Okay well from experience when you say tapped into a pole or wall to get larger leaf size, I believe the idea behind this is to have nutrients available to those aerial roots. And how you do that essentially is you have to have moss and soil combined within that pole . The soil combined with the moss keeps it from essentially drying out and of course nutrients are applied up top down in through the moss in order to keep it hydrated etc. You will want to feed those aerial roots essentially.
I have a Monstera deliciosa albo-variegata planted on soil (Jundiai, SP, Brazil). It is 20-30 years old and its leaves are 60 cm long. Like yours, it is climbing a wall, but a garden wall. This season it produced 9 fruits.
@@variegated_stingray In 40 seedlings, I've got 1 albine; 1 variegated; and I'm observing the others, now with 3 leaves, with the help of some friends to whom I've given them.
So I’m confused, are they growing larger leaves due to water / nutrients ie moss pole OR even if climbing up a regular wall ( as in wall can’t give nutrient’s ) so when you say “ tapped” into a wall, do you just mean up against a wall?
To grow larger leaves, the aerial roots need to root into a medium; such as drywall, moss, Aroid mix, bark, tree bark, etc… once they tap in, and grow against gravity, the leaves will get larger! Hope this helps 😄
They just need something solid to climb up. The plant itself knows ecactly if it's a good pole. Thats why a bamboo stick won't work, because it can't attach itself properly to it. And thats what the plant wants to get bigger: it wants to know that it can attach itself to something and feels secure. Because if the plant isn't secure, it'll risk snapping from the weight of larger leaves. Hope that makes sense. So no, it's not down to water/nutrients in the pole - but they certainly help too. I've seen plenty of people (and did it myself with multiple albos) grow albos from tiny cutting to huge plants (24-26¨ leaves) without moss, but a good enough pole where the roots can attach themselves well. It's much nicer with a good moss pole - because then you can always cut the head cutting off when it grew too tall and have it already be quite well rooted inside the moss.
Mate, this is NOT a large form albo. The "large form" is the same form the Thai Constellation is. This albo is a "small form", what people also often call a "borsigiana". The large form doesn't have secondary fenestration at such small size, has much rounder leaves, thicker leaves and a very strong geniculum (which the small form also gets, but only when very mature and it's a lot weaker too).
From what I've encountered- large form can get the perforations at smaller sizes. It's come down to lighting and size of the node it's growing off, in my experience at least.
It’s soo interesting! Thanks for sharing. I am just wondering what kind of nutrients the Monstera can get from a drywall? Instinctively, I would have thought it bad for them being construction materials. I assumed your drywall is not painted as there would be too much chemicals for them? Thanks
I kinda misspoke-especially when it comes to nutrition from the drywall. There’s not much in gypsum I don’t think 🤔 but from a tree they can tap into the exterior bark and actually drink and eat from the Phloem layer under the bark!
@@prettyingreen getting fenestrations early in an Albo just means the plant is getting the perfect treatment and conditions. The difference between large and small forms are very distinct. Large from would have a stem similar to a Thai constellation where the nodes are really close together. Also the leaf will ruffle at the end with the steam. Large for altos resemble all the traits of a Thai Constellation so it will be a crawler instead of a leggy climber.
I'm trying to avoid browning of my outdoor Monstera deliciosa albo-variegata. As I can't control totally air humidity, I've just made kind of a roof with a climber. Hope it works!
just chiming in here, secondary fenestrations do not make a large form monstera deliciosa. The ruffles on the petiole are the dead giveaway of the large form monstera deliciosa.
I'd like to know if this still applies to smaller monsteras that haven't fenestrated yet. Should I wait until it starts having fenestrated leaves and then I can put a moss pole ?
There’s some great options of Aroid mix poles. It’s essentially a plastic housing you fill in with aroid mix-those are the ones I’m gonna get! I don’t know the brand yet tho :/
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How can I buy it from you?
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How awesome! I’m switching my monsters from poles to wood planks, I hope I can have some of this success!❤
Thankyou for explaining….because of space I prefer the small leaf plant…now I know how to keep it small. Great video thanks again 💜
Okay well from experience when you say tapped into a pole or wall to get larger leaf size, I believe the idea behind this is to have nutrients available to those aerial roots. And how you do that essentially is you have to have moss and soil combined within that pole . The soil combined with the moss keeps it from essentially drying out and of course nutrients are applied up top down in through the moss in order to keep it hydrated etc. You will want to feed those aerial roots essentially.
Love that you have SO many examples to clearly show the differences!
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i think i love you plant lady ;)
I have a Monstera deliciosa albo-variegata planted on soil (Jundiai, SP, Brazil). It is 20-30 years old and its leaves are 60 cm long. Like yours, it is climbing a wall, but a garden wall. This season it produced 9 fruits.
Thanks SOOOO cool!!! i would love to see pictures of this plant! 9 Fruits in one season! Wow. Did you eat any?
@@prettyingreen No, I didn't, but I've got about 40 seeds and I'm observing the seedlings for variegation.
@@silviavasconcellos5654 The chance that you're getting variegated seedlings is (sadly) almost zero.
@@variegated_stingray In 40 seedlings, I've got 1 albine; 1 variegated; and I'm observing the others, now with 3 leaves, with the help of some friends to whom I've given them.
@@silviavasconcellos5654 Do you sell ?
Amazing thanks !!!
We just dropped a bunch new plants for spring! prettyingreen.com/collections/all-plants
So I’m confused, are they growing larger leaves due to water / nutrients ie moss pole OR even if climbing up a regular wall ( as in wall can’t give nutrient’s ) so when you say “ tapped” into a wall, do you just mean up against a wall?
To grow larger leaves, the aerial roots need to root into a medium; such as drywall, moss, Aroid mix, bark, tree bark, etc… once they tap in, and grow against gravity, the leaves will get larger! Hope this helps 😄
They just need something solid to climb up. The plant itself knows ecactly if it's a good pole. Thats why a bamboo stick won't work, because it can't attach itself properly to it. And thats what the plant wants to get bigger: it wants to know that it can attach itself to something and feels secure. Because if the plant isn't secure, it'll risk snapping from the weight of larger leaves. Hope that makes sense.
So no, it's not down to water/nutrients in the pole - but they certainly help too. I've seen plenty of people (and did it myself with multiple albos) grow albos from tiny cutting to huge plants (24-26¨ leaves) without moss, but a good enough pole where the roots can attach themselves well. It's much nicer with a good moss pole - because then you can always cut the head cutting off when it grew too tall and have it already be quite well rooted inside the moss.
Mate, this is NOT a large form albo. The "large form" is the same form the Thai Constellation is. This albo is a "small form", what people also often call a "borsigiana". The large form doesn't have secondary fenestration at such small size, has much rounder leaves, thicker leaves and a very strong geniculum (which the small form also gets, but only when very mature and it's a lot weaker too).
From what I've encountered- large form can get the perforations at smaller sizes. It's come down to lighting and size of the node it's growing off, in my experience at least.
Your videos are amazing!!! I love them can’t wait for mines to get that’s size
Thank you!! Lots of light and a good pole to climb 🤗
@@prettyingreen I gave them a pole about a week ago. So I’m hoping it attaches it self to the pole.
I love your videos! keep up the good work
Thank you so much! That’s so kind 🤗💚
It’s soo interesting! Thanks for sharing. I am just wondering what kind of nutrients the Monstera can get from a drywall? Instinctively, I would have thought it bad for them being construction materials. I assumed your drywall is not painted as there would be too much chemicals for them? Thanks
I kinda misspoke-especially when it comes to nutrition from the drywall. There’s not much in gypsum I don’t think 🤔 but from a tree they can tap into the exterior bark and actually drink and eat from the Phloem layer under the bark!
Early fenestration is NOT a sign of a large form Albo. From the video I'm pretty sure it's a small form Albo.
Really? Early inner fenestrations are NOT signs of a deliciosa form Albo!? Would you explain for us
@@prettyingreen getting fenestrations early in an Albo just means the plant is getting the perfect treatment and conditions. The difference between large and small forms are very distinct. Large from would have a stem similar to a Thai constellation where the nodes are really close together. Also the leaf will ruffle at the end with the steam. Large for altos resemble all the traits of a Thai Constellation so it will be a crawler instead of a leggy climber.
@@thecyclingphotographer441 In US the name "borsigiana" for the smaller form is accepted, or adopted?
100% agreed. It's actually a small form. No doubt about it.
yup that is spot on my friend !!!!!!!!!!!!!@@thecyclingphotographer441
Is it better to grow this indoor with grow light or grow it outdoor? I find my white albo leaves keep getting burn from the sunlight
When the roots look like monsters you know they are healthy ahahaaa
Definitely! Healthy roots, healthy plants!
I need an Albo that has very close inter-node space. Mine is beautiful but it’s leggy.
Did you put a run reel to those lights? For even light
I'm trying to avoid browning of my outdoor Monstera deliciosa albo-variegata. As I can't control totally air humidity, I've just made kind of a roof with a climber. Hope it works!
Nice! That’s a great idea 😄 Lots of light should keep the browning to a minimum!
just chiming in here, secondary fenestrations do not make a large form monstera deliciosa.
The ruffles on the petiole are the dead giveaway of the large form monstera deliciosa.
Correct. Inner fenestrations alone are not indicative of Large Form. But inner PLUS winged geniculum = Large form
@@prettyingreen Not really. Because the small form does get a winged geniculum too, when it's mature ;) But it's not as prominent as in large forms.
That albo is a small form monstera not a large form.
If I’m moving and I have a monstera growing on a wall what would I do?| Do I need to water the wall?
Wow! Great info. Do you spray water on the wall for the roots? Thanks for sharing.
I don’t actually! But it’s pretty humid in there
Do you spray down the wall or anything to supplement the roots growing on it? Or is your grow space pretty humid?
Nope no spraying-it’s just pretty humid! 😄 65-70%
Hi Chris, am learning so much about Monstera and its care. thank you for the video by the way, who won ?the giveaway I hope it’s me🎉👏🏼🍀
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I'd like to know if this still applies to smaller monsteras that haven't fenestrated yet. Should I wait until it starts having fenestrated leaves and then I can put a moss pole ?
I would put it on a moss pole as soon as you can!! Once it has aerial roots it’s ready 🙌 it’ll likely get fenestrations quicker this way
Are you feeding them in the smaller secondary Leca pots? Or do they just need a coconut/sphagnum pole to catch to?
Once every couple weeks I add water to the secondary pots. Ideally you keep what they’re growing into damp!
I saw you said your monsterra is 2-3 years old. Did you start them as cuttings of a more mature plant or as a seedling?
Started as a 3 leaf cutting from a more mature plant
What can I do if I rent and can’t have it growing up a wall?
I have a baby thai. Do you know at what point they start putting out aerial roots? It just sized up to a 4 inch pot.
With enough humidity they do very early. I have some in Tissue Culture that are already putting out aerial roots
I have regular monstera delicious and want to buy a moss pole but don't know what size to start a baby plant on , any tips will be appreciated.
There’s some great options of Aroid mix poles. It’s essentially a plastic housing you fill in with aroid mix-those are the ones I’m gonna get! I don’t know the brand yet tho :/
@@prettyingreen grow vertical moss poles?
I was wondering how old is your monstera albo, she's is beautiful
Yeah she’s a 2-3 Years old now!
If the plant clime to the wall. How do you cut the plant and propagate?
Great question! It would have to be removed from the wall if we wanted to chop and propagate
What pest control do you recommend to use for leca and Pon?
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Why won't it climb my wood board?
Have you tried wetting the wood? It might be too dense of a wood… try something like coconut husk