Group B: the motorsport where 50% of the total downforce created by the car is from it's aero mods, the rest is made by the weight of the driver's massive balls
I get it that they would jump sideways on gravel at 120mph as if it was nothing. The car was firmly grounded as it landed thanks to their massive set of balls.
I don’t think the videographers knew what kind of greatness they were filming at the time. Thankful for them capturing this for us and generations ahead to look back at and enjoy.
Tyler Edwards and thankfully a lot was shot on film so it can be scanned and released in HD in the future unlike 90s rallying where nearly all was shot on video and will never be HD.
Guys, Here is Our True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Ad de Jong the deadliest too.. most drivers would get tunnel vision syndrome cause of how fast the cars were.. (tunnel vision syndrome is where you lose your peripheral vision completely.)
@@dark8sounds This wrc stuff you have in today's world ISN'T RALLYING, Rallying disappeared along time ago because it was too dangerous, sadly too many spectators and as well as the drivers were getting killed,with 600+bhp and crazy fan's lining the roads most of the times restricting the drivers vision to only a matter of feet as their doing over 80-90+mph,then flat out into a hornet's nest of crazy spectators who then fan out at the last second, the drivers needed concentration levels of a brain surgeons, the stress levels were double of that of these wrc driver's, the car's weight was that of a milk float,they handled like shopping trolleys, today's wrc car's are full of technology that assists the drivers, they don't even need to take their hand's of the steering wheel to change gear, wrapped up in cotton wool both driver's+co and spectators, you could touch the car's passing you back then (if you was stupid enough), witnessed a man touch a S4 passing doing around 70-80mph then snapped his hand! He was laughing for a second or two then screamed like a 2 year old child as everyone pissed themselves laughing at his floppy hand,now that's RALLYING not this wrc stuff of today,wrc cars are in no way shape or form comparable to GROUP B cars,today's drivers couldn't cope with what GROUP B drivers had to cope with, if wrc is anything like GROUP B then it to would be banned! But it isn't because it's nothing like it,today's wrc's are like PS 4 or Xbox games driving with you're fingertips and changing gear as the do 100mph,everything is made too easy for today's wrc driver's+co,you even need a pair of binoculars to get close to any wrc car,TRUE RALLYING is dead, again " it was banned " Google it! Sorry for my little rant but I had to get it off my chest! Goodbye!!!
So what you said is that Group B should have not been banned because fuck people dying right ? Henri Toivonen and Sergio Crest didn't die proudly. They died in a fire burning alive. I just hope they were unconscious. Toivonen left a wife and 2 children. Now, i do understand that it was fantastic to watch and it was a great age for rally in terms of excitement but don't romanticize it like it was terrible that FIA banned it. They were right. People were dying. The limits were pushed beyond peoples capabilities. @@garyfletcher8150
@@HexYan not one of those Grp B drivers was forced to drive so just remember that.The cars were not made with safety in mind as much as today . Spectators should have been told to stand where safe or the stage will be cancelled BUT THIS DIDNT HAPPEN. The TT races have killed over 200 riders and every single year usually 2 riders are killed .Should that be banned too ? We as humans have our own minds and to reach as high as to be a Legend in motorsport you will take massive risks . Henri and Sergio died with honour doing something they loved and they knew the risks were as high as death.
Yes i agree. But the Group 5 silhouette cars of the 70s and early 80s was quiet cool too. Some of the cars shared the same roadversions as the group B cars.
EmcSqrd gives me shivers reading that. it painted one beauty of a scenario in my mind thats forsure. this must have been the golden days of those peoples' lives.
my dad told me about these races when he was younger when he and his brother worked as paramedics at local rallye races, and when they had a group b classics rally a couple of years ago close tocwhere I live he took me there, I get goosebumps just thinking about it! the sound is amazing and the cars are real life monsters and works of art! this is pure rallye racing!
That was me! Fire pit, a whole prosciutto on my shoulder and a 5 lt jug of green white wine everything homemade of course! WRC Portugal was my World Cup or Super Bowl
The group B category is my absolute favorite group in motorsport. I like how most of them are not ment to look pretty, they just happen to look fantastic in a rather bizarre way.
Guys, Here is Our True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Number 1..Lancia s4 ...a savage of a car.....Number 2 ..Audi S1......a sideways monster. There was a mint condition Lancia s4 on ebay a week ago....buy it now....£240.000!!!! Gulp
My dad experienced group b in Finland. He said they were insanely fast. He didn’t know what was group b. He just was driving down his grandfathers road then all of a sudden a lancia flies down the road head on. He didn’t know what just happened. I showed him other videos of group b and he wished he didn’t just drive off to his dads house.
I once knew a young woman that I took to a group B rally. Her grip almost broke my hand as a Lancia went by. She said "well THAT just happened!" She asked me to buy her new panties. It gives women a special moment. Beat THAT, Audi.
I can vividly remember Hannu Mickalla arriving out of the darkness at around 1am in his Audi Quattro in a bitterly cold Rhigos forest stage above Treherbert in the South Wales in the 1986 Lombard RAC Rally. Back in those days of the death throws of Group B Rallying the excitement and noise, brake discs red hot, huge turbo lag and backfiring of the exhaust as those Quattros sped by. Even though it's nearly thirty years ago, the winters were particularly cold, i think it was snowing or had recently snowed in the Rhigos area of the Valleys, and it only cost £4 to enter the stage. What have we got today, under powered almost production cars in drag, and being asked to pay £26 to enter a tightly controlled forest stage. Group B The days when rallying was exciting not like todays joke.
Richard Cooper Your right there, my mistake. I can remember standing on the corner by the second carpark near the Storrey Arms in the Brecon Beacons in Group Bs final 1985 year. I have photos of the Audis, Lancia Delta S4s, Peugeot 205 Turbos, and i think one or two Metro 6R4s, but i may be wrong on that account. The photographs unfortunately are a bit blurred due to the cars speed approaching me, and my rather basic camera at the time, but i can remember it as if it was only a few years ago. Rallying in the Uk has never been the same since.
azynkron Well everyone did that back then, so fuck them all... However they banned this and they allow something even crazier like the super sport bikes in isle of man tt going super crazy fast... I hate the piece of crap WRC cars from nowadays and most other rally cars and their sounds. They all sound the same crap. And the Subaru's and Lancers also got killed and I don't like much any of the new ones. ps: Imagine nowadays a car made from scratch just for WRC using carbon fiber and all technology from nowadays, it would remove all tarmac from the ground :).
Joe11Blue But they also have rubber and other materials that remove the vibrations too. They use carbon fiber on other racing cars, so they should work good.
it would've been evolved to big pile of corpses... :/ I love these cars, but maybe, just maybe we need to still think a little bit of human lives and safety and use a little bit of common sense first.. I am with you on that, This was the real rally! But...
RoisinT2 I thnk the big problem here is that this group of Rallying came out at the wrong time. It came out at a time when rallying events were too uncontrolled and allowed the crowd to stand dangerously close. I think instead of sacking this group B, they should have worked the events better and made it safer for the crowds. I dont see any other motor sport racing, where the crowd is close enough to actually touch the cars as they go by. So in the end, I dont blame the cars from being too fast, I blame the promoters of these events for failing to provide adequate safety for the spectators.
Fcuking FANTASTIC!! This will never be equaled. I'm old enough to remember this time as a spectator on the RAC stages in the UK. Let me tell you, watching these things at night, in the cold and rain is something I will never forget. I actually followed Henri Toivonen in his Lancia, on the road, between stages, in 1986. Feels surreal now.
man that sounds brilliant. Must have been one heck of a time to be alive. I unfortunately haven't had the pleasure of seeing one of these in person just yet
ill always maintain that the greatest rally drivers ever came from group b. only a select few people could ever handle such incredible machines without diffs, and upgraded suspensions of today's rally cars.
Dunno about that. A few modern drivers own historic rally cars and they drive them just as fast as the drivers of the day. Talent is talent. The era doesn't really make any difference.
@@woopimagpie Um... there are VERY few modern rally drivers that can drive group b cars as fast as the original drivers. I can only name 1 or 2. Also, these cars are usually upgraded with handbrakes, etc. Finally, modern drivers would fucking suck with the manual trans and turbo lag...
It wasn't just that...But Cars were just getting waaaay to fast and the roads weren't tailored for the speed they were going in, causing ALOT of drivers to develop tunnel vision.
Krsin909 the spectators weren't the issue, it was the crash into a crowd of people, 2 drivers dying and manufacturers pulling out after realizing how dangerious it was
Marvdogger2 Well lm trying to lose weight but Chunk the fat little shit keeps giving me bad stuff to eat. If im honest our relationship hasn't been going too well. He treats me like I'm just his bitch and nothing else :( I should have just stayed with mama
The Lancia at 4:40 looks to be going SOO fast it's quite unbelievable. The amount of bravery and skill to tame those cars is just beyond my belief, those drivers have my deepest respect.
sure, i agree with you, but it's that one clip that stands out to me more so than the others. It's the lone car crying out into the night as it continues to race off into the distance. All alone. It's oddly somber yet beautiful
Well if you think about it, that’s basically a metaphor of life: you (the car) almost go crazy in a maze of problems and struggles (the turns), you think there’s someone helping you (the spectators) but in the end we are all alone in this. So we are just cars racing alone through a very hard stage with the risk of losing it all at any time, while our engines scream in pain. And this is what makes our greatness
This is my favorite Group B video. Period. I watch it most nights at bedtime putting my 6 yr old to sleep, who, alongside me, loves Rally and F1. He typically falls asleep towards the end to the sounds of the insane group b engines pushing so hard.
Group B Enginers make flame spitting volcano powered machines, that are driven by godlevel drivers witch's sheer skill and determination wrestling these machines on roads that were never made for them made for the greatest combination for a epic class that sadly will never be seen in the wild again.
Cheers boys, feels good to finally have a "new" video up not something from my old channel re-uploaded. I love the sound of the T16 E2 the way it crackles when they lift of the throttle.
I know the point of this video is the sound, but I think it also demonstrates one of the main reasons modern rallying has become so clinical and error free (read boring). Two words, suspension travel. These cars actually react to the road surface. Modern cars seem to just glide over it in comparison. Maybe the FIA should have considered that rather than bigger wings if they wanted to make the 2017 cars more spectacular.
MTB53850 I agree modern rally cars go through the stages with so little effort now its so stale. I appreciate there going fast and all and the technology but 2017 proposed 380bhp and more areo is welocme but why not just give them 450bhp.
daft mell yea but these group b cars have 450hp in the slow ones and they seem to have plenty traction. I say there should be another open class homologation special rally series.
Hei,fantastic and beautiful video. A great job the best summary in images of the Gr. B, that I have seen. By the way I had the opportunity to know your city a few years ago in a rally.wonderful place .A greeting from Cantabria (Spain).Kiitos
That was real driving, raw power with none of the technological "advances", like electronical differentials, sequential gears, (paddle shifts!!!), etc. I was lucky to compete in in 4 Group B cars, Renault R5, Nissan 240, Celica and the Mazda RX7, and drive, (not in a race), the Opel Manta, and the Lancia Delta s4,, let me tell you guys, they kept you very "busy",(Heel and Toe, no anti-lag, some of them didn't have power steering...etc.And don't get me started on todays F1 !!, lol,
I might be 3yrs late ,but you sir (ARE.)100% correct, WRC are in my opinion NO comparison to group b,for me when group b was banned, nothing has replaced it,WRC cars can practically drive themselves, no need to pay for gym membership if you drove a group b car controlling all that power with just 2arms+2legs and a brain that struggled to keep up with what was going to happen next, none of the technology like they have in today's cars just raw power and crazy b*****D's playing chicken standing in front of an comming 1980's supper car and real men with balls the size of Mellon's OH! and one lady who must have them aswell to drive like she did, group b is now extinct, the ultimate days of rallying but it will never be replaced or forgotten even when we get old then suffer with Alzheimer's,so remember sir WRC is for boys, GROUP B was for men.the younger generation don't know what they have missed,
Actually, those cars were considered technological marvels of their day. It's only by modern standards they seem "primitive". I bet grandpa at the track in 1985 complained about all these newfangled turbos and wastegates and other nonsense. "Back when I was younger we didn't have this 'four wheel drive nonsense', none of these 'turbochargers'! WE had to learn how to make a car go fast with only 40hp and a 3-speed gearbox, only skinny tires with only 2wd! Anyone can drive these modern cars fast, with their four-wheel drive and their 600hp engines; it took a real driver to take a 2CV 100km in 45 minutes!"
@@kelharper7971 finally someone that isn't on the nostalgia train. I'd love group B legends to be back but it's nonsense to say today's cars are easy to drive.
Walter Rohl quien contesto a un periodista que le pregunto como hacia para no perder la concentracion en los tramos con la gente por la carretera: "Me limito a pensar que son arboles" JAJAJAJAJAJA MAESTRO!!!!
That big winged 205 T16 is the best car I've ever seen. Never been a fan of french cars but I'm gonna buy a 205 and rally the shit our of it when I get old :)
@Bobis Vajine So Max Verstappen entering the 2015 Australian Grand Prix at 17, making him the youngest driver to qualify for an F1 grid in the sport's history, isn't impressive? Please, tell me more about your achievements in motorsports, hater. @Jetara A LOT of adolescents who get started in motorsport come from some sort of wealthy background; how do you that they can afford to field teams and buy cars and equipment before getting a sponsor? You're clueless mate. Stop commenting such idiocy.
1986 is Motorsport at its pinnacle, at its absolutely very best. Group B 1986 is the perfect application of courage, passion and soul in driving. But the cost for This wonderful and unreapeatable unforgettable show has been simply too high.
I'm still impressed how the dirt series can reproduce all the car sounds With so much fidelity and perfection. These sounds are practically identical to the ones in the game. And no other game can get close to this.
U mean like chassis upgrades,motor/tranny,suspension,power adders,massage tha body for aero & a wing,cage,no interior,lexan windows...u mean change all that? Thats a race car...
Group B:
the motorsport where 50% of the total downforce created by the car is from it's aero mods, the rest is made by the weight of the driver's massive balls
Also from the weight of Michèle Mouton's FIGURATIVE balls
I thought even their balls are made of carbon fiber 😅
Best comment hands down.
Takes even huger balls to watch from the side of the road
@@dennissmith6783 Bullshit.
120 mph.
on gravel.
sideways.
while jumping.
in the rain.
I love group B
Just a Random Dude It ain’t Group Bae for nothin’
I get it that they would jump sideways on gravel at 120mph as if it was nothing. The car was firmly grounded as it landed thanks to their massive set of balls.
Axl Carmona the balls also helped with the center of gravity I guess
"The delta can go from 0-60 in 2 seconds. On gravel. In 80s"
At Night with snow... thats insane
Group B lacked regulation, which allowed for experimentation, which caused competition, which caused adaptation, which leads to *innovation*
and serious injury *or death* may occur
@@CommunistCentral A *minor* side effect.
@@CommunistCentral worth it
@@docvolt5214 not really...
What innovation did group b actually have?
I don’t think the videographers knew what kind of greatness they were filming at the time. Thankful for them capturing this for us and generations ahead to look back at and enjoy.
Tyler Edwards and thankfully a lot was shot on film so it can be scanned and released in HD in the future unlike 90s rallying where nearly all was shot on video and will never be HD.
Guys, Here is Our True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Wasn't there video of the 90s in Super and/or digital VHS/beta?
my favourite music genre, Group B
Search for it on Spotify😉
Lol Tyler, The Creator just uploaded a new song called "Group B". Coincidence??
Andy KA no because this was commented 4 years ago
@@GENERICNICK-kj4lm so??
@@GENERICNICK-kj4lm actually 5
They look better, they sound better...... hell i want them back........
The golden age of rally......
Ad de Jong the deadliest too.. most drivers would get tunnel vision syndrome cause of how fast the cars were.. (tunnel vision syndrome is where you lose your peripheral vision completely.)
@@wolfox712 Yes yes nowadays wrc cars have beter times on stages, but the thrill will never be the same like in those days.
@@dark8sounds This wrc stuff you have in today's world ISN'T RALLYING,
Rallying disappeared along time ago because it was too dangerous, sadly too many spectators and as well as the drivers were getting killed,with 600+bhp and crazy fan's lining the roads most of the times restricting the drivers vision to only a matter of feet as their doing over 80-90+mph,then flat out into a hornet's nest of crazy spectators who then fan out at the last second, the drivers needed concentration levels of a brain surgeons, the stress levels were double of that of these wrc driver's, the car's weight was that of a milk float,they handled like shopping trolleys, today's wrc car's are full of technology that assists the drivers, they don't even need to take their hand's of the steering wheel to change gear, wrapped up in cotton wool both driver's+co and spectators, you could touch the car's passing you back then (if you was stupid enough), witnessed a man touch a S4 passing doing around 70-80mph then snapped his hand!
He was laughing for a second or two then screamed like a 2 year old child as everyone pissed themselves laughing at his floppy hand,now that's RALLYING not this wrc stuff of today,wrc cars are in no way shape or form comparable to GROUP B cars,today's drivers couldn't cope with what GROUP B drivers had to cope with, if wrc is anything like GROUP B then it to would be banned! But it isn't because it's nothing like it,today's wrc's are like PS 4 or Xbox games driving with you're fingertips and changing gear as the do 100mph,everything is made too easy for today's wrc driver's+co,you even need a pair of binoculars to get close to any wrc car,TRUE RALLYING is dead, again " it was banned " Google it!
Sorry for my little rant but I had to get it off my chest! Goodbye!!!
So what you said is that Group B should have not been banned because fuck people dying right ? Henri Toivonen and Sergio Crest didn't die proudly. They died in a fire burning alive. I just hope they were unconscious. Toivonen left a wife and 2 children. Now, i do understand that it was fantastic to watch and it was a great age for rally in terms of excitement but don't romanticize it like it was terrible that FIA banned it. They were right. People were dying. The limits were pushed beyond peoples capabilities. @@garyfletcher8150
@@HexYan not one of those Grp B drivers was forced to drive so just remember that.The cars were not made with safety in mind as much as today .
Spectators should have been told to stand where safe or the stage will be cancelled BUT THIS DIDNT HAPPEN.
The TT races have killed over 200 riders and every single year usually 2 riders are killed .Should that be banned too ?
We as humans have our own minds and to reach as high as to be a Legend in motorsport you will take massive risks .
Henri and Sergio died with honour doing something they loved and they knew the risks were as high as death.
My wife said to change " the sound" from my alarm clock every morning, she said it's either her or the " the sound"
I miss her sometimes...
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U did a good thing lol
9:29 his foot is held down on that throttle through all of this. I can't wrap my head around that
Skill is a crazy thing
Markku 'Maximum Attack' Alén...
These machines and the turbocharged F1 monsters of the 80s were the pinnacle of motorsport.
Yes i agree. But the Group 5 silhouette cars of the 70s and early 80s was quiet cool too. Some of the cars shared the same roadversions as the group B cars.
CW RH
Dont forget the Group C Endurance Cars.
1000hp for Qualy and hitting the 400s in race in LeMans
CW RH too bad that todays cars are way better
daft mell Better technically but boring in every aspect
And f1 Monsters turbo up to 1400 hp in qualy
Just imagine living in one of these little towns. To hear the beautiful noise of these cars as it echoes through the valley.
EmcSqrd gives me shivers reading that. it painted one beauty of a scenario in my mind thats forsure. this must have been the golden days of those peoples' lives.
already seen itt!!!
my dad told me about these races when he was younger when he and his brother worked as paramedics at local rallye races, and when they had a group b classics rally a couple of years ago close tocwhere I live he took me there, I get goosebumps just thinking about it! the sound is amazing and the cars are real life monsters and works of art! this is pure rallye racing!
TheBeardedMan I've not heard this noise since 1985 , but I got a glimpse last month in my bosses Jag xr
That was me! Fire pit, a whole prosciutto on my shoulder and a 5 lt jug of green white wine everything homemade of course! WRC Portugal was my World Cup or Super Bowl
That flick the 037 does at 2:53 is insane, incredible handling skills.
Markku Alen !!
It’s 3 in the morning, I need sleep... but this video exists.
Atleast its only 10 minutes.
Im literally like you, but a year latee
I 'm the same.
@@Marvdogger2 more like *sadly* it's only ten minutes
The group B category is my absolute favorite group in motorsport. I like how most of them are not ment to look pretty, they just happen to look fantastic in a rather bizarre way.
but they're pretty
@@tommyaustin9924 they aren't meant to but they sure do
pure energy and power. contained in a shell. no extra frills. everything to go fast on a rally course. perfection
Guys, Here is Our True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Theyre 100% function over form and that level of dedication to the craft or body works makes a masterwork
Lancia is a singing beautiful lady.
Audi is a roaring beautiful beast.
Peugeot is like a wolf in the lamb's robe.
I love them forever!
Number 1..Lancia s4 ...a savage of a car.....Number 2 ..Audi S1......a sideways monster. There was a mint condition Lancia s4 on ebay a week ago....buy it now....£240.000!!!! Gulp
Beautiful price
I would even slept in it
I would sleep w it...that sexy tail pipe
Ford is like that crazy kid that like to bring knives to school
And the 6r4.......has thrown a cam belt.
This could stand to be in a rally racing archive. no cringy editing or backround music. simply group B as presented.
My dad experienced group b in Finland. He said they were insanely fast. He didn’t know what was group b. He just was driving down his grandfathers road then all of a sudden a lancia flies down the road head on. He didn’t know what just happened. I showed him other videos of group b and he wished he didn’t just drive off to his dads house.
That's a great story.
The Audi Quattro S1 is pure sex to the ears.
You can just hear the massive torque that that little engine produces..
XD
the only Rally B car to actually sound like it was eating the road, and itself in the process
That’s because it’s the symphony of five angry German cylinders gangbanging one poor turbo impeller
Yet it still got raped by Lancia
5:44 The sound of the Lancia
Almost sounds like an old F1 x)
That almost game me eargasam
I once knew a young woman that I took to a group B rally. Her grip almost broke my hand as a Lancia went by. She said "well THAT just happened!" She asked me to buy her new panties. It gives women a special moment. Beat THAT, Audi.
@@skeggjoldgunnr3167
Italian cars...
I love the 037. Rear wheels spinning at 250mph for 95% of the stage, car doing 80-100mph.
Group B
Best Rally time ever.
I can vividly remember Hannu Mickalla arriving out of the darkness at around 1am in his Audi Quattro in a bitterly cold Rhigos forest stage above Treherbert in the South Wales in the 1986 Lombard RAC Rally.
Back in those days of the death throws of Group B Rallying the excitement and noise, brake discs red hot, huge turbo lag and backfiring of the exhaust as those Quattros sped by.
Even though it's nearly thirty years ago, the winters were particularly cold, i think it was snowing or had recently snowed in the Rhigos area of the Valleys, and it only cost £4 to enter the stage.
What have we got today, under powered almost production cars in drag, and being asked to pay £26 to enter a tightly controlled forest stage.
Group B The days when rallying was exciting not like todays joke.
It must have been 85 as Audi withdrew after Portugal in 86.
Richard Cooper Your right there, my mistake.
I can remember standing on the corner by the second carpark near the Storrey Arms in the Brecon Beacons in Group Bs final 1985 year.
I have photos of the Audis, Lancia Delta S4s, Peugeot 205 Turbos, and i think one or two Metro 6R4s, but i may be wrong on that account.
The photographs unfortunately are a bit blurred due to the cars speed approaching me, and my rather basic camera at the time, but i can remember it as if it was only a few years ago.
Rallying in the Uk has never been the same since.
Peter Lewis its Hannu Mikkola
Lepakkopaska Lepakonpaskaa tiellä
Must have been 84/85 If it was the quattro sport E2 it was 85 the only time it ever raced in Britain.
It always makes me a bit sad thinking what group B would have evolved into today, if it didn't get banned....
azynkron
Well everyone did that back then, so fuck them all...
However they banned this and they allow something even crazier like the super sport bikes in isle of man tt going super crazy fast...
I hate the piece of crap WRC cars from nowadays and most other rally cars and their sounds. They all sound the same crap.
And the Subaru's and Lancers also got killed and I don't like much any of the new ones.
ps: Imagine nowadays a car made from scratch just for WRC using carbon fiber and all technology from nowadays, it would remove all tarmac from the ground :).
guily6669 Carbon fiber is an impact and heavy vibration prone arena of racing. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Leave CF to the on road cars.
Joe11Blue
But they also have rubber and other materials that remove the vibrations too.
They use carbon fiber on other racing cars, so they should work good.
it would've been evolved to big pile of corpses... :/ I love these cars, but maybe, just maybe we need to still think a little bit of human lives and safety and use a little bit of common sense first.. I am with you on that, This was the real rally! But...
RoisinT2 I thnk the big problem here is that this group of Rallying came out at the wrong time. It came out at a time when rallying events were too uncontrolled and allowed the crowd to stand dangerously close. I think instead of sacking this group B, they should have worked the events better and made it safer for the crowds. I dont see any other motor sport racing, where the crowd is close enough to actually touch the cars as they go by. So in the end, I dont blame the cars from being too fast, I blame the promoters of these events for failing to provide adequate safety for the spectators.
Fcuking FANTASTIC!! This will never be equaled. I'm old enough to remember this time as a spectator on the RAC stages in the UK. Let me tell you, watching these things at night, in the cold and rain is something I will never forget. I actually followed Henri Toivonen in his Lancia, on the road, between stages, in 1986. Feels surreal now.
85! Sadly Henri was no longer with us by the RAC in '86.
@@paulcaswell2813
Oooops, thats aged memory for you! Thanks for pointing out the error.
man that sounds brilliant. Must have been one heck of a time to be alive. I unfortunately haven't had the pleasure of seeing one of these in person just yet
Great name, turbo(s)slag
5:03 beautiful sight and sound.
ill always maintain that the greatest rally drivers ever came from group b. only a select few people could ever handle such incredible machines without diffs, and upgraded suspensions of today's rally cars.
Dunno about that. A few modern drivers own historic rally cars and they drive them just as fast as the drivers of the day. Talent is talent. The era doesn't really make any difference.
Sebastien Loeb?
Holy words
@jonny j I mean they do, have you seen some of these late likes peak runs? MINUTES taken off the time the group b guys ran the course
@@woopimagpie Um... there are VERY few modern rally drivers that can drive group b cars as fast as the original drivers. I can only name 1 or 2. Also, these cars are usually upgraded with handbrakes, etc. Finally, modern drivers would fucking suck with the manual trans and turbo lag...
Nothing is as cool when it's safe. Bye group B...
Blame the spectators who would stand like idiots at the worst spots and get hit.
People like aggelos....?
It wasn't just that...But Cars were just getting waaaay to fast and the roads weren't tailored for the speed they were going in, causing ALOT of drivers to develop tunnel vision.
Krsin909 the spectators weren't the issue, it was the crash into a crowd of people, 2 drivers dying and manufacturers pulling out after realizing how dangerious it was
It's like a bad joke your friend says in class while it's quiet... It's 5x times funnier when it's quiet
6:00 the song of the Lancia
1:40 holy shit that lancia is amazing
2:47 god i love the sounds this thing makes.
I want to marry an 037
+Sloth
Not sure if thats possible Sloth. Do you still wear a Superman T shirt?
Marvdogger2 No, I ate to many baby ruth's and now it won't fit me :(
Sloth Baby Ruths and Chocolate cake are no good :( Keep on wiggling your ear.
Marvdogger2 Well lm trying to lose weight but Chunk the fat little shit keeps giving me bad stuff to eat. If im honest our relationship hasn't been going too well. He treats me like I'm just his bitch and nothing else :( I should have just stayed with mama
I’d marry a R34 or a R35
1:30 that v6 roar 😍
The Lancia at 4:40 looks to be going SOO fast it's quite unbelievable.
The amount of bravery and skill to tame those cars is just beyond my belief, those drivers have my deepest respect.
Exactly
Delta S4 is fucking evil.
+Alexander Shepard
yes, it killed Group B™
But it is LEGEND
twin charged sound of my dteams !
+Russell Jones dreams***
Russell Jones Fastest rally car that ever was and ever will be. Sad and magnificent at the same time.
That's true but really all of these cars are evil death machines lol
Ahhhh, the golden age of rallying....
Nrrrrrrrrr
Nrrrrrrrr
Nrrrrrrrrrrr
Skrototo
Nrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
4:18
4:03 that sound……… IS SO AWESOME! Just how fast it gets going is just soo cool.
i don't know how, but 4:25 made me feel very emotional. very picturesque
Every part of this video makes me emotional and I know how
sure, i agree with you, but it's that one clip that stands out to me more so than the others. It's the lone car crying out into the night as it continues to race off into the distance. All alone. It's oddly somber yet beautiful
+thepluraloftiger i think the clip at 5:45 has the same application of that as well or at least to me
Well if you think about it, that’s basically a metaphor of life: you (the car) almost go crazy in a maze of problems and struggles (the turns), you think there’s someone helping you (the spectators) but in the end we are all alone in this. So we are just cars racing alone through a very hard stage with the risk of losing it all at any time, while our engines scream in pain. And this is what makes our greatness
@@claudiaficicchia446 that's deep
God, that S4 noise... The whine of the supercharger + the whistle of the turbo = boner
This is my favorite Group B video. Period. I watch it most nights at bedtime putting my 6 yr old to sleep, who, alongside me, loves Rally and F1. He typically falls asleep towards the end to the sounds of the insane group b engines pushing so hard.
4:48 dat flame
I think I just jizzed my pants when the Lancia launched.
It happened to me!!
Yeah...it's a scary beast when launch...
I get all emotional when I hear those sounds especially when I hear that Quattro roar. This is true motorsport.
The hissing of the Lancia's volumetric engine sends shivers down your spine.
I wish cars sounded like this again.
That little Metro 6R4 is insane. Love the sound of it.
my 2 weeks baybe sleep with this sounds
Lol 😁
Dokurviator- jazda niebezpieczna siema dokurviator
Wat . lol
Damn starting too early
is her name mc rae?
Love it . Miss these days . Want to start my old celica up .
Group B
Enginers make flame spitting volcano powered machines, that are driven by godlevel drivers witch's sheer skill and determination wrestling these machines on roads that were never made for them made for the greatest combination for a epic class that sadly will never be seen in the wild again.
Cheers boys, feels good to finally have a "new" video up not something from my old channel re-uploaded. I love the sound of the T16 E2 the way it crackles when they lift of the throttle.
This car it's amazing
037 only rear traction
the great machine Lancia
luca lucas yeah it was so great that the audi quattro was hell qiucker than the rwd'd 😂😂
@@kanciastygra actually Lancia with rws won the championship against the Audi quattro
Person: "what music do you listen"?
Me: "it's complicated"
i take 5 minutes dose of of rally videos every night before sleep it helps
how could anyone not like this?
Phillip Knudsen non-car guys
And Karens
10 minutes of cancer cure
the delta s4 sounds crazy, hiss and flutter of the turbo and the whine of the supercharger, very nice. awesome video
This may be the first youtube video I've EVER seen with no negative comments. Such is the power of group B! (Praise B!)
The best noises are the 6R4 and the Quattro.
God damn I wish I could see a Group B rally.
S1 by far, sorry. ;)
Would have to agree, think Quattro takes the cake here. :)
Yeah,especially the 6r4 in 1:33,i would marry this clip,for sure XD
I know the point of this video is the sound, but I think it also demonstrates one of the main reasons modern rallying has become so clinical and error free (read boring). Two words, suspension travel. These cars actually react to the road surface. Modern cars seem to just glide over it in comparison. Maybe the FIA should have considered that rather than bigger wings if they wanted to make the 2017 cars more spectacular.
MTB53850
I agree modern rally cars go through the stages with so little effort now its so stale. I appreciate there going fast and all and the technology but 2017 proposed 380bhp and more areo is welocme but why not just give them 450bhp.
MTB53850 because you dont need 450
daft mell there's no such thing as too much power
robuk1981 a 600 hp E63 is faster than a 1000 hp E63. because if you have no traction all your power is useless
daft mell yea but these group b cars have 450hp in the slow ones and they seem to have plenty traction. I say there should be another open class homologation special rally series.
Love this video, no music, no commentary. Just pure raw innovative power
4:10 I love that silence while jumping, then the wet sound of the tyres hitting the ground and the come back of the engine! Beautiful
the slide at 6:42 is pure poetry.
8:29 was pretty beautiful too
Group B rallying will always be far better than today's dull rallying. Long live Group B Rallying!!!!
Just beautiful
i dont know how i got here but I am humbled by the beauty and sound of these savage works of art.
Insane motors, insane cars, insane pilot, totally crazy spectators!
80's, we miss you!
"Eargasm"
Santeri Palokas Hahahhhhhhhh 😬
3:23
Air on Gear shift.. Group b Melody to my ears
Hei,fantastic and beautiful video. A great job the best summary in images of the Gr. B, that I have seen. By the way I had the opportunity to know your city a few years ago in a rally.wonderful place .A greeting from Cantabria (Spain).Kiitos
thanks you
RS200 is fire.
especially when you bounce off a tree and the fuel tank busts
@@tacticalbondsh u mean lancia s4?
@@skout256 I was referring specifically to the Mark Surer crash: czcams.com/video/gYUILo6MmkA/video.html but maybe all Group B cars were like that
That was real driving, raw power with none of the technological "advances", like electronical differentials, sequential gears, (paddle shifts!!!), etc. I was lucky to compete in in 4 Group B cars, Renault R5, Nissan 240, Celica and the Mazda RX7, and drive, (not in a race), the Opel Manta, and the Lancia Delta s4,, let me tell you guys, they kept you very "busy",(Heel and Toe, no anti-lag, some of them didn't have power steering...etc.And don't get me started on todays F1 !!, lol,
jcdtiti The ol FB rx7, eh? Not too shabby at all
I might be 3yrs late ,but you sir (ARE.)100% correct, WRC are in my opinion NO comparison to group b,for me when group b was banned, nothing has replaced it,WRC cars can practically drive themselves, no need to pay for gym membership if you drove a group b car controlling all that power with just 2arms+2legs and a brain that struggled to keep up with what was going to happen next, none of the technology like they have in today's cars just raw power and crazy b*****D's playing chicken standing in front of an comming 1980's supper car and real men with balls the size of Mellon's OH! and one lady who must have them aswell to drive like she did, group b is now extinct, the ultimate days of rallying but it will never be replaced or forgotten even when we get old then suffer with Alzheimer's,so remember sir WRC is for boys, GROUP B was for men.the younger generation don't know what they have missed,
What f1? Lol
Actually, those cars were considered technological marvels of their day. It's only by modern standards they seem "primitive". I bet grandpa at the track in 1985 complained about all these newfangled turbos and wastegates and other nonsense. "Back when I was younger we didn't have this 'four wheel drive nonsense', none of these 'turbochargers'! WE had to learn how to make a car go fast with only 40hp and a 3-speed gearbox, only skinny tires with only 2wd! Anyone can drive these modern cars fast, with their four-wheel drive and their 600hp engines; it took a real driver to take a 2CV 100km in 45 minutes!"
@@kelharper7971 finally someone that isn't on the nostalgia train. I'd love group B legends to be back but it's nonsense to say today's cars are easy to drive.
No joke, I fell asleep to this last night
Where has this vid been my whole life? Love it. Group B was so cool. Those cars were so crazy and badass.
Walter Rohl quien contesto a un periodista que le pregunto como hacia para no perder la concentracion en los tramos con la gente por la carretera: "Me limito a pensar que son arboles" JAJAJAJAJAJA MAESTRO!!!!
That big winged 205 T16 is the best car I've ever seen. Never been a fan of french cars but I'm gonna buy a 205 and rally the shit our of it when I get old :)
The 5 cylinder always makes me cry tears of joy.
One of Europe's most beloved sport
Those MG's are amazing!!!
I know right, its a square with a great sounding engine and in my Opinion good looks
1:46 yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Please tell me it’s not just me who has such a strong emotional reaction to this video that my eyes well up with tears.
The R5 through the town - magnificent footage :-)
1:44 The Queen
This may not be the best video on youtube, but I can't think of a better one
Calumba 1904 Thanks mate!
Not kidding, I actually felt shivers down my spine hearing that Quattro approaching...what a mean sound
RIP Hannu. Takes an absolute legend to drive these fast
The adrenalin rush must've been insane coming off the starting line
Back then people dedicated their lives to this, nowadays we have 17yr old kids with rich daddies on the scene. Motorsport is just done.
Stroll achieved more than Hulkenberg already, get real
@@erebousde kinda sad actually
at least that 17 yo have talent
Motorsport will never be done. Don’t fool yourself. The racing drug is more pure than anything on the earth.
@Bobis Vajine So Max Verstappen entering the 2015 Australian Grand Prix at 17, making him the youngest driver to qualify for an F1 grid in the sport's history, isn't impressive? Please, tell me more about your achievements in motorsports, hater. @Jetara A LOT of adolescents who get started in motorsport come from some sort of wealthy background; how do you that they can afford to field teams and buy cars and equipment before getting a sponsor? You're clueless mate. Stop commenting such idiocy.
"If your life isnt in danger then you arent having fun."
-Bladed Angel
I discovered this video years ago, but it’s still my favorite montage on CZcams. It’s like a god damn symphony. Thank you.
This is literally my favorite video on youtube.
+jsn btc
Thanks mate. Its my most popular video on youtube.
I see more talent in this video, than what I would see in today's racing drives.
0:10 Blood all over the turbo, confirming that Group B cars were powered by human sacrifice.
I've never watched this nor i was born at the time.. but this is pure awesomeness. It almost made me emotional like a beautiful melody
all the blow off sounds ❤
5:03 The sound of that 5 banger is pure ecstasy!
1986 is Motorsport at its pinnacle, at its absolutely very best. Group B 1986 is the perfect application of courage, passion and soul in driving. But the cost for This wonderful and unreapeatable unforgettable show has been simply too high.
I'm still impressed how the dirt series can reproduce all the car sounds With so much fidelity and perfection. These sounds are practically identical to the ones in the game.
And no other game can get close to this.
The cars still exists... Codemasters just recorded the sound.
@@Charlie-oq4mk isn't that simple, just look to other games and you'll see this
Fantastic! Lancia Rally 4 ever!
As I have seen in another video: "WRC is for boys - Group B was for men" - except women like Michelle Mouton; world greatest amazon.
Hein Blöd Michelle Mouton is a beast.
Michelle Mouton could be a trans female to male, and you’d swear she was biologically male.
Dam right best ever rally cars ever now the wrc is for babys what whimps
A very good looking woman and a brilliant driver
Doesn't matter what anyone says, this is all the proof we need that any car can be a total monster if you change the right things
U mean like chassis upgrades,motor/tranny,suspension,power adders,massage tha body for aero & a wing,cage,no interior,lexan windows...u mean change all that? Thats a race car...
the actual racecars and the road going counterparts have almost nothing in common with each other
Great video, by the time that S1 pulled off I had built up the perfect amount of anticipation for maximum enjoyment