The Warning | Vampire: The Masquerade - L.A. By Night | Season 2 Episode 6
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- The Anarch Barons of L.A. meet to decide how to deal with the Camarilla's demands.
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L.A. By Night is a dark tale of personal horror and inhuman conspiracy that sees four vampires doing their best to navigate the macabre affairs and terrifying realities of the night. - Zábava
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Whoever is in charge of casting for this show, give them a damn raise.
i second this
For reals. Nines is not only spot on but damn is he hot
@@Duomaxwell2009 Not as hot as Eva...or Nelli ...or Ib ...Oh you don't mean hot like that.
@@bartconnolly6104 yep he is supersexy
Like i thought i had one favorite character but honestly, i love everyone, even the ones that make me kinda upset lol.
Therese: My sister is the worst
All the other barons: Well if you don't want her, we'll be happy to have her hang with us, she's pretty cool
I actually love that about the actress for Therese. That's how I think she would feel. Anger, and a touch of jealousy, if people wants her "sister" to be around more than her. Considering their condition..
@@pepethefrog6809 I mean, that Malkavian has a very DEEP insanity, she has literally two personalities perfectly aware of each other with a sibiling relationship inside her body, but when you get besides that point, individually, they both Therese and Jeanette are quite sane. Two very sane personalities and highly conscious of being two entities in a shared body only that is actually one crazy kindred.
As much as I like Jeanette and dislike Therese, I cant help but think about them of two very sane Toreador and Ventrue respectively. But no. They are not a Toreador and Ventrue sisters, they are a crazy single Malkavian
Sorry for the rant, I jsut cant imagine Jeanette in the same body than Therese.
@@onemoregodrejected9369 I see the exact opposite. The coolest thing about Tourette is that she has 3 derangements: dissociative personality disorder, obviously, but also obsessive compulsions for perfection expressed in Therese and nymphomania in Jeanette. It's important to note that, while they are aware of each other, they don't acknowledged at all being in the same body. Also, I'm pretty sure it's canon that they actually get along just fine at this point, but pretend not to, so as to deceive their enemies.
@@HenriqueErzinger Yes, it was shown a bit ahead that they still get along.
They have acknowledged in the past to be conscious of sharing the same body, Therese said so explicit in the VTMB game about being disgusted due having to live in the same body.
And sometimes they indeed act like they have two different bodies.
Given that is one hell of a crazy Malkie, probably "she" is too deranged to come to terms.
An interesting point is that even if Therese seems really controled, if you piss her off hard enought she starts to lose control and yell at you "You cant order me around, mother!!" or so (if I find a video I will link).
That malk is a pot of insanity like her sire, a vampire with two personalities trying to play jihad against each other, like Sherlock and Moriarty. Literally like that.
@@onemoregodrejected9369 I don't remember she saying anything about being one, even when confronted at the same time. Therese even threatens to kill her sister, and Jeanette is really afraid she'll do it, when they fight. I believe in one novel they are shown do be in really good terms after the events of the game and after Jeanette gets her own club.
victor: setities are sexier than toreadors
baron abrams: lasombra are as good leaders as ventrue
kill bill siren: sounds off in the distance
Nines : Aw shit. Here we go again.
Nothing about those statements are wrong.
Assamites: I honestly can't tell the difference between any of them; I just want them dead. Ur-Shulgi 4 lyfe.
Lasombra greater than Ventrue. Always
Jason Carl getting to sit at the table and fully play Abrams made this even better than I imagined. So badass.
Thank you! I was so nervous. Our players are incredible, they are improvising every second, and that is a very different kind of participation than Storytelling!
@@JasonCarl, I love the entire cast. The players are phenomenal and the story sucks you right in. You were great! Hopefully, you get to do this again. It's interesting seeing the Storyteller step right into the story. Also, thanks to this show I have a better understanding of VtM and I'm excited to finally play a game soon myself.
It was amazing to see Abrams in person and an elegant breaking of the fourth wall 👌🏼
Christ, Jason Carl can hit that "intimidate" button with a vengeance when he wants to.
Thanks! :D
He was so good that I screamed at the screen cussing him out for doing my boi Victor like that.
He's amazing.
@@tkschaaf7096 He's not YOUR boi. He's Fiorenza's.
@luke caruana aw yeah but I meant that he's me favourite character.
Which is weird since I rp as an Lasombra which as ya know, we of the shadows aren't Ventrue fans by any stretch.
@clarissa35f I don't think Victor is Fiorenza's childe. But she likes to say 'Victor my boy!'. Probably uses it for other subordinates too. Would you take a guess at who sired him?
Jason as Abrams is phenomenal. Fast, intimidating and witty responses to Temple, changing intonations and dynamics.
That roleplay is really impressive. I feel like Im learning 1st rate acting here :O
Thank you very much! It felt quite scary to have to try to do what our players do so easily every week, but it was fun and I felt that I learned a lot from the experience.
Matthew Dawkins has alot of useful clan guides. I liked how he impersonated a vampire while explaining the clan. He got me interested in VTM, after stumbling into one of his videos. It would be epic if he did a character for this show.
@Jimmy Jazz Both Jason and Matt have worked for VtM, there is a chance these two Alpha tested
Jimmy Jazz yeah iirc he’s a certain cappadocian named Richard de [something starting with a D or V]
Jason as Abrams in the first episode before they introduced other guests for characters was golden. If they had made it anyone else he would not have that same calm and collective yet menacing presence.
Victor's smartest comment was that he always assumed that there was a Nosferatu around. As both a player and storyteller, I pretty much lived by those rules. I had both PCs and NPCs who would perform utterly random acts with the utmost secrecy and randomness just to throw out false trails. I had a Giovanni character that rented a dozen storage units all over town and who would go to them on a set schedule to store random baubles. I had a Ventrue character who dismissed all of his ghouls and drove to a cemetery at the edge of the city and left flowers at a random grave.
Remember, when you look at nothing, you may be looking at a Nosferatu.
Well I played a Malkavian and I laught at the funny shoes of the Nosferatu tailing me.
"Let me make a note at that"
(aka I love it)
*The Nosferatu spy* "Oh this is gonna be... what is he doing with that garden gnome?"
The one with Ventrue seems like a huge security issue.. Distancing yourself from your own security and consistently go to a random isolated cemetery on the edge of town to place some flowers seems like a huge security risk..
And for what? You could track down the grave and identify the connection if there is any between the 2.
And if the grave changes each week then any followers would realize it is random however it still leaves the guy in the open.. All they do is follow him and wait for him to abandon his security and you follow him and can pretty much take a free shot at the guy.
The Giovanni guy is pretty brilliant as you can see when you are potentially conpromised when one of them opens perhaps.
But the Ventrue I dont see the point in his actions or am I missing something here?
@@DutchGabbers the Nosferatu are very clever when it comes to research and information; so I can understand what you're saying. Agreed about the Giovanni, I can imagine a Nosferatu getting pretty tired of following a dude whos just stocking random warehouses.
Nines: I am not a bad ass!
Me: ....
Nines: .....
Me: I'm sorry but have you even met yourself?
SaiyanPride He was probably pretty pumped up at that moment too
I’ve always seen Nines as the guy who knows how awesome he is, gets pumped up in the moment, but is otherwise humble about his achievements.
9s Knows he is not a badass because he met MC in Bloodlines 1
@D3athstroke yeah I hope they make a passing mention of the vtmb 1 protagonist some day.
@@tkschaaf7096 Honestly, with that beginning, if we had the option to be a Baron and Ventrue in Bloodlines, Victor could have fit in proper as the protag. Sitting at the table with Nines, Therese and Abrams lol, freaking perfect.
lmao the unanimous hate for chaz.
I gotta say that the actor playing him, nails it.
@@elderjuniormaster he is excellent.
@@elderjuniormaster if his job was to make us hate his character, he succeeds perfectly 😉
They are all just jealous.
He's so posh, pretty and elegant.
Smarmy too.
@@superdestructo 😂
man Carazo nailed Nines, what a powerhouse
Luis was just incredible! We are so fortunate to have him as our Nines!
Stannis Baratheon hey thank you!! I definitely enjoyed it.
Jason Carl awww thanks Jason
@@luiscarazo8438 You kind of reminded me of Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. 😉
Patrick Lyons I'll take that haha. 😉
When Nines talks about how he does not care about the land, but the ones on it.... Anabelle's look is one of pure love
Well, Nines after all, is that type of person. Just as Bertram Tung described him. He's the guy you want on your side.
@@pepethefrog6809 they’re also both Bruja. This type of work, this thought process, and this way of going about it, are the main reasons they were Embraced into this clan. This is what their clan is about. Not the chaotic rebels who do whatever they want, but Warrior Kings who spread philosophies that support both human and Kindred.
@@pastorTracy911 Almost all of the modern Brujah descended from Troile, the fiery and passionate usurper quite the opposite of their sire which was the original Brujah antediluvian where the True Brujah branched out from. The True Brujah's are the ones that embraced scholars and philosophers into their ever so waning fold, something that Troile followed but somewhere along the lines they became more about rebellion and free will. I think, only those who descended from Meneleus kept the warrior king, philosopher mindset. LOL
Annabelle was embraced because she was the convenient choice for Carver among her friend group who flipped off the authority.
Nines is probably the closest we get to a True Brujah, of course, without the emotional detachment that they have.
Love how Nines was played. He does have this air of heroism around him that sort of propagates without his intention. But he is a person, he's not some Che' Guevara who wants to lead the youth into the jaws of death. He wants his loved ones to be safe.
When they carved up Victor’s territory, I felt that anger too
I'm surprised that Victor didn't give up the information to the other Barons about Abrams being third party related to the Second Inquisition. The whole reason why Victor is Baron of the Valley.
Victor also had to pay for the gaff he did.
And their blaming him for the events of the Grove does not at all sit well with me. The Camarilla was going to make a move at some point anyways, he's just unlucky enough to be the scapegoat who was the first to have to deal with them so they pick on him. I know it was specifically Jasper who killed that Sheriff, but I believe the general way that situation went was justified if unfortunate.
Weston Anderson Indeed. Kindred are rarely fair
the fact they didnt even want to talk about the grove being a setup and just dismissed it and Abrams went straight to protecting Therese when it was brought up and Nines was intrested but didnt question furtherand they all stumbled over the lasombra and why it didnt attack,,,,it did its job watch what happens report back
I remember Abrams saying: "Fiona is unfit for rule, for a barony".
Not just you. Though I will say he added “not yet” to that sentence, and then handed Fiona an itty bitty piece of land. Probably to see how she does.
@@bookbook9495or she’s got something over him.
@@AnIdiotsLantern or she had something to give him. Doubt she has *nothing* he’d like to have.
Poor Victor, he is no longer the "undisputed" baron of the valley
But he's definitely doing a good job holding his own against the rest of them.
Not a fan of how this seems to be going since he's the only Baron standing up the Camarilla and their plan to take over the whole city. They others aren't acting like true Anarchs at all.
yeah, they're actually throwing the young ones to fight their battles, just like the camarilla. I don't think this will pass unseen, tho, the coterie is already aware of this, and once they deal with the camarilla there will probably have some confrontation to change the way anarchs are ruining things, and I'm reeeeaaally looking forward to see this! Also, I still suspect Abrams and/or Therese might be changing sides...
@@toshomni9478 But that's also to be expected. Part of the problems that they've had as Kindred is that the older you get the more conservative their responses are to challenges. Any changes that occur come from the young.
@@toshomni9478 lol, tragically, the really are acting like true Anarchs...
Baron Abrams: aw shit here we go again
LMAOOO
Nines outfit is on point .. even neck chain... 10\10. ...thank you.
Михаил Листов Dude hasn’t changed his outfit in at least 15 years. That’s the kind of stability you want in a leader ✊
Talking about outfit, i've found the cleavage of "Baron" Fiona most agressive!
@@Malkav65 I wonder if *he* washes his clothes...
Cifer He’d better not - that would display a serious lack of conviction 😤
When Nines picks a style he sticks with it..
Therese: what if they offer something completely irrefusable?
Me, remembering the ending of the last episode: OH NO
I thought exactly the same
If the Camirilla get a hold of Chloe, we can forget it. Jasper would do anything to protect her
@@verysaltykryptonite8593 ok it's somewhat implied that Fiona contacted her so the camarilla has little chance of getting her buuuuuut given the recent events and the barons being a bunch of ASSHOLES I'm very scared
@@YuriRamosBragaFerreira I guess you're right there and I'm scared too. What's their game? Are they working against Victors cotery? Why is Fiona sucking up to Chloe?
@@verysaltykryptonite8593 I do not think that she will embrace her... It is obvously that pretend to use her to manipulate Jasper
"I can say with some authority that underestimating me is a common character flaw." x) Victors best on lines so far imo
That was such a well played insult, I just had to smirk.
And that "Don't you guys have phones!" was just the beginning !
And that "Don't you guys have phones!" was just the beginning !
Yeah hopefully Abrams will get his soon enough.
No joke, he said it in real time right as I was reading this!
1:48:01 when Nines looks around the room after Victor says he always thinks that there are one or two Nosferatu in a room is the height of understated comedy to me, and no one will convince me otherwise.
Does anyone else have an even bigger crush on Jason Carl after seeing him play Abrams in full.... no... just me? Ok... I'll be over here...
Dude's legit af.
I can only dream of ever playing with a Storyteller like that.
Ew that's your Vampa :p
Yea that would be... So terrible. I'll be uh. Over there in that corner with you
YOU'RE NOT ALONE! Jasper, Chaz and Jason ❤❤❤
Baron Dady
Nines Rodrigues looks exactly like in the game.
His face is way different, looks younger in the game. But the outfit/hair/beard is pretty good.
@Halberdier It's been 15 years since the events of Bloodlines. I'd say that's more than enough time grow a full beard, even if you're dead.
@Halberdier Really? I didn't know the age condition included hair/nails/scars.
@Halberdier Who's to say Nines didn't die with a full beard and trimmed it up during VTMB? I want to say the vampire can spend a WP to keep scars/tattoos from night to night, but that could be in VTR.
Regardless his characterization was spot on
It's great that whenever Therese gets questioned about her authoritarian or Camarilla-ish style of governance she immediately goes for, what could crassly be called, the disability card. Very girl-boss feminism, which I do love about her character.
Yeah white woman feminism where you get to choose when you're a victim and when you're an oppressor.
I'm so happy that Jason Carl is the official actor for Baron Abrams. He does the role so well, and bringing in someone else just wouldn't have been the same...
I love how Abrams, Fiona, and Therese are on the other side of the table lambasting Victor, and Nines is just like... "I mean... I get it dude. It sucks. But I get it."
Their hug and baby head butt at 2:26:00 was so wholesome, and Jasper's lil growl/purr was so sweet. That's the good stuff vamily! I love Jasper and Annabelle's supportive and sassy sibling friendship, it fills me with joy.
Also it’s so cute he lets her touch him and hug him!
Therese Voerman is such an evil hottie. I don't even want to imagine her as Jeanette...
EDIT: I just love how Victor Temple always mentions Jeanette to Therese to push her buttons and Therese, being a Malkavian, can't help herself from going on a rant talking shit about her sister.
I think Moore can pull of Jeanette just fine
i think its to help show a huge difference for when Jeanette makes an appereance and show the stark contrast of that other side of the coin
Am I the only one thinking that Jeanette is Therese, just the Malkavian side?
@@XCrawlFan have you played bloodlines yet?
@@XCrawlFan wait what? That's a rare question to ask... then again Bloodlines was 15 years ago.
I'm going to miss Chaz. Mark Meer is such a good actor and role player. An asset to any table.
But's he's gotta see that sunrise.
I'll miss Mark Meer. No one will miss Chaz
Yes he was an asshole I mean asset.
I demand a map of the baronies. Also, Jason Carl is an amazing storyteller.
Thank you! And that's a great idea.
@@JasonCarl that would be an amazing storyteller resource! Actual mapped terretory would be sooooo good
Yes please
That would be excelent, because i have no idea how is L.A. =P
@@JasonCarl Will you include regions that are "not not in anyone's territory"? :)
and will you include "suspected wolf packs" in the Park?
also is this a "third eye" map? Or is it a Coterie Map based on what they know?
It would be nice to add havens as the coterie investigate where the camarilla members might be holding up or any Sabat or Lascombra or wolves they might come across?
And the rough direction of the "ley line" through the grave at the Ranger station and Jaspers front and back doors and whether the sleeping nosferatu is on that line.
Jasper might do with talking to someone about the name on the Mirror or take an image of the sleeper and try see if there is any recognition of it by anyone? It could even be a methuselah in torpor.
the latest episode of everybody hates chaz ;D
I actually like Chaz
Will die anyway!
Chaz in less obnoxious than Annabelle. I feel this series needs timecodes so her parts could be skipped.
Chaz is less obnoxious than "Baby B."?
With a wooden stick trough the heart and torched, maybe.
The only good thing on Chaz is the actor, who makes him this annoying. This guy plays him very well!
But as character: Only a destroyed Chaz, is a good Chaz!
Fair enough.
For me though Chaz just speaks some archaic posh english and acts like an enemy. He hasn’t done anything to make him particularly hate able. Annabelle however is a character that I can’t stand as a person. In context of horrible vampire rule her rebellious motivations make sense and are appealing to me but she as a person is utterly repulsive.
Victor warned about and simultaneously dissipated Chaz's blackmail on Nelli so well. He may be the new kid, but he is very, very skilled.
Christ...First that post-credit-scene with Chloe, now this? Fiona is slowly getting to "Characters I love to hate" levels...
Only *getting* there?! XD Fiona's been on my list since day 1 lol
this show seems to be really good at that, therese, fiona, chaz.. it's perfect
If we're going with the family dynamic, Nines is the cool uncle who lets you drink when your dad's not looking and gets you gift cards for your birthday.
Also CAN WE TALK ABOUT JASPER AND ANNABELLE'S LIL HEADBUTT THAT WAS SO CUUUUTE. Their sibling relationship is the best fucking thing ever.
Jebus, that tension was so thicc when slice of Victors domain was given to Fiona. I even forgot they play a simple game till the dice roll. Good job, bravo
Nines!!! No ventrue but ALL THAT PRESENCE!!! Sat there quiet he's the loudest statement in the room. VAH-MUH-LEE!!! VAH-MUH-LEE!!! VAH-MUH-LEE!!!
yep! that's him alright
AEFizzle brujah also has presence as a in clan discipline
I honestly feel bad for Victor in this situation. Yes, I’ll be the first person to say that his little stunt was not wise and could have ended horribly in a number of different ways. But not only did they all rip him to pieces, they struck a deep and personal blow. He lost the most valuable pieces of the Valley (including some of the music and entertainment studios he wanted) but he lost it in such a manner that he was basically reprimanded like a child. Then when he attempts to call out a very shady member at the table (Terese, I’m glaring at you.) he gets silenced AGAIN. And then the maraschino cherry on top of this sour sundae is that the other barons had little to no better ideas on what to do, and what it boiled down to was basically sending in the coterie that they’ve all apparently had headaches with into Elysium. >_< Victor, I honestly am sorry for you. And to be told that it’s in his best interests and he should thank them for it...damn. No wonder his list of trusted kindred got a whole lot shorter. Though I do give him props for wanting to put it to the side as they have all have much bigger fish to fry. AND for shooting down Fiona and Terese’s sick idea of weaponizing Annabelle’s idealism. Way to go dad.
On a separate note, I definitely like Nines Rodriguez. He already seems smitten by our beloved Annabelle. Careful kiddo; you have a following growing whether you know it or not. 😉
i could see that when the barons proposed victor pretends to be disappointed with the anarchs to get into camarilla vicinity, he was internally like "oh i won't have to PRETEND"
Paweł Sobolewski Exactly. He’s easily pissed with the majority of them.
@@ZenZudokai Glad to see you all know what's up. And thank you for watching and being a part of the #Vamily!
@@BDaveWalters the valley barony and LA praxis might have other contenders, but victor still remains the undisputed baron of vamily with praxis claimed over our hearts ;) nothing but respect for my favourite ventrue! :)
@@rateater1857 Thank you, and thank you for being a part of the #Vamily!
Victor made the most anarchist decision by claiming Praxis as an Anarch Baron.
Nothing brings down a system like The Ivory Tower better than actually getting *even a footstep* inside and tearing it from the inside out.
*ANARCHYYY*
My God, Nines Rodriguez was AMAZING! MVP! Please bring this guy to talk to Annabelle!
Wooohooo!!!!!
I'm ten minutes in and so far it's just 'The roast of Baron Temple.'
Edit No.2
I lovvveeeddd Nines sitting in on their meeting tutoring them and just geniunely being a cool dude. I also love how the actors and characters are all taking it on board too!
Poor man Victor roasted by Abrams later on too (
True, but all these "barons" roast him, but they had no better ideas!
@@tofton1977 RIGHT????? LOL
@@BDaveWalters Waw, the undisputed Baron of the valley himself is among us!
@@tofton1977 Always!
Nines can learn from the words of Kahless, “Great leaders do not seek power, great leaders have power thrusted upon them”
Nines has been to war. He knows what “glorious victory” actually looks like after the fact, and what it does to people. These fledgelings haven’t had to live through that. They’ll learn.
@@AnIdiotsLantern man if your just starting to watch this your in for a rude awakening
@@joshburns969 uh oh
"You'll know if I overreact, Victor. You'll be the first person to know if I overreact!"
That was a chilling line from Abrams. I love it. Also, Nines and Victor are both amazing. I'd follow either of them to Hell and back.
I love rewatching this series because it is nice to see that Victor DID stand up for principle over profit. That is an Anarch Ventrue at their core. Pride and principle over profit and gain. Nelly, Annabelle, Jasper...they are his coterie and are all worth going to the line for.
Principle is it’s own kind of currency, it’s own kind of profit. I think a Ventrue would be the first to point out that you cannot command from others what you refuse to display yourself. Anarch Ventrues lead from the front.
Fantastic episode, a stellar performance by all involved, and seeing Jason Carl step down from the podium and take a seat as Issac Abrams was a treat.
I really did love this too for the same reason, felt like the days I was dabbling in the occasional LARP scene where it is all like this.
Annabelle is so fucking naive, I love it.
She's been a vampire for 2 months and thinks she can just burn down and restructure centuries of history.
She's such a sociology student its amazing.
"I know exactly how to fix everything!"
*Creates a wild fire burns down everything and wonders why everyones dying*
Delicious story goodness
such a stereotype is played so well by erika, it's a mirror image of what we see today
You know what's the worst about this series? In 2 hours 45 minutes, we'll have to wait another week for our next fix... =)
i'm already waiting...
The beast is veeery hungry.
If you reaaally want to watch later episodes, you can subscribe to Geekandsaundry on twitch and watch whole 2nd season in archives :P The worst is that after watching you'll have to wait for 3rd season next xD
@@McMcEnioThat's the problem, right! You would satisfy your need for it but only until you realize we don't know when it is going to be continued, just that it is going to be at some point.
@@Sketchblopp June 1st
Nines was the best in Bloodlines and he's still got it. Spectacular.
The amount of dice Therese has is horrifying. Therese and Jeanette sound like horrible kindred to tangle with.
Their stats on the tabletop are terrifying
Everytime I watch Therese I get the feeling she's the most dangerous kindred in the room with her sharp as knife personality.
You definitely don't wanna mess with her.
Given the epilogue of last episode, I can't help but feel that it may not be Victor who gets revenge on Fiona, but Jasper. Because if he finds out Fiona was anywhere near Chloe, I suspect angry won't quite describe how he feels. Just a thought. Things could really go anywhere in this amazing series.
I think Jasper will kill her, Victor will help hide the body.
@@commanderdanielcousland9981 he will drag victor even in more shitstorm with Abrams & made him losing more land, ironically it was Abrams huge errors that lead Victor to be a baron (no slap in the wrist for Abrams)
rza884 Abrams just dug Hus own grave
@@commanderdanielcousland9981 I imagine killing her would not be as satisfying as throwing her in Jasper's "night club". Not that a body would need to be hidden anyway though lol
33:44 Nines: "I need to keep that thing at bay so that it doesn't take over and cause me to become something that is unfamiliar to me" Therese's head WHIPPING to attention is a mood!
Victor Temple is the only real Anarch in that room. If Anarchs watched a video of that meeting they’d absolutely follow him.
Anarch Ventrue are just built different. They lead from the front. Respect.
I maybe late to the party but my Anarch ass would follow Baron Temple
@@lunar_nightmare0540 undisputed baron of us all
@@kristopherizzi823 here here
really?? I feel like Victor is far too concerned with his own power and turf go be considered a true anarch. Nines is humble and doesn't care about a land grab. I think he's the true anarch
"Do you have phones?" Someone at Activision/Blizzard is about to make Victor Baron of Anaheim.
Finally we see Nines! His performance was sooo awesome, so authentic! ^^
Aside from this I wish we'd see more about what has happened with Elenore. Especially after 1000+ talks about "We have to be honest with each other" with the coterie. Whatever happened after that kiss between season 1 and 2 is probably very far from "everything is settled and there are no secrets left to share". I hope this isn't postponed into season 3... D:
Man, nothing but respect for my baron.
Right back atcha.
Yeah my respect for the lad became total after this ep. Who would've I would have respect for a damn Ventrue.
It's very interesting which tables the Barons sat at. One table is very different to the other. I love this whole talk. Also Nines is amazing I love him so much.
The Wizard of Disaster thank you!!
I noticed that, too. Higher humanity against lower
Kudos to all who played the Barons ... I can't believe that I just watched a council meeting for almost one and a half hour and it stayed suspenseful through all of it.
I cant even pick what i like most form this episode !
Nines.. Therese...Victors hat.. Jason Carl comeing dawn form his thorn to do some rp !
Coming down from his "thorn" ? Is that an intended pun on the Convention of Thorns perhaps?
As the current Herald might say ... "Touché ! Very droll!"
my mistake, sorry (throne)
When i saw him there i was... "oh my goth... Baron Abrams??? I so fucking love it!"
Not to be mean, but honestly this hat doesn't fit his face shape at all
I's not mean; you reserve the right to be wrong in your taste. ;)
SPOILERS...
I think Abrams move was more than a slap on the wrist.... as Nines said, Temples is moving fast. Already he has so many vampires tossing their power behind him... The ministry and weird sisters... Eva... and the rumored Ramona. Abrams seems the vamp who likes to be the power others turn to for help, to hand out “rewards” like candy and take them away like toys. And so many groups are going around Abrams to Temples. All those favors lost.... it wasn’t just a slap on the wrist. It was a power move to tell Temples he isn’t seen as a Baron on the same level as Abrams......
I guess we'll see how that plays out, won't we?
B. Dave Walters oh, Baron Temples better make Abrams regret that move! 😉
This is the moment I really see that the anarchs are no different than the Camarilla, just like a prince that dishes out domains and can take it away... For shame. What Abrahams wants to fight for is not freedom, it's his power and control that he doesn't want to relinquish to ANOTHER tyrant.
@@davehedric1543 Yep. They didn't fight for freedom with their revolt. Just for their turn to play King and rule.
Nines is right. Responsibility is not assumed authority! I forget the Greek leader who said the best to lead was the one who doesn't want it. Select your leader as the one who doesnt want it and that will remain furthest from corruption and Tyranny.
CS Lewis had Aslan say something very similar in 1of his Narnia books, I think it was in Prince Caspian.
@@culthosmythos in Greece was it Leonidas?? Not sure.
@@bartconnolly6104 Can't help you with that, don't know the historical version, only fictional, sorry.
10:12 "Do you think anyone that is running this thing is going to be like 'Oh the three we sent to investigate Los Angeles never returned so it must be nothing there' ?"
Well, yes Victor. I don't see what is wrong with this logic. Works for me for every guard investigating me in absolutely every video game I have ever played
Seems like Abrams thinks he's already the Prince of LA.
He and Victor are supposed to be equals in this little hierarchy of theirs, what does he think he's playing at?
TheFrogspawnedOne Right?! He’s acting with way more authority than he should be
@@Malkav65 i made the joke " easy there Prince Abrams"
He's playing the game, the *old* game, and doing so quite well. He's manipulating the other barons into agreeing with his propositions to exercise power and consequence for the behavior of other barons. This is how vampire politics are done, you keep your contemporaries in check when they screw with the Masquerade, no matter how justified.
All the while, this makes it more and more comfortable to rely on him to provide solutions to difficult problems as they present themselves, and it keeps the rest of the society informed of the weight of so much as threatening the Masquerade. Annabelle should be exceedingly grateful this is coming down on her baron's shoulders, and I can only hope he learns the right lesson here, seeing himself surrounded in a den of lions who can see through his greatest defense: the perception of his power. Abrams is doing much the same as Victor is playing at, with far more experience and connections to make it more real.
@@thant0s victor deserved it. This WAS a slap on the wrist.
@@FallenL0rd RIGHT? The game isn't over, believe me.
Nines is awesome, Luis Carazo nailed it.
Nines has stolen my heart. He and Annabelle are the most legit vampires around. I'd trust him with my life a minute after meeting him. He's a true anarch.
Nines was played amazing! Even a pinch better than Talesien's Carver who I also liked very much!
It brought me to tears how he was asking the right questions, philosophing around and just looked like he could probably take out the hole coterie in an instant!
Pascal Wittmer-Braun wow thank you...!
@@luiscarazo8438 I have to thank you! You represented the Clan Bruhja at it's best!
Talesian's portrayal is overrated. Just a bunch of nostalgia with fans from that other show. This dude who portrayed Nines was on some whole other level bruh. Best believe that.
@@tkschaaf7096 I would say that Taliesin did a fine job as well with Carver. Both he and Luis here, are very good in their roleplay! ~
And besides, not all Brujah have to behave the very same way (same goes for every kind of group or philosophy). As individuals, Carver has his own approach... Nines has his own approach... on how they handle situations.
@@tkschaaf7096 Taliesin is an OG vampire who's been doing this since before you were born son.
When Baron Fiona enter... I recall the last minuts of the last episode with Jasper`s fiancè speaking with her... This is gonna to be soooo baaad... This is better than Game of Thrones to me ♥
I don't think Victors going to have to worry about losing that patch of land for long.
@SaiyanPride If he ends Fiona's existence, i will be really happy... He is gonna be a base to my first Nosferstu Sire 😆
@@drmwatson15 Losing land means losing power, so I think he does not want that to happend...
@bludrk returns I sooo fucking agreee 😆
Persefone Rest In Peace wait how do you guys now that the “mistress” mentioned in the phone was Fiona? Did I miss something? I didn’t seem to recall her name being mentioned at all
I love the simmering fire Victor has at the end. Can't wait to see what comes from Abrahms move to steal his territory.
The more I watch this show, the more I'm convinced that Jason is an actual vampire! And Nines, oh Nines! Where do I begin? How can someone manage to be so sublime and so badass at the same time? Very good!
Well, I haven't been seen out in daylight in a while.... ;)
Abrams and Therese mentioned the rules of Elysium and how Camarilla values the traditions, BUT Vannevar had broken the Masquerade to attack Victor and his coterie at the Grove.
I have not seen the rest of Season 2, but logic tells me the prince is not above bending the traditions to the point of failure for his own advantage, thus probably does not lay in friendly terms with Strauss, him being devout to the Camarilla first, and princes second.
pedro7g5 also after the bullshit Abrams pulled in that meeting I hope Victor is plotting his demise after the war.
@@tkschaaf7096 That's not very smart. To plot against a fellow baron because he carved a tiny piece of your land that he granted you in the first place? Nope. And Abrams is not someone you can just take out the board without it making waves. I'm sure you've watched the entire season too, but yeah. Abrams is powerful enough that he felt the Beckoning, and the Kindred who are called by the Beckoning, most likely, are childer that the Methuselah feel would be very useful with their battle against the Antediluvians.
@@pepethefrog6809
Grantedz mind you, because of Abrams' own mistake.
@@jeremiahsnelson5644 What do you mean his own mistake? The Grove?
@@pepethefrog6809 dealing with a second inquisition asset, blaine.
"Wherever there's an ounce of power to be had, there'll be people dicking each other over. You think the Camarilla invented that?" The Barons' meeting really reminded me of the words of Bertram Tung :D
"What could possibly go wrong..."
I'm just waiting for Jason Carl to do the mad scientist laugh after saying that line.
I was listening to this on my way to work with my wife in the car to drop her off somewhere on the way and the first time Nines spoke she went "Oh, he's pretty." JUST FROM THE VOICE. I wasn't even jealous. That's amazing.
This episode was absolutely the best done till now!
The barons meeting, the coterie aknowledgement, the final vignette... all was perfect!
All the cast was spectacular!
I love L.A. by Night and Jason is simply fantastic as always. He's perfect in everything!
Love you guys ❤
I do love the whole gang they are amazing and extremely talented. Victor though, throughout the past few episodes has been as sharp as a knife.
Glad you are enjoying our story! Agree on Victor, B. Dave Walters was amazing as the Undisputed Baron under a lot of pressure.
@@JasonCarl Thank you! Takes pressure to make a diamond, right?
I shall wait the day when the term Vamp Daddy comes back.
Also I'm so glad Jason is getting to do an entire character scene, it's so awesone.
Therese's cognitive dissonance was showing in this episode. Love it. Love Nines for calling her out. That's why I love him. She plays the victim to cover being ruthless with coterie.
I love the idea of Nines being surprised that a Ventrue taught him something about himself, and confiding in someone that it happened.
Mark Meer clearly loves doing this so much.
"Hate" chaz, but I can't help loving him (low-key siding with him) just because of Mark's performance.
It's Commander Shepard as a blue-blood asshole vampire-and he does it brilliantly.
The longer this goes on, the more I suspect that Nelli doesn't feel nearly as strongly for Victor as he does for her.
Yeah, that whole I'll do it for women shtick is kinda weak tea...
She's doing it for herself, to bury her sin of diablerie. It's absolutely selfish.
@@davehedric1543 ...or she's doing it because he abused her
I just adora annabelle and jaspers friendship. Its almost as if he views her like a little sister
Low key swooning over Nines. What a brilliant character! Even when hes not talking, he just commands the room. It's incredible. 😍 Unbelievably well played!
Right? He's played by the inimitable Luis Carzado and he is just perfect in the role!
@@JasonCarl you were also fantastic as Baron Abrams! Your snark towards Victor had me cracking up! This is absolutely an episode I'll find myself watching again. I'm so glad I found this show, as I've fallen in love with it. I get so immersed with each episode, and am in awe of all of you :)
Nines: *Says literally anything*
Annabelle: ☺️
Man, that Chaz, right at the end... Got the chance to meet Mark Meer this weekend, honestly a really cool guy to talk to :)
Mark is super nice, nothing at all like the dastardly Chaz! Also an amazingly talented and skilled actor.
@@JasonCarl Indeed he is. Props to you too, incredible storyteller
I don't say I would fight for many people, but if Nines asked me to fight, I would. Luis Carazo plays a man I would happily follow. Also... yay! Banu Haqim got mentioned! Here's hoping my favorite clan appears
Is it Banu that's remained Independent or did he side with the Camarilla? I know the Set's split (more or less)
@@AoRArchAngel as I recall, the Banu Haqim stayed mostly independent.
@@shade419 Oops, meant Assamites not Setites., but seems you knew what I meant.
Therese: Can I use auspex
Abrams: sure why not
Loved the episode, Nines was spot on :)
I wonder if the actor had to replay the game to get the character right, we need more of him on the show!
Luis was incredible as Nines, right? And he was great to work with. :)
@@JasonCarl the casting choices on the show are perfect :)
" In order to change things, you just have to change things"
-Rodrigues,Nines 2019
Victor is quickly becoming my fav character.
what a season!!! "sometimes, in order to build.... all you have to do is build."
"Lets kill chaz everyone hates the guy"
But... I love his voice...
Am i the only one who wants to see Whitney as Jeanette, the better of the "twins"
I've seen pictures of her at the table online so she must make an appearance at some point.
@@toshomni9478 you saw whitney with pigtails and skirt???
drsatanrx soonnnn
@@drsatanrx I don't care about the outfit. Give me that juicy acting range!
She's hella loony bruh.
1:52:50
"I have my answer, *and I have made a note*"
Never have my player senses pinged so hard
Man, Nines was so great all around in this. What a bro.
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1. the collective flaming of Chaz is reaching Super Bowl Night levels and I DIG IT.
2. Therese stresses me out. A lot.
3. Victoria is a lady buuuut i don't have words for a lady. hatehatehatehaaaaaaate her.
An anarch Ventrue is very interesting and Dave Walters play it very well. Thanks to this, although he is very different from Nines, he shares several of his points of view.
Power is still his goal but he is not interested in following some old ways of the Camarilla.
He is aware of the tendency to betrayal between Kindred but tries to have an open communication with his close ones, they are more than instruments. Maybe because of the not so distant memory that before he was a human, that he loved fame and power but admired loyalty and had loved ones.
The player, B. Dave Walters, is indeed pretty great in this role!
It’s said somewhere that there are more Ventrue in the Anarchs than either would like to admit. When you imagine a bunch of young Kindred who like power don’t like waiting their turn over some royal privilege and instead want to prove themselves meritocratically, I think I makes a lot of sense.
The actor playing Nines is so great in this, and Whitney Moore continues to be incredible as Therese! I feel like she has such a perfect grasp on that character!
Jason Carl always brings his A Game to every episode, both in terms of creating a scene & inhabiting a role-& his turn as Abrams in this episode really proved that point!
I really like how the Baron's Meeting feels like a reflection of the power dynamic that goes on in the coterie, in that Victor has gone from being the older, more experienced Kindred putting the childish and petulant fledgling, Annabelle, in her place, to him being the childish and petulant fledgling being put in his place by the older, more experienced (and vastly more powerful) Kindred.
Lit, Victor is (I believe) just a 12th or 13th generation Kindred (9/10x Great Grand Childe of Caine), while his "peers" here are 6th (3x Great Grand Childe), 9th (6x Great Grand Childe) and an unknown Generation in the case of Abrams.
Sorry for the late comment (especially if you find out in later episodes), Abrams mentions in the S1 epilogues he feels the call of the Gehenna War, which in VtM 5e would imply that he's over 300 years old as only elders can feel the Beckoning. If Victor is 12th/13th having been turned at least 20 years ago (he's over 70 but looks how he does), that might put Abrams between 7th and 9th generation.
@@redxcrystal Abrams is 8th or 9th gen, and no where near 300; he was around a neonate when macneil and the others rebelled against the cam. He's mentioned the latter a few times in the series this far, as well as spoke about him working in hollywood while he was alive, before taking a more behind-the-scenes approach since his embrace. Theres a few more things that affirm what im saying, but they come later in the series and I dont want to put out any spoilers for those who are new to the series and read comments.
I was waiting for the shoe to drop on Victor after he essentially declared for the Camarilla. God damn this entire episode had me sweating bullets. Excellent roleplaying from all. Absolutely amazing!
OMG, Jasper's little growl when Annabelle hugs him is the cutest thing ever!
i know right? 😭
I love me some Victor!!! He was making sure no one messed with his team!!!
I wish they showed half of that loyalty and respect back to him.
Lord Ravenscore ikr lmao
I was 23 minutes late to work today because i had to finish this episode. Dont tell my boss i was hidden in my car in behind tge building.