Ever since I was about 8 years old I have always had an unusual fascination with the mechanical watch. I have always considered them pieces of art. Even the most inexpensive models . Most people just don't understand what an incredible feat of mechanical engineering they are . I could sit and stare at the movement for hours. There is nothing more relaxing than listening to the tick , tick . tick .
An incredible feat of engineering they were, ESPECIALLY the inexpensive ones. Engineering is all about optimizing performance AND cost. Today mechanical movements may make sense financially, aesthetically or as fashon items, but they don't make sense anymore from an engineering point of view.
watching is a professional of the old world that we should all work to preserve! We love repairing and fixing old watches, It makes for a great career and even better hobby! Cheers to all the watchmakers around the world!
The understanding of the art of mechanical movements and caliber is one stress reliever like none....it's the only piece of art that is always with you and tick tocks till you are called to the Grand lodge above ...IGYW
On a pure asthetic level, I would only pay big bucks for the Reverso. I'll take my IWC 853, with a completely faded dial over these current watches. I found my watch in the cheap watch bin at the thrift store. I wound it, and it was too smooth for a ETA movement, or any cheap watch. It kept perfect time? I kept it sit on my nightstand a year. On boring night, I noticed a fish on the crown. "Why would Timex put a logo on a crown?" I opened the SnapBack case.(they are incredibly tight. Don't use a regular watch back knife. Use the tool that looks like a chisel to open the back, and the case. Be careful.) To my surprise, a beautiful IWC 1955's movement shone back at me. Well that started my obsession with horology. Watch repairing is not that difficult. Look for an old, complete watch online, and put it to life. It's a good feeling, and won't cost you a house. Oh yea, as to huge watches. It's a fad. Its not wrist size. My IWC is 36mm and looks, and feels fine. I wouldn't want it bigger, or smaller. I'm nice you get into this hobby/profession your tastes will change. You will also see through the BS. Over three hundred grand for that Chinese looking watch? I will be putting together watch repair videos, and hopefully a watch repair book. A modern book.
The reason why many of these precision watches cost several hundred thousand Euro is not only because they require time to create in a precision manner... They are expensive in fiat currency like Euro & dollars because those fiat currencies are worthless by comparison to the quality of the labor & parts that go into them - but in comparison to the value of real currency such as silver or gold, they are not super expensive but only relatively so - despite the fact that these real currencies (precious metals) are manipulated downward by central banks & fiat currency investors in their market value.
I can never figure out what I think is the most interesting aspects of watches. If I think it's about accuracy, I can applaud a watch that syncs to GPS or the atomic clock in Fort Collins; because it's hard to beat a watch that can sync itself daily to very accurate reference clocks. But the high tech approach is a bit boring, because the accuracy is external. I am more impressed by the Spring drive - a movement that is an interest hybrid between an automatic ( self winding mechanical) and a quartz watch. Or maybe a high beat quartz watch with thermal compensation that's accurate to a few seconds a year. Going another direction, we have insanely complicated mechanical watch complications, which are a wonder to behold; the amount of moving parts in a perpetual repeater is mind boggling. But outside of the spring drive, mechanical watches are not very good timekeepers.
Thank you for deciphering the mysteries about timepieces, you really took a lot of the complications in purchasing a timepiece for me. Any advice or uploads you may have or provide post purchasing a timepiece? The insiders guide to know how of maintenance or repair to trusted repair companies (not dealership) or how to research them. Do it yourself scratch removals or polishing techniques, watch repair and tool kits the brands used. Purchasing quality interchangeable bracelets, rubber straps, and alligator leather. Many thanks for further information provided.
It's amazing the machine can do this but what is out of this world the microscopic parts was once done by hand of watchmakers over a hundred years ago those guys had the know how really I can't even imagine
If the watchmakers makes his own screws, and he usually does, he also makes his own screwdrivers. Most watchmakers/factories make their own tools because they do not use standard size screws. They make whatever they need, in house, every component of the watch and most tools to make them with. That is one of the reasons why quality watches are so expensive.
Very beautiful watches, but some part of me cringes thinking about millions of dollars for a watch. Or that there's enough people with the disposable income for that market to exist.
Disposable income, that goes to paying dozens of people a salary for a year.... people always seem to forget pesky things like that. When rich people spend money, that money goes to pay miners, refiners, shipping companies, factory workers, more shipping companies, sales people. Then watch makers to fix the watches. People like me that sell parts to fix watches. But yeah, keep cringing.
Yes. But there's something about the wealth disparity that's disturbing. As an analogy you can look at the pyramids and marvel at the engineering, the majesty, etc. and still criticize the system around their creation. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
***** The version I watched had the commentary in English, not French. So why the English subtitles? (Or did you see a different version, with a French commentary?)
I think you're misunderstanding me. What i said was, most of us do not understand vocal french and german, which is why the English subtitles are great, so that we, the rest of the globe, can understand what is spoken in French, german and so on
All of the sudden a $40,000 Pigini accordion or a $300,000 Fazioli grand look like a bargain compared to this. But then again if you can't impress on a $5,000 Roland accordion or a $70,000 Steinway or Yamaha grand, then you won't impress with a Pigini or a Fazioli. And then I guess if you can't impress with anything at all, then you buy LV luggage and Swiss mechanical watch :)
I love my cheap Seiko, I'm not looking to impress anyone but myself hehe... It's the watchmakers that are impressive anyways, not really the customers.
Tekinette Seiko's are not that cheap. My favorite type, the quartz chronographs go between $300-$400. They are fantastic though. I had two for 25+ years, and they still work.
I need to clear this up......Are the people at the tables with the white gowns just assembling and grooming the watches??? Or did they design and engineer the time pieces themselves???? Are there separate mechanical engineers in the production process???? And I hope these people have HIGH salaries, considering the astronomical prices of these watches. Or is it only the executives????
They were workers. Nothing more. Machines with hands. And no their salaries aren't high. It takes that one woman a week to polish that tiny little part. THAT is why these watches cost a lot. Think about it. That one part , for just that one persons time, is worth about $1000 in labor alone. Not counting tools, machines that made it, electricity, rent, the engineers and designers that created it. The cost that went into training these people, that had to start from nothing. Just for ONE TINY LITTLE PART. You can train just about anyone with a steady hand to do these mindless repetitive tasks. So no, they do not deserve high salaries.
In age of manipulating atoms with magnetic fields, these "classic" (they're just lagging behind) watchmakers are using manual labor to do one specific job at a time just by one person. And they're not even paying much to these people, who work to satisfy lust for luxury of oil and gold tycoons. Last time this bullshit existed, Great October Revolution happened.
+Arþur “Tataarujin” D you can say that about pretty much every employee. Envy is not a good color for you. Those oil tycoons, help feed a lot of people when they buy a watch. Many different industries get paid, to produce a final product. But people like you would rather us go back to the barter system. Unless you have a better solution, then shut your freaken trap.
james pogrebetsky >Unless you have a better solution I actually have. There are a fuckton of starving people in the world. What people in watchmaking companies make for day, these starving people won't make in year. So, take starving people, teach them to polish gears, cut ornaments or whatever the hell people are doing and pay them half as much as to those well-fed people. Et voila! Less starving people, more watches, less price. Win-win-win. And don't start to feed me "muh exclusivity" crap. Watches made by well-fed and newly hired ex-starving people are indistinguishable if their skills are equal.
+Arþur “Tataarujin” D yeah. That worked awesome with china... NOT. your idea of helping people, is to bring people up, at the expense of bringing others down. That is disgusting. If you're so business savvy, then start your own business, and do that yourself. You have no right to tell businesses how they should run their business. Hasn't worked in a single damn country that has tried it. The second china started prospering, was the same second that they allowed for the idea of private companies. Government oversight of companies, NEVER works. And the only way to get your idea to work, is with government oversight. If companies could hire cheap labor, they would, and they do. But as someone that has to deal with outsourced call centers every day, it is awful. They might be cheaper, but at the expense of quality. So no, you don't have a better solution. You have an better idea. Communism is also a better idea. But it certainly isn't a better solution
+Delage Eric hope that does not happens. Europe Germany will retain the Glory and gift human civilisation as before with intellect and power to grow. I watch Cnn Bbc with whatever they report and get paranoid but I realise that world was all the same before and now. All people did was stay strong ,fight and give the future world a better hope .
These companies sell the watch at 100x the cost of production including salaries paid to these hard labourers in the name of "hand made" which of course could be achieved by computerised machines with present technology.
Technophiliac I know for a fact they use computers to build these watches. Yes they still need watch makes to do all the finishing up jobs. I have a wonderful old Glashutte pano reserve watch love the look and my watch runs perfectly. I would love to have a FP Journe watch they are one of my pet favorites. But the price is stupid.
So you expect people to ignore art. These watches are more like art pieces. To get a mechanical watch to do many of the tasks required and still look beautiful is awesome. Many well to do and the rich donate a lot of money to worthy causes. To deny someone to not enjoy the fruits of their labor is obscene.
Who is being greedy here.If I buy a watch.I feed the guy who ran that cnc machine,I feed the family of the woman who polishes the gears.The woman who spent a week grinding the torbillion to perfection they were all fed and house and clothed by having jobs that someone else is paying to buy their work.You bought a computer ?or a phone to post this.How many people could have been fed with that money,oh right you are using "your" money to buy someone to make your life happier or more fun.
I should 'tell time with my phone' while diving, hiking, or any other vast number of rigorous or just mundane daily applications? And those which require a remotely tough but vastly more accurate timepiece? Denial much, or is it snobbery? The fine mechanical watch is unassailable in engineering and now market value Mr Patek - no need for nonsensical justifications for fine watches. Understandable, but still silly.
In my opinion, if a high-end exclusive watch is made by one person, this person should either keep this watch, or get the retail price for it. For instance, one craftsman (-woman) should get the $350,000 for the Lange & Sohne she made, or should keep the watch for herself. I think it's fair, no? Anybody challenge my view?
I think a lot of sense. The lady gets the money for what the watch retails. Then she can tip her manager $1,000. That's plenty for just standing and bossing around and doing nothing. Another $1,000 tip for office cleaning lady who actually does something. The rest of the retail money goes to the lady who makes the watch. I think it's fair. Or she can just keep the watch since she made it herself.
No, that doesn't make sense. There is a lot more to a watch company than a watchmaker, a manager and a cleaning lady. There are also people who obtain materials, and make the parts. And there is upkeep and utilities that need to be paid to keep the lights on and the rooms warm. And people who sell the watches. All of this needs to be managed by someone, or else the watchmaker won't have enough time left in the day to make watches.
Ken Glaze Yeah, and all those people who make nothing cash in the 95% pure profit. Watch maker gets 5% which I believe it's crazy, because the watch maker is the person who actually makes something.
+Andrew Piatek That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why? because if any of those watchmakers went out independently and made their own watches, most wouldn't succeed, regardless of quality, unfortunately, even if they are great. I personally believe that brands are invaluable, and a lot of people pay much more for brands and also have a lot of biases towards such things. you're saying the guy who created the company that brought everything together and executed his vision (which is undoubtedly more work than the watchmakers) doesn't deserve any money? I don't get it, but I'm assuming by your reasoning that you believe steve job's net worth belongs to china since he sourced everything from there, right..? after all, they where mostly made in china..
It's obscene to spend that kind of money of something as trivial as a watch when there are people in the world with no food to eat, or fresh water to drink. Shame on the skanky Swiss.
Ever since I was about 8 years old I have always had an unusual fascination with the mechanical watch. I have always considered them pieces of art. Even the most inexpensive models . Most people just don't understand what an incredible feat of mechanical engineering they are . I could sit and stare at the movement for hours. There is nothing more relaxing than listening to the tick , tick . tick .
An incredible feat of engineering they were, ESPECIALLY the inexpensive ones. Engineering is all about optimizing performance AND cost. Today mechanical movements may make sense financially, aesthetically or as fashon items, but they don't make sense anymore from an engineering point of view.
watching is a professional of the old world that we should all work to preserve!
We love repairing and fixing old watches, It makes for a great career and even better hobby!
Cheers to all the watchmakers around the world!
THIS IS REALY COMPLEX ITS SO BEAUTIFUL X3
I've never owned a watch but after learning horology I'm in love. Wow
The understanding of the art of mechanical movements and caliber is one stress reliever like none....it's the only piece of art that is always with you and tick tocks till you are called to the Grand lodge above ...IGYW
Simply beautiful work. I have been a machinist for several years and can really appreciate what it takes to make the parts. Love it.
Incredible art of measuring time with a Masterpiece !!!
"we're still fascinated by shafts"
Thank you for posting this documentary!
Amazing video! Thank`s for uploading!!!
On a pure asthetic level, I would only pay big bucks for the Reverso. I'll take my IWC 853, with a completely faded dial over these current watches. I found my watch in the cheap watch bin at the thrift store. I wound it, and it was too smooth for a ETA movement, or any cheap watch. It kept perfect time? I kept it sit on my nightstand a year. On boring night, I noticed a fish on the crown. "Why would Timex put a logo on a crown?" I opened the SnapBack case.(they are incredibly tight. Don't use a regular watch back knife. Use the tool that looks like a chisel to open the back, and the case. Be careful.)
To my surprise, a beautiful IWC 1955's movement shone back at me. Well that started my obsession with horology.
Watch repairing is not that difficult. Look for an old, complete watch online, and put it to life. It's a good feeling, and won't cost you a house.
Oh yea, as to huge watches. It's a fad. Its not wrist size. My IWC is 36mm and looks, and feels fine. I wouldn't want it bigger, or smaller. I'm nice you get into this hobby/profession your tastes will change. You will also see through the BS. Over three hundred grand for that Chinese looking watch?
I will be putting together watch repair videos, and hopefully a watch repair book. A modern book.
There are three parts to this program. All three are posted.
Can we get a better quality ? What the real name?
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this is what called smart marketing
The reason why many of these precision watches cost several hundred thousand Euro is not only because they require time to create in a precision manner... They are expensive in fiat currency like Euro & dollars because those fiat currencies are worthless by comparison to the quality of the labor & parts that go into them - but in comparison to the value of real currency such as silver or gold, they are not super expensive but only relatively so - despite the fact that these real currencies (precious metals) are manipulated downward by central banks & fiat currency investors in their market value.
A fascinating video, wonderful to watch
What is the music they are playing during this documentary?
I can never figure out what I think is the most interesting aspects of watches. If I think it's about accuracy, I can applaud a watch that syncs to GPS or the atomic clock in Fort Collins; because it's hard to beat a watch that can sync itself daily to very accurate reference clocks. But the high tech approach is a bit boring, because the accuracy is external. I am more impressed by the Spring drive - a movement that is an interest hybrid between an automatic ( self winding mechanical) and a quartz watch. Or maybe a high beat quartz watch with thermal compensation that's accurate to a few seconds a year. Going another direction, we have insanely complicated mechanical watch complications, which are a wonder to behold; the amount of moving parts in a perpetual repeater is mind boggling. But outside of the spring drive, mechanical watches are not very good timekeepers.
Thank you for deciphering the mysteries about timepieces, you really took a lot of the complications in purchasing a timepiece for me. Any advice or uploads you may have or provide post purchasing a timepiece? The insiders guide to know how of maintenance or repair to trusted repair companies (not dealership) or how to research them. Do it yourself scratch removals or polishing techniques, watch repair and tool kits the brands used. Purchasing quality interchangeable bracelets, rubber straps, and alligator leather. Many thanks for further information provided.
I would like an automatic wind up Xbox controller for every time I throw it across the room.
It's amazing the machine can do this but what is out of this world the microscopic parts was once done by hand of watchmakers over a hundred years ago those guys had the know how really I can't even imagine
Some watchmakers still do them by hand, like Roger Smith, Vianney Halter and Philippe Dufour
There is also Japanese fine watchmaking. GRAND SEIKO
Fantástico!
awesome video.
GS is amazing.
What music is that playing at the beginning of this?
Netflix has hundreds of rubbish comedies, but hardly anything like this (unless its from PBS).
bob26873 You're joking!
Nice!!
What a truly beautiful art. I wish it would continue to grow, I swear, less and less people are interested.
Man needs a watch to be Complete
Lady polish a tourbillion👍👏
The music in this video made me feel oddly isolated.
damn man , working there can make you go blind , looking at all these small parts
die besten Manufakturen der Welt
17:03 not common for me to see a punk work in high-tier shit like that one NASA dude.
pause at 17:41
Compress Oil ???
what are the screwdrivers used int 4:32 to 4:48. a brand name would be awesome please
If the watchmakers makes his own screws, and he usually does, he also makes his own screwdrivers. Most watchmakers/factories make their own tools because they do not use standard size screws. They make whatever they need, in house, every component of the watch and most tools to make them with. That is one of the reasons why quality watches are so expensive.
Rather: that is one way of inflating the production cost of something whose primary appeal is being overly expensive.
Very beautiful watches, but some part of me cringes thinking about millions of dollars for a watch. Or that there's enough people with the disposable income for that market to exist.
+Beorn Borg Just a buy one from AliExpress
Disposable income, that goes to paying dozens of people a salary for a year.... people always seem to forget pesky things like that. When rich people spend money, that money goes to pay miners, refiners, shipping companies, factory workers, more shipping companies, sales people. Then watch makers to fix the watches. People like me that sell parts to fix watches. But yeah, keep cringing.
james pogrebetsky True, in a small way. But luxury items like that have a much smaller economic multiplier.
@@BeornBorg it's their money to burn if they so choose.
Yes. But there's something about the wealth disparity that's disturbing. As an analogy you can look at the pyramids and marvel at the engineering, the majesty, etc. and still criticize the system around their creation. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
In my opinion the best time of day is 6:30, hands down!
So hands up anyone who prefers 12 o'clock?
LOL!!! Good comeback. So good I put my hands over my face😄
So much for the hands jokes. 😎
Ist das Frostschutz Wasser ???
I love IWC hahah
the dude's rationalization for larger watches is comical lmao
How come they didnt mention nicolas hayek the man who saved the swiss watchmaking industry during the quartz crisis???
Thanks for the upload, but the documentary was spoiled for me by all those subtitles.
Offshoreorganbuilder Many of us, do not understand french, hence the subtitles are great.
***** The version I watched had the commentary in English, not French. So why the English subtitles? (Or did you see a different version, with a French commentary?)
I think you're misunderstanding me.
What i said was, most of us do not understand vocal french and german, which is why the English subtitles are great, so that we, the rest of the globe, can understand what is spoken in French, german and so on
I pranked my paw paw and put gum in his mechanical watch.
sehr interessantes Uhren Video
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hay luke thats another thing there condoms are rippoff price too
That countach at 2:52
got me. 🤑🤑
One of the factory workers is wearing a quartz watch... WTF
BrOOklynUP More ironic is the watches they wear are more accurate than the watches they make.
They have condoms on there fingers 😂
All of the sudden a $40,000 Pigini accordion or a $300,000 Fazioli grand look like a bargain compared to this. But then again if you can't impress on a $5,000 Roland accordion or a $70,000 Steinway or Yamaha grand, then you won't impress with a Pigini or a Fazioli. And then I guess if you can't impress with anything at all, then you buy LV luggage and Swiss mechanical watch :)
I love my cheap Seiko, I'm not looking to impress anyone but myself hehe... It's the watchmakers that are impressive anyways, not really the customers.
Tekinette
Seiko's are not that cheap. My favorite type, the quartz chronographs go between $300-$400. They are fantastic though. I had two for 25+ years, and they still work.
Well they're cheap when it comes to quality mechanical watches but expensive compared to quartz stuff yeah. Just ordered a new one, can't wait !
Andrew Piatek
Get a Spring Drive if you want a pricy Seiko. @@Tekinette
Inside making a part at home:
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I need to clear this up......Are the people at the tables with the white gowns just assembling and grooming the watches??? Or did they design and engineer the time pieces themselves???? Are there separate mechanical engineers in the production process???? And I hope these people have HIGH salaries, considering the astronomical prices of these watches. Or is it only the executives????
They were workers. Nothing more. Machines with hands. And no their salaries aren't high. It takes that one woman a week to polish that tiny little part. THAT is why these watches cost a lot. Think about it. That one part , for just that one persons time, is worth about $1000 in labor alone. Not counting tools, machines that made it, electricity, rent, the engineers and designers that created it. The cost that went into training these people, that had to start from nothing. Just for ONE TINY LITTLE PART. You can train just about anyone with a steady hand to do these mindless repetitive tasks. So no, they do not deserve high salaries.
In age of manipulating atoms with magnetic fields, these "classic" (they're just lagging behind) watchmakers are using manual labor to do one specific job at a time just by one person. And they're not even paying much to these people, who work to satisfy lust for luxury of oil and gold tycoons.
Last time this bullshit existed, Great October Revolution happened.
+Arþur “Tataarujin” D you can say that about pretty much every employee. Envy is not a good color for you. Those oil tycoons, help feed a lot of people when they buy a watch. Many different industries get paid, to produce a final product. But people like you would rather us go back to the barter system. Unless you have a better solution, then shut your freaken trap.
james pogrebetsky
>Unless you have a better solution
I actually have. There are a fuckton of starving people in the world. What people in watchmaking companies make for day, these starving people won't make in year.
So, take starving people, teach them to polish gears, cut ornaments or whatever the hell people are doing and pay them half as much as to those well-fed people. Et voila! Less starving people, more watches, less price. Win-win-win.
And don't start to feed me "muh exclusivity" crap. Watches made by well-fed and newly hired ex-starving people are indistinguishable if their skills are equal.
+Arþur “Tataarujin” D yeah. That worked awesome with china... NOT. your idea of helping people, is to bring people up, at the expense of bringing others down. That is disgusting. If you're so business savvy, then start your own business, and do that yourself. You have no right to tell businesses how they should run their business. Hasn't worked in a single damn country that has tried it. The second china started prospering, was the same second that they allowed for the idea of private companies. Government oversight of companies, NEVER works. And the only way to get your idea to work, is with government oversight. If companies could hire cheap labor, they would, and they do. But as someone that has to deal with outsourced call centers every day, it is awful. They might be cheaper, but at the expense of quality. So no, you don't have a better solution. You have an better idea. Communism is also a better idea. But it certainly isn't a better solution
I don't understand German except for Few words thanks
+Delage Eric hope that does not happens. Europe Germany will retain the Glory and gift human civilisation as before with intellect and power to grow. I watch Cnn Bbc with whatever they report and get paranoid but I realise that world was all the same before and now. All people did was stay strong ,fight and give the future world a better hope .
+Thejasvi H And let's not forget the Lizard People...
These companies sell the watch at 100x the cost of production including salaries paid to these hard labourers in the name of "hand made" which of course could be achieved by computerised machines with present technology.
Technophiliac
I know for a fact they use computers to build these watches. Yes they still need watch makes to do all the finishing up jobs. I have a wonderful old Glashutte pano reserve watch love the look and my watch runs perfectly. I would love to have a FP Journe watch they are one of my pet favorites. But the price is stupid.
So, don't purchase them!
CZcams
Ugh sucks they cost a fortune. Cartier watches cost 20,000$!!!!
sergio martinez Y eso que cartier es una marca intermedia.. mejor hublot, ap, pp , omega
2:52 mclaren F1
lamborghini diablo..
It just seems a wee bit vulgar that there is money for such devices and there are so many in legitimate need. It appears there is no limit to greed!
So you expect people to ignore art. These watches are more like art pieces. To get a mechanical watch to do many of the tasks required and still look beautiful is awesome. Many well to do and the rich donate a lot of money to worthy causes. To deny someone to not enjoy the fruits of their labor is obscene.
Who is being greedy here.If I buy a watch.I feed the guy who ran that cnc machine,I feed the family of the woman who polishes the gears.The woman who spent a week grinding the torbillion to perfection they were all fed and house and clothed by having jobs that someone else is paying to buy their work.You bought a computer ?or a phone to post this.How many people could have been fed with that money,oh right you are using "your" money to buy someone to make your life happier or more fun.
Terrible French translation.
I should 'tell time with my phone' while diving, hiking, or any other vast number of rigorous or just mundane daily applications? And those which require a remotely tough but vastly more accurate timepiece? Denial much, or is it snobbery?
The fine mechanical watch is unassailable in engineering and now market value Mr Patek - no need for nonsensical justifications for fine watches. Understandable, but still silly.
Tough and accurate? The engineer says 'quartz'...
Physique that is highly developed lol. Fat. You mean people are fatter today. Let's not mince words.
pity about the low res of this video
I dont beleeeve it
Gay
In my opinion, if a high-end exclusive watch is made by one person, this person should either keep this watch, or get the retail price for it. For instance, one craftsman (-woman) should get the $350,000 for the Lange & Sohne she made, or should keep the watch for herself. I think it's fair, no? Anybody challenge my view?
+Andrew Piatek that doesnt make any sense lol
I think a lot of sense. The lady gets the money for what the watch retails. Then she can tip her manager $1,000. That's plenty for just standing and bossing around and doing nothing. Another $1,000 tip for office cleaning lady who actually does something. The rest of the retail money goes to the lady who makes the watch. I think it's fair. Or she can just keep the watch since she made it herself.
No, that doesn't make sense. There is a lot more to a watch company than a watchmaker, a manager and a cleaning lady. There are also people who obtain materials, and make the parts. And there is upkeep and utilities that need to be paid to keep the lights on and the rooms warm. And people who sell the watches. All of this needs to be managed by someone, or else the watchmaker won't have enough time left in the day to make watches.
Ken Glaze Yeah, and all those people who make nothing cash in the 95% pure profit. Watch maker gets 5% which I believe it's crazy, because the watch maker is the person who actually makes something.
+Andrew Piatek That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why? because if any of those watchmakers went out independently and made their own watches, most wouldn't succeed, regardless of quality, unfortunately, even if they are great. I personally believe that brands are invaluable, and a lot of people pay much more for brands and also have a lot of biases towards such things.
you're saying the guy who created the company that brought everything together and executed his vision (which is undoubtedly more work than the watchmakers) doesn't deserve any money?
I don't get it, but I'm assuming by your reasoning that you believe steve job's net worth belongs to china since he sourced everything from there, right..?
after all, they where mostly made in china..
casio is still more better.
It's obscene to spend that kind of money of something as trivial as a watch when there are people in the world with no food to eat, or fresh water to drink. Shame on the skanky Swiss.