‘I choose not to forgive you’ | Mother of Oxford shooting victim speaks at shooter’s sentencing
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- čas přidán 7. 12. 2023
- A judge will decide whether the attack will carry a life prison sentence for the 17-year-old shooter.
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You can tell she has ran out of tears. Unimaginable.
No it is not . I lost my daughter nearly seven years ago and other than in the first couple of months , I cannot cry . I lost my close cousin , an uncle and a very close friend over the last year . Still no tears . It is horrible . But I was lucky as mine died of illness in a hospital bed with me there beside her .
Strong, God Bless this Mother.
@@BlackStump172she was saying unimaginable in that it’s hard for her to even fathom the amount of pain it would take that you could be left with no tears. It wasn’t a diss or however you took it.
@@BlackStump172no, it actually is very unimaginable. I can do my best to try and put myself in her shoes and try to imagine the pain she is in and what she has gone through but no matter how greatly I try, I will never fully understand because yes, that pain, trauma, emotions, grief is all unimaginable unless you have actually gone through it as well and I have not I believe that that is what the initial commenter meant when they said it is “unimaginable” , they meant no offence or ill intent
Sadly, she'll carry this pain forever and nothing will minimize her feelings and her memories
She's so strong, i'm sending all my love to this mother. No parent should EVER have to go through this.
This woman has such strength! Articulate, concise, and courteous to legal staff. My heart goes out to this family.
My deepest condolences to the mom and the surviving families.
My deepest condolences for America. The youth do this
In my country, they fight with fists, not end people
@@MangoTroubles-007 That's how it used to be here, too. Kids didn't reach for their guns, even though more kids had them back then. Things have gone off the rails. Human life is valued less and less. So many people are ready and willing to kill others, now. We've fallen so far.
@@MangoTroubles-007agree. Condolences to the American children & how blessed are those who don't live in the USA.
I love how the same females that create shooters and create male and female American expats for wife. How many men have internationally wives for how many females were marrying and having children with female. Dont ever get mad at the male with the gun if the female was a mile ahead of betryaing you as a man
This poor mother. No parent should ever have to lose a child this way.
Holding a vindictive grudge takes no strength. No he don't deserve better but she's no better than him
@@lady4191of course she's better than him, are you nuts
'I was dragged away from her, I was not allowed to touch my own daughter, I was not allowed to hold her hand and just let her know I was there.' Those particular words hit me. I can't find the words to describe how she felt at that moment. My eyes had built up tears ready to be shed, knowing an innocent and intelligent teenage girl's life, was unmercilessly ended.
Same😢
Reminds me of something my bff once said, "Some things are not forgiveable." Fifty years later, it's still true.
If this mother's heartbreak didn't touch your heart, then you have no heart.
No one cares, these shootings are getting old
ok i have no heart then, since it did not touch me at all.
@@erlendalvr6641yup you have no heart
Her daughter is so proud of her mothers composure and sentiments. Wonderful.
If her daughter is in heaven and sees her mother proud told hold unforgiveness, her daughter is probably very sad that her mother will choose to go to hell instead of reuniting with her daughter in heaven. Unforgiveness is murder through choices of the heart. Jesus died a spotless man to propitiate your sin. How can you not forgive another person and think grace is still for you? She is crucifying herself on the cross by choosing unforgiveness. God let's her choose.
@@Amber-km9cp you sound psychotic, get some therapy.
@Amber-km9cp Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life! Glory to our Lord and King for He is worthy of all praise! 💯🙌
@@Amber-km9cpcan you tell me where in the bible says that people will go to hell?
@@lhr8833
Amber wrote her own version of the bible where she plays god.
As a mother of a 17 yr old, Senior which I also named Madison, she too has a little sister who is 12 and is her closest confidant and best friend. I cannot stop crying. This mothers pain and words cut me to my soul. The world we are living in. The world these children are growing up in is something out of a horror film. My heart goes out to this family and my prayers will continue to be said for this family and the others. There are just no words for the evil these school shooting monsters are filled with. Dear God!!
Take her out of school. You live in a country where this is ok. Your country is vile & the majority of the western world does not live like this.
America is the 36th most dangerous country in a big world. So many beautiful places to live, America is a dump. Of course you can be hurt anywhere, but it's more likely in America, a country where no one cares that a child can be shot at school.
Ah, there is a word: parental neglect. Also: mental illness.
Imagine if Ethan had had a mother like Madison's; he would not have become a school shooter, let me tell you.
My heart breaks 💔 for her mother and the rest of her family
Madison Baldwin had a very short life and a wonderful loving Mother. My heart breaks for this caring Mother and I pray she finds peace and knows that her daughter was so loved by her. Bless Madison's family.
What beautiful heartfelt statement by Madison’s Mom.
Wow! So many poignant and very precisely thought-out words from Madison's mother describing the grief and horror she and her family went through. I know Madison was proud of her Mother's heart aching statement.
Gut wrenching for a parent to have to go through this!! I can’t imagine the pain and suffering these families must be feeling!!
What a beautiful tribute to Madison. Her advocacy; her strength to speak her truth ; I honor you as deeply as you honor Madison.
I do not know how u made it through this without tears bc I'm crying like a baby and I felt every single word she said this family didn't deserve this and I'm praying for ur family
As a Mom, I'm feeling sadness and rage! THIS is a very strong woman to stand up and read her story. No mother should ever have to bury her child
this woman's calm and grace is something I know I could never rise up to in that same situation. Much love and solace to all victims.
Wow. She did amazing. How she worded everything so eloquently and delivered it so confidently. I hope this helps her have some closure not to have to live through it over and over in court.
How can anyone take away someones child and cause so much pain? 😢
Seems like a daily occurrence in America.
There is evil in the world in some people.
@@rgb188happens everyday around the world, naìve to think otherwise. the methods aren't always the same, but the US isn't unique when it comes to senseless violence.
@@y2ksurvivorno it seems to be a problem local to America, Canada, the UK and Australia don't have these school shootings
@@BlackStump172there's potential evil in all of us
Dammit woman, making me cry like this. I wouldn't ever forgive him either.
This is one strong mother!
This happened local to me and I was an acquaintance of this family and helped looked for Maddy that day when they thought she ran from the school and may have been hiding somewhere. Not sure if many know this but this family was not told about Maddy until almost 11 pm that night!
How did they not find her in the school? So many questions still remain.
I just bawled my eyes out, my daughter was the same age as Maddy at the time and it is absolutely heartbreaking.
Maddy is watching over you Momma! We all ❤ you and Maddy!
My heart is broken with your loss. I don't even have words. Sorry is not adequate.
We are legion, in compassion w these victims. For God gave His only Son to Save us.
I want to hug this mom. I hope she is hugged every day by her loved ones. I hope she knows her daughter leaves her an eternal hug. God bless you, Madison and the rest of your family.
I’m so tired of these parents, sisters, and brothers having to find a way to survive this pain and horror. We as a society must find a way to make this senseless violence against innocent children stop.😢
What an accurate description of grief. Continuing prayers for this family and community. ❤🙏Jane
As a mom I feel her strength in that moment. This is not about her grief alone, but everyone who Madison touched. As a mom you can’t find the answers. Because any explanation is never enough.
R.I.P.❤ "Madison watch over your Family"
I CANNOT. IMAGINE. Hearing those words about my child. I ache for this woman.
Now it’s over the poor parents are left with their life sentences, empty spaces where their babies once were, and a lifetime of missing them 😢 bless them all
Her saying that she had to look at her from a specific side is just horrible.. no parent should have to through this..💔
Pausing @ 7:30. I feel like it's been years since I cried, I actually thought that nothing would make me cry, but this made tears come out of my face. Madison, i'm sorry this world failed you. May you find solace in whatever that could possibly lie beyond death.
Mom describing what that monster will eventually feel at some point gave me goose bumps 🪽🪽🪽🪽
I am sorry if this hurts but your love for Madison and your expression of it really blesses me.
I can't help but cry for these dear family members of our lost babies. Sending eternal love to you and yours xoxo
That monster doesn't deserve to be forgiven
As a mother, I can't fathom losing a child. My heart goes out to the victim's loved ones. How are these disgusting acts so common now? The parents of these monsters who are responsible should be also held responsible for the part they played, wheteher or not they knew what their kid was up to. It is your responsibility as a parent to know what your child is doing.
Well that depends these parents bought him the gun 3 days before the shooting so there's that factor
It takes a village to raise a child. We’re all responsible
This is beautifully expressed. I have never been a mom and your love for your daughter is a radiant gift which you express so beautifully. I
Missed out on some of this with my mom. I am more healed by hearing about your love for Madison. Please accept my condolences again.
💜💜💜💜
His parents are just as guilty as their son, or even guiltier. They brought that gun as a gift for their son, a gift of death to him for those he killed. They knew their son had emotional problems and needed professional help, not a gun to appease him.
They 💯 knew it was just a matter of time before he did that and they waited and waited until it happened, they almost encouraged it thought it was humorous they are evil
Not necessarily
I ran out of tears watching this too. I have a teenager and cannot imagine my life without him. I'm so sorry for the loss of the Madison & other children..condolences to the families and friends ❤
As Polly Klaas' father said "forgiveness is overrated".
What a strong mom...wow, I would not have the courage to stand up there!
Bless her heart, she deserves hugs from all. I pray she finds peace
Truly eloquent expression of love and grief she shared -how heart wrenching and devastating.
My prayers continue for all the victims and their families. 😢
What a strong woman!!!🙏❤️ condolences to all the families.
Now wait just a FREAKING MINUTE! When my parents passed away we met at the funeral home. All siblings were asked if any of us wanted to identify their bodies; if not the funeral home would use their drivers license for identification purposes. I stood right up immediately! I had a drive in me! I wanted my last conversation with them.
My sister and brother declined. I was determined to have that last conversation with the ones who gave me life!
HELLO, why was this mother not allowed to hold her child for the last time? I had a conversation with both of my parents and hugged them, cried with them, until my husband pulled me off of their bodies.
THIS MOTHER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED THAT LAST MOMENT WITH HER CHILD! Shame on YOU who did not give this grieving mother her last moment with her child 🤬🤯‼️‼️ Those moments I had with my parents cold lifeless bodies will give me love for a lifetime ❤❤ I said the last goodbye and HAD the last hug 🤗❤
Yeah like the other comment said, injuries might have been clearly visible/severe.
@@user-ti8ht2wg6b makeup does a lot!
@@khigh1 Makeup does a lot.
There was no makeup. Her child was in a morgue, not a funeral home. It was a gun shot. There are things that no family should see. My late bro in law was hit by a train. No one in the family was allowed to see him until the funeral home “fixed” the left side of his head. Seeing how he looked, the damage was obviously extensive. We could be thankful that the damaged side was toward the back of the casket. I pray this family had that.
I initially thought that it was best that the mother wasn't allowed to be w/her daughter but your comments changed my mind. The authorities could have explained to her that they meant no disrespect but it wasn't something a loved one should have as their final memory and maybe suggest that she remained covered so her mother could still be w/her to hug her and say goodbye.
It was bad enough they waited an hour at a shooting incident for any news about their child only to hear only their name being called out over a speaker to respond to a location. Like "What on Earth is happening?"
I hope the killer's parents didn't get bailed out. They're a flight risk after not appearing for their arraignment and trying to hide from the law. Their attorneys were crying foul that they didn't know about the arraignment but fell short explaining how their clients didn't know they can't try to hide from the law.
I'm sorry for your terrible loss. I think it takes so much courage to say your final goodbye to someone you love. I don't know if I'd have the strength to go though the most unbearable pain. I'm grateful you weren't alone and that you had your husband there to support you. 🌺🌹❤
Madison is saying, “That’s my Mom!!!”
Sending this loving mom a hug with so much love!
Madison is with you always. Letting go of anger is different than forgiveness.
How ?
@@elijahtrent21 You might be right. But people really feel forgiveness of themselves is paramount and the most powerful. I think when a brutal crime occurs, trying to forgive someone else forces you to think of the perp which can be unbearable. You can learn and choose a different way of life without anger and not give a second thought about the perpetrator to even wonder if you forgive them or not. It's not about the perpetrator. It's about finding tools to enjoy as stress free of a life as possible regardless of what the perp did, how they feel, and if they've changed or not. Hopefully that works for people and is not just a band-aid approach.
Brave lady. Nobody deserves this kind of pain, ever.
This mother is amazing and her daughter is so proud of her. Your words touched me so deeply. I pray for you and your family.
Amazing words and so very sorry you lost Madison to a POS!! Tears flowed. 😢 As a mother, I cannot fathom. I worry for my grandchildren & pray one day we see more love & peace! Bless you & all those affected. Be strong, make a difference, change laws, and wish you peace through this heartache. ❤
As a Mother I felt her pain.. you don't have to forgive anyone. Especially for something like taking my child's life..
My deepest sympathy for her and her family
You do NOT have to forgive a monster like this in order to find peace. It is absolutely heartbreaking to hear this mother still speak of her daughter in the present moment. 😢 😢 May God be with Madison’s family and all of those affected by such tragedy. ❤❤❤❤
You will forgive if you want *true* peace. There is only one way to do it though…..and that is through following Christ Jesus. And it is not easy in the slightest, but it’s possible. And to forgive does not mean what they did was ok or acceptable. Not at all.
I am so sorry. Please accept my deepest condolences to all of these families. Please accept them. I am so sorry.
I am sobbing listening to this mother. My heartfelt condolences to these families.
It's such a helpless feeling listening to so much pain, grief and loss. I so wish this was the last victim impact statements we will hear from the victims of school shootings in the US😢😢💙💙
Very well said Momma. You, and your daughter, so touched me with your strength, wisdom, and courage.
I am so sorry for your loss ❤ 🙏💐
My deepest condolences to her and her family. I loved her speech that she said. I hope he pays for it in prison. It's hard to lose a child. No parent should go through this. It's too painful 😢
This mother has such strength and bravery. I can feel the pain of what's she going through of losing her daughter so young. She don't deserve to feel that pain. It's unfair of what has happened to this mother. I honor her bravery.
Crying for your loss. I would not forgive, either. Fight on mother. Peace to you all & to your Dear daughter. (& people, this is not a platform for your religion. please quit with your trolling religious comments.)
I wonder what the other side of her daughter was being doted on. ?
Matthew 6:14-15, a person who doesn't forgive others will not be forgiven by God. In the verses, Jesus states: "For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."
@@ralphangel561 BS.
@@tommas2674I’m just curious- what you meant in your comment🤷♀️
@@ralphangel561we are told in the scriptures to hate the sin, not the sinner. Jehovah God hates none of us, he hates the sins that we commit. There is a big difference. I’m sure this woman is so crushed, so sick to her stomach that her baby is dead. She hates the sin. I think in time she will separate the hate for what he did to her child, her family, her life. This is raw right now. I cannot fathom what she is going thru. I’m sure her hate is at the whole situation. How can she separate the hate right now? Not possible. I think God loves us+ just doesn’t want us to be hateful. Just my take on the Bible. Which I’ve been studying for 40+ yrs. Forgiveness takes time.
My deepest condolences to her family peace be with her family
This crushed me!! My heart truly goes out to this Mom & Family! Also to all other families of these victims! I’m balling!
I cannot even imagine what this woman and what these families will endure for the rest of their lives. Being in that situation. It brings me to tears now. A year ago my sons school went on lockdown because of a gun. Thankfully it was just a replica gun and not a real one. But when you get that call your whole world stops. You don’t breathe you can’t think. You don’t even have control over your body. Like I said all was well at my child school. But I could’ve easily been in this woman shoes right now. We all can. Enough. These weapons of war need to be taken from the streets
I like the mother's victim impact statement. How touching. What a wonderful mother and daughter.
This is way too painful to watch. I don’t know being a mom myself that is honestly one of my biggest fears I have my daughter is out of high school now and in college and still I still have these type of fears. The world is just so damn cold. I literally can’t take a deep breath comfortably and so she’s home where I know she’s safe good Lord give this poor woman strength heal her heart and soul show her that her daughter is watching all her from heaven Amen 🙏
My daughter is also away in college in another state. When she is home I feel like I can breathe.
That was HORRIFIC.
Losing her baby in such a horrific manner.....her lifetime of tears has left her body. She gave them all away. As a mother, I cry listening as no parent can imagine this or should have to go through this. May GOD keep them close.
This is the first time I have really felt every minute she recalled.. 😢 I wish I could change this reality for her..
As a mother of a little girl, listening to this mother’s heartbreak, I couldn’t stop crying.
I am broken. Totally broken. I pray for this mother's strength and eventual peace.
As a mother, I feel this mother’s pain. My deepest sympathy to her family, may she meet the angels with warm open hands. Rest in peace sweetie ❤
Gosh this is heartbreaking. This should not be a norm in the U.S. hugs and healing from 🇨🇦
Powerful words she stood so strong 💪🏼 and gave it to him her daughter would be so proud of her mama ❤
Every parent's worst nightmare. I'm a father of a two-month-old child. I cannot imagine the pain she's going through as a mother. Put yourself in her shoes and see how it feels to lose your child to violence. This is gut-wrenching.
Shes chosing not to forgive his choices...wise words. She IS a true survivor, as a mother never should have to face the loss of a child under the tragic circumstances of unforgivable choices another human made.
I hope she takes strength from her own words, Madison will always be with her. It’s not the things that happen to us that define us, but it’s how we react to those points in our history. Her strength, wisdom, courage, courtesy to those from the court system who supported her, and most of all honesty deserve all our respect, I could never forgive anyone who took my daughters or grandchildren. The fact he did it almost like a publicity stunt for his own notoriety makes it all the more sickening.
Wow...this made me cry....I am a parent & I couldn't even imagine what she's going through.
This poor mother 🥺 all my love to all the victims ❤ and families
A parent's worst nightmare has become her reality. To have your precious child killed intentionally, randomly and for no reason, happy and alive one moment, gone the next. - she articulated it all extremely well. Love and prayers for this mom.
“I choose not to forgive you.” Will be a sentence that rings out in eternity
This woman is the epitome of strength. No mother should ever experience this
A mothers true strength lays mainly in the pure love for her children .
I am moved and so proud of her , i am overwhelmed with compassion for the family . I felt the spirit of her daughter , speaking through her words , she can rest at peace now 😢. May God have mercy on his soul .
Wow. 😢 Bless you Mom and Madison. ❤
My condolences goes out to the families that lost loved ones .
My full condolences to the family.🙏.
Powerful message from the mom ..
So heartbreaking. Blessings to these families. So sorry for your loss.💙
What an aspiration, amazing mom. The loss of your beautiful daughter Maddison is truly unpalatable!! Rest in Paradise Maddison
Prayers to this mother and her family, Powerful Impact Statement😢❤
I’m so sorry for this beautiful woman
So glad i live in a country with extremley strict gun laws! When our kids go school of a morning we know as parents our kids can learn in peace and safety and not have to run from a spoilt physco kid shooting at them . What a beautiful brave loving mum ❤. RIP Maddie 🙏🏼 💕
You are joking right????
@marymonroy8442 yes coz I just love joking about serious issues 🙄🙈 In my country we have knife crime same as any other country which is bad enough but we cant ban knives, sissors, dangerous tools but guns 🤔😩only people that need guns are police and Army. So sad for those poor kids and their families😔
@@clairebuckley4421People with guns don’t board boxcars. A knife kills just as dead as a gun. I’m glad you don’t live in this country, either.
@@clairebuckley4421 Your logic is so flawed. So because some people drink and drive we should ban cars and alcohol? Your a fucking idiot
@@marymonroy8442she is not, every murder in the whole country is a headline because they are not very common
I am sobbing and I am so sorry.
Prayers to her.
I’m soo sorry
As a mother bless this mother. God bless her! May her daughter rest in loving Peace.
This is gut-wrenching😢! I am praying for this mom, her family, and all of the families❤🙏🏽
I'm so very sorry. 😢
Prayers for you & your family 🙏🏻
I just cannot comprehend raising a child and watch them grow through adulthood, just for them to be taken away from you like this. So many feelings and so much pain and just an unimaginable loss..
Nicole is so courageous and brave and honest... All of which are so beautiful to me. Madison was and will forever be a shining example of her mother.