Note that in Halo Infinite, the Spartan IVs on the ring's surface were fighting for six months with zero (known--none of them mentioned anything about wayward augments in the logs) augmentation issues. Either it proves the augmentations' stability, or the checkups were being used as an invisible leash to keep the IVs in hand.
I believe that you are right about all the maintenance being a "leash measure." But, I'd also like to add a thought of that, all the maintenance and such (the whole host of support roles and needs and such) was a clever bid by lobbyists and other people wanting a renewal of the military industrial complex. The way installation 00 describes it in the beginning of the video, it's a lot like how our (US military) current military industrial complex operates so that we have $300 hammers.
Or maybe it's just that each individual author that 343 hires to write their books just can't keep up with the deluge of other bits and parts of lore that come from other authors and stories and such, so they forget important things frequently.
Could it be possible that Spartan IVs are so maintenance heavy (medical scans, etc) not because they need it, but as a way to keep them under control? After all, ONI seems pretty worried about the possibility of rogue Spartans- making the IVs think they need all those resources would be a good way to keep them loyal.
Definitely an interesting idea, though there may not be much evidence either way (I don't recall the possibility ever even being mentioned, so I must point out that such evidence might just not exist)
I'd imagine its a mixture of both. Like, it's very possible that ONI intentionally designed the augmentations to require regular medical maintenance, etc, to keep them loyal rather than just rely on the impression its needed
I think the maintenance is more for optimization of performance. It's not that they NEED the maintenance, but the complexity of their equipment and implants means they need a team of specialists to keep it all in top condition. It's also possible that all the extra medical exams and reviews are to monitor and optimize their performance, and would have been included on the Spartan II's and Spartan III's if not for the desperate situation of the Human-Covenant War. Now that the UNSC has the resources and manpower, they can afford to spare no expense in keeping their super soldiers in tip top shape.
The Spartan IIs are undoubtedly awesome I'll always have a soft spot for the spartan IIIs, unlike the 2s and 4s the 3s were made to be expendable, performing some of the most dangerous and consequently most critical missions without the technological advantages of the other classes. Thrown in handfuls at the breach in the hopes that they could slow down the March of the covenant. They are the unsung heroes of the human covenant war in my opinion and we will never know most of their names or the sacrifices they made to give humanity a chance to stumble to its feet and fight back
Yeah. I would love to see spartan 3s come back but with new Mjolnir tech, and be like a smaller more elite special forces/black ops unit that does more high value or critical missions than the spartan IVs
The only shortcoming of the spartan III program was the armour they were given since a suit of mjolnir was the same price as a UNSC frigate. Still they were excellent Spartans who did more with less.
Am I the only person who after hearing this at 25:33 thought... - "All remaining nutrients are now ready for remote activation." - "Remote activation? From here?" - "Don't be ridiculous..." - "Listen Tinker Bell... Don't make me..."
On the day that everyone becomes a Spartan is the day when UNSC starts looking for ways to make Olympians, nd on the day everyone becomes an Olympian is the day the UNSC starts making Titans, and then from Titans to Primordials (no, not like that one). Spartans shouldn't humanity's end point. They should be the springboard to something even stronger.
In my opinion, I'd say the Spartan IVs are the pinnacle of the Spartan Generations. They have saved millions of people during wars againts the remnants of The Covenant, the Promethean forces and even the newly introduced Banished forces. They have the best tech integrated into their armor as well as reasonable and fitting augmentations. People might not like my decision, I enjoy the Spartan IVs for what they've become. Even Fireteam Osiris are pretty badass.
People who get hung up on the S-IVs' shortcomings relative to past generations are missing the point: S-IVs are logistically easier to work with, can be fielded in much greater numbers while still remaining _very_ formidable at the individual and the squad level, and they may well form the basis for vastly superior future generations who might be far more comparable to their direct predecessors. Barring some mistakes made in psychologically profiling and security-screening certain S-IVs, I view Project ORCHID as a huge step forward, and a promising look into the future of the UNSC armed forces and eventually, perhaps even humanity's physical evolution.
Plus, with postwar manpower shortages and population decline, there's no way for ONI to get away with child-napping shenanigans again so all they have to work with is adults for the foreseeable future.
Honestly the community gets so entrenched in the "but muh spartan II's!" mindset that they miss the bigger picture with the 4's. A spartan II can only be made with 1 out of a billion people, whereas a iv even with less power than a II can be made from just about anyone. This makes them superior strategic tools, as they can be deployed on mass to affect a battlefield whereas a II, while impressive will always have limited impact upon a battlefield due to the sheer scope any real scale war theater would encompass. The IV's and II's can be compared to the Germany versus France tank roles early in WWII. While France's tanks were technically superior in most regards to the Germans, the Germans numerical superiority and doctrine allowed them to overrun the superior French designs and crush the French early in the war. The same thing happened during the end of the war with Germany producing high complexity, heavy importance tanks like the Tiger and Tiger II while the Soviets went with large numbers of good enough T-34s. Hell, this can even be seen in Halo reach, as although Noble team was amazing, there simply wasn't enough of them to actually turn the tide, and Reach fell all the same. While a II may be superior in a 1v1 to a IV, any decent commander will ensure that they aren't fighting a 1v1 but at least a 3v1 if not more. So at the end of the day, I would argue for the UNSC as a whole, the IVs will be a superior tool for waging a real war should the need ever occur.
Precisely. Logistics win wars ultimately and the S-IV are a solid step in that direction. Looking long term In the far future I'd want my lowest average human soldier to be the level of the S-IV's. Humanities armies suddenly become extremely formidable, the closest to our Ancient Human ancestors.
I wish 343 would just stop listening to the dumbass fanboys when it comes to story\lore. These stupid fanboys are fine replaying the same game and story they've played decade ago
#Installation00 I think the limited nature of Spartan IV - their regular need for medical examination and far more care than previous Spartans - was a deliberate move by ONI. They learned from their experiences with Daisy, Soren 066 and ILSA Zane. They wanted supersoldiers on leash, not Supersoldiers who might follow their conscience and try to fight ONI. What do you think??
@@quinn8599 Eh, nothing is as scary after reading 1984 years before I probably should have. Go read it. It will haunt you for the rest of your life and you won't be scared of such tame (and logical) theories ^^.
I can see the meta stability of the S4's augmentations being an intentional bug on behalf of ONI to ensure that spartan deserters don't become a thorn in the UNSC by limiting their operational utility outside of the UNSC without their support.
These alterations seem oddly similar to the Space marine creation in the Warhammer 40k universe. Both are way cool. It's just fascinating to see that cybernetics are a staple of top tier science fiction soldiers.
Anyone wanting to be a real Spartan should start working out now and training to the level of a Navy SEAL. Every Spartan candidate including John-117 had to workout to be ready to receive their augmentations. Couch potatoes need not apply. 🤣
IRL They'll just send you off to die for no reason. Or use you as a disposable lab rat. In the Halo Universe the Spartans are literally fighting against a genocidal enemy for their own survival and that of humanity.
Unless we face a military enemy that runs the risk of causing our extinction, there will never be super soldiers anywhere near the level of spartans. The military doesnt even give our current soldiers the best gear and armor they could. Its a cost/quality balance. Take into account 1 navy seal costs about $500,000 dollars to just to train.
@Cooper Webb If you live in a country with politicians, you're already a tool for them. Everyone is a tool for something, whether they admit it or not.
Spartan-III’s will always be my favorite. The perfect balance between 2’s and 4’s. They also went into combat scenarios that had practically zero percent survivability but went in guns blazing
Generally speaking: seem the only REAL flaw with the Spartan IVs is their high maintenance requirements. They fix that issue and they'd be as versatile are the previous generations. Probably be the Spartan Vs.
Sometimes you Wana make sure your soldiers aren't given too long a leash, especially somthing like the Spartans, you wouldn't want them to get ideas about not needing the rest of us
@@nickburton9366 yep, otherwise you get rogue soldiers like Mickey, originally in Buck's ODST Squad, Alpha-Nine that defected to the rebels after becoming a Spartan IV
I think its possible that the spartan 2's and 3's might have received the s4 augments they are effectively missing. I also think that the s4's gradualy adapt to their augmentations too, making maintainance less and less necessary over time and slowly increading the spartans capabilities too, maybe even closing the s2 to s4 gap after a few decades, if the s4 has a cat2 genome. The maintainance would only be necessary because of the late augmentation date based long adaptation time (likely many years) and to always have peek fighting capabilities , but not for augmentation retention (i bet the s2 have a similar maintanance program for fitness. Spartans are considered army property, so maintainance is the used word). A cat2 or cat3 spartan 4 might only need augmentation very low adaption maintainance.
I agree. I think adaptations are early and experimental. As time goes one they get used to things and their bodies adapt. So between adapting the bodies over time and the augmentations get tweaked over time, they will need less overwatch.
@@brockwilkie6022 exactly. Spartan 2's and 3's needed no such overwatch, as there were more biological strong beforehand and were not fully grown. A cat 2 s4 that entered relatively young might not need maintainance too
going to second this, but definitely after a Spartan augmentation combo video where we see which ones can be thrown together from different generations and guesses as to the results lol
Sorry for being rude. It was not my intention. What I meant is that some people would not catch small stuff like that. I know i didn't untill it was pointed out. Sorry for sounding rude.
Each time I watch your most detailed breakdown of Spartans I get more and more envious, jealous, and resentful that there is no way for me to achieve the heights that a spartan can.
In all fairness, you're odds of being accepted into the Spartan IV's would be pretty slim, so your odds wouldn't be much better if you were in Halo. Also, you would've had to survive the Human-Covenant War...
27:18 Okay, I noticed an error :( Telomerase is the enzyme that extends the telomeres in existing cells, mostly gametes, and isn't really active much, if at all in non-cancerous somatic cells. Its the *telomeres* that are slowly eroded after each copying, not the telomerase. Telomere = DNA sequence at the 3' ends of your chromosomes that is there because each copy can't copy the whole thing, and is basically there to protect against copy degradation. Telomerase = enzyme that extends the telomere. Massive difference. Also, the chromosome with 4 red areas as "telomeres" is just wrong, as there are only two ends to the chromosome, which is where the telomeres are, which you should've noticed that given it wasn't like that in the original image.
@@thatoneguy9291 SIVs shouldn't have been called Spartans imo. The whole idea behind that particular name is that they've been training since childhood. Call them Hoplites if you want to keep the Greek inspiration, but they're not Spartans in a traditional sense.
Ian no that’s not the idea. They weren’t intended to be kidnapped children, it was required though. It’s not their whole point it’s CIRCUMSTANCE. The ORIONS aren’t called Spartans because they failed. Spartans are called Spartans because they are a successful super soldier branch that continues to succeed. Changing their name because 343 went back to the original concept of Spartans is insanely stupid and pointless just to appease fans.
@@thatoneguy9291 Not only that look at it at a lore stand point, imagine growing up, hearing that ONI released footage of Spartan-II's, figures, posters, progaganda to keep moral going, you join up, survive and you get asked to be a SPARTAN. It's pretty much "Be a hero!", in comics it's "Join the Justice League" or "Join the avengers!". Who in their right mind would turn down being a Spartan? (Apart from Buck the first time).
I like to believe every Ancient Human was like a Spartan-II, if the Forerunnet at least didn't devolve us the Covenant would had a very, very hard time against an entire army of Demons.
Ancient humans are far superior to spartan 2s. The only reason we got wiped out back then was cause the forerunners were having a temper tantrum that the persecurors choose us over them. They then made things even worse by attacking and killing them and making the grounds for the flood to come into existence
@@quinn8599 I'mean, "average" Ancient Human was like a Spartan-II, I can imagine them having their own super soldiers to fight against Warrior Servants in equal term.
@@alexisbaz8746 their below average guy was probably spartan 2 guy. Like ancient humanity was fucking craaazy. If we were being chosen to take the mantle of leaders of the universe we had to have been packing some SERIOUS heat. Fucl the ancient forerunners-
@@quinn8599 Considering Arcaeo-Hominae held the Forerunners on a planet with no hope of winning for several decades on Charum Hakkor, I'm pretty sure a Spartan-II would be seen as an invalid to even the average civilian of the Ancient Human Empire.
I love this video. After watching all three, the Spartan 4s are actually more interesting in their augmentations because of the advancements made overtime. While the power factor in others are way cooler and interesting, as is the other augmentations nuerally and physically, these are smaller and more advanced and less noticeable yet very interesting
So the Spartan 4s are built to fight and survive but not to last under the normal sense of the human existence. My observation is this; the problem with every machine is that they inevitably breakdown. All these augments must have a use life, yet the high level of integration and the cost of up keep would suggest that that post war life is non existent. This is in every way a lifetime commitment. There is effectively no way to separate the man/woman from the machine once the process has started. The excerpt about how the Infinity has a whole deck deticated to just Spartans proves the monitary and industrial commitment to this project. Think about 3.75 miles of space just for just Spartans medical, housing, workout and their gear storage. These volunteers will never go home again and if the do they will die a slow and painful death once the augments break down occurs.
i know they are supposed to be less powerful but wow, that is some serious augmentations. Waiting for the augmentation combo video now! Thank you so much for these.
The "less powerful" stuff was a blatantly a later retcon IMO. There was no mention of it anywhere in the initial lore about S-IV and it only started creeping in, in some of the later crap. Frankly, the augmentations as actually described are more invasive, extensive, and far reaching then ANYTHING described on the S-IIs. Without the stupid authorial fiat that the S-IIs must be the most specialist of snowflakes despite being nearly 40 year old "technology" now, by any sane and reasoned accounting of the acutal described augmentations of both the S-IVs are drastically more advanced with a much wider ranged of augmented capabilities. About the only area you could kind of buy the S-II being better is raw physical strength, since the use of still growing subjects seems to have resulted in somewhat larger stature on average. But this idea that the S-IV are generally just worse then S-II is simply dumb and completely at odds with the acutal laundary list of of augmentations described for them that the S-IIs have absolutely no confirmed equivalence for.
@@Tk3997 I mean it’s pretty self explanatory buck even said it himself they aren’t as powerful as the 2s and 3s which is a fact idk why you so upset he stating a fact the other stuff you said was based on opinions
@@djcuevas1057 What kind of Combat skins did these warriors wear? I heard the highest level of Combat skins were level 18. I guess they wear something like that.
I’d assume they had the highest level of Combat skins, if we went by 343 guilty sparks rating in Halo: The Flood. I’d also assume that the warrior-servants of the Forerunners were much stronger. If you went off the strength of the Didact. It’s mentioned in the forerunner trilogy that he is not the strongest, nor the fastest. If that’s the case, they’re much stronger indeed.
@@Seraphim_Belisarius Makes you wonder how strong they were if Spark's compares MJOLNIR to a level II combat skin then imagine what level 18 or any unofficial experimental armor the Forerunners were developing could do in feats of strength.
@@thorshammer7883 well those Warrior servants would be at least having thousands of years experience in fighting and would have more ability what even a Spartan could barely imagine of, and the didact was about millions years old that makes him literally close to immortality, a Spartan in that case are highly inferior and only have decades of experience against thousands of years battle experience, and I heard they were able to make super dense materials which are thousands or millions or I don't know billion times durable than steel...so you know what kind of Warrior servants we are taking about........
9:36 It is stated in the spartan field manual on page 25 in regards to the skeletal reengineering series that aside from the skeletal fullerene lattice, titanium-A and composite sheathing is also employed to strengthen the spartan 4's bones.
The cellular immortality aspect would mostly negate his age being a factor since the effects of aging wouldn't force him to retire when a normal person would so his training and experience probably out weighs the age issue due to how much less likely he is to die.
Not to mention, chief hasn't fallen more than once unconscious other than Halo 3, He fell through the atmosphere of requiem after get torn away from the dawn, though he did have ship parts to break his fall somewhat at the start, shortly after he was knocked unconscious and there for wouldn't able to maintain control in flight. Safe to say a spartan can fall a pretty good amount of distance even it's from space straight to the surface of a planet.
I suspect that Spartan-IVs were made so 'maintenance intensive' was so they could be more easily controlled by UNSC. Since Spartans were originally created to keep the "peasants in line". The 'Leadership' of UNSC apparently is rather paranoid, and seeks to ensure they could control their soldiers; so all they have to do is withhold maintenance, and the Spartan-IV will inevitably keel over dead...
Jeez, I did my PhD in axonal development, but it’s been years since I did that work. This video was a solid yet unexpected refresher 😂 Well done on doing your homework on the science here
When 2020 is over and I become Canada's Apocalyptic Supreme Warlord, I will offer you the Minister of Science position in my cabinet. Comes with a Northern test area and a tropical vacation paradise.
@@biglenin7306 most of northern Canada will become tropical and be renamed CariboCanada. Moose will also double in size, beavers will become Carnivorous and be more closely related to Panthers. I will be riding a battle moose into war and have 4 combat beavers trained in close protection and assassination.
No joke, I legit have a guy who would sign up for a Spartan program... he'd go renegade five seconds later and run back to the US, but at least you'd know the process works.
I sat down 2 minutes ago and somehow this video is already over? I don’t know how you do it but you somehow make 40 minutes feel like no time at all, you should be a teacher if you’re not already
@@Installation00 oh I wholeheartedly agree. There is a bunch of overlap between those franchises with respect to the augmentation of human bodies, just with Deus Ex focusing a lot heavier on it. I was just memeing a dialogue bit from Human Revolution
All this augumentations and they could field over one hundred spartans in 3 years? That is kinda weird consider the time a Person would need to adapt and accept to these heavy augumentations and the changes to their body.
I always was curious on why ONI doesn't simply clone new Spartans to suit their needs. If I understand correctly, flash cloning was incredible unreliable which lead them to abducting children in the first place. Do you think now that Cortana is linked to the domain that she could create cloned soldiers for her army?
@@brockwilkie6022 And thus the regimentation of said pills; same way tier one operatives and deep cover agents in intelligence get the posh yet regimented R&R and debriefing sessions after they complete their operations, have the absolute best but for the love of god find a means to put them on a hardened leash else they find they want to do what you don't want to and give you the bird once they decide they don't want to be beholden to you anymore...
Has there been any genetic adaptions to the general populous of humanity making the baseline human more effective in combat than modern day humans? Obviously you cant reasonably genetically adapt a species to have carbon-diamond-titanium tube bones but maybe making adaptions to red blood cell coubt or muscle fibre density? That would make sense to covertly adapt the population so that the people who enlist in the military can hit harder on average than we can today.
Damn cool detailed video it also makes me wonder if we'll learn more about the mutation that the vhief received from the librarian in halo 4 during halo infinite as theres no further mention during the rest of halo 4 or 5 so im curios what exactly do you think happened in terms of his physical capabilities
Rewatching this video, because I LOVE the content and explanation of the real life aspect of the lore. I came to a bit of a realization: Spartan 4s are what Spartans would be like, both in terms of augmentation and need of a whole industry of support, had they been made in the current century, and not the time of Halo (I forgot the exact time setting). With how our current military and military industrial complex are set up now, the Spartan 4's heavily reflect that. Whereas, the Spartan 2s and 3s reflect the autonomous super soldier that would be made in the future, and needed in a war against the overwhelming numbers of the Covenant. Just a bit of thought
I think one topic people usually don't focus over is the "side effects". Just like the side effects our normal medicines may or may not have. As such, the general view among the fandom regarding the Spartan II's "reduced sex drive" is over exaggerated in my opinion. Some may DEFINITELY have those side effects, but it most likely doesn't translate to every single Spartan- II in my opinion. The Catalytic Thyroid Implant's risk is mentioned as "Rare instances of Elephantiasis- Suppressed Sexual Drive" which clearly suggests that this is a rare risk, much like the risk of bone privatisation due to skeletal enhancements.
So i have a couple points, where i think there may be missing lore, and i wanted to bounce a couple thoughts off of you. Firstly comes the lengthening of the bones. Bucks in armor height is approx 6'10, with the armor adding about 3 or 4 inches in height. So buck went from 6'2 to about 6'5/6'6. Surgical distraction osteogenesis seems a bit of an intensive procedure to grow only a few inches. (and wouldn't that leave said Spartan IVs with some rather unusual proportions unless they altered virtually every bone in the body?). Do you think it would be more/less likely that the growth would be induced chemically? Such as by repopulating the cartilage in the epiphysial plate, then using growth hormone to induce a final growth spurt. It seems to me a much less invasive procedure and more likely justifiable on a risk/reward basis, given the only modest height increase of S-IV candidates. My 2nd and final question refers to a piece of lore added in the official spartan field manual. It states (from memory) that candidates muscles are woven through with synthetic fibres, using similar if not the same technology used in MJOLNIR's polymuscle layer. Additionally Spartan Palmer her muscles were coated with a synthetic compound that granted her her enhanced strength. Do you think the aforementioned methods could be what the lore actually referred to in terms of muscle grafting? Just wanted to get your thoughts on those two theories as the former has bugged me for quite some time, the lore on project ORCHID can be somewhat contradictory at times
I wish a lot of people would get off the anti-S-IV train and just take the program for what it is: the original goal of the Orion Project. I always maintain to this day that the only real issue with them is their writing, seeing as how it is rare that people accurately depict the military and how it and it's people actually works any way. They just wanted to depict S-IVs as more human in their personalities, but rather came off as being too immature and unprofessional to ever actually achieve their title and status by even real world standards. Yes. The S-IIs are the most successful generation. But, there is absolutely no need to have this fixation willing kidnapping and producing child soldiers.
In all fairness, they did fix the professionalism problem with Osiris, they just forgot to add any personality in its place. Crimson, the team you play as in Spartan Ops, is also pretty good, since they're constantly fixing Majestic's screw ups. What idiot thought the name Majestic was a good idea anyway?
On the matter for Spartans "being our destiny", the reason we humans write aliens and monsters to be stronger than us, is because deep down we want to be weak, we want to be the underdog, we want to be human and make the most of what we have. That's what make Halo feel like a real fight for survival, and what made Master Chief special. If everyone is super nobody is.
@@TheGeechman but there's enhancements that the IVs have that are brand new and werent given to the IIs originally like the lungs, heart and gut stuff. I wondering if they eventually got that.
@@dasovietunion3370 probably not, remember its really really hard to try and tamper or "improve" on the generation 2 spartans because they are already at their peak, the most i could ever see them getting from the 4s superior biology arsenal of medical stuff is having their organs being able to be grown again and replace the previous one if need be
@@noneurbisness6521 well the forerunners battle suit was far advanced than the suit used by Ancient humans according to the knowledge we have about them, but the ancient humans fighting weapons and fighting ability was better than forerunners.
Just a thought i have, xenomorphs as well can survive space, possibly longer than spartan foura can, but the question is for how long. Also, does their lung tissue allow them a similar mechanic?
Something I've realized is that if you think about it, you as in you yourself, your personality, your thoughts, just you, has been in the Halo universe several times. Like even though Noble six has some locked in background besides that he's literally just supposed to be you, and whoever your Halo infinite Spartan is they're just supposed to be you too they're made for you to change their armor, change their voice, make their background, change their name, so that they're more of a vessel for you the player to inhabit.
One thing you haven't mentioned but could be added as a side note, is the enhancement with synthesis progestative or hormonal implants to prevent female soldier to suffer their periods. (What real life female soldiers perform as self medication in combat theaters as of today)
I imagine some of the spartan IVs augmentations would be rejected by their bodies to a degree were they not to receive medical maintenance after a certain amount of time which is interesting ethically and strategically, you're creating soldiers that rely on highly specialised maintenance that may not always be available.
I know this vid is a couple years old and Infinite wasn't out yet, but since the spartan 4s,"...need constant 'tune-ups' to ensure nothing goes wrong with their bodies," (Quoting the wiki on 4s augs)Then how is spartan Dinh capable of,"... surviving for long periods alone in the field..."? Quoting the wiki page on the character.
to correct this tho because of the genetic markers and the requirement age of 6, the spartans 2s werent augmented after they went through the earlier first route procedures, they do maintenance checks but no longer augmentations, everything else in halseys book was tested on the spartan 3s because they were more or less expendable
How long can a Spartan IV candidate become an actual spartan ready for active duty? Considering the multiple augmentation procedures, stages of healing, additional modifications again healing from these modifications then training and re-orienting with their new bodies and armor.
I’ve been reading all the halo books in chronological order. Currently, I’m at the end of the Kilo-Five trilogy, Halo: Mortal Dictata. Spartan IV’s have been mentioned, but their augmentations, not so much. Is there a future book that goes in depth about it?
Didn't they do the adrenal gland augmentation to the Spartan 3s that had to have an offsetting augmentation to regulate their behavior? Been a minute since I've read about them.
I have had multiple limps ripped off, surgically taken off and most times reattached. Stayed conscience through worst parts. Died multiple times separate settings of course. Full retrograde amnesia. Then got it back later, Bleed outs. Full antibiotic-resistant staph. I even had to do my own medical research and save my own leg from infection. Doctor's already gave up and started sharpening there knives. Was a great feeling giving the Crux to the world when the doctors admitted I was going to keep my leg now after I repaired it. An the look of shame on there face that a collage student did what they said wasn't possible. I enjoy a active lifestyle. None military but not void of combat either. I think I was built for augmentation and would get a lot of mileage out of it. Well technically I'm already augmented with all the titanium reinforcing sections of my bone structure.
Well you initially made one incorrect statement Spartan twos were kidnapped Spartan threes for volunteer refugee children from destroyed worlds that the Covenant had glassed or attacked
ill be real with you, if i ever undergo the spartan 4 procedure, ill opt for the spartan 2 procedure also after all its only a 60% fail rate which means theres a 40% chance of survival, spartan 4s live longer than 2s?
Most detailed on the prophet chair would be cool
At first i thought you were joking but the more i think about this the more i want it
I agree 100%
A detailed breakdown will be considered heresy
I would like to know how many cupholders it has
Yes please
Note that in Halo Infinite, the Spartan IVs on the ring's surface were fighting for six months with zero (known--none of them mentioned anything about wayward augments in the logs) augmentation issues. Either it proves the augmentations' stability, or the checkups were being used as an invisible leash to keep the IVs in hand.
Maybe on the Mortal Reverie there was a medic room,is not tell in the audiolog so you can have right.
I can absolutely see that. Keeps their soldiers from going AWOL or switching sides.
I believe that you are right about all the maintenance being a "leash measure."
But, I'd also like to add a thought of that, all the maintenance and such (the whole host of support roles and needs and such) was a clever bid by lobbyists and other people wanting a renewal of the military industrial complex. The way installation 00 describes it in the beginning of the video, it's a lot like how our (US military) current military industrial complex operates so that we have $300 hammers.
Or maybe it's just that each individual author that 343 hires to write their books just can't keep up with the deluge of other bits and parts of lore that come from other authors and stories and such, so they forget important things frequently.
That would make sense because the IVs aren’t indoctrinated children
Could it be possible that Spartan IVs are so maintenance heavy (medical scans, etc) not because they need it, but as a way to keep them under control? After all, ONI seems pretty worried about the possibility of rogue Spartans- making the IVs think they need all those resources would be a good way to keep them loyal.
Definitely an interesting idea, though there may not be much evidence either way (I don't recall the possibility ever even being mentioned, so I must point out that such evidence might just not exist)
Its all about controll bud. The gov does this kinda shit today
I'd imagine its a mixture of both. Like, it's very possible that ONI intentionally designed the augmentations to require regular medical maintenance, etc, to keep them loyal rather than just rely on the impression its needed
I think the maintenance is more for optimization of performance. It's not that they NEED the maintenance, but the complexity of their equipment and implants means they need a team of specialists to keep it all in top condition. It's also possible that all the extra medical exams and reviews are to monitor and optimize their performance, and would have been included on the Spartan II's and Spartan III's if not for the desperate situation of the Human-Covenant War. Now that the UNSC has the resources and manpower, they can afford to spare no expense in keeping their super soldiers in tip top shape.
The thing is that a lot of Spartan 4s were UNSC troops so they were already loyal
The Spartan IIs are undoubtedly awesome I'll always have a soft spot for the spartan IIIs, unlike the 2s and 4s the 3s were made to be expendable, performing some of the most dangerous and consequently most critical missions without the technological advantages of the other classes. Thrown in handfuls at the breach in the hopes that they could slow down the March of the covenant. They are the unsung heroes of the human covenant war in my opinion and we will never know most of their names or the sacrifices they made to give humanity a chance to stumble to its feet and fight back
Yeah. I would love to see spartan 3s come back but with new Mjolnir tech, and be like a smaller more elite special forces/black ops unit that does more high value or critical missions than the spartan IVs
Same here, the IIIs were always my favorite Spartan Generation for that reason.
a group of em couldn't even be killed by ground forces in open ground and had to be kill with naval weapons....such badasses
The only shortcoming of the spartan III program was the armour they were given since a suit of mjolnir was the same price as a UNSC frigate. Still they were excellent Spartans who did more with less.
@@thespikeheadboy3164 And just look at the few that were given Mjolnir. They had combat records on par with the IIs.
Am I the only person who after hearing this at 25:33 thought...
- "All remaining nutrients are now ready for remote activation."
- "Remote activation? From here?"
- "Don't be ridiculous..."
- "Listen Tinker Bell... Don't make me..."
On the day that everyone becomes a Spartan is the day when UNSC starts looking for ways to make Olympians, nd on the day everyone becomes an Olympian is the day the UNSC starts making Titans, and then from Titans to Primordials (no, not like that one).
Spartans shouldn't humanity's end point. They should be the springboard to something even stronger.
pretty sure humanity will reach forerunner levels of bio-engineering one day
Primarchs lmao
@@demonickiller6315 Magnus did nothing wrong
That is what Halsey said about the II-series. They were the next step in humanity's evolution.
Your level of depth into the minutia and clearly techno-jargon is brilliant. Nylund who made all this underpinning has a Masters in Chemical Physics.
In my opinion, I'd say the Spartan IVs are the pinnacle of the Spartan Generations. They have saved millions of people during wars againts the remnants of The Covenant, the Promethean forces and even the newly introduced Banished forces. They have the best tech integrated into their armor as well as reasonable and fitting augmentations. People might not like my decision, I enjoy the Spartan IVs for what they've become. Even Fireteam Osiris are pretty badass.
The best comment I've seen so far
People who get hung up on the S-IVs' shortcomings relative to past generations are missing the point: S-IVs are logistically easier to work with, can be fielded in much greater numbers while still remaining _very_ formidable at the individual and the squad level, and they may well form the basis for vastly superior future generations who might be far more comparable to their direct predecessors. Barring some mistakes made in psychologically profiling and security-screening certain S-IVs, I view Project ORCHID as a huge step forward, and a promising look into the future of the UNSC armed forces and eventually, perhaps even humanity's physical evolution.
Plus, with postwar manpower shortages and population decline, there's no way for ONI to get away with child-napping shenanigans again so all they have to work with is adults for the foreseeable future.
Honestly the community gets so entrenched in the "but muh spartan II's!" mindset that they miss the bigger picture with the 4's. A spartan II can only be made with 1 out of a billion people, whereas a iv even with less power than a II can be made from just about anyone. This makes them superior strategic tools, as they can be deployed on mass to affect a battlefield whereas a II, while impressive will always have limited impact upon a battlefield due to the sheer scope any real scale war theater would encompass. The IV's and II's can be compared to the Germany versus France tank roles early in WWII. While France's tanks were technically superior in most regards to the Germans, the Germans numerical superiority and doctrine allowed them to overrun the superior French designs and crush the French early in the war. The same thing happened during the end of the war with Germany producing high complexity, heavy importance tanks like the Tiger and Tiger II while the Soviets went with large numbers of good enough T-34s. Hell, this can even be seen in Halo reach, as although Noble team was amazing, there simply wasn't enough of them to actually turn the tide, and Reach fell all the same. While a II may be superior in a 1v1 to a IV, any decent commander will ensure that they aren't fighting a 1v1 but at least a 3v1 if not more. So at the end of the day, I would argue for the UNSC as a whole, the IVs will be a superior tool for waging a real war should the need ever occur.
Precisely. Logistics win wars ultimately and the S-IV are a solid step in that direction. Looking long term In the far future I'd want my lowest average human soldier to be the level of the S-IV's. Humanities armies suddenly become extremely formidable, the closest to our Ancient Human ancestors.
.....Huh... There’s still hope for Humanity after all..
I wish 343 would just stop listening to the dumbass fanboys when it comes to story\lore. These stupid fanboys are fine replaying the same game and story they've played decade ago
#Installation00
I think the limited nature of Spartan IV - their regular need for medical examination and far more care than previous Spartans - was a deliberate move by ONI.
They learned from their experiences with Daisy, Soren 066 and ILSA Zane.
They wanted supersoldiers on leash, not Supersoldiers who might follow their conscience and try to fight ONI.
What do you think??
Could be! ONI has done far worse before.......
This...
Makes a lot of sense and it scares me....
Dude.. i need you to go sit and stay away from the fandom.. before you scare us all...
Basically Mickey from ODST, rogue Spartan IV that joined the rebel
@@quinn8599 Eh, nothing is as scary after reading 1984 years before I probably should have. Go read it. It will haunt you for the rest of your life and you won't be scared of such tame (and logical) theories ^^.
Listening to this as I work on schoolwork.
:) Smokeyranger aswell
Chemistry specifically XD
Been watching you for a long time and I swear I thought I was subbed , but I wasn’t... but I fixed the heresy!
I can see the meta stability of the S4's augmentations being an intentional bug on behalf of ONI to ensure that spartan deserters don't become a thorn in the UNSC by limiting their operational utility outside of the UNSC without their support.
These alterations seem oddly similar to the Space marine creation in the Warhammer 40k universe. Both are way cool. It's just fascinating to see that cybernetics are a staple of top tier science fiction soldiers.
I love Warhammer but a majority of enhancements just feel like "much geneseed". Halo is a bit more grounded in science.
Anyone wanting to be a real Spartan should start working out now and training to the level of a Navy SEAL.
Every Spartan candidate including John-117 had to workout to be ready to receive their augmentations.
Couch potatoes need not apply. 🤣
Running twice a day, working out with my Special Forces buddy.
IRL They'll just send you off to die for no reason. Or use you as a disposable lab rat.
In the Halo Universe the Spartans are literally fighting against a genocidal enemy for their own survival and that of humanity.
Unless we face a military enemy that runs the risk of causing our extinction, there will never be super soldiers anywhere near the level of spartans.
The military doesnt even give our current soldiers the best gear and armor they could. Its a cost/quality balance.
Take into account 1 navy seal costs about $500,000 dollars to just to train.
@Cooper Webb If you live in a country with politicians, you're already a tool for them. Everyone is a tool for something, whether they admit it or not.
And this is meant to be the "more humane" version of making a Spartan.
I enjoy these breakdowns. Learn so much that I didn't know
Same
Spartan-III’s will always be my favorite. The perfect balance between 2’s and 4’s. They also went into combat scenarios that had practically zero percent survivability but went in guns blazing
Indeed the middle child of the halo spartan family.
Generally speaking: seem the only REAL flaw with the Spartan IVs is their high maintenance requirements. They fix that issue and they'd be as versatile are the previous generations. Probably be the Spartan Vs.
Sometimes you Wana make sure your soldiers aren't given too long a leash, especially somthing like the Spartans, you wouldn't want them to get ideas about not needing the rest of us
Nothing some WD-40 can't fix.
@@nickburton9366 yep, otherwise you get rogue soldiers like Mickey, originally in Buck's ODST Squad, Alpha-Nine that defected to the rebels after becoming a Spartan IV
@@Vonmoonlight Say what? You're gonna have to fill me in on this, or link me to a source that does. This news to me.
@@retroicdescent it is in the New Blood and Bad Blood novels.
I think its possible that the spartan 2's and 3's might have received the s4 augments they are effectively missing.
I also think that the s4's gradualy adapt to their augmentations too, making maintainance less and less necessary over time and slowly increading the spartans capabilities too, maybe even closing the s2 to s4 gap after a few decades, if the s4 has a cat2 genome.
The maintainance would only be necessary because of the late augmentation date based long adaptation time (likely many years) and to always have peek fighting capabilities , but not for augmentation retention (i bet the s2 have a similar maintanance program for fitness. Spartans are considered army property, so maintainance is the used word).
A cat2 or cat3 spartan 4 might only need augmentation very low adaption maintainance.
I agree. I think adaptations are early and experimental. As time goes one they get used to things and their bodies adapt. So between adapting the bodies over time and the augmentations get tweaked over time, they will need less overwatch.
@@brockwilkie6022 exactly. Spartan 2's and 3's needed no such overwatch, as there were more biological strong beforehand and were not fully grown. A cat 2 s4 that entered relatively young might not need maintainance too
You should made a video about what augmentations outside of the halo universe you would add to any of the Spartans. If you’ve ever thought if that.
going to second this, but definitely after a Spartan augmentation combo video where we see which ones can be thrown together from different generations and guesses as to the results lol
11:41 Steel is not an element. It is an alloy of iron with a hodgepodge of other stuff depending on the exact steel you want.
Oh be quiet you smartypants. Some people would honestly not even know the difference
@@logankenworthy4457 I knew the difference! 😁
They teach that in school tho
Sorry for being rude. It was not my intention. What I meant is that some people would not catch small stuff like that. I know i didn't untill it was pointed out. Sorry for sounding rude.
@@logankenworthy4457 so why dont you shut up? I appreciate the new information. If you don't wanna know it then just forget it.
Each time I watch your most detailed breakdown of Spartans I get more and more envious, jealous, and resentful that there is no way for me to achieve the heights that a spartan can.
In all fairness, you're odds of being accepted into the Spartan IV's would be pretty slim, so your odds wouldn't be much better if you were in Halo. Also, you would've had to survive the Human-Covenant War...
That’s what makes them special tho, you know they’re supposed to be beyond natural capabilities so no shame
Finally been waiting for this one
Love how they fight all fast in opening but they move like a turtle in the fight with Locke and MC
These are great while I'm at my machining job, I hope we can get the Mandalorian one of these days
27:18 Okay, I noticed an error :(
Telomerase is the enzyme that extends the telomeres in existing cells, mostly gametes, and isn't really active much, if at all in non-cancerous somatic cells. Its the *telomeres* that are slowly eroded after each copying, not the telomerase.
Telomere = DNA sequence at the 3' ends of your chromosomes that is there because each copy can't copy the whole thing, and is basically there to protect against copy degradation.
Telomerase = enzyme that extends the telomere.
Massive difference. Also, the chromosome with 4 red areas as "telomeres" is just wrong, as there are only two ends to the chromosome, which is where the telomeres are, which you should've noticed that given it wasn't like that in the original image.
What about the changes that the Librarian made to Master Chief in Halo 4?
They have already done tests in utilizing graphene to strengthen bone support instead of the more currently used titanium with great success.
Ooh boy I can already tell this vid is going to start a war in the comment section.
SIV’s are good on paper, 343 was bad at representing them
@@thatoneguy9291 SIVs shouldn't have been called Spartans imo. The whole idea behind that particular name is that they've been training since childhood.
Call them Hoplites if you want to keep the Greek inspiration, but they're not Spartans in a traditional sense.
Ian no that’s not the idea. They weren’t intended to be kidnapped children, it was required though. It’s not their whole point it’s CIRCUMSTANCE. The ORIONS aren’t called Spartans because they failed. Spartans are called Spartans because they are a successful super soldier branch that continues to succeed. Changing their name because 343 went back to the original concept of Spartans is insanely stupid and pointless just to appease fans.
@@thatoneguy9291 Not only that look at it at a lore stand point, imagine growing up, hearing that ONI released footage of Spartan-II's, figures, posters, progaganda to keep moral going, you join up, survive and you get asked to be a SPARTAN. It's pretty much "Be a hero!", in comics it's "Join the Justice League" or "Join the avengers!". Who in their right mind would turn down being a Spartan? (Apart from Buck the first time).
Crimson Knyght exactly
I like to believe every Ancient Human was like a Spartan-II, if the Forerunnet at least didn't devolve us the Covenant would had a very, very hard time against an entire army of Demons.
Ancient humans are far superior to spartan 2s. The only reason we got wiped out back then was cause the forerunners were having a temper tantrum that the persecurors choose us over them. They then made things even worse by attacking and killing them and making the grounds for the flood to come into existence
@@quinn8599 I'mean, "average" Ancient Human was like a Spartan-II, I can imagine them having their own super soldiers to fight against Warrior Servants in equal term.
@@alexisbaz8746 their below average guy was probably spartan 2 guy. Like ancient humanity was fucking craaazy. If we were being chosen to take the mantle of leaders of the universe we had to have been packing some SERIOUS heat. Fucl the ancient forerunners-
@@quinn8599 Considering Arcaeo-Hominae held the Forerunners on a planet with no hope of winning for several decades on Charum Hakkor, I'm pretty sure a Spartan-II would be seen as an invalid to even the average civilian of the Ancient Human Empire.
I love this video. After watching all three, the Spartan 4s are actually more interesting in their augmentations because of the advancements made overtime. While the power factor in others are way cooler and interesting, as is the other augmentations nuerally and physically, these are smaller and more advanced and less noticeable yet very interesting
So the Spartan 4s are built to fight and survive but not to last under the normal sense of the human existence. My observation is this; the problem with every machine is that they inevitably breakdown. All these augments must have a use life, yet the high level of integration and the cost of up keep would suggest that that post war life is non existent. This is in every way a lifetime commitment. There is effectively no way to separate the man/woman from the machine once the process has started. The excerpt about how the Infinity has a whole deck deticated to just Spartans proves the monitary and industrial commitment to this project. Think about 3.75 miles of space just for just Spartans medical, housing, workout and their gear storage. These volunteers will never go home again and if the do they will die a slow and painful death once the augments break down occurs.
Yeah, I'd rather just be an marine or ODST even if offered to become a spartan. These augmentations seem kinda scary in a way
i know they are supposed to be less powerful but wow, that is some serious augmentations. Waiting for the augmentation combo video now! Thank you so much for these.
Makes me wonder how on earth the older inductees survived them
The "less powerful" stuff was a blatantly a later retcon IMO. There was no mention of it anywhere in the initial lore about S-IV and it only started creeping in, in some of the later crap.
Frankly, the augmentations as actually described are more invasive, extensive, and far reaching then ANYTHING described on the S-IIs. Without the stupid authorial fiat that the S-IIs must be the most specialist of snowflakes despite being nearly 40 year old "technology" now, by any sane and reasoned accounting of the acutal described augmentations of both the S-IVs are drastically more advanced with a much wider ranged of augmented capabilities. About the only area you could kind of buy the S-II being better is raw physical strength, since the use of still growing subjects seems to have resulted in somewhat larger stature on average.
But this idea that the S-IV are generally just worse then S-II is simply dumb and completely at odds with the acutal laundary list of of augmentations described for them that the S-IIs have absolutely no confirmed equivalence for.
@@Tk3997 I mean it’s pretty self explanatory buck even said it himself they aren’t as powerful as the 2s and 3s which is a fact idk why you so upset he stating a fact the other stuff you said was based on opinions
The opening scene of the Spartans doing their dirty work I think is the most badass scene of all time!
What are the Forerunners' equivalent of super soldiers like the UNSC's Spartans and how strong were they and what level of Combat skins did they wear?
Thor's Hammer Prometheans would be the forerunner equivalent. Warrior servants and various sentinels would be the common soldiers.
@@djcuevas1057
What kind of Combat skins did these warriors wear? I heard the highest level of Combat skins were level 18. I guess they wear something like that.
I’d assume they had the highest level of
Combat skins, if we went by 343 guilty sparks rating in Halo: The Flood. I’d also assume that the warrior-servants of the Forerunners were much stronger. If you went off the strength of the Didact. It’s mentioned in the forerunner trilogy that he is not the strongest, nor the fastest. If that’s the case, they’re much stronger indeed.
@@Seraphim_Belisarius
Makes you wonder how strong they were if Spark's compares MJOLNIR to a level II combat skin then imagine what level 18 or any unofficial experimental armor the Forerunners were developing could do in feats of strength.
@@thorshammer7883 well those Warrior servants would be at least having thousands of years experience in fighting and would have more ability what even a Spartan could barely imagine of, and the didact was about millions years old that makes him literally close to immortality, a Spartan in that case are highly inferior and only have decades of experience against thousands of years battle experience, and I heard they were able to make super dense materials which are thousands or millions or I don't know billion times durable than steel...so you know what kind of Warrior servants we are taking about........
"Spartans without armor", imagine a being like that being given the fractal-scaled strength/speed of GEN-1(3?) armor.
Imagine being an Elite?
Now all that’s left is the Orion Candidates’ augmentations.
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I always love your intros and endings
Couldn't think of a better way to spend my evening 👌
that intro really is pretty amazing with the HUD
9:36 It is stated in the spartan field manual on page 25 in regards to the skeletal reengineering series that aside from the skeletal fullerene lattice, titanium-A and composite sheathing is also employed to strengthen the spartan 4's bones.
Never have i enjoyed hearing so much i barely understood until i found this channel
I love your content bro. You’re easily my favorite channel for halo lore.
Buck's upgrade is puzzling because of his age.
Return on investment..
Not hearing much about Spartan Loc in the upcoming game...🤣
The cellular immortality aspect would mostly negate his age being a factor since the effects of aging wouldn't force him to retire when a normal person would so his training and experience probably out weighs the age issue due to how much less likely he is to die.
Been waiting a while for this one
Not to mention, chief hasn't fallen more than once unconscious other than Halo 3, He fell through the atmosphere of requiem after get torn away from the dawn, though he did have ship parts to break his fall somewhat at the start, shortly after he was knocked unconscious and there for wouldn't able to maintain control in flight. Safe to say a spartan can fall a pretty good amount of distance even it's from space straight to the surface of a planet.
Great video bro 👊 you are the man
I suspect that Spartan-IVs were made so 'maintenance intensive' was so they could be more easily controlled by UNSC. Since Spartans were originally created to keep the "peasants in line". The 'Leadership' of UNSC apparently is rather paranoid, and seeks to ensure they could control their soldiers; so all they have to do is withhold maintenance, and the Spartan-IV will inevitably keel over dead...
This is going to be very useful for my fanart and fan stuff! :D
Jeez, I did my PhD in axonal development, but it’s been years since I did that work. This video was a solid yet unexpected refresher 😂
Well done on doing your homework on the science here
When 2020 is over and I become Canada's Apocalyptic Supreme Warlord, I will offer you the Minister of Science position in my cabinet. Comes with a Northern test area and a tropical vacation paradise.
Will all canda become a tropical paradise after the nuclear war raise global temperatures?
@@biglenin7306 most of northern Canada will become tropical and be renamed CariboCanada. Moose will also double in size, beavers will become Carnivorous and be more closely related to Panthers. I will be riding a battle moose into war and have 4 combat beavers trained in close protection and assassination.
No joke, I legit have a guy who would sign up for a Spartan program... he'd go renegade five seconds later and run back to the US, but at least you'd know the process works.
*ive been looking forward to this*
I sat down 2 minutes ago and somehow this video is already over? I don’t know how you do it but you somehow make 40 minutes feel like no time at all, you should be a teacher if you’re not already
Aaaaaaamazing!!! Loved this!!!
the Spartan IVs didnt ask for this...wait... you got Deus Ex in my Halo
I believed it to be somewhat contextually relevant.
@@Installation00 oh I wholeheartedly agree. There is a bunch of overlap between those franchises with respect to the augmentation of human bodies, just with Deus Ex focusing a lot heavier on it. I was just memeing a dialogue bit from Human Revolution
@@Installation00 Ilsa Zane just needs to get laid.
All this augumentations and they could field over one hundred spartans in 3 years? That is kinda weird consider the time a Person would need to adapt and accept to these heavy augumentations and the changes to their body.
Shows how much more advanced UNSC medical technology is. ^^
I always was curious on why ONI doesn't simply clone new Spartans to suit their needs. If I understand correctly, flash cloning was incredible unreliable which lead them to abducting children in the first place. Do you think now that Cortana is linked to the domain that she could create cloned soldiers for her army?
cleared my schedule once I saw the announcement!
I just found this while looking for video game stuff. Now I learned about theoretical material science, neurology, and biophysics.
Thank you for this
I love this channel
The S'-IVs require upkeep and maintenance from the UNSC, I think this is also to keep them from going rogue.
Ever see Bourne movies...they don't actually need those pills anymore..
@@brockwilkie6022 And thus the regimentation of said pills; same way tier one operatives and deep cover agents in intelligence get the posh yet regimented R&R and debriefing sessions after they complete their operations, have the absolute best but for the love of god find a means to put them on a hardened leash else they find they want to do what you don't want to and give you the bird once they decide they don't want to be beholden to you anymore...
Tyvern Overlord right. Even the illusion of belief is enough to maintain control
Hey man big fan and I love the content just wondering if you can please do a most detailed breakdown of the UNSC INFINITY?
Has there been any genetic adaptions to the general populous of humanity making the baseline human more effective in combat than modern day humans? Obviously you cant reasonably genetically adapt a species to have carbon-diamond-titanium tube bones but maybe making adaptions to red blood cell coubt or muscle fibre density? That would make sense to covertly adapt the population so that the people who enlist in the military can hit harder on average than we can today.
Damn cool detailed video it also makes me wonder if we'll learn more about the mutation that the vhief received from the librarian in halo 4 during halo infinite as theres no further mention during the rest of halo 4 or 5 so im curios what exactly do you think happened in terms of his physical capabilities
I love this channel!
is a gen3 video in the raster?
Rewatching this video, because I LOVE the content and explanation of the real life aspect of the lore.
I came to a bit of a realization: Spartan 4s are what Spartans would be like, both in terms of augmentation and need of a whole industry of support, had they been made in the current century, and not the time of Halo (I forgot the exact time setting). With how our current military and military industrial complex are set up now, the Spartan 4's heavily reflect that. Whereas, the Spartan 2s and 3s reflect the autonomous super soldier that would be made in the future, and needed in a war against the overwhelming numbers of the Covenant.
Just a bit of thought
It's weird because last night I rewatched all the augmentation videos and then this pops up :D
I think one topic people usually don't focus over is the "side effects". Just like the side effects our normal medicines may or may not have. As such, the general view among the fandom regarding the Spartan II's "reduced sex drive" is over exaggerated in my opinion. Some may DEFINITELY have those side effects, but it most likely doesn't translate to every single Spartan- II in my opinion.
The Catalytic Thyroid Implant's risk is mentioned as "Rare instances of Elephantiasis- Suppressed Sexual Drive" which clearly suggests that this is a rare risk, much like the risk of bone privatisation due to skeletal enhancements.
for the last part it almost sounds like spartan 4s are gm crops with all the specific fertilisers and pesticides
So i have a couple points, where i think there may be missing lore, and i wanted to bounce a couple thoughts off of you.
Firstly comes the lengthening of the bones. Bucks in armor height is approx 6'10, with the armor adding about 3 or 4 inches in height. So buck went from 6'2 to about 6'5/6'6.
Surgical distraction osteogenesis seems a bit of an intensive procedure to grow only a few inches. (and wouldn't that leave said Spartan IVs with some rather unusual proportions unless they altered virtually every bone in the body?).
Do you think it would be more/less likely that the growth would be induced chemically? Such as by repopulating the cartilage in the epiphysial plate, then using growth hormone to induce a final growth spurt. It seems to me a much less invasive procedure and more likely justifiable on a risk/reward basis, given the only modest height increase of S-IV candidates.
My 2nd and final question refers to a piece of lore added in the official spartan field manual. It states (from memory) that candidates muscles are woven through with synthetic fibres, using similar if not the same technology used in MJOLNIR's polymuscle layer. Additionally Spartan Palmer her muscles were coated with a synthetic compound that granted her her enhanced strength. Do you think the aforementioned methods could be what the lore actually referred to in terms of muscle grafting?
Just wanted to get your thoughts on those two theories as the former has bugged me for quite some time, the lore on project ORCHID can be somewhat contradictory at times
I see you in there Mass Effect 2 cinematic
I wish a lot of people would get off the anti-S-IV train and just take the program for what it is: the original goal of the Orion Project. I always maintain to this day that the only real issue with them is their writing, seeing as how it is rare that people accurately depict the military and how it and it's people actually works any way. They just wanted to depict S-IVs as more human in their personalities, but rather came off as being too immature and unprofessional to ever actually achieve their title and status by even real world standards.
Yes. The S-IIs are the most successful generation. But, there is absolutely no need to have this fixation willing kidnapping and producing child soldiers.
In all fairness, they did fix the professionalism problem with Osiris, they just forgot to add any personality in its place. Crimson, the team you play as in Spartan Ops, is also pretty good, since they're constantly fixing Majestic's screw ups.
What idiot thought the name Majestic was a good idea anyway?
Great video
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8:53 I have seen this cutscene many times, only now do I realize that Spartan just performed a spinebuster on that elite XD
On the matter for Spartans "being our destiny", the reason we humans write aliens and monsters to be stronger than us, is because deep down we want to be weak, we want to be the underdog, we want to be human and make the most of what we have. That's what make Halo feel like a real fight for survival, and what made Master Chief special. If everyone is super nobody is.
Actually the spartan 3 children signed up voluntarily because they were angry at the covenant for destroying their homes and families.
I like how he uses the map of unsc spirit of fire as intro
Im curious if the surviving Spartan IIs and IIIs were given the newer enhancements the IVs got but didn't have originally.
Spartan 2’s are already at peak performance. Only newer armour will benefit them
@@TheGeechman but there's enhancements that the IVs have that are brand new and werent given to the IIs originally like the lungs, heart and gut stuff. I wondering if they eventually got that.
@@dasovietunion3370 probably not, remember its really really hard to try and tamper or "improve" on the generation 2 spartans because they are already at their peak, the most i could ever see them getting from the 4s superior biology arsenal of medical stuff is having their organs being able to be grown again and replace the previous one if need be
Can you do a video on combat skin?
Yeah a video on forerunner suits/armor and life extension would be super cool. And maybe the ancient human equivalent.
Yes i would love to see tha t most detailed breakdown
@@noneurbisness6521 well the forerunners battle suit was far advanced than the suit used by Ancient humans according to the knowledge we have about them, but the ancient humans fighting weapons and fighting ability was better than forerunners.
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Holy H. this stuff sounds awesome, Laso is going to b a cakewalk m sure....
Just a thought i have, xenomorphs as well can survive space, possibly longer than spartan foura can, but the question is for how long. Also, does their lung tissue allow them a similar mechanic?
Something I've realized is that if you think about it, you as in you yourself, your personality, your thoughts, just you, has been in the Halo universe several times. Like even though Noble six has some locked in background besides that he's literally just supposed to be you, and whoever your Halo infinite Spartan is they're just supposed to be you too they're made for you to change their armor, change their voice, make their background, change their name, so that they're more of a vessel for you the player to inhabit.
Does anyone know what the show is that I-00 uses for his videos that has the S-iv's?
One thing you haven't mentioned but could be added as a side note, is the enhancement with synthesis progestative or hormonal implants to prevent female soldier to suffer their periods. (What real life female soldiers perform as self medication in combat theaters as of today)
I imagine some of the spartan IVs augmentations would be rejected by their bodies to a degree were they not to receive medical maintenance after a certain amount of time which is interesting ethically and strategically, you're creating soldiers that rely on highly specialised maintenance that may not always be available.
I know this vid is a couple years old and Infinite wasn't out yet, but since the spartan 4s,"...need constant 'tune-ups' to ensure nothing goes wrong with their bodies," (Quoting the wiki on 4s augs)Then how is spartan Dinh capable of,"... surviving for long periods alone in the field..."? Quoting the wiki page on the character.
to correct this tho because of the genetic markers and the requirement age of 6, the spartans 2s werent augmented after they went through the earlier first route procedures, they do maintenance checks but no longer augmentations, everything else in halseys book was tested on the spartan 3s because they were more or less expendable
How long can a Spartan IV candidate become an actual spartan ready for active duty? Considering the multiple augmentation procedures, stages of healing, additional modifications again healing from these modifications then training and re-orienting with their new bodies and armor.
Well considering that they've already got around a thousand S-IV's ready to go, I'd say it doesn't take long.
The plastic bits on the ends of shoelaces are called aglets
Didn't know that. Thanks 😊
Installation00 there is a Phineas and Ferb episode on it
I’ve been reading all the halo books in chronological order. Currently, I’m at the end of the Kilo-Five trilogy, Halo: Mortal Dictata. Spartan IV’s have been mentioned, but their augmentations, not so much. Is there a future book that goes in depth about it?
Spartan Field Manual mentions them. Also you can read the Halopedia page
That One Guy Thanks, man.
Didn't they do the adrenal gland augmentation to the Spartan 3s that had to have an offsetting augmentation to regulate their behavior? Been a minute since I've read about them.
I have had multiple limps ripped off, surgically taken off and most times reattached. Stayed conscience through worst parts.
Died multiple times separate settings of course. Full retrograde amnesia. Then got it back later, Bleed outs. Full antibiotic-resistant staph.
I even had to do my own medical research and save my own leg from infection. Doctor's already gave up and started sharpening there knives.
Was a great feeling giving the Crux to the world when the doctors admitted I was going to keep my leg now after I repaired it. An the look of shame on there face that a collage student did what they said wasn't possible.
I enjoy a active lifestyle. None military but not void of combat either.
I think I was built for augmentation and would get a lot of mileage out of it.
Well technically I'm already augmented with all the titanium reinforcing sections of my bone structure.
Well you initially made one incorrect statement Spartan twos were kidnapped Spartan threes for volunteer refugee children from destroyed worlds that the Covenant had glassed or attacked
ill be real with you, if i ever undergo the spartan 4 procedure, ill opt for the spartan 2 procedure also after all its only a 60% fail rate which means theres a 40% chance of survival, spartan 4s live longer than 2s?