The Awesome Cooler You Can Actually Afford - Noctua Redux
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Meet Noctua’s first foray into a value line of CPU coolers. It's a trimmed down version of the excellent NH-U12S - but.. do the savings match the performance?
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0:00 Intro
1:02 Dad Joke
1:12 The competition
1:34 Unboxing
2:00 What's changed
4:42 Thermals
5:40 Acoustics
7:03 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
Could you please keep these timestamps as a regular thing. They are really helpful.
Yes!
it's probably only for short videos
Agreeed, it's one of the requirements for me anyway when it comes to allot of tech related videos, otherwise it just becomes tedious to skip through everything probably missing stuff in the process.
yes i needed to find the dad joke
altho they should put that in the description first
Linus’s last words: I am about to die but you know what isn’t going to die our sponsor, Ridge Wallet…
no
"I am about to die... but you know what isn’t going to die? Our sponsor, Ridge Wallet!"
Fixed it for you, you're more than welcome.
glasswire*
...but Ridge Wallet only has a *lifetime* warranty...
"My coffin was sponsored by ....... Funeral house, ....... Funeral House wants to redefine the way you reside underground, click the link below to obtain 20% discount for your coffin as well"
Noctua sent me a bracket for an OOOLD 980x just bc my friend and I wanted to science on his stuff with my cooler. They covered shipping bc they're GLORIOUS HUMAN BEINGS.
They replaced an old case fan in my server that had died after running nonstop for over 5 years. No charge for the fan or shipping. They're a great company.
they covered shipping and sent you the part for free because you already paid for that when you bought your fan
@@Zloy_nub can guarantee my $60 cooler didn't cover shipping costs from Austria to the USA, during covid
@@heytheresakitty well, worldwide shipping is around $7 for non express delivery, if they sent it to you with Fedex/UPS then yes, you're right
Thats amazing! Gotta love noctua
I didn't have to pay for shipping for the upgrade kit for my 10 year old Noctua cooler. I just filled out a form and it showed up in the mail a couple days later, completely free. _That_ is how you build brand loyalty.
Hi
Which cooler system
Do you recommend for AMD Ryzen 9 5900x
I never used this type of cooler system
True. An only Noctua can do this. Every other fan would die before.
And loose money when costumers haven't upgraded in 10 years and still wont because they get it for free
@@Quantumfluxfield I have since bought another Noctua cooler for my NAS and like 4 fans and I'm recommending Noctua to anyone who asks for cooler recommendations. I'd say they've got the right idea.
@@Quantumfluxfield Noctua is THE go-to for air coolers and fans. When I think air cooler, I think brown and beige.
"... and not because I'm some kind of FAN boy!"
That's the real dad joke right here
How did i not notice this
@@tomislavtosic992 Me neither, I feel stupid :D
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Damn, I was really hoping for comparisons to the 212 Evo or Cryorig H7.
Don't, CM212 was great 10 years ago. For a similar price, thr Arctic Freezer 34 is miles better than the horrible Cm212
Yeah, I saw the paid link and was so sad they didn't compare. Regardless, this was convincing enough for me to switch out my OG 212 for the Redux. Don't disappoint me Noctua!
@@Soggyhead1 it's going to do way better than a 212. I haven't had a Noctua cooler, but I have had a Hyper 212 and that was already fully saturated with a 6700k at 4.5GHz all-core. Depending on how much load you put into your coolers and how you had the fan profile for the 212 set, you might go from inaudible to inaudible, but I can assure you the Noctua has a ton more potential than the 212.
@@Soggyhead1 The temperature is given in the video. Now compare it with your one. Brainless
@@SLACkra dude got triggered lol
I'm grateful for him covering the fact that Noctua sends you the new mounting hardware for new sockets. I actually went through the process and it saved me so much money on a new cooler. I've had the same one for over 7 years
Reason for the thick spacer, straight from the Install Guide:
"The NH-U12S includes an extra set of fan clips and an extra set of thicker anti-vibration pads for installing a second NFF12 fan in push/pull mode in order to further improve cooling performance.
Please use the thicker anti-vibration pads on the rear NF-F12 fan for improved acoustics if space allows"
LTT has time stamps in the description now?! This is great!
I can finally go right to the dad joke first ...
I guess thqty’ve been trying that since techlinked
But yes, this is the first main channel on LMG i’ve seen with dedicated chapter markers
Pls correct me if there’s any previous ones with such chapter markers.
Linus:buy this cpu cooler
Me with the fan taped on the side of my pc: I see no difference here?
@about you reported for spam.
The box fan technique on the side of the case is a millenary practice that has always worked
Title's been changed again
You work with what you can twerk..
If I had 50$ for a cooler, I'd get the Better, Cheaper, and more Esthetic Artic Freezer 34 Esports Duo.
Or I would go for the Scythe Fuma 2 for 60$, which is frankly amazing.
Have an NH-D15 right now, absolutely love it. Didn't know about Noctua's willingness to send new mounting hardware for newer platforms. Very cool move, I'm definitely a life customer.
5:22 those thick antivibration pads are there to prevent whining of the second fan in higher rpms. This is a known fact in the whole range of Noctua coolers, but mostly U14S and D15(S) are known to have the whining, when the fans are mounted in pull position instead of push.
I hope you guys keep the timestamps! I always watch your videos in full, but timestamps are helpful when I have to watch a certain part again without skimping the video lmao
Noctua is honestly incredible
Incredibly overpriced
Haha gottem
no
Ugly
You can but Zalman cnps-20x for the price of the redux that can almost outperform noctua nh-d15
My system is full on Noctua and temps never hit 70 anymore despite my case having mediocre air flow. Love them and the warranties put them over the top.
My life has become so much better knowing there is a dedicated dad joke section.
Thank you. I second this, Linus.
LOVE The time stamps thank you to whoever added those
Only if I can get it in the classic brown and beige coloring.
Ppl call it poop brown
could look cool with a desert camo themed build
Redux is only 9% ($135 -> $125) cheaper here. So I'd still pay for the non-redux to avoid the horrible grey and stick with the traditional colours.
Said no one ever
I love the fact that the people who are fast here don't say they were quick here but they actually talk about the stuff he says in the vids
Yup, no 9 year olds here lol
Either did you tho ....
And then you ruin it by talking about people who were fast here instead of talking about the video.
@@waferbarr I was about to say I'm 9 yrs old but I forgot im now 13... xD
Got my first Noctua U12S Black a few weeks ago and I will for sure be sticking to them in the foreseeable future :)
Omg timestamps in an LTT video?! I'm so happy
Whatever you say my lord
Eye to an eye
@@ingrata6602 tooth for a tooth
@@chr0ma105 gpu for a gpu
daddy always right
@@VERSA6969 ram for ram
i love this new editing style, very helpful
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Legit this video has amazing content that answers all the questions id have for this product, but what seriously makes this video stand out is the TIME STAMPS!!! Please keep them 🙏💯
Noctua's my go to HSF ever since the LGA 775 era where it became known. I never opted for any AIO or other exotic form of coolers as it is a breeze to setup and its cooling result consistently astounding.
Appreciate the timestamps. It really shows u guys care.
I also appreciated 1:02
Kinda useless though as they're buried in the description under all the sponsorship hawking and self promotion.
@@Bugattiboy912 What device are you on? The timestamps also appear on the timeline of the video on most devices.
@@Bugattiboy912 on pc: you can hover your mose over the video and at the bottom left next to the speed controls you can click to access timestamps. On mobile you tap on the video to open the timeline and at the bottom left next to the timer you can click to access it easily
The moment Noctua decides to make ARGB fans is the moment when they are going to be sued by an Anti-Trust lawsuit because they will essentially kill the competition XD
Nah, they wouldn't do s**t to market by adding ARGB, their ARGB fans would cost $50 a piece.
@@mokujin4076 that's because people try to meet their budget through cheaping on cooling, then either being fine (since they weren't OCing anyways) or eventually upgrade
@@mokujin4076 Insanely stupid comment lol. Redux fans are stupid cheap for their performance.
@@Scytian1 Nah not really. They’d be priced the same as Corsairs RGB garbage but actually be good.
i'll just go with a with Noctua + Phanteks Halos combo instead :)
Just got this cooler along with an extra fan and this indeed does work really well. I was honestly surprised with how spot on linus was about the installation process
I'm a little surprised about them moving into the more mainstream area, but I am very welcoming of it. I love Noctua fans and coolers, and if it's more accessible to more people, then that is great!
Got a "Be quiet dark rock pro 4" which is a bit of an overkill on my AMD Ryzen 5 5600x... but it is very quiet and the thermals are ~cool~
How ~cool~ is it?
Bruh I got a dark rock pro 4 for my 5600x too lol, but it was too big thanks to the ram being too tall ://, so I bought the nh-u12s, thinking of smacking a heavy duty second fan to make it perfect :)
Same, but 1700x.
@@ELDNNN 30 C in daily use (chrome and some other programs)
up to 57 C while gaming (currently cyberpunk on almost ultra no RTX)
@@Foxygamer360 actually this is why i specifically bought the lowest factor RAM i could (Corsair Vengeance LPX 4x8GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16) which is also very good with the cpu
I ended up going with the Scythe Mugen Rev. B for my current rig; basically Noctua-level performance (or damn close) at a much more appealing price tag. Honestly haven't looked back since. I was this close to getting a Noctua cooler, but then I saw more and more posts about Scythe's coolers and they had me hooked instantly.
Yeah most big CZcamsrs Pimp Noctua. But Scythe is very competitive or better in noise to performance ratio.
You should've thrown in a hyper 212 evo as a third party cause a LOT of people use it and it would have been nice to see how the cheaper option fairs against the expensive redux cooler
Edit: I see a lot of people saying the mounting system wasn't good and some even returned it but honestly it was a hassle I agree with only doing it by yourself but it definitely isn't bad enough to return and I have a ryzen 5 2600 at 4ghz 1.375V and never got above 60C
Would like to see the Pure Rock Slim 2 they just released in that round-up
Yeah, I'd like to see that too. I've used them a few times with great results. Even my i7-5820k pulling 140 watts plus never got much above 80 degrees stress testing.
Hyper 212 Evo is cheap, but it almost always require blood sacrifice from me. The fins are so sharp that I always cut my hand when I mount them. If I'm looking for a cheap and quiet air cooler, I will look at Scythe ones.
They put a link to a 212 in the description, for what it's worth.
I think everyone's seen the Hyper Evo vs NH-U12S comparison at this point, so it shouldn't be too hard to have an idea where the Redux version lies. Although you're right would've been handy to see on the chart.
I super love when people put the "table of contents" in the video bar at the bottom, happy to see it on an LTT video
The larger noise dampers help dramatically on push pull setups
Me who sees the title of the video.
My Brain: That's a Noctua, my friend.
Bought this for a now dated i5 2500k using Socket H2 LGA-1155. The description suggests it would be compatible which it sorta is, but not easily. I had to rig it in a weird way for it to work - but it worked.
The frustration was worth it though, my CPU temps are fabulous! Under full load while gaming at Stock CPU speeds, temps never got above 50'c on any of the cores.
Nice and quiet and I'm happy enough with it. When I eventually upgrade my CPU and Mobo this will definitely be used for that setup!
Got a NH-D15 Chromax Black with my ryzen 7 3700x and have fan speed set to 35% which is whisper quiet. Under full load rendering something it’s never exceeding 75C even while making no extra noise. Love it
Great to see you reviewing air coolers again. I hope you will keep doing more of them!
Agreed. I'm not going the water cooled route until I'm forced to.
@@travis1240 Me neither. Why would I cool my CPU with 2-3 fans, a pump, and liquid (!) when I can do it more quietly with a single fan and heatsink?
I'm getting nostalgia for old ltt videos, a simple review of a single product.
The folks at Noctua are really great. I'm happy to pay their premium because the products are excellent and the customer support is great. This can't be said for a majority of PC hardware manufacturers, especially those that make coolers. Further, an excellent air cooler that you can actually get mounting hardware for future sockets makes them last ages. I definitely plan on running my NH-D15S for the next 8-10 years, especially with PC hardware becoming more efficient with time.
This was a refreshingly calm and chill video.
Linus:
“I am become death, destroyer of stock availability”
"I am death, destroyer of stock availability"
*OR*
"I have become death, destroyer of stock availability"
@@aminelswefy1808 it’s a J Robert Oppenheimer quote. Look it up. Surprised you don’t know this.
@@natebit7167 I heard the quote before, but with proper grammar. And if you care for whatever reason, I didn’t know who said it. Also, again, if you care, I’m in hs, so...
@@aminelswefy1808 It is Oppenheimer quoting essentially the Hindu bible. The “incorrect grammar”, is actually correct.
@@theark4568 ok...
U guys are one of the best channels out there and u guys honestly help me get where I am today with my job and personal life.
@UCGq53IUMX2qI82wRHpglz8g without them, I'd probably be lost with what I wanna do in life and not know anything about computers and we'll everything tech
@KelpKibbler Atm im working at best buy helping people getting the computers they need but I'm also working on making my own business
@KelpKibbler I'm working on trying to start my own Small media and tech company, where I do builds for people like hardline water cooling builds or whatever they want but I'd also make some small videos of tech news but nothing like LTT
@KelpKibbler Thanks I appreciate it
@@codyvanhorn9205 yeah, like there isn't a million fucking youtube channels already doing that. Keep thinking about something more unique.
@Linus the thicker vibration pads are because the fan moves a little bit while running and would otherwise hit the metal fins. You should switch the vibration pads to check
Great review, I have the U12 Chromax, it is a phenomenally good cooler. So the Redux will still knock spots off many coolers from their competitors.
Knew it was Noctua from the video notification before I seen the thumbnail 😍
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6:16 holy crap that clip is less than 2 years old, but Linus' beard makes it look so much older
It was the before time. The long long ago.
I used Noctua NF-P12 Redux as my back case fan, so far so good!
the thicker anti-vibration mounts are for the fan in pull configs, so it's not bumping the fin stack if the standard thickness doesn't give enough clearance
This is literally the perfect timing for me
Review more coolers! It helps fill the void that video cards left, also really enjoyed this video!!
The reason they give you the extra thick spacers is for when you mount the fan with the intake side against the heat sink. If you don't space the fan it can cause some strange noises
Even if you are not needing to be on budget, its is great to see a chrome style noctua cooler for those searching out there.
I'm not sure if it's an "issue" specific to Noctua fan designs, but installing the NH-D15's fans with the intake side mounted to the rear of the fin stacks causes very noticeable noisy turbulence. I would assume that's why they included the thick spacers for the rear fan.
I like how you sneaked the globe showing austria in the background /s
For this upside-down joke, I'll throw some Mozart-Kugeln at you :-D
I've a modded coolermaster gts v8 cooler it goes into every build I have (3 so far) now it nested on a 5900x love it
You can also change out the fan later anyways - the key thing is that the 4 heatpipe finstack works similar compared to the high tier NH-U12S. This means you can probably get better results if you buy Noctua's newest fan.
I'm a Noctua fanboy, I just love how quiet my Noctua NH-L9a
I came from a cheap 240aio to an NH-L9a... I was doubting it would be more silent in my tiny system... I was blown away it was less silent and more pleasing to the ear by a huge margin, I simply cannot recommend any other fans/cooler than Noctua now
I'm gonna need to know the editor for this video, they did a really good job!
Thiccccccc Bumper (not enough C’s)
I still using NH-U12P SE since 2010. From Phenom II to 2600 then now 5600x. still rocking quietly.
loving the time stamps rolling out across the ltt channels
I have a D14 and sent Noctua a form for the mounting kit (for ryzen). They sent it and covered the shipping. This was 9 years after I bought it -- for reference, the warranty period is 6 years.
Honestly, their products might be a little expensive, especially the fans, but their service is priceless.
I'm curious, if it wins Arctic Freezer 34 Duo. That's a beast for its price.
i have it and yes it's awesome
You really should compare Your Freezer 34 Duo with Fera 5 cooler. Fera 5 beats in perf/price comparison easly.
Honestly the arctic freezer 34 (non dual) did not really worked well for me and my ryzen 3600. Mounted several times.. at a medium load he was really noisy or hot with around 70 celsius ... But only my experience
I am cooling two E5-2687w v2 with 150W TDP each with AC 34 Duos. Works extremely well. These coolers are beasts for the money.
@@Hace1410 Try Fera 5 with single fan if you can buy it somewhere :D
having had a dh15s for a few years now I've never thought those weren't that expensive for much better cooling overall. Still comparable cooling to some standard water cooling solutions and far less of a pain to install.
Great vid. Always want to hear about noctua products.
Imagine beeing the best CPU cooler on the entire Market
Imagine a world where every sentence doesn't start with imagine.
@@crawlingivy1 imagine
imagine. -CW
@@LinusTechTips yoooooooo
Imagine...
the arctic freezer 34 esports duo is also a really good cooler for the price
+1
love the cooler but i had such a pain in the ass installing it the 3 times i did
@@deathica3346 same for me, almost all arctic products are not easy to install, but hey, its a good cooler
@Al Catraz i bet it does!
@Al Catraz
yeah the white looks great.
Noctua is also releasing white fans+ coolers this year im excited bout the looks of em
Honestly the 65 I spent on my NH U9S Chromax Black was the best money I spent on my matx build. Good to see Noctua making it easier to get peace of mind.
Thank you, I am planning on buying this one over their largest air cooler (forgot the name) because of the price. Now I know it’s fine for my use case
Nice MK reference, but after seeing your performance while playing that game a few videos ago, I can't help but shiver
Saying "200 Rip 'ems" immediately reminded me of AvE, Linus's more foul-mouthed machinist fellow BC resident. ;)
Same!
Same , maybe a colab coming up, it would be great but I don't know how AvE could do it without showing is face
@@Saiimunn My guess is that if it DID happen, it would be something along the lines of "Linus went and done broke this expensive thing, and he asked if I could fix it. Seein' as this job will keep me from making my to-do list around the Empire Of Dirt shorter, I told him to box it up and send it over, and I'd take a look to see if I can get 'er choochin' again."
Just bought this on your recommendation Linus. Thanks. Used your link too 😁.
Noctua absolutely rocks in term of post sales support. This is the second adapter they ship me for free for my good old NH-U12P i bought in 2009 !!!
The value for the money is incredible
You can also always buy non-redux fans later if the noise is bothering you
I wouldn't be so sure - the higher RPM of the Redux fan is likely necessary to improve the cooling performance given the reduction in heat pipes -CW
@@LinusTechTips it really depends on the wattage of the CPU you're using if your using a 65w chip the difference between 4 and 5 heat-pipes is going to be negligible its when you get to higher wattage chips that the real difference between the fans will begin to show but if your picking up a 95w+ chip i would look at larger cooler anyway, i am currently running a r5-3600x on a noctua l9x65 with a average deltaT over ambient of 55c at stock voltages
I have the Hyper 212! I built it in my PC this month! It is an awesome cooler, recommend it strongly.
there is this cooler called the Gelid Solutions Phantom, which is around 30-35$ at my place. It's quite high on the cpu cooler tier list on the ltt forums. It idles around 26-36 with my ryzen 7 3700x, and 50-60 under heavy load with some high end thermal grizzly compound. It has 2 fans included, great value.
I have 2 80mm redux fans in my matx sleeper build. Great value
For 50 dollars you could also get the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.5
Or $10 more get the Scythe Fuma 2
Great cooler, absolutely agree
I've had the Fuma 2 with 7 total Scythe fans in my CPU case for the past year. Fans are all running near medium speed and it sound like a jetliner moving slowly through the air. Idle temps are around 30C at room temperature and never over 60C at load. 👍
Absolutely love my Mugen, got the black one and swapped their fan for 2 Noctua NF-F12's, keeps my Ryzen 7 5800x nice and cool
And both are beaten by cheaper Fera 5 cooler from SilentiumPC :D
www.igorslab.de/en/silentiumpc-fera-5-im-test-2/3/
@@techgeek7173 could be due to the direct touch heatpipes, willing to bet if Mugen had em it'd be even better
Oh, now you tell me after I got a new CPU cooler this week.
If you wait long enough, you'll never buy anything. What'd you get?
I think I'll get a second fan for my old U12S, I love how they supply mounting hardware free but for my 5800X I just purchased locally because it was cheap and quick.
Hey! i got those fans for my 5000d airflow recently, nice!
I love how the team was so "entertained" by linus' dad joke that they made it a chapter on youtube
I got a Redux and LOVE it for my Ryzen 5 5600x. I got the add on fan, so mine has 2 fans for push/pull config. Mine did come with the clips.
Just want to point out how I love the positioning of that globe in the background, New Zealand in the center! 🤣
Anyway Silentium PC Fera 5 Dual is the best (budget) cooler for CPU. But idk it is available to buy outside Poland/Europe.
Hey Linus, you should do a review on the x proto itx case. It looks awesome!
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+1
Rubber pads are definitely an acoustic choice. When a fan spins, it generates vibrations, which would then press against the heatsink and potentially even project outwards increasing the volume of the cooler. The Pads act as a suspension between the cooler and the heatsink eliminating vibrations and likely shaving a few db. The big gap is probably so that the air doesn't whistly through the heatsink and enters at a lower pressure lessening the need for a conversion cable to low rpm which would in turn lower the pressure so very smart moves on Noctua. Every little thing they do has a really good reason
definitely using this in some builds
I only notice my fans when I take a break for 5 min and it’s always right before I go back to playing
And then i get a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B SCMG-5100 cheaper then the Nocuta, at same or better performance.
6 heat pipes, and quiet
Very good review Linus! 👍😁
I found an old NH-U12 for 15€, I was so glad that noctua has mounting for comptability! My already low temps 1500X is really ice cold now
When he was talking about the sso stuff , i was like we definitely getting custom made fans builds xD
Scythe Mugen 5 is a fantastic balance of cost , noise and performance.
Or the fuma 2. Its really quiet and cools my i5 10600k ocd to 4.8ghz pretty damn well.
Underrated cooler indeed. I probably won’t buy noctua again now scythe stuff is as good but cheaper and still has a nice mounting system
I have one and my Ryzen 2600 never hits 70c even Maxxed out on tests, games, or rendering.
Indeed. I would bet a dollar that the Mugen 5 is the better cooler as well. It's just a better cooler and it doesn't cost more for more features.
Here i was thinking that decibel were log base e like any sensible unit, I guess you learn something new everyday.
Thank you for making this.
Could you do a comparison between Noctua NF A12x25 vs Thermaltake Toughfan 12? Since it seems that Thermaltake basically made a black Noctua fan
I just looking up about cpu cooler and you just uploaded literally minutes.
I have a few Redux fans in my computer and I'm super happy with them. You can't beat that performance for that price.
I got this cooler a couple of days before this video released it was a breeze to install as i just had a crappy intel stock cooler. Glad to see i made a good choice!