NEVER Do This with a 22 Long Rifle
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- NEVER Do This with a 22 Long Rifle
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It's too bad that the .22 Win Mag wasn't designed to chamber .22 lr/l/s. That would be an EXTREMELY versatile chambering in a lever-gun. Great for coyotes, even deer up close, on down to squirrel.
Its because doing that would make 22 wmr significantly worse, the reason the 22wmr has a larger case diameter is it doesn't use a heeled bullet like 22lr so it has better designed bullets with real jackets and better BCs
Ok, so I had to listen to this clip a few times and from what I gather you CAN shoot the 22lr out of a 22wm rifle though you CANNOT shoot a 22wm out of a 22lr rifle. Though personally I would never shoot anything out of a firearm that it was not designed/intended to shoot.
I have shot both 22 longs and long rifles through a Winchester 9422 with no problems. The only hitch is the lead bullet needs a little lever jiggle to chamber the shorter round. Be sure to run a round or two of mags at the end if the day. Not recommended but in a pinch (which I was in), mine worked ok. I wouldn't try it in a pistol.
@@robertnewport8288
You cannot fire a .22 magnum out of a 9422. The round won't even chamber. Maybe your rifle is the 9422M...?
@@ronbloomberg I'm sorry, I left the M off the 9422. Thank you Ron. Yes it was a 9422M shooting .22 longs and long rifles.
This is crazy ironic considering I had a 10 minute internal conflict at the range yesterday debating whether I should try this or not luckily I didn’t
I’ve done it multiple times, nothing bad happened
A bad idea. Purely for the fact that the 22wmr projectile is .224 in diameter and the .22lr is smaller. You would be shooting a smaller diameter projectile through the bore of the magnum. This can damage your barrel and it will end up bulging the barrel.
I lent a win 9422M to a friend and he shot 22lr through it and it bulged the barrel. End result I had to get it rebarreled.
Don't do it.
@@hughroughley3363Wow, I didn't know this could happen. I know firing a shotgun with snow partly clogging the barrel can expand the barrel, (12 year old me found this out). l Didn't know firing a .224 bullet in a more powerful caliber .224 diameter barrel would cause expansion. Ruger and other companies make interchangeable cylinders for revolvers. Ruger Single Six is one such revolver I have owned. Shot .22 lr change cylinder and shot 22 Winchester Mag cartridges. Great little plinkers or for fishing trips for snakes and such.
@@hughroughley3363o what more then likely happen had less to do them bullet diameter then pressure he probably was running 22lr with lower velocity had one Squib the barrel then shot again. The extra room for case expansion and length of the chamber creates lower pressure when try to shoot a 22lr out of a 22wm chamber.
@hughroughley3363 i dont believe it
I remember my father in law giving my son this lesson after he bought him his 22 long rifle. Solid and honest advice. I miss my father in law. He's fishing and hunting in heaven now.
Hunting in heaven? You're joking right? You REALLY think killing is going to be permitted? Aren't all of life considered to be part of God, meaning that hunting in heaven would equate to killing part of God?
I don't see how your father-in-law could be hunting in heaven.
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter
Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me,
Gen 9:3
God wants us to kill things for him.
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenterWe get it. You're atheist, and probably a Redditor.
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenterwhat’s even funnier is all of u arguing over something that doesn’t exist 😂😂
@@TheyDontCallMeThatheaven is doing what you love and thats how god rewards you
I bought a 22 bolt action rifle at an auction one time. The auctioned it as a 22 rifle. Bought it for 75 dollars. Got it home and shot a few shells through it but had some kind of trouble. Then i looked on the barrel and it said 22 magnum. It was a marlin 22 magnum so i think i did alright on that deal.
The very first rifle I ever bought was a 22 mag Marlin. Mine was semi-auto though. Bought it at K-mart back in 1987. Bought a scope for it,and got the 22mag ammo all in same purchase. Unheard of these days but then it was ok I guess cause I did it. It had a 7 shot clip, and I loved that rifle. Took down hundreds of vermin with that thing. Bullet right on the money every shot and gun never malfunctioned. I only bought magnum shells for it though. That rifle was badass for a 22. I definitely regret selling it.
Fucking jackpot!
@@keithhawk77437 shot clip?😂
@@michaelmajor5467 yep that is all she came with, this little ass 7 shot clip but I loved it anyway. Beautiful rifle. In 1987 the world wasn't trying to destroy itself and people running around with AR'S and AK'S with 100 round clips wasn't really the cool thing to do yet. Mass murders weren't an everyday news story so I was happy with 7 shots. Never ran into a situation where I saw 9 squirrels or rats all lined up waiting for me and my Marlin to only kill 8 of em and hope I'm fast enough to reload and pick off the other one.
I love my marlin .22wmr
Words of wisdom.
"AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE"- G.I. JOE
Yo Joe!
Thank you for this information. Proper ammunition in the proper firearm is one key to safety.
Yeah like a 38 in a 357 revolver..derp!🙄
That’s why the old Ruger Single Six had two cylinders. One for mag, one for short, long and long rifle. Bullet is the same diameter, case is not.
Ruger Super Wrangler came out with a 22 LR cyilnder and 22 mag cylinder. FYI.
Yep, I've got the single six hunter in 22win mag/22LR. I will say the twist rate does not like 22LR unless it's 1200fps or faster. the standard velocity stuff goes all over the place.
My gun absolutely loves 22 win mag regardless of the velocity.
Fired over 25,000 rounds in different Rugers and never had an issue. Didn't even know this was a thing until in my late teens or 20's.
Ummm........no they are not. Magnum is .224", 22Lr is .223".
One is jacketed and the other copper washed.
There is the possibility of a bulged barrel with repeated use of LR in a Magnum.
I'm not telling you what to do, or criticising.
This is just pertinent info that nobody has mentioned yet.
@@hughroughley3363 wrong !
People who put the wrong ammunition in their firearms are probably the same people who hold fireworks in their hands
You can hold a fire crackers in you hand as long is your hand is open its not going to hurt you to much. You can also use 22lr blanks and a pellet in a gun d get crazy high speed out of it. 22lr in a 22wmr chamber not the worst thing to do. I do not recommend doing any of the those things but sometimes people just have to push limits. If Elmer Keith never pushed limits you not have 357mag or 44mag.
See ya on the 10 o’clock news 👋
@@mike6932 use proper safety procedures when doing unsafe things is fun. Problem is trying to create proper safety procedures when trying to guess the outcome which is why it's should leave dangerous stuff to professionals and rednecks.
@Mike6932 I do not 😂
well of course ideally you wouldn't want to, but there are some rounds which are properly interchangeable to a reasonable degree , and sometimes desperate situations call for desperate measures lol
The case of .22WMR is slightly tapered too
I did not know this, thanks for the nugget xD
It just expands, no harm whatsoever.
Wrong. It can damage the chamber in some guns. I fucked up a north American mini revolver in .22 mag by shooting 22 lr in it
@@fuuuuuwahhhh5276NAA was your problem! 😉
@@ArchiveAmerica it can do it in other guns. Look it up.
@@fuuuuuwahhhh5276I only said it being funny, but Ive fired easily over 25,000 rounds in various Rugers and never once had any issues. Even when a case expanded you just eject it. Maybe in a tiny revolver like a NAA theres just less wall thickness but in a Ruger Magnum cylinder theres literally nothing that happens. Im curious what happened to your revolver? Did it ruin it or crack the cylinder?
@@ArchiveAmerica it blew up in such a way that the shell cracked and sent pressure backwards which scrapped a few internal parts of the revolver. It broke the little piece of metal that moves the cylinder when you pull the hammer back. It never damaged the cylinder itself. As I said the cylinder was rated for magnum, but since a .22 is slightly different than the magnum and it has a bit of space when you put that different cartridge in it will mess your gun up if the pressure is released the right way. Just like you I've shot thousands of rounds through these old guns, but when it happens it still happens like a freak accident. The mini revolver I had was machined so tight I can't get it apart due to internal parts expanding and moving in just the right directions. So I'll be sending it back to get it fixed or they will send me another thankfully. Also it can happen if you get a shell with too much powder in it. I've even got underpowered .22 rounds that led to a squib so I would hammer it out with a cleaning rod. Anything can happen with these guns.
I have a Heritage Rough Ryder Rancher 22lr revolver carbine and bought the 22 mag interchangeable cylinder therefore I can shoot 22 mag and 22 lr out of the same carbine just by changing cylinders! 👌
Thats changing the chambers though. I wish more wheel guns had that modularity.
It doesn't really work well, it wasn't designed to use the 22wmr cylinder so the cylinder gap is all fucked up and you get it way louder than it should be and a lot of bullet shave
@@tatsuhirosatou5513cylinder gap doesn't change because you go from 22lr to 22wmr. On guns like the heritage roughrider they are made to pretty loose tolerance for that fact make them easy to build cheap. The cylinder gap and throating on them are loose because makes it easy to not have to be precise on machining for the gun don't jam and don't have out of timing issues.
@@t-bfr45-70 the carbine isn't a convertible so its not designed to take the magnum cylinder, so the cylinder gap isn't regulated
@@tatsuhirosatou5513 I have not seen anything saying the rancher and rough rider have any different dimensions for cylinder length. Can you please tell me where I can find this information. In
Explains my cracked shells
Blow-by too.
😂
Y'all think a wmr cylinder will fire the Hmr
@@comingasathiefinthenight1120Its only one letter how much different can it be? Real question is can the .22 winchester magnum fit a .300 winchester magnum. Its only .08 inches difference in diameter right? /s
@@comingasathiefinthenight1120I'm pretty damn sure it will 22 wmr is the parent casing to 17hmr so it is the same casing just necked down to 17 wich also means it will probably keyhole in a 22 barrel
Save your spent 22 magnum cases, Dremel, the rim from the magnum cases, the 22 long rifle will seat inside the 22 magnum case and fill the chamber. Then you can shoot the 22 long rifle through the 22 magnum case without chamber split.
Brilliant concept for shell adapters 😮
@@peterwilson9327 …perhaps, but not new, someone told me this about 20 to 30 years ago. It still works in a pinch.
If the cases split..whats the issue? Will it damage the barrel?
@@dizcretpossibly the chamber
@@PolskaMosThat would be something. Would be like Cheese cutting a Glass
You can really notice the difference in the old Ruger Single Six.
When I was a kid I had a river 10/22 22mag and we shot long rifle through it all the time. Literally probably thousands of rounds of long rifle through it and it never hurt it. It would malfunction every so often and yes there were a few split cases but overall never a problem. That’s a 10/22 for you though
Yesh bc a mag is bigger than long rifle. So it fits. Now u cant fire a mag ammo through a long rifle is what hes saying.
@@daviedood2503No he's saying that you are not supposed to shoot .22 long rifle though a .22 magnum gun. The .22 Magnum will not even fit in a .22 long rifle so that one is obvious.
@@actionjksn you got it swapped wrong
I cut a hole in some spent 22 mag cases to adapt a regular. 22lr. Works wonderfully.
Very interesting
I think many have tried that. My father did it quite often.
maybe you should explain why we should care if the disposable case of the .22LR is split.
This is the reason that revolvers that shoot .22 LR and the .22 Win Mag use interchangeable cylinders. But even so, in my experience, the accuracy suffers because there seems to be a slight difference in the diameter of the two .22 cal bullets.
A patient, experienced, passionate cowboy is my go-to person to ask and learn guns info. Always clear and straightforward like this gentleman
Thank you. I have a Black Widow, 22 mag by North American arms. Just a single action 5 shot revolver, that could fit in your shoes.
But this question has always nagged at me. Good thing I didn't try it, it was very tempting
I have the plain vanilla version of that revolver. It came with both 22lr, and 22mag. cylinders. I've shot 22lr through the magnum cylinder with no issues other than loss of velocity, and it ruins the cases so you can't reload them lol. Never split any 😁
@@davefarnsworth3020Thanks for the tip 🤘
My single 6 came with both cylinders luckily
This man's absolutely right cause I Used to own a tiny North American arms 22 magnum single action and I would put 22LR hollow tip sent it to shoot sometimes and at least half the time or more the casings would Split and have issues ejecting from the cylinder
Your importance of knowledge is truly needed today. To many armchair computer users.
Good info. Would have never tried it. I don't play with calibers. I've known someone that fire formed some but he knew what he was doing. He had to fire form some of his rare calibers.
took my old single shot remington 22 rf did some delicate measuring and rechambered it to .22 mag..shoots like a champ..
No you didn't
What did you use to machine it out?
@@Gator-357 would you like to bet a million bucks on it champ?
@@actionjksn My nephew is a gunsmith, we actually used a 22RFWM chamber reamer and a lath in his shop..this was about 25 years ago.. we have also rechambered a couple .38 revolvers cylinders to fire the .357 mag.. all were test fire several times remotely to see if they could withstand the higher pressure..The .22 rifle rechambered for the .22rf mag has been used almost every year during squirrel season with no issues. The revolvers never showed any damage or stress even after a few dozen test fires.
@@recondrone6826nice try 357 in a 38 wouldnt work just due to length lmao 🤣 😂
Great information, and thank you, Sir !!!
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That is why 22 Win Mag pistols often come with a 22 Long Rifle cylinder. This is NOT 38 Special in 357 Mag situation. Who knows what you will get in your face when that 22 Long Rifle in a 22 Win Mag chamber splits. There was a (Long Dead) 22 Extra Long, but the
22 Win Mag is not it. Be safe, and do it right.
Common sense.
Thanks buddy that's how you save a life
How are split cases life threatening?
@@TeSolycMandalor, I reload my 38spl ammunition. After 24 reloads on the same brass, the cartridge split in the cylinder. It jammed so tight that I had to push it out with a stick then I continued shooting the rest of the 50 round box of ammo. I think the 22lr is more dangerous. When the case splits it might explode like an atomic bomb. Sending shrapnel for hundreds of miles and injuring thousands of people.
@@albertforletta1498the cases are so small you might just split an atom!
You can tell this man has a lot of knowledge…One you don’t mess with for sure!
As always great advice from an Icon in the business thank you Ron for taking time to save someone some trouble and possibly being hurt
Share that wisdom sir. All the real men are dying.
From mixing up .22 shells?
You can, however, use a spent 22wm case as a chamber adapter if you grind off the bottom....
I've got a matching pair of heritage revolvers and a Marlin 22 Magnum rifle and I absolutely love all three of those firearms in my collection.
Thank you Uncle!
Use cci loads you'll be fine no split
You can interchange them in many revolvers. Just have to swap cylinders
That's because when you swap cylinders, you are swapping the chambers. And this you are not interchanging the cartridge in the same chamber, which is what he's talking about.
Once removed a 22mag case stuck in a rem.552... couldn't believe they got it chambered & fired... Got er fixed up though..
Thanks ..👍🏼
Thanks for tip Ron.
I guess if you did, the case splitting may cause a back fire. This happened to me 40 years ago in a .22 BSA Marlin action and the flame shot out the cleaning port at the back of the rifle into my eye. Took a few months to recover luckily
If you do put .22 LR in a .22 mag you better use eye protection. You will get gasses blowing back from around the bolt face , because the case doesn't seal the chamber and the bullet jumps long distance to the lands and grooves. You'll get hot gasses in your face and eyes. Amendment ; Iwas speaking from first hand experience. 40 years ago I was a poacher. I used the .22 mag a lot in that work. And my favorite trick was cap a gator using a .22 long rifle In my .22 mag which made it sub sonic. I've shot a lot of hogs with it as well. Before you call me a liar again talk to the ballistic scientist here Mr Spomer. That is exactly scientifically what happens to the .22 LR when you fire it in a .22 mag. There will be a day when you get a face full of gasses, especially your eight eye unless you're shooting a left handed gun. I've got a marlin model 783 I've put 5000 rounds thru and 200 of those at least were .22 long rifle. Watch his video again and listen this time. Cases split, not always but they do. When the bullet makes the jump to the lands then pressure builds and the case may split but before this is completed some of the gasses can blow back past the bolt face in the breach and flow around the bolt. I'll bet your no older than 25 and believe you know everything. When I was younger I knew I didn't know everything and didn't challenge the knowledge of others unless I could prove it scientifically. That marlin I have is 1972 issue and I'll bet it's a great deal older than you. I quit poaching because of what I saw others doing. I hunted for meat only. I never hunted trophies. But I knew of others that cut the head and cape off of a deer and waste the rest. Think of me what you want . But you know nothing truly about me. I'm not a bad man but I have vastly more experience. I'm sure of that.
That’s not even remotely true and I’m speaking from first hand experience.
@@adub1300 It's "theoretically" true though! Splitting the case on a .22LR is unlikely in my experience, after thousands of shots in guns with part of the chamber missing.
Yep always good to where safety glasses when shooting any gun never know what will happen. I had the rim of a normal 22lr blow out in a 1911 22 pistol blow gasses back in my face nothing was damaged I wasn't hurt all was good besides It taking 1k of rounds through the gun not to have a little bit of a flinch lol. Always wear safety glasses when shooting and make sure have earplugs in as much as possible.
And yet you ARE a criminal, whether or not you agree to the term or not. Circumstances be damned, nobody wants to hear excuses, Pardner, and certainly not on a public forum. So while you say you were a "meat hunter," and we are left to presume it was to feed yourself and maybe your family, there ARE agencies available to help people who have fallen on hard times. That said, poaching is nothing more than STEALING from your neighbors and isnt right, no matter how you want to try and justify it.
So, yeah, I'm calling you out on it and hoping you don't get any pride in yourself for the acts you performed and confessed to herein, FFS.
SMDH. Some people's kids, I SWEAR!!
But the Lr fits quite well inside of the Win magso you could use it as a bushing. Don't do that either
when i was a kid, my dad bought a .22 savage rifle and we fired .22LR through it for years. never had a problem, extracted the cartridges fine for years, until one day i was looking it over and saw it said .22WMR on the barrel. never noticed it splitting cases because it always extracted fine.
And this is information I did not know. Much appreciated
Great advice. 👍
Did this. In my 22 win mag revolver shot 22 long rifle. Not split just stuck to the pont the ejecter doesn't get it out and had to manually do it with a toothpick
I am wiser for this instruction, thank you my good elder
Good advice, thanks Mister
Thanks for explaining this
Thank you sir,
I have wondered about this for decades.
I never tried it. Did wonder why though.
Very good to know, thank you. I thought it seemed thicker. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
I had the case split on a .22LR 35 years ago and my ears are still ringing. 🇦🇺
Thanks for the advice Good Sir
Excellent info. Very needed!💪🏻👍🏻
I'd like to thank you for that information. I had been wondering.
Thank you, man
Had one idiot at a gun store years ago with his AR getting stuck case removed. It was chambered in .223 and he couldn’t for some reason understand why a .222 Remington wouldn’t cycle since “it’s only one number different” 😐🙄
If u have a 22lr revolver like my little rough rider. U can get a 22 mag cylinder. Then u can shoot both with the same gun, u just have to use the cylinder for whichever ur shooting.
This never crossed my mind, the cartridges are clearly different. But now that you bring it up I am not at all surprised that some smooth brains thought it would work.
Thanks for the information.
Thanks for sharing
My dad had a .22 Ruger that had 2 cylinders, one for L, LR and shorts and the other specifically for Mags.
I've done it. Also the 38 and 357 interchange i believe 🎉
I tried it a couple of times just to try it. There was no splitting of cases, however it took two or three strikes of the firing pin on each cartridge. I gathered the WMR case was thicker around the primer.
My 12 gauge just entered the chat with a chamber 50 BMG
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Never say never because when you are in a bad situation you have to use what you've got.
.22 long rifle will fire...loaded one at a time... it'll be quieter too....lr shot out of .22 win mag marlin bolt rifle...lost velocity....but made it out of the muzzle....22 short....lodged in the barrel ....rammed it through... with a cleaning rod.
@@0patience4flzhmmmm, i was thinking about trying that,i got about a dozen boxes of shorts around but had a bad feeling. Aint gonna try it now. Thanks
To bad I sold my Winchester Magnum rifle for cheap at a pawn shop, now they're worth around 1500$ at one 😣
I used to do it with a ruger single six. Just made the casings expand a little and stick in the cylinder a bit.
Thank you, Grandpa
22 mag is such a great rifle. Not overly loud, always precise, 24,000 psi max barrel pressure slings that round 2000 feet per second triple supersonic a fair distance 100 yards not too shabby. Cheap to operate.
Thanks!
I grew up shooting 22lr in 22 magnum revolvers. It's practicing plinking shooting. The worst that happened was that the casing expands and it's difficult to extract. That's it.
You answer a lot of questions I never knew I really needed to know lol
Thanks for information
you should add more details like .22mag is .224 and 22lr is .223 in diameter
Wonderful information and very educational.
I have never wondered that in my life. You gained a follower.
I bought a bolt action Marlin 25MN rifle (likes WMR) off a friend who needed some fast cash maybe 7 or 8 years ago.
There was a shortage of rimfire ammo then, the *only* ammo I could find was snakeshot. I bought a couple boxes just so I could try firing the thing but never did.
Isn't the 22 long rifle .222 bore and the 22 magnum .224? I have heard of chamber reaming a 22LR to magnum.
This is good advice. You can however safely shoot 22 short and 22 long in a 22 LR chamber. You’ll inevitably have feeding issues with box or rotary magazines, but tube-fed, single shots and revolvers you’ll have no issues, assuming that tube-fed guns aren’t semi autos.
I have never done that, very different pressure levels between. 22 mag and lr.
I never wondered, but the info is good for those that do not check interchangeability out...😮
I’ve shot 1000s of rounds of 22lr thru my 351pd . Good accuracy and never had an issue . As a kid shot 10 of thousands thru my dad’s 22mag smith revolver . Only ever remember few times sticking on ejection, nothing crazy .
Common sense of the way things were done back in the day. Everything was designed for a purpose or reason. They were not worried much about compatibility but they were worried about the need it was designed for. Great evening to you and God bless. Great advice and people who are watching this will try it anyway because of the explanation and they are told what they will do and not to do it. They are going to try it anyway.
I handed a Ruger 22 win mag and a half wit promptly loaded a 22 lr in to it and fired , it made the extraction of the case rather tough, I had to use a fondue stick to clean the cylinder. But didn’t seem to cause any permanent issues. The case didn’t split but I think it was a standard velocity target specific, 40 gr.
Emergency bugout conversion works very well with 22lr in a 22WMR casing for single shot applications only...
Thank you
Great info and a huge misconception on a lot of weapons.
I did it man, I did gloves with the empty 22wmr to put the 22lr inside that case hehe and as worked well! I’m from Brazil!
When I was 15 I wanted a 22WMR and I only had a single shot .22 LR. I drilled out the chamber with a drill bit that allowed the casing of the .22WMR to fit and have been using .22WMR ammo in the gun ever since. It shoots very hard and has taken a ton of game in the past 40+ years.
I have an older Ruger w/ two interchangable cylinders
Y'all hear about that new 22 LR from CCI called the uppercut it's designed for 3 4 and 5 in pistol with good expansion😊😊😊
I learned this the hard way with my 22lr revolver that has two cylinders. One 22mag the other 22lr and shot 22lr out of the mag cylinder and split the case sending back presser into my hand.
I have done this many times in my mag - and yes, around 5 out of 10 times you are pulling a split casing out of your gun with plyers. I did this before I even knew about the slight size difference. I thought my extractor was faulty out of ignorance 😅
Good to know.
There's a handful of similar rounds. 9mmx18 v 9mm Luger(19) is very easy for new shooters to mistake.
Had an old High standard Derringer in 22 Mag. that i cut the case heads off spent mag cases. I used the cut 22 mag cases to sleeve the chambers. 22 lr fit perfectly inside the sleeved chambers. i shot lots of 22lr in the rechambered Derringer.
A lot of folks keep said spent 22 mag shell rub the primer off the back on concrete and slip the 22 long up inside it for worse case back up 👍
“Probably” is a word that gets brushed aside too often. When talking about something that happens a lot like cars down a highway, trees growing in a forest, or rounds through a .22, “probably” means “definitely”.