practice. EE would be foolish to not bring Callum and Ben back together. Surely this show can finally have Ben grow up and write creative storylines for Ben and Callum without it always having to be dark and tragic. I'm not asking EE to rise to the excellence of Schitt's Creek, but this storyline so far has shown they have the sophistication to be even better, and they have excellent actors in Tony Clay and Max Bowden to bring it to life.
Why is being monogamous unpractical in the lqbtq community? I don’t understand it.. why is it so hard to only be involved with one person? Like, you can always find people attractive but why does it mean you have to sleep with them? Like why? I’ve never understood that.. maybe it’s something deeper issue that’s rooted but tbh it’s not cute at all. It’s actually disturbing..
@@MJC8638 i understand what you mean, but the topic of whether to be monogamous or not should've been discussed much earlier in Ben and Callum's relationship, when they were first starting to get really serious about each other. Clearly, for people like Ben's character, monogamy is a struggle, even though they may deeply love their partner. This situation and others in Ben's past clearly show that monogamy isn't right for everyone, and that's just as valid as people who prefer a monogamous relationship.
@@MJC8638 Gay men are still men. Ben and Callum are young gay men in their 20s and early 30s. Very unrealistic for two young gay men to be totally monogamous. In the straight world women have the say whether a man gets sex or not. In the gay male community since it is males getting sex is easier. This is the reason In the western world bathhouses are very popular. Gay men understand the difference between love and sex. The monogamy ideal is a heteronormative one. I doubt show will go there but if Ben and Callum to work needs to be agreement about an open marriage. Ben did cheat he is young gay male to expect monogamy in a 20 something gay man even in marriage is unrealistic.
AMAZING. Thank you Callum for saying all of that. While I hope Callum is there for Ben as a friend, I really hope this is the end for them because they are just not compatible together.
I feel like even if he knew the truth about what happened with ben, ben did initially want to have sex with lewis and the intent and the actions that followed is already cheating. As much as i love ben and callum together, callums hurt is still valid
@@jameliakingstom1190 yes. He downloaded an app. Messaged a guy. Flirted with the guy. Snogged and made out with guy. He said no in thr end but before that he was cheating on his husband
I think Ben also made it worse by talking about Lewis so much "he's not going to say anything, you don't have to worry about him", it really felt like he was throwing him in his face, showing him he knows Lewis really welll and that they're closer than they really are ...
Absolutely right Ms. Wilson. Since the day of the proposed 3some that Callum didn't realize what the dude was saying. We know the couple lives each other, But, Ben lives the ghost of his past more. Paul namely. Everything comes back to that. We need to see Callum with someone else, He can come back to Ben latter, I feel sorry for Ben's daughter, But, she's use to this with her mother, grandmother and grandfather. She says love never last. I want to see Callum happy with someone even a woman where Ben will really feels he's gone.
You speak the truth, My husband and I have been together 26yrs this year he's nearly 20yrs older than me, Older gay men like older straight pluck us off the vine so we fulfill thier fantasy, While still being green we fall for it. While they are ready to settle they want you to do what they couldn't in their 20s settle. So of course your still searching for what who knows, But, if you want to keep him/her let them. You didn't invent lies and sneaking around. He lived his life I lived mine. Then when all the running around was over he remained. Now another dude in the streets or anywhere is just someone who will talk too much while the game is on. We are settled. And, he and I are home to the other.
Que diabo de homem é Ben? Porquê ele não consegue falar a real para Callum? Pois a verdade é libertadora. Callum com certeza absoluta vai poder ajudar Ben.
That's serious when he goes back his wedding rings maybe they should break up give him a chance to take a break from each other maybe they will get back together or not at least they tried marriage and it didn't work out for them
So Callum cry over this but knowing his marriage is over he doesn’t seem bother he party with wit now with all Calum and ben family saying they something wrong with Ben really Callum you might be over but Aleast be friend Ben come on tell Callum he won’t reget punching him you need him
I really don’t want to see another rape storyline dragged out, I know the point is they are supposed to be uncomfortable and reflect how difficult it is to come forward incase they are not believed but that narrative has been done to death not only on Eastenders but other soaps. I just hope it isn’t weeks before Ben tells someone
@@rosiegiesler4705 I seem to recall Coronation Street had a huge storyline with David Platt being raped? Im not saying this shouldn’t be a storyline btw, Im just saying I hope Ben coming forward about it doesn’t get drawn out the same as most others storylines of this nature do in Eastenders.
@@StormStar626 different show. I don’t really know what your point is? The writers are going to be different their not going to go onto coronation to see what’s been done before because they couldn’t give a shit as long as to not been done on Eastenders. I don’t watch coronation street or Hollyoaks or any other soap opera. And tbh I only watch EE because I’ve been in the show before when I was younger so feel a strong connection to it and the characters. If you watch loads of soap operas and the storylines become extremely similar that’s your problem not theirs because their writers for their shows not every single viewer who watches multiple shows.
@@rosiegiesler4705 well if you read my original comment my point was “Eastenders AND other soaps” I don’t watch many other soaps either but the David Platt storyline was MASSIVE and one of the most talked about so you best be sure the writers of Eastenders will be giving a shit to what other soaps are doing because they will not want to be seen as copying storylines. WHICH im not saying this is doing that at all, but I am addressing the point you made about soap writers not caring about storylines from other soaps (trust me they do, they more or less have to). Clearly you think im just saying this is a bad storyline and I don’t want to see it. Which was NOT what I said let me make my meaning clearer; Rape storylines are not a new thing in television let alone soaps whether its male on female, female on male, male on male, female on female. If anything I would say when it comes to this type of storyline I am all for bringing more attention towards the latter 3 of those. However in Eastenders in particular there is a particular formula they seem to go with and with such a sensitive topic I don’t thing they should be recycling the same formula over and over and this is the formula they go with; The audience either sees the character raped or the character reveals to the audience they have been raped, character stays silent for a long time before telling anyone, the character they do eventually tell is usually sworn to secrecy and will spend significant time telling the character to tell the police and/or loved ones about what has been done to them. Loved ones find out and the whole story breaks out with either full support, desire for revenge or family struggles to cope with the trauma but come out the other end. This was done with Stacey Slater, Ronnie Mitchell, Linda Carter etc. My POINT is I don’t think there should only be this formula for this storyline every time.
Paul is dead and I am not saying Ben should "get over" Paul death but he clearly needs counseling for that. As for Callum he is a good decent guy who Ben treats like shit. Callum needs a new love interest they need to be broken up for good or at least a while. Callum can't just be a plot device for Ben. Callum needs some happiness and joy. The hypocrisy of Ben is how jealous he is of Callum. Why can't the Eastenders writers give Callum a proper decent gay man? This is different the anger Callum has had enough of Ben bullshit.
Tony clay deserves all the awards
I’m sorry but “gay avenger” 😂
I know, I laughed too, Tony's delivery was amazing 🤣
That really took me out 😂😂😂
In such an emotional scene
That was funny
Tony used to do standup apparently. He’s phenomenal at conveying Callum’s raw emotional strength and pain, but comedy is kind of ingrained in his manners and I love him for it. When Callum first appeared he was this awkward, wide-eyed goofball who did slapstick and physical comedy with exquisite timing, bouncing of Linda and Mick with one liners and deer-in-headlights-looks. He’s a treasure and a damn good actor.
IKR. Can't wait for the Marvel series to come out!
...I was looking for this comment🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ripped my heart out! Max & Tony were incredible 💔💔
We've seen Callum upset, no doubt. Hurt. Dissapointed. But never this angry. Even in the "what about me" arguement when he saw Ben upset and crying he went to him. He held and comforted him. This time it's different. He's put a wall up and it's heartbreaking because he doesn't know the whole truth. 💔
Exactly! It took a lot for Callum to say that
Bravo Tony Clay!
Sensational acting from Max Bowden and Tony Clay. 👏🏻
Such a beautiful yet heartbreaking scene between these two brilliant actors! 💐💐💔🥺😭👏👏👏
The way Lewis talks and acts, I believe that Ben isn't his first. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Lewis has multiple men out there that he's assaulted. And that's found out that he's moved around a lot because of that fact. Perhaps Lewis isn't even his real name and went they start to look into him they find that out?
Outstanding performance from both actors
"You planned this"... "You had intent"... Yes, Callum!!! Call him out!!!
I don't think he plan to get raped no one does. He thought his married was over but then came to senses when saw the picture. He shouldn't of done the first bit that was wrong but he didn't deserve to get raped and did plan it.
@@juliewinfield5986 No one is saying Ben "planned" to get assaulted... we're going by what Callum knows in this context... which means that Callum is right when he said that Ben "planned" to download the app and then find Lewis on it to hookup with him... which constitute Ben cheating on Callum... regardless of him getting assaulted or not.
@@ajraven5145 no he didn’t plan to see Lewis . He was angry but he was drunk and never wanted sex with him he was drunk and didn’t know wat he was saying
@@ajraven5145 okay. But he didn't cheat on him as he change him mind . Yeah he kissed him and he shouldn't of done that but callum forgive him for that. But now he think he's cheating by sleeping with him when he didn't. Hopefully when he finds out the truth he be there for him.
@@juliewinfield5986: Not everyone’s okay with their HUSBAND kissing other men, it’s still cheating. Lmao especially since Callum made an issue about it before with the same guy. Then you go right back to him and do it again? Lmao no, Callum needs to just wash his hands of Ben.
I can feel Callum's pain.
Wow wow wow poor Callum🥺 And Ben can’t do nothing but just stand their and take the truth. That he was the one who initiated the contact with Lewis. Callum has every right to feel hurt.
He was raped?
@@justalex3525 not denying that he was taken advantage of BUT he has to be in honest in the role that he played and what led up to that. Lewis didn’t drug him or kidnap him, Ben went to Lewis seeking to have sex because he was pissed off with Callum saying to then just go with Lewis then. Not excusing what Lewis did but Ben isn’t completely innocent either
@@arbsan8366 that’s why Bens not saying anything. He knows he nearly cheated on Callum.
@@arbsan8366 Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, he shouldn’t have messaged Lewis, he should have spoken to Callum about how he felt.
I didn’t think Callum was showing that much emotional but now watching this back I think he was holding back on emotionals
Their both brilliant actors
Amazing acting. I really feel for Callum here :(
"The Big Gay Avenger" 😂😂😂😂😂
It's hard to watch, sooooo sad and painful and hurtful, awwwww my heart broke to pieces for them.😭💔😭💔😭💔
If the 2 of them can get through this, then after, their marriage will be stronger more than ever, and Ben might finally change for the better, their relationship will be healthier and a lot less toxic, their communication must improve a whole lot in the mean time, I’m glad to see that Ben said we need to and we can get through this together, that’s the little hope still remain inside his heart now, unfortunately right now Callum is still in the emotional pain of just finding out about the cheating part, he didn’t know the assault part yet, let’s wait till Callum knows the truth, then let’s see how he will react, would he come to Ben and help him through this together? We shall see, until then, right now it’s too early to tell anything just yet because everything is still in the dark!
I have no doubt he would be there for him if he knew
@@theresabruebaker1030 the 2 of them are far from over, guaranteed! There’s still pretty much deep love and strong feelings between them, and you don’t just get over this kind of feelings easily and quickly, it’s not like for people who dated couple times or just a fling, a little crush, even if Callum right now he doesn’t know the truth, he’s in pain and he might want a distraction, he would not get over Ben and fall for another person, it’s impossible, it would take a long time that’s if the truth doesn’t come out hypothetically, it would still take months or even years for him to get over Ben; not to mention that the truth will definitely come out, and Callum will be there for Ben no matter what, we already saw his anger towards Lewis today; imagine when he found out the truth about Ben’s assault, he would go out for blood this time, even though he knows he’s a cop and he shouldn’t do that, but the deep feelings he has for Ben probably will win over the logical reasoning, because who can blame him, emotions would definitely take over, but more importantly, he will be a safe harbor that Ben can rest and rely on, making Ben feel safe because right now Ben doesn’t feel safe and doesn’t feel like he has anyone let’s be honest; to get through trauma like sexual assault, an important step is to feel safe and be able to trust people again, and that would not be possible without around the people that Ben loves and can rely on… so I do hope the writers would send out a positive message out of this whole thing, that couples do come out this successfully and piece back together, instead of just bringing more darkness and suffering; I mean soap does want to educate people but it’s also important to bring out some light out of the negative stuff and it gives people hope especially for those who are currently in crisis, it gives them courage and hope, and that’s really crucial, so I hope the writers realize that and can go towards the positive way, instead of destroy ballum even more by bringing whatever more drama after this now that Callum wants a divorce, please no more drama after this, let’s focus on how to get Ben to open up, and let the family all support him and help him!💗💗💖💖😊🤗🤗🤗😇😇😇😇😇😇
@@chenzhou7288 Sadly, Ben goes and does it again this week (w/c 18/7/22) with "James" an old school friend (I always thought Ben was lonely, sad and isolated at school?)
Good analysis.
Now Ben worries about Cal's career? That's rich.... he is a corrupt cop thanks to him.... hahahaha.
Exactly
😂😂
Ok I watched this scene like more than 10 times over and I noticed that Ben defended Lewis (be angry at me but don't be angry with Lewis) that's why I realised that Cal notice that too and called it quits.
I go back this video just for the 'big gay avenger'
"Young, free and single." Callum is right, the fact that Ben kissed Lewis was way worse, because he's a married man! And he shouldn't have ever went on that app, he wasn't drunk when he was swapping away. Also, Ben should've picked anyone but Lewis, because it seems like their first kiss wasn't just because he was drunk.
Yes, but he was raped?
Correct! As Callum said during the confrontation with Ben, he did this with intent. He planned to cheat -- just a couple of days after saying to Callum “I’d never cheat on you.”
@@nesa2000 Outside of the kiss which shouldn't have happened (it really shouldn't), Ben thought his relationship was over when he went for Lewis on the app, Ben's emotional state is way too often overreacting for sure, but he really did think it was over untill he saw that text from Callum and Lexi.
Also, he showed Callum he had deleted the app … and clearly he hadn’t. Also, after the rape he started seeking our random, anonymous sex. I don’t know the dynamics of what happens to the victim, post-rape, but random sex seems unlikely.
The big gay avenger
Be the gay avenger that was a sarcastic defense mechanism reponse
Never forgive a cheater.
They can’t be trusted.
This part! 👏
Bare in mind callum cheated on Whitney with Ben ik its a diff situation but he also cheated
Callum is also a cheater.
Also Ben was raped. He didn't actually cheat.
@@artyevie2906 right!
Callum Deserve Someone Better Than Ben 💔😞
Noooooo nooo ballum hope they can make up 😢😢
I know it's sad and everything... but that joke.. Big gay avenger 😂😂😂
Painful to watch. Callum finally not being a doormat. So yay for that! However, this is a soap opera and Brit soap operas have a regular habit of always showing tragic gay characters. EE has been pretty good with the detail of this storyline, but I must admit, had this been solely an instance of cheating, many gay male couples work through infidelity (usually in the first few years of their relationships) and if they "get through this" as Ben said, then they last a long time together. Since the '70s and '80s gay men have learned that trying to purely adopt heteronormative ways of coupling more often than not doesn't work in practice. Add in the rape and you have to wonder, yes, Callum will likely be very upset and may even get violent towards Lewis, but will he also be able to get over Ben's original intent (i.e. the app and all). The characters are in their late 20s early 30s, so I'm not sure if gay men in these age groups are self-aware enough to understand that monogamy is nice in theory, but it isn't always true in practice. EE would be foolish to not bring Callum and Ben back together. Surely this show can finally have Ben grow up and write creative storylines for Ben and Callum without it always having to be dark and tragic. I'm not asking EE to rise to the excellence of Schitt's Creek, but this storyline so far has shown they have the sophistication to be even better, and they have excellent actors in Tony Clay and Max Bowden to bring it to life.
Well said!! Totally agreed! I don’t need to say anything else in the comment section, so yay for me!! And thank you!!😅😅😂😂😂😂🤗👏👏👏🤗🤗
Why is being monogamous unpractical in the lqbtq community? I don’t understand it.. why is it so hard to only be involved with one person? Like, you can always find people attractive but why does it mean you have to sleep with them? Like why? I’ve never understood that.. maybe it’s something deeper issue that’s rooted but tbh it’s not cute at all. It’s actually disturbing..
@@MJC8638 i understand what you mean, but the topic of whether to be monogamous or not should've been discussed much earlier in Ben and Callum's relationship, when they were first starting to get really serious about each other. Clearly, for people like Ben's character, monogamy is a struggle, even though they may deeply love their partner. This situation and others in Ben's past clearly show that monogamy isn't right for everyone, and that's just as valid as people who prefer a monogamous relationship.
@@MJC8638 Gay men are still men. Ben and Callum are young gay men in their 20s and early 30s. Very unrealistic for two young gay men to be totally monogamous. In the straight world women have the say whether a man gets sex or not. In the gay male community since it is males getting sex is easier. This is the reason In the western world bathhouses are very popular. Gay men understand the difference between love and sex. The monogamy ideal is a heteronormative one. I doubt show will go there but if Ben and Callum to work needs to be agreement about an open marriage. Ben did cheat he is young gay male to expect monogamy in a 20 something gay man even in marriage is unrealistic.
@@demianduran5610 Paul's death really affected Ben.
Only love can make a golden wedding ring.
Poor Ben, I cried for Ben 💔
AMAZING. Thank you Callum for saying all of that. While I hope Callum is there for Ben as a friend, I really hope this is the end for them because they are just not compatible together.
Tbh they are they just need a break to heal themselves
I don't want Ben and Callum broke up on the show!! 😢💔 #Ballum
so heartbreaking... I don't know how this can be fixed :(
I feel like even if he knew the truth about what happened with ben, ben did initially want to have sex with lewis and the intent and the actions that followed is already cheating. As much as i love ben and callum together, callums hurt is still valid
See that's the thing Ben did intend to cheat...
RAPE IS RAPE !
No
He was raped.
@@jameliakingstom1190 yes. He downloaded an app. Messaged a guy. Flirted with the guy. Snogged and made out with guy. He said no in thr end but before that he was cheating on his husband
Ben destroyed callum.. sad!!!
I’m so sacred I really want them together
Oh come on please tell him please 😭😭😭😭
Ben in these scenes I have given up on Ballum but Ben oh my heart
I think Ben also made it worse by talking about Lewis so much "he's not going to say anything, you don't have to worry about him", it really felt like he was throwing him in his face, showing him he knows Lewis really welll and that they're closer than they really are ...
Absolutely right Ms. Wilson. Since the day of the proposed 3some that Callum didn't realize what the dude was saying. We know the couple lives each other, But, Ben lives the ghost of his past more. Paul namely. Everything comes back to that. We need to see Callum with someone else, He can come back to Ben latter, I feel sorry for Ben's daughter, But, she's use to this with her mother, grandmother and grandfather. She says love never last. I want to see Callum happy with someone even a woman where Ben will really feels he's gone.
Calum Ben has got rapped
You speak the truth, My husband and I have been together 26yrs this year he's nearly 20yrs older than me, Older gay men like older straight pluck us off the vine so we fulfill thier fantasy, While still being green we fall for it. While they are ready to settle they want you to do what they couldn't in their 20s settle. So of course your still searching for what who knows, But, if you want to keep him/her let them. You didn't invent lies and sneaking around. He lived his life I lived mine. Then when all the running around was over he remained. Now another dude in the streets or anywhere is just someone who will talk too much while the game is on. We are settled. And, he and I are home to the other.
I don't want them to break up this episode was so sad
I hope this doesnt stay a secret for ages pleeease.
Wasn't Callum floating the idea of an open relationship a few months ago?
no he specifically said no when someone propositioned him and ben re it
Yes he did. He’s a hypocrite.
One day callum come back with Ben ❤️💓 I like you so much
🤯🤯🤯
I really don’t hope this story line drags…..
Que diabo de homem é Ben? Porquê ele não consegue falar a real para Callum? Pois a verdade é libertadora. Callum com certeza absoluta vai poder ajudar Ben.
That's serious when he goes back his wedding rings maybe they should break up give him a chance to take a break from each other maybe they will get back together or not at least they tried marriage and it didn't work out for them
So Callum cry over this but knowing his marriage is over he doesn’t seem bother he party with wit now with all Calum and ben family saying they something wrong with Ben really Callum you might be over but Aleast be friend Ben come on tell Callum he won’t reget punching him you need him
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I really don’t want to see another rape storyline dragged out, I know the point is they are supposed to be uncomfortable and reflect how difficult it is to come forward incase they are not believed but that narrative has been done to death not only on Eastenders but other soaps. I just hope it isn’t weeks before Ben tells someone
This hasn’t been done not a rape by a man and especially not shown in the gay community
@@rosiegiesler4705 I seem to recall Coronation Street had a huge storyline with David Platt being raped?
Im not saying this shouldn’t be a storyline btw, Im just saying I hope Ben coming forward about it doesn’t get drawn out the same as most others storylines of this nature do in Eastenders.
@@StormStar626 different show. I don’t really know what your point is? The writers are going to be different their not going to go onto coronation to see what’s been done before because they couldn’t give a shit as long as to not been done on Eastenders. I don’t watch coronation street or Hollyoaks or any other soap opera. And tbh I only watch EE because I’ve been in the show before when I was younger so feel a strong connection to it and the characters. If you watch loads of soap operas and the storylines become extremely similar that’s your problem not theirs because their writers for their shows not every single viewer who watches multiple shows.
@@rosiegiesler4705 well if you read my original comment my point was “Eastenders AND other soaps” I don’t watch many other soaps either but the David Platt storyline was MASSIVE and one of the most talked about so you best be sure the writers of Eastenders will be giving a shit to what other soaps are doing because they will not want to be seen as copying storylines. WHICH im not saying this is doing that at all, but I am addressing the point you made about soap writers not caring about storylines from other soaps (trust me they do, they more or less have to).
Clearly you think im just saying this is a bad storyline and I don’t want to see it. Which was NOT what I said let me make my meaning clearer; Rape storylines are not a new thing in television let alone soaps whether its male on female, female on male, male on male, female on female. If anything I would say when it comes to this type of storyline I am all for bringing more attention towards the latter 3 of those.
However in Eastenders in particular there is a particular formula they seem to go with and with such a sensitive topic I don’t thing they should be recycling the same formula over and over and this is the formula they go with;
The audience either sees the character raped or the character reveals to the audience they have been raped, character stays silent for a long time before telling anyone, the character they do eventually tell is usually sworn to secrecy and will spend significant time telling the character to tell the police and/or loved ones about what has been done to them. Loved ones find out and the whole story breaks out with either full support, desire for revenge or family struggles to cope with the trauma but come out the other end.
This was done with Stacey Slater, Ronnie Mitchell, Linda Carter etc.
My POINT is I don’t think there should only be this formula for this storyline every time.
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Fair to say the “marriage” is over
Callum will have major guilt over this scene very soon
Paul is dead and I am not saying Ben should "get over" Paul death but he clearly needs counseling for that. As for Callum he is a good decent guy who Ben treats like shit. Callum needs a new love interest they need to be broken up for good or at least a while. Callum can't just be a plot device for Ben. Callum needs some happiness and joy. The hypocrisy of Ben is how jealous he is of Callum. Why can't the Eastenders writers give Callum a proper decent gay man? This is different the anger Callum has had enough of Ben bullshit.