I'm a 43 year old black america man, and I grew up in the 80's. Stephen K Hayes is correct when he said "everyone back in the 80's wanted to be a ninja". Because myself, my older brother and our friends all wanted to be Ninjas in the 80's. Sho Kosugi was one of my favorite martial arts actor's besides Van Damme and Jackie Chan that I saw on VHS tapes back in the 80's. Stephen K Hayes Is correct when he said MMA was not as normal back in the 80's. I was born in 79 and my brother in 77 and my sister in 75. None of us 80's kids never heard of MMA back then. Great video Viking Samurai.
I had the pleasure of meeting him one time at the MIA convention in Vegas , as someone who trains mma / bjj , I was absolutely impressed with his techniques and his way of being a good man . Respect
I'm very inspired by his humility and even with his 50+ years of experience, you can tell that he has no need to show off his skills nor techniques. And I have yet to hear him claim that he fought 500 plus people in some underground kumite or that he was called by the CIA to be on a special mission to save God knows who from XY danger, etc. This gentleman is one that I can totally listen to and actually be in awe and have respect for, because like he said in the last video, life is too short to be arguing over petty things or trying to prove how badass they are. Thank you, David. Its videos like these that I truly appreciate and get inspired to become a version of myself each and every day. And yes, I've encountered folks in the past when I was growing up in Puerto Rico that claimed they were XY Shotokán Ninja and for some reason, they always had to carry a ninja star or a pair on nunchucks with them wherever they went. Im surprised they never got arrested for carrying them, since we all know, they are weapons-lol!! Anyway, once again, thank you.
This is one of your best interviews ever He's a legend I used to read all his stuff in black belt magazine this guy looks like he's down to earth All I can say you're ending the year awesome keep up the great work brother I just hope you get that Van Damme interview but you're doing awesome keep going forward can't wait who's next
Awesome content keep it coming. I have to say. I definitely pre-judged Steven Hayes these interviews has definitely change my perception about him this guy is legit in his own right .
Another awesome interview Viking. I used to read Stephen Hayes books back in the 90's, at a Walden's Book store. Hayes books had the best cover art work. Glad he talked about those "KARATE PLUS GUYS" aka Talented MARTIAL artist who lie, to get students.
I myself was my local neighbourhood ninja as a kid. I trained in karate but after seeing the movie "American ninja " and the tv show" master ninja" transformed myself into a ninja complete with throwing starts, nunchucks, dart gun, and ninja outfit. My friends were amazed at my new found ninja prowess and were often on the receiving end of my ninja stars and various weapons. My ninja training lasted a few years... until the movie " kickboxer" came out.
Been in the arts since 1966 i have seen alot of crazy stuff out there but i want to concur mr haye’s experiance with the instructor he spoke about i have ran across someone that would change his school based on what was popular with public and promoted himself…. Its crazy but humorous…!!!
I'm ex military and served from 1980 - '85 loved it went all over Asia and was lucky enough to train in all kinds of martial arts, and anytime they had a martial artist come on base I'd try to be the first one there!😀Also I did bodybuilding, and powerlifting in the Navy, you can get exposed to alot things in the military, lot of people never take advantage of it, but I love fitness and martial arts, I still practice to this day, I'm in my 60s and if I miss a workout I get depressed - it's something I love to do. Stephen Hayes is an interesting man he worked out in Japan , just like Steven Seagal , I wonder if they ever met?
@@VikingSamurai both of them are connected to the Dalai Lama, and both are good in their respective arts . Love your Channel you always have great guests on, and good subjects.🥋❤
Pretty brilliant guy, I envy his life in a way in the sense he explored these incredible things a lot of us can only dream of, really enjoyed learning through this interview Viking, thank you 🙏
I know it sounds dorky, but TMNT is what started it all for me. What was it, 1988? Then the movie in 1990. Gave me this ninja desires lol. That led to the discovery of American Ninja the movies at the video store and then I was obsessed. Made my first nunchucks by chopping up my mom's broom handle.
Stephen as well as Simon Yeo are two of my fave martial arts writers, Stephen talked about not limiting yourself and Simon about adding skill sets like BJJ/judo to your martial arts practice.
@Viking Samurai you are so blessed as we all are .But this journey with you through your journalism and interviews has been amazing , Who would have known you would be doing such amazing interviews with all these awesome people . Thank you :)
Make sure to watch part 1 of my interview with Stephen K. Hayes here: czcams.com/video/mchJgVY5zdY/video.html Make sure to watch part 2 of my interview with Stephen K. Hayes here: czcams.com/video/3Z6DnBUX0EA/video.html See part 4 of my interview with Stephen K. Hayes here: czcams.com/video/PyhOJCABD1k/video.html
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@@justinmartens1890 thats fake, this kind of thing has been happening to a lot of youtube channels unfornately, these fake messages... I'm not on Nicegram, please ignore any message if it looks like it came from me on there.
@@VikingSamurai ten-four that actually makes allot more sense. You know things are going pretty well when you have weirdos impersonating you & stalking the chats
The man is a Legend. Still looking sharp at his age. Ninjutsu is just cool, and if you have a good teacher, it's basically the best self-defense art. I trained "Ninjutsu" with a Military guy who basically taught a mix of Hapkido/Karate/TKD/Jiu-Jitsu plus some weapons occasionally and called it Ninjitsu.
I trained in the 80s as a teen our Semsei was a man who had an Asian furniture store in our neighborhood, but I read EVERY ONE of Hayes' and Hatsumi's books and was deeply inspired by his writing. Thank you sir.
Hello, Viking Samurai. I'm telling you, this interview is complete fire. The rate in which you get these interviews, how many you have on the shelf, is truly impressive and very entertaining, not to mention, educational. TERRANCE OUT
Even in the 80s, cross training was not a thing, let alone MMA which did not exist. Puts into perspective just how revolutionary Bruce Lee's thoughts and ideas were in the 60s through to the 70s before his untimely passing.
Nar not my city in new Zealand. In the 90s as a kid no mma or we got N.H.B no holds bard. We had people who crossed trained boxing judo kickboxing karate wrestling c.q.b even muay thai kickboxing. But no full mma school's.
You got Stephen Hayes! Do you know how many books I had of this man in the 80’s along with all the ninja gear you could still purchase legally at the time? Amazing!
Lmaoo! Believe it or not I actually put down a high school football bully using a technique I learned from an Ashida Kim ninja book on how to escape a headlock so I really should bash him too much :)
I'm 60, from Australia 🇦🇺 I've doing Martial arts all my life, I'm one stripe away from my black belt in BJJ, never got to try Ninjitsu I'm going to the Philippines next year. To start my own school, want to showcase as many different Martial arts as possible. I still have some of Steve's books, this really was inspiring.
Great interview series! If you get Anthony, you should bring in Sean Askew to counterpoint. Get Richard Van Donk and Noguchi in the conversation. Would love to see a round table discussion with Stephen and these fellows.
In the 80s I thought I was a NINJA and I never took any martial arts. Never was in a fight. Had the balance of town drunk..lol.. I'll be 51 Nov 30th I'm still a NINJA! lol!
Thanks for asking my question about The FBI academy! I remember reading NNJUTSU THE ART OF THE INVISIBLE WARRIOR as a kid ,and there was a pretty advanced section ( for an 80s martial arts book )on firearm disarmament tactics and VIP escorting . I always wondered where the hell he learned that from , because it never resurfaced in other works , and I knew there was no way he was getting that stuff from Hatsumi . Fast forward years later and i attended a school in the military which had pretty similar tactics and ironically Around that time i happened upon Ninja Vol 6 , and Hayes vaguely mentions being invited to the academy to train .
About 83 84 I trained out his books. I was very limber from kungfu PT. I tried karate and aikido at the ymca . For years not even with thought ive used these skills like second nature and its helped. I did gain alot of understanding. You know theres not alot to get your hands on its mostly family history thats tattered remaining
I remember Stephen well from the Martial arts mags. He comes across well in this interview, not at all bragging or tough guy very interesting. I also remember Robert Bussey another "ninja" I'd be interested to see him interviewed also. Great work as usual.
It would be good if u could interview the late Professor Ronald Duncan's son who carries on his legacy. Professor Ronald Duncan was demonstrating Ninjitsu in the 1960s at least 15 years before Stephen K. Hayes respectfully.
Viking Samurai your “neighborhood ninja” seems legitimate to me! Sword cutting is still a high-level skill, welding a sword does take time to be precise.
Way back when Mr. Hayes was in Atlanta I believe, and it was very early in his career, I received a "1st Order" certificate from him, and it was described as equivalent to a green or blue belt. I unfortunately do not have it anymore, I wish I did.
I went to Someya-Dojo way back in 1988 during the big ninja craze of the 80's and was disappointed to find it in a small industrial town (Noda-shi) which smelt of soya sauce (Kikkoman's main factory was there). I trained with a few of the main teachers like Shiraishi-sensei and Ishizuka-sensei. Hatsumi-Soke's classes cost 3,000 yen a class as I recall. Ishizuka-sensei rented me a box (like a cargo crate) with broken windows (covered with newspaper) for 30,000 yen a month. No bathroom or anything. I washed my face in freezing water in an outdoor sink. Not the best of times. I ended up getting a job and moving away to a real apartment in a different part of Chiba-Ken, and only trained sporadically with Shiraishi-sensei after that.
@@devriestown For some reason (movies??), I was expecting meditating under waterfalls, but for the most part it was watching Hatsumi-Soke demonstrate a technique, then pairing up and practising it. There was a guy from Israel (I think) who would translate for Hatsumi-Soke. I remember Hastumi-soke defeating a bunch of guys with an orange. Teaching point: anything can be a weapon.
@@martinrenner2992 wow that's pretty crazy my friend back in the day went to Brazil to train jiu jitsu he slept at the academy for one year trained three times a day lol
not sure, but sounds like Viking Samurai is talking about Ronald Duncan. Black dude, I beleive he was military and I've seen some of his demos in videos. Not legit ninjutsu, but he was def one of the big names out there.
Doron Navon - The first foreign Bujinkan Shihan He open First Ninja school in Israel in 1976. In Japanese Shin He received his 5th degree black belt in Bujinkan. So he studied in Japan before Steven Hayes. I am a budjinkan Black Belt. In the Budjinkan society Steven is not looked up to because he claimed to be the first foreign teacher of Maasai Hutsumi. My teacher stated he told people that they could not go to Japan and learn from hutsumi. However the dojo rarely turns people away unless they insult the school, or dis obey the code. Ninjutsu is very complicated because there are IGA people , and Koka people who have scrolls dating back way before Toka Ryu. IGA and Koka clans had treaties with Shoguns, and ninjas on demand. In the old ninja scrolls there are a lot of ninja spells, poison teaching, and code of conduct. Shinobi No mono is warfare than what we think of as a martial art. female ninja were called Kinuwichi.
Great interview, I'd be curious to hear about his shugendo training, buddhist ordination and how he developed the blue lotus society. I know alot of people are confused about his lineage and affiliations in that regard.
I and my some of my family train in Taijutsu and Jujitsu. I we really love it, we really couldn't care less what people say when they accuse it of being 'fake' I can't believe it is, there is just to much there and it is far to deep, but when people like Anthony cummings call out the image of the Shinobi created in the movies compared to the reality, I have to agree with him, and appreciate it. I have looked into the history of it and the truth is far more interesting than the movies, and really quite hard its like a massive puzzle to put together.
A. Cumins is an Hatsumi hater. The reason is that he went to his dojo with no recomendation, hopping to be receive with great honnor. The truth is many people go there for wrong reasons, so with out recomendation no ones gives a shit for you. Then he started his "chinese revenge". That's the all story. About the black ninja guy, well, the first american ninja was Ronald Duncan, a black dude. One of his disciples is Karim A. Ali. Chek up his yt chanel!
Cummins went there expecting five star red carpet treatment & he wanted to train for free. He was & still is ignorant to culture differences. Someone I know was Training with Hatsumi's group @ that time & witnessed it first hand. Some people feel self entitled & feel the rest of the world need to conform to their standards & every whim. Cummins is one of those unrealistic self absorbed knobs. He was politely told to get lost & he's been on a hate campaign ever since. If you want a good laugh there are videos of Cummins running around with a Katana & you can clearly see he has absolutely no idea what he is doing. As for his books ... Copyright infringements. He has just lifted information from other's books. People rant about Frank Dux being a fraud? Dux is a Saint compared to Cummins. The people he claims to work with in Japan view him as a mentally challenged person. If Cummins is a legitimate researcher & martial artist then I'm Jesus Christ & anyone that know's me well will tell you I'm anything but holy 😏
@@roninnotasheeplikeyou.2631Yes, A. Cummins demanded to see Hatsumi's scrolls and was denied because why would he need to show this twat his scrolls???Who is he?
Top job, this channel gets better and better. Well done David, your interviewing is always great, and draws forth some of the most interesting stories. Great to see Stephen again too, he seems to have enjoyed this for sure, great stories of the old days, and Bujinkan, and To Shin Do. I’ve got a few of his old and more recent books, but I’ve always enjoyed his outlook on the history and legacy of the of ninjutsu. I’ve got some of Antony Cummins books also: Book of Ninja, Bansenshukai and a few others. Interesting 🤔 books but I think either way the practical ways of what we see in the books is actually an eye opener to how clever the people of the older days were.
Where's your source? A source that's easily googleable. Antony Cummins is the one who was kicked of the Bujinkan and since then has been on a mission to "disprove" it.
lol, Hayes is hilarious. I know what he is getting at but man, he really comes off as a salesman. He's also watered down a lot of what he learned but I like the fact that he tried to make it more functional at least. Most of us do anyway but stay true to the organization that gave us the knowledge in the first place. We just do it with less colorfoul belts, titles etc. Toshindo feels to me like a kid dojo if I am honest. But credit to Hayes for selling this world wide. Without him, the Bujinkan would not have grown like it did no question.
Koka Ryu ninjutsu is still alive. The ninja or sninobi no mono were out of IGA and Shiga. Togaryu is sometimes disputed because it was not located in IGA kook regions.
I think I read every article in every issue of Black Belt, and at least two other magazines in which Steven Hayes was featured. It's such vindication to learn that he is legit. He did train with Japanese in Japan. It's the same vindication I had when I finally learned that Van Damme was a legit martial artist who competed and won. I remember having arguments with people about both guys, because back in the 80's there were no records available to Americans.
But as someone who studied Kenpo Karate for many months. And who is an enthusiast, and truly fascinated with all combat arts, armed or unarmed, you learn to be able to tell when someone is legit, or just well choreographed. I knew Wesley Snipes was a legit martial artist long before it was easy to google it. You can tell by the way they move. The way they throw a punch. Most people will put their own flare into it. But you can see the underlying mechanics at work. You can see training when it's being used.
Loving these Stephen K Hayes interviews. An absolute joy, the man is a legend. Bit late to the party but I wondered if he was a fan of Sho Kosugi and whats his opinion of Ashida Kim ?
I signed up for one of Mr. Hayes' seminars back in the day but I had to back out last minute due to family obligation. After that I never bothered chasing down Ninjutsu. By then I had figured out that Ninja where the equivalent of today's special forces. So I decided to try out the Navy and Marines instead but that is an entirely different situation for another time.
@@varanid9 I refer you to another person he interviewed on here, who lived in Japan as I did. It’s absolutely made up…. Hatsumi was a judoka.. 99% of his students are Westerners why do you think that is? It’s nonsense…. The Viking samurai interviewed a special forces guy on here and it was a great interview.
@@varanid9 he was a Judoka teaching at a university campus. There is no such thing as Ninjitsu… it is a fantasy… I do believe he possesses real skills… but there is much better real fighters in Japan.
@Monkey God no they're not, his team doesn't understand old Japanese and don't understand the content, another thing is Anthony actually messes with the translations making them even less reliable. You're better off looking at Japanese research on ninja.
Love the crazy sword split apple demonstration story. Sounds totally made up and crazy, but you are like "but I never volunteered by the way" which legitimizes the story as real. As Kramer would say "a story like that's got to be true".
1:37 well that explains why it works for myself. 5 9, but I should be 6 2. Most of my height is my back 8:55 He says Ninjutsu is real, but it's not about combat and it was a scout MOS for samurai and ashigaru.
Antony Cummins does have a lot of knowledge about Ninjutsu but there is one thing that he lacks because this one thing was not written down and recorded on paper. This thing is actually called "Ninja Taijutsu". It is the Ninja's secret unarmed combat techniques and it is still taught to true Ninja practitioners todat. It contains techniques of bone breaking, organ and muscle attacks and throwing and joint lock techniques. A very lethal combat form indeed!
There's no debate to have Stephen K.Hayes. Anthony has been clear on the subject. Ninjutsu isnt a martial arts. It was a part of military strategy. Anthony even study with Hatsumi, who is basically a fraud. Hatsumi was teaching mix of jj / striking arts with no real sparring. Btw, Viking Samurai is a great skilled interviewer and martial artist.
@Viking Samurai: About Antony Cummins, he researched the historical Ninja and Nin Jutsu. The short version about what he found out: The Ninja wasn't the enemy of the Samurai, but were the espionage and infiltration troops of the Feudal Japanese armies, compossed out of Samurai and Ashigaru. They used the battlefield weapons and h2h fighting that they learned from their Samurai schools (for example: Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto-Ryu). Nin Jutsu was the additional art that composed the tools and tactics for espionage and infiltration. The Ninja were their era's Special Forces and just like present day Special Forces learn basic riffle usage and shooting during their infantry basics and not during their additional Special Forces training, the Ninja had weapons and h2h knowledge from their Samurai Ryu training. Natori Ryu is a gunpo (Military tactics) school, not a weapons and h2h Ko-Ryu. It should be trained besides a normal Ko-Ryu. Antony doesn't critique the "Ninja", he just informs that Nin Jutsu historical never ever was a h2h system, but that the historical Ninja used Yawara/Jiu Jitsu because most of them were Samurai. He has no problems if people rename their h2h system from Nin Jutsu to To-Shin Do or Tai Jutsu, heck he doesn't care if they want to keep the name Nin Jutsu, but once they make the claim that their present day h2h is historical Nin Jutsu (which it isn't) he will point that out with facts and evidence.
Cummins is a fraud. Presenting himself as a sole aka some kind of leader of a Ryu which is laughable. He cannot even speak basic Japanese & the vast majority of his so called research you have mentioned he has lifted & in a lot of cases word for word from the work of legitimate researchers in his dime store books "copyright infringement" In Japan those that know him feel he is touched in the head "mentally challenged" He has been played & led on a wild goose chase there & is clueless to that. He is not an expert on anything other than being able to fool impressionable individuals & that's it really. He needs to be on medication.
@@varanid9 Indeed and like Hayes said in the above video was that Antony came to Hayes defence. One of those cases was trouving the historical ancestor of the 'Ninjato'. In the past only Hatsumi's Bujikan used a 'Ninjato', although there were also two instances of a 'Ninjato' on traditional Samurai art. Unfortunate there was never an historical 'Ninjato' found. So it was thought that the two historical drawings of this sword were just the artists inception or lack of drawing talent. Hayes got a lot of flack from others passing a 'movie sword' designed by Hatsumi as historical over the years. Antony and his team found the first known image of a 'Ninjato' in a 1930s/1940s manga, so pre-dating Hatsumi's use and eventually found real historical examples mislabelled in Musea. The historical ancestor of the 'Ninjato' was a cheap sword build from cutting down Nodachi and Nagamaki with a bigger cheap square tsuba build to be used by lower ranked Ashigaru (foot soldiers). These swords never became family looms over time and eventually the blades ended up in Musea under pole arms. The only difference between an 'Ashigarugatana' and a 'Ninjato' is that a 'Ninjato''s blade is complete straight and an 'Ashigarugatana' has a very small curviture (3 mm or 1/8 inch to 5mm or 1/5 inch).
@@roninnotasheeplikeyou.2631 1) Antony re-established a died out Gunpo-Ryu with permission of decendants of the original founder, so ergo he is the soke of said school. That's how this works and he never claimed anything else. 2) He established a small research team that can speak present day and more important historical Japanese to help him. After they do the translation from historical Japanese to English, Antony adapts that translation to modern spoken English and present day contexts. You can't translate historical Japanese to English without taking historical contexts into account. 3) All the rest are just ad hominim attacks, which is a sign of weakness if you can only attack the messenger when you can't debate the facts with other facts, so this will be my last reply to you.
@@renegysenbergs3171 Nice try Anthony. I see you are here on one of your many accounts you use to pimp your fraudulent claims. You are not fooling anyone other than impressionable outcast that have read too many comic books.
Anothony cumins isn’t a ninja hater. He’s spent along time traveling to Japan getting documents to bring light to what real ninjutsu is. He discovered that like here in the Us Japan has a strong fantasy cartoon influence of ninjas. They were like cowboys here. And it was around long before Hayes went to Japan. Cumins thanks that Hayes’s teacher was just a guy that kept pushing the fantasy of ninjitsu and added to it.
No he's a fraud and a scammer, the only thing he "discovered" was already figured out by actual historians, someone like Friday have said to stay away from his books.
AC is a HATER! When you dedicate your career with the PRIMARY attempt to DISCREDIT the Bujinkan, then you are a HATER! Daishihan Sean Askew wrote a book called the "Hidden Lineage" which he has found Historical Evidence (I don't know why AC couldn't find this) that prove the Authenticity of the Bujinkan. Like what was said in the interview, how can a person morally attempt to discredit another when they attempt to resurrect a deceased ryuha?
What I don’t understand is why would an art that was made to fight in wars and one on one, have to be altered to allow it to deal with violence in a modern setting? People still only have two arms, two legs, and one head. Even if people in a modern society do things differently, an art built to fight like this supposedly is, should be able to handle it. After all, very narrow systems built purely for war still exist and work equally well in the modern world, an example of that is Fairburns system of unarmed and weapons fighting. I have been training in the MA for 42 years, that’s not a lot compared to some people, but those years have given me a bit of an insight into what works and what doesn’t.
People even in the 60's and 70's were doing that cutting the apple or fruit things and stopping just before hitting the person. People did this on their own without going to Japan. Just copying stuff. I am not exactly sure but I think Counte Dante did this kind of stuff as well.
I didn’t quite understand the ideology behind how one guy could just don a different uniform and teach the latest trends, yet it was deemed impossible for the Japanese teacher to have just done the same thing? Isn’t that just a biased logic?
based on okinawan history of systems all were "mixed" martial arts as they incorporate grappling to some extent, definitely joint manipulation, and weapons as well as your typical karate techniques. For me the only true non-mixed system is boxing and pure wrestling with no chokes or locks. I began my training in the 80s during the kung fu craze, then the karate kid phase and then the ninja phase so i also watched some instructors "evolve" with the current trend of the time...lol..love this interview
I'm a 43 year old black america man, and I grew up in the 80's. Stephen K Hayes is correct when he said "everyone back in the 80's wanted to be a ninja". Because myself, my older brother and our friends all wanted to be Ninjas in the 80's. Sho Kosugi was one of my favorite martial arts actor's besides Van Damme and Jackie Chan that I saw on VHS tapes back in the 80's. Stephen K Hayes Is correct when he said MMA was not as normal back in the 80's. I was born in 79 and my brother in 77 and my sister in 75. None of us 80's kids never heard of MMA back then. Great video Viking Samurai.
Get this: the unsung catalyst for the 80's ninja craze can be direct tied with the cheapened vhs players. Before then we had to rely on HBO.
I love sho kosugi miss that guy
@@mritorto1 Sho made some cool moves, my uncle met him at LAX in the 90s, told me he was a very nice fellow .😀
What never hurd of no holds bard
N.HB
In the 1970s, everyone was KUNG-FU FIGHTING!
The pic with Masaaki Hatsume hit me in the feels. I grew up reading these guys books in the library.
I enjoy his sense of humor and his knowledge of martial arts. Great interview 🙏
I had the pleasure of meeting him one time at the MIA convention in Vegas , as someone who trains mma / bjj , I was absolutely impressed with his techniques and his way of being a good man . Respect
Incredible interview. We can learn so much, feel inspired and be entertained all at once.
It would be really valuable to have both of them interviewed. Ninjutsu it's still really obscure to many people.
Only because the people not want learn about real shinobi no jutsu.
Humble, diplomatic, and respectful as always.. Mr Hayes, you are a treasure!
I think I could listen to these 2 guys talk all day
Definitely one of my favorite interviews to date
I'm very inspired by his humility and even with his 50+ years of experience, you can tell that he has no need to show off his skills nor techniques. And I have yet to hear him claim that he fought 500 plus people in some underground kumite or that he was called by the CIA to be on a special mission to save God knows who from XY danger, etc.
This gentleman is one that I can totally listen to and actually be in awe and have respect for, because like he said in the last video, life is too short to be arguing over petty things or trying to prove how badass they are.
Thank you, David. Its videos like these that I truly appreciate and get inspired to become a version of myself each and every day.
And yes, I've encountered folks in the past when I was growing up in Puerto Rico that claimed they were XY Shotokán Ninja and for some reason, they always had to carry a ninja star or a pair on nunchucks with them wherever they went. Im surprised they never got arrested for carrying them, since we all know, they are weapons-lol!!
Anyway, once again, thank you.
This is one of your best interviews ever He's a legend I used to read all his stuff in black belt magazine this guy looks like he's down to earth All I can say you're ending the year awesome keep up the great work brother I just hope you get that Van Damme interview but you're doing awesome keep going forward can't wait who's next
Awesome content keep it coming.
I have to say. I definitely pre-judged Steven Hayes these interviews has definitely change my perception about him this guy is legit in his own right .
Another awesome interview Viking. I used to read Stephen Hayes books back in the 90's, at a Walden's Book store. Hayes books had the best cover art work. Glad he talked about those "KARATE PLUS GUYS" aka Talented MARTIAL artist who lie, to get students.
This interview is getting better and better. Great job!
WHOA! There is a part IV? Niceeeee! Can't wait.
I myself was my local neighbourhood ninja as a kid. I trained in karate but after seeing the movie "American ninja " and the tv show" master ninja" transformed myself into a ninja complete with throwing starts, nunchucks, dart gun, and ninja outfit.
My friends were amazed at my new found ninja prowess and were often on the receiving end of my ninja stars and various weapons.
My ninja training lasted a few years... until the movie " kickboxer" came out.
Your friends were often on the receiving end of your ninja stars and various weapons?? LOL! Bet they loved you!
@@varanid9 yeah they were the victims of my expertise.
Did you go Thailand and train?
@@devriestown Japan. Where only official ninjas train.
Back in grade school, a couple of chums and I dreamed about living in Japan to becomes ninjas. Sadly 40 years later, this dream still exists.
This Stephen seems to be a real grounded dude.☺👍
I've loved all three of the interviews! Thank you David!
Been in the arts since 1966 i have seen alot of crazy stuff out there but i want to concur mr haye’s experiance with the instructor he spoke about i have ran across someone that would change his school based on what was popular with public and promoted himself…. Its crazy but humorous…!!!
I'm ex military and served from 1980 - '85 loved it went all over Asia and was lucky enough to train in all kinds of martial arts, and anytime they had a martial artist come on base I'd try to be the first one there!😀Also I did bodybuilding, and powerlifting in the Navy, you can get exposed to alot things in the military, lot of people never take advantage of it, but I love fitness and martial arts, I still practice to this day, I'm in my 60s and if I miss a workout I get depressed - it's something I love to do. Stephen Hayes is an interesting man he worked out in Japan , just like Steven Seagal , I wonder if they ever met?
They did at a Dalai Lama function.
@@VikingSamurai both of them are connected to the Dalai Lama, and both are good in their respective arts . Love your Channel you always have great guests on, and good subjects.🥋❤
Pretty brilliant guy, I envy his life in a way in the sense he explored these incredible things a lot of us can only dream of, really enjoyed learning through this interview Viking, thank you 🙏
Quite brilliant. At one time he was the head body guard for the Dahli Llama.
Great stuff!!! :) I'm really looking forward to Part 4!
Best interview you’ve done ! Love this ! Great job doing the interview 🤙
Look forward to the next episode! Brilliant!
I know it sounds dorky, but TMNT is what started it all for me. What was it, 1988? Then the movie in 1990. Gave me this ninja desires lol. That led to the discovery of American Ninja the movies at the video store and then I was obsessed. Made my first nunchucks by chopping up my mom's broom handle.
Not dorky at all, the original ninja turtles movie is still awesome
Mr. Hayes is a smart, centered, practical martial arts teacher. Much respect to him and his work throughout the years!
Stephen as well as Simon Yeo are two of my fave martial arts writers, Stephen talked about not limiting yourself and Simon about adding skill sets like BJJ/judo to your martial arts practice.
I trained with Simon in Japan
@@Andulsi what happened?
What was the training like?
@@devriestown pretty good. Enjoyable training.
@Viking Samurai you are so blessed as we all are .But this journey with you through your journalism and interviews has been amazing , Who would have known you would be doing such amazing interviews with all these awesome people . Thank you :)
VS, the way you ended part 3 with that question was awesome! Just when I thought we were done, it took a whole new turn. Your interviews are the best.
Building some hype for that next episode! Lol
@@VikingSamurai I love it!
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Whos your number 1 favourite action star hero Bro?
Hey Bro If you see this message I downloaded Nicegram but I don't guess I have quite figured out how to use it because I haven't been able to find you yet
@@justinmartens1890 thats fake, this kind of thing has been happening to a lot of youtube channels unfornately, these fake messages... I'm not on Nicegram, please ignore any message if it looks like it came from me on there.
@@VikingSamurai ten-four that actually makes allot more sense. You know things are going pretty well when you have weirdos impersonating you & stalking the chats
@@deemc7756 hard question! who's yours?
The man is a Legend. Still looking sharp at his age.
Ninjutsu is just cool, and if you have a good teacher, it's basically the best self-defense art.
I trained "Ninjutsu" with a Military guy who basically taught a mix of Hapkido/Karate/TKD/Jiu-Jitsu plus some weapons occasionally and called it Ninjitsu.
I trained in the 80s as a teen our Semsei was a man who had an Asian furniture store in our neighborhood, but I read EVERY ONE of Hayes' and Hatsumi's books and was deeply inspired by his writing. Thank you sir.
Why doesn't anyone ever ask Steven Hayes about Ronald Duncan: the very first Ninjutsu master teaching in the United States?
Because they love this bogus fantasy Island garbage and they will never give black people the credit
Hello, Viking Samurai. I'm telling you, this interview is complete fire. The rate in which you get these interviews, how many you have on the shelf, is truly impressive and very entertaining, not to mention, educational.
TERRANCE OUT
Every interview I learn something new this is an amazing channel only one of its kind keep up the good work 👍
We need the Sho Kosugi interview. 🥷
Even in the 80s, cross training was not a thing, let alone MMA which did not exist. Puts into perspective just how revolutionary Bruce Lee's thoughts and ideas were in the 60s through to the 70s before his untimely passing.
Nar not my city in new Zealand.
In the 90s as a kid no mma or we got N.H.B no holds bard.
We had people who crossed trained boxing judo kickboxing karate wrestling c.q.b even muay thai kickboxing.
But no full mma school's.
You got Stephen Hayes! Do you know how many books I had of this man in the 80’s along with all the ninja gear you could still purchase legally at the time? Amazing!
Stephen Hayes was the complete antithesis of the other popular ninja author at the time -the infamous Ashida Kim
Lol
@@ericrecano8557 Careful…Ashida may be reading this and spring out on you from the shadows.
Lmaoo! Believe it or not I actually put down a high school football bully using a technique I learned from an Ashida Kim ninja book on how to escape a headlock so I really should bash him too much :)
@@ericrecano8557 He does have the secret of “the Dim Mak.”
I'm 60, from Australia 🇦🇺 I've doing Martial arts all my life, I'm one stripe away from my black belt in BJJ, never got to try Ninjitsu I'm going to the Philippines next year. To start my own school, want to showcase as many different Martial arts as possible. I still have some of Steve's books, this really was inspiring.
Would love to see a discussion with Stephen Hayes and Antony Cummins.
I tried setting that up but Stephen Hayes wasn't interested.
@@VikingSamurai Yea he didn't seem interested. That's too bad.
I would really hope Stephen would back Masaaki Hatsumi/Takamatsu.
@@jessek437 theres beef between them?
Great interview series!
If you get Anthony, you should bring in Sean Askew to counterpoint.
Get Richard Van Donk and Noguchi in the conversation. Would love to see a round table discussion with Stephen and these fellows.
Yesss - Sean Askew Vs. Anthoney Cummins !!!
In the 80s I thought I was a NINJA and I never took any martial arts. Never was in a fight. Had the balance of town drunk..lol.. I'll be 51 Nov 30th I'm still a NINJA! lol!
Why haven't we mentioned the late Prof. Ronald Duncan, who was teaching shinobi no mono since the 50's?
Because they are racist and never mention black martial artist. They try to brush it off or speak vague of blacks
Stephen k Hayes deserves his Netflix series about his life
Very good value Interview !!!
Thanks for asking my question about The FBI academy!
I remember reading NNJUTSU THE ART OF THE INVISIBLE WARRIOR as a kid ,and there was a pretty advanced section ( for an 80s martial arts book )on firearm disarmament tactics and VIP escorting .
I always wondered where the hell he learned that from , because it never resurfaced in other works , and I knew there was no way he was getting that stuff from Hatsumi .
Fast forward years later and i attended a school in the military which had pretty similar tactics and ironically Around that time i happened upon Ninja Vol 6 , and Hayes vaguely mentions being invited to the academy to train .
The guy he mentioned who changed with the popularity (from karate to kung Fu to ninja), I bet is Ashida Kim
About 83 84 I trained out his books. I was very limber from kungfu PT. I tried karate and aikido at the ymca . For years not even with thought ive used these skills like second nature and its helped. I did gain alot of understanding. You know theres not alot to get your hands on its mostly family history thats tattered remaining
I remember Stephen well from the Martial arts mags. He comes across well in this interview, not at all bragging or tough guy very interesting. I also remember Robert Bussey another "ninja" I'd be interested to see him interviewed also. Great work as usual.
What Stephen is alluding to is "Taking a Seminar from someone and studying with them on a daly basis are two very diffrent things."
It would be good if u could interview the late Professor Ronald Duncan's son who carries on his legacy. Professor Ronald Duncan was demonstrating Ninjitsu in the 1960s at least 15 years before Stephen K. Hayes respectfully.
Viking Samurai your “neighborhood ninja” seems legitimate to me! Sword cutting is still a high-level skill, welding a sword does take time to be precise.
Way back when Mr. Hayes was in Atlanta I believe, and it was very early in his career, I received a "1st Order" certificate from him, and it was described as equivalent to a green or blue belt. I unfortunately do not have it anymore, I wish I did.
I went to Someya-Dojo way back in 1988 during the big ninja craze of the 80's and was disappointed to find it in a small industrial town (Noda-shi) which smelt of soya sauce (Kikkoman's main factory was there). I trained with a few of the main teachers like Shiraishi-sensei and Ishizuka-sensei. Hatsumi-Soke's classes cost 3,000 yen a class as I recall. Ishizuka-sensei rented me a box (like a cargo crate) with broken windows (covered with newspaper) for 30,000 yen a month. No bathroom or anything. I washed my face in freezing water in an outdoor sink. Not the best of times. I ended up getting a job and moving away to a real apartment in a different part of Chiba-Ken, and only trained sporadically with Shiraishi-sensei after that.
What was the training like???
Sounds like you quit before your big training montage 😅😅😅
@@devriestown For some reason (movies??), I was expecting meditating under waterfalls, but for the most part it was watching Hatsumi-Soke demonstrate a technique, then pairing up and practising it. There was a guy from Israel (I think) who would translate for Hatsumi-Soke. I remember Hastumi-soke defeating a bunch of guys with an orange. Teaching point: anything can be a weapon.
@@martinrenner2992 wow that's pretty crazy my friend back in the day went to Brazil to train jiu jitsu he slept at the academy for one year trained three times a day lol
That box sucked. Wonder if he still rents it?
Ronald Duncan was black and he was doing koga ninjutsu before the 80's.
I read his books in the 80s. What a flashback. What a great guy.
Love this.
not sure, but sounds like Viking Samurai is talking about Ronald Duncan. Black dude, I beleive he was military and I've seen some of his demos in videos. Not legit ninjutsu, but he was def one of the big names out there.
Bless his ❤️
Amazing, just amazing interview.
I'm not even sad that Ashida Kim wasn't mentioned
LOL, that's who I was wondering it was as well.
Doron Navon - The first foreign Bujinkan Shihan He open First Ninja school in Israel in 1976. In Japanese Shin He received his 5th degree black belt in Bujinkan. So he studied in Japan before Steven Hayes. I am a budjinkan Black Belt. In the Budjinkan society Steven is not looked up to because he claimed to be the first foreign teacher of Maasai Hutsumi. My teacher stated he told people that they could not go to Japan and learn from hutsumi. However the dojo rarely turns people away unless they insult the school, or dis obey the code. Ninjutsu is very complicated because there are IGA people , and Koka people who have scrolls dating back way before Toka Ryu. IGA and Koka clans had treaties with Shoguns, and ninjas on demand. In the old ninja scrolls there are a lot of ninja spells, poison teaching, and code of conduct. Shinobi No mono is warfare than what we think of as a martial art. female ninja were called Kinuwichi.
Great interview, I'd be curious to hear about his shugendo training, buddhist ordination and how he developed the blue lotus society. I know alot of people are confused about his lineage and affiliations in that regard.
I and my some of my family train in Taijutsu and Jujitsu. I we really love it, we really couldn't care less what people say when they accuse it of being 'fake' I can't believe it is, there is just to much there and it is far to deep, but when people like Anthony cummings call out the image of the Shinobi created in the movies compared to the reality, I have to agree with him, and appreciate it. I have looked into the history of it and the truth is far more interesting than the movies, and really quite hard its like a massive puzzle to put together.
A. Cumins is an Hatsumi hater. The reason is that he went to his dojo with no recomendation, hopping to be receive with great honnor. The truth is many people go there for wrong reasons, so with out recomendation no ones gives a shit for you. Then he started his "chinese revenge". That's the all story. About the black ninja guy, well, the first american ninja was Ronald Duncan, a black dude. One of his disciples is Karim A. Ali. Chek up his yt chanel!
Cummins went there expecting five star red carpet treatment & he wanted to train for free. He was & still is ignorant to culture differences.
Someone I know was Training with Hatsumi's group @ that time & witnessed it first hand.
Some people feel self entitled & feel the rest of the world need to conform to their standards & every whim. Cummins is one of those unrealistic self absorbed knobs.
He was politely told to get lost & he's been on a hate campaign ever since.
If you want a good laugh there are videos of Cummins running around with a Katana & you can clearly see he has absolutely no idea what he is doing.
As for his books ... Copyright infringements. He has just lifted information from other's books.
People rant about Frank Dux being a fraud?
Dux is a Saint compared to Cummins.
The people he claims to work with in Japan view him as a mentally challenged person.
If Cummins is a legitimate researcher & martial artist then I'm Jesus Christ & anyone that know's me well will tell you I'm anything but holy 😏
@@roninnotasheeplikeyou.2631Yes, A. Cummins demanded to see Hatsumi's scrolls and was denied because why would he need to show this twat his scrolls???Who is he?
Top job, this channel gets better and better. Well done David, your interviewing is always great, and draws forth some of the most interesting stories.
Great to see Stephen again too, he seems to have enjoyed this for sure, great stories of the old days, and Bujinkan, and To Shin Do. I’ve got a few of his old and more recent books, but I’ve always enjoyed his outlook on the history and legacy of the of ninjutsu.
I’ve got some of Antony Cummins books also: Book of Ninja, Bansenshukai and a few others. Interesting 🤔 books but I think either way the practical ways of what we see in the books is actually an eye opener to how clever the people of the older days were.
I would like to see you interview Robert Bussey
This man was KICKED OUT of the bujinkan he's the last person to talk to about this stuff 😂
Where's your source? A source that's easily googleable. Antony Cummins is the one who was kicked of the Bujinkan and since then has been on a mission to "disprove" it.
Safe to say Master Hayes is not going to waste his time getting into a pointless debate with special ed Cummins.
I do not blame him.
Daron Navon from Israel was in Japan before S.Hayes. I’d like to hear Stevens thoughts on arts loosing their Jutsu and now being more Do.
Good too see Viking upload! Im in Colombia drinking up and still tune in to see whats good!
The American Kyuki-do Federation has been doing mixed martial arts since Grandmaster Ken Ok-Yung Kim introduced it in Elgin, Illinois in 1967.
lol, Hayes is hilarious. I know what he is getting at but man, he really comes off as a salesman. He's also watered down a lot of what he learned but I like the fact that he tried to make it more functional at least. Most of us do anyway but stay true to the organization that gave us the knowledge in the first place. We just do it with less colorfoul belts, titles etc. Toshindo feels to me like a kid dojo if I am honest. But credit to Hayes for selling this world wide. Without him, the Bujinkan would not have grown like it did no question.
Koka Ryu ninjutsu is still alive. The ninja or sninobi no mono were out of IGA and Shiga. Togaryu is sometimes disputed because it was not located in IGA kook regions.
in the 80's I tried kuk sool won because it seemed to combine everything and was good stress relief
I think I read every article in every issue of Black Belt, and at least two other magazines in which Steven Hayes was featured.
It's such vindication to learn that he is legit. He did train with Japanese in Japan.
It's the same vindication I had when I finally learned that Van Damme was a legit martial artist who competed and won.
I remember having arguments with people about both guys, because back in the 80's there were no records available to Americans.
But as someone who studied Kenpo Karate for many months. And who is an enthusiast, and truly fascinated with all combat arts, armed or unarmed, you learn to be able to tell when someone is legit, or just well choreographed.
I knew Wesley Snipes was a legit martial artist long before it was easy to google it.
You can tell by the way they move. The way they throw a punch.
Most people will put their own flare into it. But you can see the underlying mechanics at work.
You can see training when it's being used.
All this reminds Europeans on Keith Kernspecht, who popularized and re-invented Wing Chun.
I love them both but the debate would be super neat 😊
Loving these Stephen K Hayes interviews. An absolute joy, the man is a legend. Bit late to the party but I wondered if he was a fan of Sho Kosugi and whats his opinion of Ashida Kim ?
I believe he and Sho are good friends. I don't know about Ashida Kim lol
I signed up for one of Mr. Hayes' seminars back in the day but I had to back out last minute due to family obligation. After that I never bothered chasing down Ninjutsu. By then I had figured out that Ninja where the equivalent of today's special forces. So I decided to try out the Navy and Marines instead but that is an entirely different situation for another time.
How about a interview about. Ron duncan or don draeger who wrote a book about 'ninjutsu the art of invisibility ' before hayes??.😊
I wonder if he actually believes this.. hatsumi was a judoka… a businessman and a con artist.
Can't say if they were from a genuine Ninja ryu, but then where did he learn his Koryu arts? Because I can assure you they are real, not "made up".
@@varanid9 I refer you to another person he interviewed on here, who lived in Japan as I did. It’s absolutely made up…. Hatsumi was a judoka.. 99% of his students are Westerners why do you think that is? It’s nonsense…. The Viking samurai interviewed a special forces guy on here and it was a great interview.
@@carlobella1850First, his old training pics show ALL his students as apparently Japanese. Second, that doesn't explain where he learned what he did.
@@varanid9 he was a Judoka teaching at a university campus. There is no such thing as Ninjitsu… it is a fantasy… I do believe he possesses real skills… but there is much better real fighters in Japan.
Awesome work
Adoro seu canal. Por favor, tente uma entrevista com Robert Bussey, um dos melhores artistas marciais do Ninjutsu dos anos 80,90.
I'm really enjoying this interview with Stephen K. Hayes. Do you have any plans to interview Antony Cummins?
Hopefully he doesn't the less exposure the guy gets the better.
@@eagle162 Because he's a secret ninja?
@@varanid9 because he's an unreliable source.
@Monkey God no, I don't like the Bujinkan or Anthony, both deserve to be ignored completely.
@Monkey God no they're not, his team doesn't understand old Japanese and don't understand the content, another thing is Anthony actually messes with the translations making them even less reliable.
You're better off looking at Japanese research on ninja.
Love the crazy sword split apple demonstration story. Sounds totally made up and crazy, but you are like "but I never volunteered by the way" which legitimizes the story as real. As Kramer would say "a story like that's got to be true".
I've seen that demo more than once. Never saw it in someone's back yard, though.
1:37 well that explains why it works for myself. 5 9, but I should be 6 2. Most of my height is my back
8:55
He says Ninjutsu is real, but it's not about combat and it was a scout MOS for samurai and ashigaru.
Antony Cummins does have a lot of knowledge about Ninjutsu but there is one thing that he lacks because this one thing was not written down and recorded on paper. This thing is actually called "Ninja Taijutsu". It is the Ninja's secret unarmed combat techniques and it is still taught to true Ninja practitioners todat. It contains techniques of bone breaking, organ and muscle attacks and throwing and joint lock techniques. A very lethal combat form indeed!
RONALD DUNCAN was doing ninjitsu !!! All the real martial artist sparred and proved themselves.
There's no debate to have Stephen K.Hayes.
Anthony has been clear on the subject. Ninjutsu isnt a martial arts. It was a part of military strategy. Anthony even study with Hatsumi, who is basically a fraud. Hatsumi was teaching mix of jj / striking arts with no real sparring.
Btw, Viking Samurai is a great skilled interviewer and martial artist.
Ninjutshoe... Not Shure what it is, but I love it!
@Viking Samurai: About Antony Cummins, he researched the historical Ninja and Nin Jutsu. The short version about what he found out: The Ninja wasn't the enemy of the Samurai, but were the espionage and infiltration troops of the Feudal Japanese armies, compossed out of Samurai and Ashigaru. They used the battlefield weapons and h2h fighting that they learned from their Samurai schools (for example: Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto-Ryu). Nin Jutsu was the additional art that composed the tools and tactics for espionage and infiltration. The Ninja were their era's Special Forces and just like present day Special Forces learn basic riffle usage and shooting during their infantry basics and not during their additional Special Forces training, the Ninja had weapons and h2h knowledge from their Samurai Ryu training.
Natori Ryu is a gunpo (Military tactics) school, not a weapons and h2h Ko-Ryu. It should be trained besides a normal Ko-Ryu.
Antony doesn't critique the "Ninja", he just informs that Nin Jutsu historical never ever was a h2h system, but that the historical Ninja used Yawara/Jiu Jitsu because most of them were Samurai. He has no problems if people rename their h2h system from Nin Jutsu to To-Shin Do or Tai Jutsu, heck he doesn't care if they want to keep the name Nin Jutsu, but once they make the claim that their present day h2h is historical Nin Jutsu (which it isn't) he will point that out with facts and evidence.
Cummins is a fraud. Presenting himself as a sole aka some kind of leader of a Ryu which is laughable.
He cannot even speak basic Japanese & the vast majority of his so called research you have mentioned he has lifted & in a lot of cases word for word from the work of legitimate researchers in his dime store books "copyright infringement"
In Japan those that know him feel he is touched in the head "mentally challenged"
He has been played & led on a wild goose chase there & is clueless to that.
He is not an expert on anything other than being able to fool impressionable individuals & that's it really.
He needs to be on medication.
Hayes says here that what he teaches isn't historical Nin Jutsu.
@@varanid9 Indeed and like Hayes said in the above video was that Antony came to Hayes defence.
One of those cases was trouving the historical ancestor of the 'Ninjato'. In the past only Hatsumi's Bujikan used a 'Ninjato', although there were also two instances of a 'Ninjato' on traditional Samurai art. Unfortunate there was never an historical 'Ninjato' found. So it was thought that the two historical drawings of this sword were just the artists inception or lack of drawing talent. Hayes got a lot of flack from others passing a 'movie sword' designed by Hatsumi as historical over the years. Antony and his team found the first known image of a 'Ninjato' in a 1930s/1940s manga, so pre-dating Hatsumi's use and eventually found real historical examples mislabelled in Musea. The historical ancestor of the 'Ninjato' was a cheap sword build from cutting down Nodachi and Nagamaki with a bigger cheap square tsuba build to be used by lower ranked Ashigaru (foot soldiers). These swords never became family looms over time and eventually the blades ended up in Musea under pole arms. The only difference between an 'Ashigarugatana' and a 'Ninjato' is that a 'Ninjato''s blade is complete straight and an 'Ashigarugatana' has a very small curviture (3 mm or 1/8 inch to 5mm or 1/5 inch).
@@roninnotasheeplikeyou.2631
1) Antony re-established a died out Gunpo-Ryu with permission of decendants of the original founder, so ergo he is the soke of said school. That's how this works and he never claimed anything else.
2) He established a small research team that can speak present day and more important historical Japanese to help him. After they do the translation from historical Japanese to English, Antony adapts that translation to modern spoken English and present day contexts. You can't translate historical Japanese to English without taking historical contexts into account.
3) All the rest are just ad hominim attacks, which is a sign of weakness if you can only attack the messenger when you can't debate the facts with other facts, so this will be my last reply to you.
@@renegysenbergs3171 Nice try Anthony. I see you are here on one of your many accounts you use to pimp your fraudulent claims.
You are not fooling anyone other than impressionable outcast that have read too many comic books.
Anothony cumins isn’t a ninja hater. He’s spent along time traveling to Japan getting documents to bring light to what real ninjutsu is. He discovered that like here in the Us Japan has a strong fantasy cartoon influence of ninjas. They were like cowboys here. And it was around long before Hayes went to Japan. Cumins thanks that Hayes’s teacher was just a guy that kept pushing the fantasy of ninjitsu and added to it.
No he's a fraud and a scammer, the only thing he "discovered" was already figured out by actual historians, someone like Friday have said to stay away from his books.
AC is a HATER! When you dedicate your career with the PRIMARY attempt to DISCREDIT the Bujinkan, then you are a HATER!
Daishihan Sean Askew wrote a book called the "Hidden Lineage" which he has found Historical Evidence (I don't know why AC couldn't find this) that prove the Authenticity of the Bujinkan.
Like what was said in the interview, how can a person morally attempt to discredit another when they attempt to resurrect a deceased ryuha?
Facts.
What I don’t understand is why would an art that was made to fight in wars and one on one, have to be altered to allow it to deal with violence in a modern setting? People still only have two arms, two legs, and one head. Even if people in a modern society do things differently, an art built to fight like this supposedly is, should be able to handle it. After all, very narrow systems built purely for war still exist and work equally well in the modern world, an example of that is Fairburns system of unarmed and weapons fighting. I have been training in the MA for 42 years, that’s not a lot compared to some people, but those years have given me a bit of an insight into what works and what doesn’t.
Should have asked him what daily training was like with Hatsumi in the 70s
Very good and hard
Your neighbor sounds like a cool dude ninja or not!
People even in the 60's and 70's were doing that cutting the apple or fruit things and stopping just before hitting the person. People did this on their own without going to Japan. Just copying stuff. I am not exactly sure but I think Counte Dante did this kind of stuff as well.
To be blunt you're better off not listening to the Bujinkan organization or Anthony.
@Vegan Higler you asking the organization or Anthony?
Great job with this interview, Viking Samurai! Stephen K. hayes is a fascinating martial artist 💪👏👍✌️
I didn’t quite understand the ideology behind how one guy could just don a different uniform and teach the latest trends, yet it was deemed impossible for the Japanese teacher to have just done the same thing? Isn’t that just a biased logic?
based on okinawan history of systems all were "mixed" martial arts as they incorporate grappling to some extent, definitely joint manipulation, and weapons as well as your typical karate techniques. For me the only true non-mixed system is boxing and pure wrestling with no chokes or locks. I began my training in the 80s during the kung fu craze, then the karate kid phase and then the ninja phase so i also watched some instructors "evolve" with the current trend of the time...lol..love this interview
LOL believe it or not boxing has evolved the rules and from bear knuckle.
Same with Olympic wrestling.
Go back the rules were way different.