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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2023
- For Film Friday #69, Madison watches The Magnificent Seven for the first time.
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“He brought a knife to a gun fight……..and won”
Killer line Madison.
The project was Yul Brynner's idea. When he approached director John Sturges, who was an admirer of Kurisawa, to direct he refused to do a remake of SEVEN SAMURI without Akira Kurisawa's approval whereupon Kurisawa contacted Sturges and told him he was a big fan of Sturges's movies and gave his blessing.
It was one those "who gets there first" projects. Anthony Quinn was also eying the lead and had his own production ready to go. But I can't recall if there were some legal issues that did that he couldn't get it off the ground.
Kurosawa !!!
@@Kasino80 I didn't know that. Quinn honestly would be pretty bad ass in the lead role as well.
This version is better than the remake by a mile. I think you will agree.
@@nealrepetti2396 Didn't see the remake but I'm sure you're right.
One of the very best movies! That cast is chuck full of Hollywood royalty. Brenner, McQueen, Bronson, Coburn, Wallach and Vaughn are legends.
Brynner.
Don't forget about his (Hollywood) debut by Horst Buchholz (a German actor)! Elmer Bernstein's music is so great! 😍
I think the remake of 2016 doesn't even come close. However without Kurosawa's "Seven Samurai" this remake wouldn't be possible! 😇
@@MusikPiratCH the 2016 is very different. It's still good in parts. Ethan Hawke steals every scene, but the villain is very weak. In generel I find Peter Sarsgaard very hit or miss.
Charles Bronson, Steve McQueen, and James Coburn were together again a few years later in the classic "The Great Escape" (1963), which is based on real events in WW2.
My buddies and I spent an entire Saturday afternoon watching this movie when it came out in 1960. We stayed for three showings. One of my all-time favorite westerns with the most iconic western soundtrack ever created. Nice reaction, Madison! ❤
“The graveyards are full of boys who were very young, and very proud…”
I have combat related PTSD, so Lee's story resonates with me more than it does for most people.
Eli Wallach's performance as Calvera is one of my favorite movie Western bad guys - great lines, great delivery - just on the right side of being over the top. Every scene he's in is great.
Wallach had never rode a horse before this movie .He was known as a Broadway and off Broadway actor
@@pauldourlet He learned to ride while attending college in Texas many years before this film. He also went out for rides in the morning with the other bandits
Lee (Robert Vaughn) is not a literal deserter: he's making an analogy between his condition as a man who's lost his nerve and deserter on a battle field. When I first watched this movie, he was the character I felt the most sympathy for.
Lee is the one who unleashes the villagers and enables the actual rebellion. I always felt that he knew this and knew this was going to be the last thing he did. You can see it in his body language: he has done something liberating and is "ready".
“Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas.” ― Emiliano Zapata. "It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
In the first take of the scene when the Seven were riding across the stream, Steve McQueen leaned down from his saddle and scooped water out of the stream with his hat, and Charles Bronson stretched his shoulders, flexing his arms and twisting his waist. They were trying to stand out from the others and steal the scene. Director John Sturges, seeing the actors' attempts to upstage each other, turned to the persn next to him (I think it as his director photography) and said "This is going to be a long shoot."
This is one of Hollywood’s favorite plots. They return to this well over and over.
One of my favorites is Three Amigos, which is a parody of this.
Then Pixar’s A Bug’s Life is basically The Magnificent Seven, but with the twist of Three Amigos in that the heroes are performers thinking it’s a gig.
magnificent seven is a remake of seven samurai
@@Skip-Kilat you don’t say!
Robert Vaughn winning the William Shatner Award for acting.
Eli Wallach said he wished he could holster his gun smoothly without looking like the actors who played the Seven could, but he always had to look to get it into the holster. Some people just have a better 3 dimensuonal sense of their body position, but I thought that it accidentally helped define the character. It gives the impression that the Seven are skilled professional warriors while Calvera is a just a brutal professional bully.
He decided to use a lanyard in The Good, The Bad And The Ugly as felt he couldn’t properly use a holster and felt he needed to look but as Tuco he made his character stand out like his character Calvara in The Magnificent Seven and made the characters both iconic.
The "Man from Uncle" an underrated actor.
Since you're into Westerns, "Appaloosa" w/Viggo Mortensen & Ed Harris. A very underrated, but really good Western IMHO.
It is a very good modern western. Never see it on reaction channels either.
Yes, one of my favorite modern Westerns
Yes agreed underrated but I think they could have gotten someone other than "squints" zellweger.
My first encounter with the basic story line was "Battle Beyond the Stars (1980)"! Its just silly how often Seven Samurai has been remade at this point, Magnificent is stellar. Yes Seven Samurai is a long film but it sure doesn't feel that way when you're watching it. Would love to see a reaction for that one, maybe make it a two parter?
A great western, and possibly the best music score of any western.
Three of the actors in this movie are in another movie made a few years later. Bronson, Coburn and McQueen all are in The Great Escape. Definitely worth watching.
The Good The Bad and The Ugly has the best wetern soundtrack, but The Magnificant Seven is very, very good also.
The Seven Samurai is a classic. I first saw it in high school, well over 30 years ago now. After seeing The Magnificent Seven, Akira Kurosawa got in touch with John Sturges and said he thoroughly enjoyed the film. He went on to say that everything he took three hours to say with The Seven Samurai John Sturges said in half the time with The Magnificent Seven. If you want to see another great Steve McQueen film, watch The Great Escape. He also played a battalion chief in the San Francisco Fire Department in my all-time favorite disaster movie, 1974's The Towering Inferno. There is another movie from the 80's called World Gone Wild, a post-apocalyptic action movie that can be described as The Magnificent Seven meets Mad Max. Kind of an interesting movie.
@32:45 If you watch closely you can see that Bronson actually broke the bed when he sits down to smack the child, the child to Bronson's left even breaks into a quick smile just before he dips his head.
Brons's speech about fatherhood should be broadcast nationwide every father's day.
I liked it when Harry is dying, and Chris lies to him so he can die thinking it was worth it to try to win the biggest payoff in his life. It let Harry go out on terms he could accept.
This is my favourite Western. The characters are much more deep than in the remake, or even many other Westerns. When you watch this movie several times you will notice more and more small details of how good this movie is. It is not just about the action and how brave these men are while fighting the bad guys but also how human and vulnerable their characters are. For example, the scene where Bernardo is hitting the kid and tells the three boys how brave their fathers are in caring and working their whole live for them under miserable circumstances and that he himself doesn't have 'the courage' to even start a familie of his own shows how humble a character he is. By pointings out to them that carrying a gun does not make you a hero or a great man further shows his self-effacing personality. Throughout the movie there were many such beautiful and fascinating moments which more fully underscore the main characters. Great acting, great story and great cinematography. It does much honor to the original Japanese movie "The Seven Samurai" (1954) where it was based on. Btw, "Shane" (1953) with Jack Palance and Alan Ladd is an other great Western movie you surley will enjoy.
When Eli Wallach's grandson saw Calvera get shot, he asked Wallach "Grandpa, couldn't you outdraw Yul Brynner?"
The story is that Yule Brenner (Chris) was intended to be the main star, but Steve McQueen kept trying to upstage him, and it became somewhat difficult between them on set.
Thing is, for me, McQueen just never did it for me. Brynner was, for me, the center and the anchor for the team and the movie.
El Pendejo Grande, that gringo McQueen
In the movie The Towering Inferno, McQueen played a fire chief trying to put out a fire in a high-rise and he almost quit because he felt the role wasn't very heroic, lol. It took some of the cast an entire afternoon to convince him otherwise.
@@melenatorr Same. I guess you had to be a young person at the time to "get" why McQueen was considered so awe-inspiringly cool. I'm Gen X. I don't. The work of Paul Newman has aged much better in my book.
@@jsharp3165 Ooh. I am pretty much that generation.... I'm a boomer, will be 65 this year! But I never could get on board with McQueen for some reason. Now. Yul Brynner! That's another question!
A film historian pointed out that Vin's chaps and bandana implied that he had been a cowboy (that he had worked herding cattle before turning to gunfighting), that O'Reilly's denim outfit implied that he was a down to earth working class man, and that Lee was dressed like a riverboat gambler. I thought those were interesting visual character cues.
Horst Buchholz said that Yul Brynner wasn't that fast, so Buchholz had to telegraph to Brynner that he was about to clap by swinging his hands outward slightly before clapping them together.
I hope you have plans to react to the original "true grit" starring John Wayne, Kim Darby, Glen Campbell and Robert Duvall, oh,and Strother Martin is also in it,it's such a great movie!
Iconic movie theme that got a lot of use later in Marlboro cigarettes TV commercials. Shane is another classic western that's a must see for lovers of the genre.
James Coburn was a fan of "Seven Samurai," and his favorite character in that movie was the stoic master swordman Kyūzō, so he was overjoyed when he got the role of Britt who is the Magnificent Seven's version of Kyūzō.
Ahh, Whit Bissell!. In the 60s I had to get up early, like 5:30 AM, to get myself going and shovel coal into the furnace, etc. before getting ready to walk a mile to the school bus stop. A local radio show began at 5 AM and I usually listened to a bit of it. One day Bissell was in town and he was interviewed live that morning. He and the host DJ sang "Winchester Cathedral" for laughs. I don't know why it was a joke.
Lurry, Manager of Space Station K-7 from the Star Trek episode "The Trouble With Tribbles".
Whit Bissell was in hundreds of movies and TV shows. Also in that scene was Bing Russell (Kurt's Dad)
Having seen both, I have to say that I like this version better than the modern remake. Someday I’ll have to watch Kurasawa’s original.
You should, it's superb.
Kurosawa!!!
"Changing sheeps into a sheepdogs", that's a lesson for all of us in these days.
Anyway, good time to watch "Three Amigos" if you haven't yet. It's hilarious.
If you haven’t seen it … LITTLE BIG MAN … is a hidden gem in the western genre.
So excellent. It’s not on any streaking service other than to buy or rent I think.
"The beacons are lit. Gondor calls for aid!" LOL, you are precious Maddie. Thanks for another great reaction and review. As was posted earlier I would also recommend My Name Is Nobody.
15:10
"I love this music so much."
I remember watching this as a rerun on television ......1969/1970....I was 6 (ish) years old. ....we were staying at my Aunt and Uncle's and the adults all commented on the music..... just uplifting and hopeful .....powerful.
I was ten years old when this film came to the theaters back in 1960. It became an instant favorite of mine. Thank you so much for sharing, Madison
This score and the score for "The Big Country"(1958) are the quintennial western scores of the big star power westerns.
In the days before the internet it was a great trivia question to name the Magnificent 7. Most people could get 6, as they were all pretty well known movie stars except for Horst Buchholz but he was remembered because it was his Hollywood debut movie. The most unknown actor was Brad Dexter (Harry Luck) as he was mostly a support actor in his movies. I personally spent months trying to find out his name as there was no IMDb back then. It’s a great movie from my youth. Special mention to Eli Wallach, he plays a great baddie. ❤️🤘🎸🎻🇦🇺
You ought to watch "The Blob" (1958). Early Steve McQueen in a "California upper middle class teens rule the night" drive-in flick.
Strongly suggest you view the "The Seven Samurai" by Kurosawa, either for your own enjoyment or for a reaction. Steve McQueen in "The Great Escape" is also a great film. My favorite Kurosawa is "Yojimbo", which is another samurai film!Q!
agreed! if you already are that streak, you should watch "Seven Samurais" too - with us or without us. To watch black-and white filmed three-hour-long samurai movie is very fresheing experience. Excellent commentaries as always you really got the point of this.
"Yojimbo" was in part inspired by a hard boiled detective novel "Red Harvest" written by Dashiell Hammett, and then in turn it inspired the Clint Eastwood "A Fistful of Dollars." No one's ever done a straight movie adaption of "Red Harvest" because it's written in first person and has plot twists that would be tricky to make work on film, but it's inspired a lot of movies directly or indirectly.
@@missk8tie Love that you are aware of that 😊.Kinda completes the circle of inspiration...😊
YES!!!
One of my favorite Western movies!
This is actually a remake of Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai from 1954.
The plot of the movie was spoofed or made homage in other movies like The Three Amigos, A Bug's Life, and Galaxy Quest.
I highly recommend the 2017 remake with Denzal Washington, Chris Pratt, Ethan Hawke, and Vincent D'Onofrio.
I hadn't seen the movie in years but, as I got close to retirement, that line, "There was a time when I would have gotten all three," kept running through my mind.
One of the greatest classic American Western with one of the greatest casts ever with a great score.
Madison: have loved westerns my whole life. This movie was probably my third favorite, behind High Noon and Shane, for a long time. It’s more like number 10-15 now. Top of the list and highly recommended: The Wild Bunch!
A dark twist on this theme is the great Sam Peckinpah’s The Wild Bunch. In that film cowboy gunman oppose a greater form of tyrannical evil than their own individual corruption. There’s no hope of redeemed honor, just a way of spitting in the eye of blind fate. It’s a must watch!
"If God didn't want them to be sheared, he would not have made them sheep" sums up Calvera's world view as human predator. It reminds me of a real life convicter m**derer who, during his sentencing, said "You're either predator or prey, and I sure as hell ain't no prey."
"Brought a knife to a gunfight and won" 🙂
Rosenda Monteros as Petra and Jorge Martinez de Hoyos as Hilario played their parts so well.
The pretty Mexican girl, "Petra", Roseada Monteros, passed away in 2018 at the age of 88.
An absolute beauty.
I highly recommend "Hard Times" with Charles Bronson, Strother Martin (Cool Hand Luke) and James Coburn.
If he was from Chicago, there was a 10 story building in 1884, the Home Insurance Building. It was built by William LeBaron Jenney.
I love how everybody keeps saying this is a Seven Samurai remake...like it's not in the opening titles of the movie. 😂
I love both this and the remake. The 2016 version had the last James Horner score before he passed. My big negative with it was how it became a revenge story instead of a protector story at the end. Pratt did an amazing job of echoing McQueen and to this day I still pronounce "Ar-KAN-sas" because of Denzel. Lol
This “magnificent” theme by the great Elmer Bernstein was used as the theme for Marlboro cigarettes in commercials in the 1960s, back when they used to have cigarette commercials on TV.
This movie had Super-Star Actor Steve McQueen, Stars Yul Brenner, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn, and Eli Wallach. And a cast of great actors, to fill out the 7, and a great supporting cast.
Of course, the music score by Elmer Berstein was outstanding.
Something many miss is one of the villagers who go to recruit the seven is Jorge Martínez de Hoyos. He played Po Campo in "Lonesome Dove" ...
Po is the Mexican cook who joins the cattle drive North, walking or riding in his wagon ..
"Only the farmers won. We lost." Thanks for watching one of my favorite westerns.
I find it hard to believe that Madison hasn't seen The Magnificent Seven until now.
The meaning of the title is expained in the opening monolog, the conversation with the El Paso sheriff and the conversation with his uncle at the end.
As well as the conversation with his wife.
The theme for this is always in everyone's top 5 movie scores. It was written by Elmer Bernstein, one of the best soundtrack composers ever. Another great soundtrack of his is The Man with the Golden Arm.
So many famous actors in this, though not all famous at the time; like The Great Escape, which has McQueen, Bronson, Coburn again as well as many others
Eli Wallach, in1966, played Tuco, in the GOOD, BAD, & THE UGLY, WITH CLINT EASTWOOD. STEVE McQueen, played with Paul Newman in the TOWERING INFERNO, Charles Bronson did DEATH WISH FILMS. YUL BRENNAR PLAYED RAMASSEES, IN the religious film by CECIL B. DAMILE, CALLED THE 10 COMMANDMENTS, Along side of Charlton Heston, Edward G Robison, Vincent Price, ectra!!!
Thank you for this reaction Madison Thames! I'm shocked that you left out Chris' line "I've been offered a lot before, but never everything". It's one of the best lines in movie-dom, and even though the offer was likely the smallest offer he'd ever gotten for his services, he meant it literally, not sarcastically.
The comedy version of this is one of the funniest movies of all time, The Three Amigos!
There have been more than a few Samurai movies that have been adapted and remade as Westerns. Seven Samurai by Akira Kurosawa inspired The Magnificent Seven (1960) and (2016) and Battle Beyond the Stars (1980) as well as A Bug’s Life (1998) from Pixar and 13 Assassins (2010), The Seven Magnificent Gladiators (1983). Yojimbo, also by Akira Kurosawa was the inspiration for A Fistful Of Dollars (1964) staring Clint Eastwood as well as Last Man Standing (1996) with Bruce Willis, The Warrior and the Sorceress (1984) with David Carradine.
Akira Kurosawa's body of work is incredible and are masterworks of film, both Steven Spielberg and George Lucas list him as a major influence. Ran (1985) which is a Samurai telling of King Lear is as perfect a film as I have ever seen.
Calvera explained why he lets them go: he doesn't want friends of the Seven coming down for revenge. That's the same reason he keeps his word and gives them back their guns: he's being practical, and figures he's beaten them. He doesn't figure on anything happening after that.
Bernstein's score is iconic.
Hi Madison. There is a movie you need to watch. Several of the cast members from this movie are in it. The Great Escape! A truly great movie. Enjoy!!
In fact, The Great Escape was released the next year and the director was the same, John Sturges. Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, and James Coburn are the only actors I recall in both.
Iconic soundtrack by the great Elmer Bernstein. Little known trivia: A young John(ny) Williams played piano on this score.
In the final battle when Lee kicks in the door he gets all three of the banditos inside.
Great reaction to one of my favorite movies. I love your comments and passion. What a cast of Hollywood legends and a memorable soundtrack....
The famous theme was used for Marlboro cigarettes.
The Elmer Bernstein music score is superb! The Magnificent Seven(1960) is a remake of Akira Kurosawa's 1954 film Seven Samurai. The producers bought the remake rights for $250. The Magnificent Seven Ride(1972) tried to emulate the Sergio Corbucci anti-Westerns of the time.
Hi Madison unfortunately I am a tactical defense instructor and it's the only position that apparently I am well suited to 😔😪but your reaction to this movie gives me hope and acceptance. Madison quote: Gunmen are the sheepdog great metaphor for warriors or protectors THANK U SUPER REACTION❤
Great movie. You watch My Name Is Nobody 1973
(A movie Sergio Leoni wrote but not directed) a very funny spaghetti western I highly recommend you see it.
Also Young Guns two movie westerns and The Quick and the dead 1995 western. Also there is Nevada Smith with Steve Mcqueen and Red River with John Wayne. Also a great movie with Steve Mcqueen Charles Bronson and James Cobran (All in this movie) is The Great Escape.
they had a fun TV show in the 90s called magnificent 7. it's worth a look of you are feeling adventurous
Once Upon A Time In The West. (1969) Henry Fonda, Claudia Cardinale, Charles Bronson, Jason Roberts.
McQueen Playlist:
Great Escape (made him a STAR)
Bullitt (!!)
Papillion (Elevated him to World Class Dramatic Actor status & showed his range!)
Thomas Crown Affair (Sophisticated Romantic Lead)
The Getaway (Iconic/Met wife to be Ali McGraw)
Sand Pebbles (Oscar nom)
Tom Horn (Late career, one of best authentic Westerns ever ala' Unforgiven!)
My avatar is from The Seven Samurai- it’s their swords after the final battle. Most died, the rest gave up killing after helping the villagers.
Perhaps the greatest film score of all time.
At last, someone who recognized the cool shot of Calvera riding out of the village. I thought i was the only one who appreciated that shot. ... Oh, and where's your cowboy hat? 😉
The Magnificent Seven is my favorite western of all time. And my other favorite is "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly". They stand in sharp contrast, because the Magnificent Seven is full of light...........The Good, The Bad, and They Ugly is full of darkness. The earlier movie is the greatest example of the optimism shown in the early years of cowboy films, where good triumphs over evil and virtue is rewarded (though at a cost!). Yul Brynner portrays a leader of the most powerful charisma, exactly the man you want around in the most desperate times, and Steve McQueen (constantly trying to upstage Brynner in the movie by playing with his hat, etc) is excellent as Brynner's right hand man. James Coburn is also tremendously impressive in his role, and Charles Bronson does far and away the best acting of his career in this movie, in my opinion. And Horst Buchholz did a great job as "the kid". They were all very memorable characters except, perhaps, the guy who was in it just to get a bunch of gold or gems...he did not register very strongly with me. On top of that, Eli Wallach as "Calvera" was unforgettable! He should have won the Oscar for that role.
Anyway, The Magnificent Seven kind of closed out the idealistic and perhaps naive era of the grand optimistic westerns....because what was coming in the mid to late 60's was a far more cynical and dark view of the West (and of life in general), encapsulated in the equally unforgettable Spaghetti Westerns that Clint Eastwood starred in. Gone was the pure good vs evil dichotomy of the past. It had become instead the age of the Antihero. The characters were now highly conflicted individuals with a lot of darkness in them. It was seen as more "realistic" that way. So, in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly you had 3 main characters (and many minor ones), all of whom were driven by greed and mere "survival" instinct, all out basically just for their own gain...and you had to decide which was the worst of them in order to decide whose side you were on. The Lee Van Cleef character was definitely the worse in that case....and Tuco (played again brilliantly by Eli Wallach) was a little more tolerable...he was more like a wild animal...while "Blondie" showed occasional moments of having *some* redeeming qualities here and there. It made for a pretty interesting story!
That was the transition from the 40's and 50's........into the 60's, and what followed right to the present day. It mirrors a society that has gradually lost faith in itself, in its traditions, and in pretty much everything else. And the final closing of that darkening cycle came in Clint Eastwood's classic "Unforgiven", where nothing was left of the western mythos of "good guys" and "bad guys". Watch out for societies at the end of their heroic cycle, on the descending curve of the sine wave, when all their naive and youthful ideals have fallen, and only money, raw power, and survival matter any longer. They end the way Rome did. Not well.
The Magnificent Seven leaves one with a joyful feeling. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly leaves one feeling very well entertained, but there's nothing to be joyful about. Unforgiven leaves one feeling grim.............though again....well entertained. They are all great movies. And each one reflects the mood of the times in which it was made.
Loved this classic movie Madison , thanks for a fantastic video
And THE GREAT ESCAPE was the next movie from John Sturgess and features many of the same actors from this. Fantastic movie, fantastic subject for a reaction-- classic.
I love this movie and your reaction to it. One of the things that Seven Samurai gets a little better is that in that movie, the villagers are not really worth saving. They are weak, venal, and selfish but the Samurai have agreed to protect them, so they do. Makes the Samurai just a bit more noble than these cowboys protecting people who deserved protection.
I can't watch your reaction at the moment,but I do want to thank you for reacting to this movie. As someone born in 1961 this was one of my first favorite westerns,and ensemble flicks.
Promise to watch very soon and already gave a thumbs up!
Brynner and McQueen two very cool dudes.
Not for nothing, but the first 10 story building in the entire world was built in 1868 in New York City. By the time this film takes place, in 1890, there were skyscrapers in not just New York but Chicago, Detroit, Saint Louis, Dallas, and Los Angeles.
The algorithm let me down. This had been up for HOURS before I saw it and MAN THIS is a "Madison Movie."
One of the greatest soundtracks of a movie,..ever!
Classic Western with a classic theme song. Nice reaction.
The first modern skyscraper was created in 1885-the 10-story Home Insurance Building in Chicago.
The Magnificent Seven is my favorite western movie. But my favorite Western is Lonesome Dove. Robert Duvall as Augustus McCrae and Tommy Lee Jones as Captain Call.
The young cowboy is Horst Buchholz from my home country germany. Also he passed away meanwhile - 2003.
Love this movie. From an old Japanese samurai story. James coburns first big role and barely said 10 words! Eli wallach also Tuco in The Good Bad and the Ugly! To me, the most interesting character in any Western is the once fastest shooter of all, reduced to a homeless sociopath who's now afraid of everything.
The Iron Horse (early John Ford)
Cimarron (early Oscar winner; Edna Ferber material)
The Wild Bunch
High Noon
Shane
The Searchers
Ride The High Country
and
Stagecoach
Great reaction Maddison!! 👍 Really love this movie. A few other westerns you should check out are “The Quick and the Dead” (1995), “The Searchers” (1956), “Shane” (1953), “Tombstone” (1993), “Pale Rider” (1985) “The Wild Bunch” (1969) and “Unforgiven” (1992) just to name a few. 😀
I agree with you about sequels. Rarely does the remake match the original. The exception...at least in my opinion is True Grit. I liked both equally. The first was a John Wayne vehicle, his "Rooster" character made the movie. The 2nd was more true to the book but both were good in their own way.
Tom
El Mirage Land and Cattle Company
El Mirage, Arizona
I agree with this but you will make a lot of John Wayne fans mad. But I thought it was better.
Spit-take at your "The beacons are lit! Gondor calls for aid!"