MAPerformance: 500whp+ Ecoboost Mustang | How We Got Here, Future Plans
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Stock block, stock rods, stock bearings, stock pistons, stock head, stock cams, stock valvetrain.
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Imagine being one of those "it's only a Mustang if it's a V8" guys who owns one of the Coyote V8's then meets one of these at a stop light. Would pay serious money to see that guy's loser face after that inevitable race.
+coinsagE46m3 Sure the ecoboost would win, but even MAP said that the car was a ticking time bomb running 500hp on the stock block. Serious money would have to go into the ecoboost to have it run reliably at 500hp.
Sheepdog416 That's true, sure, but even if the Ecoboost made even 400whp, which it could (and then some) reliably, it would still trounce the Coyote-powered Mustang by a respectable margin as it would have about 30 more whp and weigh less.
+coinsagE46m3 Also true, but I would rather have a stock car that is almost as fast rather than a heavily modded car that's a little bit quicker (imo).
+Sheepdog416 I would too. I personally would rather have the Coyote - powered Mustang than the EcoBoost any day of the week. I however have mad respect for the tunability of the EcoBoost and recognize just how fast they can get. And I think people that dismiss it simply because it doesn't have a V8, despite the power it can make, are fucking ridiculous.
Yeah fair enough! I have a 2015 GT and love the thing. Its definitely insane how much power you can push out of a stock 4cyl though jeez!
best sounding ecoboost i heard yet ,
Agreed
Marius Doiron Agreed, Agreed
This thing actually sounds wicked.
How can I replicate that sound?
Make 500 RWHP
Man, this is super impressive. Still wouldn't trade my 5.0 for anything in a similar price range, but I gotta give credit where credit is due.
Well yea cause the 5.0 burns more ethanol more methane/greenhouse gasses more merica
The Ecoboost Mustang certainly has its place in the market. Where I live there is a $10k price difference between a base Eco vs base GT. Then you need to factor in the added cost of insurance and gas which is also expensive here. My driving is 90% city under 60 km/h. I had a 2011 GT 5.0 and I really couldn't use it anywhere. For someone in my situation who loves the look of the 2015+ design, wants the awesome and refined suspension, and only needs enough power and torque for quick burst here and there, the Ecoboost is a great bang for the buck purchase. Add a Cobb flash tune and the torque easily exceeds the Coyote motor.
This is why I chose my 2015 Ecoboost Premium performance package over a GT. The only thing I did was an Ford Racing CAI and MAP intercooler and a Cobb tune and I had a quiet street sleeper that consistently got over 30mpg on road trips for business and was as fast as GT on the street and I only paid $30k for it new. It was cheap to insure, and actually handled better than the GT due to the lighter weight over the front and squared tire size.
Damn that actually sounds very nice, kinda like a muscle car version s2000 with torque and a nice interior
Get a set of 275 M&Hs and get some timeslips!
This is just simply awesome. I would've never thought that Ford would release an Ecoboost Mustang but now that they did I've been really interested in getting my hands on one. To see that you've made that much of an improvement in power out of that little 2.3 while still using stock everything engine wise kind of seals the deal for me. My wife works for Ford and I get to enjoy a HUGE discount. Looks like a Stang is in my near future! First call is to MAPerformance.
Robert Keeton We are glad to hear you are excited about what we are doing! And we are excited for your call.
+Robert Keeton the name is new but ford made turbo 2.3 mustangs in the late 70's to mid 80's, i think the 79 pace car could have it non intercooled but the most known is the 84-86 SVO mustang. different engine of course than now but same displacement.
If the engine is tuned it's by definition not stock
Sinoops false
this car is proof of the Evostang fad thats been going on. Real car guys know the 4G63 is an awesome motor for racing/power/co$t and this 2.3T will open alot of eyes up to the setup. half as much rotating parts less friction/cheaper builds and spend the money on boost - less fueling at part throttle and more room underhood. Plugs are easy, no need for 2 headers...can go on and on
Please, go on ✒️📝
I'm interested in seeing how long the stock block will last with that much power.
All EcoBoost motors are Overengineered /fortifies. Well known.
@@Davido50 No they are not, who told you that ? The blocks limit is around 450HP at the crank
@@nboy7 well clearly it will hold 500
@@whatsreallygoingon253 Not for very long. The safe limit is around 400 to 450. If you want to run it as a grenade block, then sure youd be able to run 500-700 HP.
@@nboy7 there's videos of ecoboost with 500whp running for 5 years no problems.
Your results give a good indication of how strong the Focus RS motor will be, pretty exciting.
Im a die hard v8 guy but got to drive a new eco boost auto for a week and they are impressive! Dont fuck around and pull up beside one from a dead stop in your v8 and get your feelings hurt! It matchs most v8 cars in hp and tq on most mustangs 2010 and older. With exhaust, tune, cold air intake I have seen 310 rwhp and crazy tq from a 4cyl. thats pushing close to 400 at the crank.
A lot of people don't know ford actually makes the ecoboost engines mostly with forged internals
Javier L he talking about the engine block not the turbo
It's cars like this that make billions of years of evolution worth while.
this is my dream can my first car was a 4 cylinder mustang that was prety weak these new eco boost are the bomb to me
2.3 liter EcoBoost pushing 500hp to the wheels holy shit, that means I could upgrade the turbos on my Gen 2 Raptor and squeeze 800hp EFR 7163 Borg Warner turbos?
Jordan Winders If you want engine to go boom boom in a year
Ooooooooly s#,t that thing sounds amazing 3:59, click for the dyno run. WOW.
wow actually sound pretty good. Best one ive heard actually. I got the 15 5.0 but used to own a ST so big fan of the ecoboost. Cant wait to see the RS roll out though.
This video gives me hope for my EcoBoost. Car sounds amazing. I want that sound
Just give us a call!
@@maperformance what exhaust is being used?
@@maperformance how much does everything cost including labor?
Can not wait man!! I need to start saving. Sounds very expensive.. Lol
I never heard the term "stock block" until I was talking to some ricers. In my understanding, you could either have an aftermarket block or an oem
+MAPerformance ...respectively, the fueling limits your reaching are similar to GM's '08+ 2.0T. It would be impressive to see someone develop a DI/PI fueling system that can be easily programmed with stock ECU, cycle in conjunction with intake vavle position, analyze and adjust fueling tables all at the same time.
Yes please! I've got a ranger and that would be amazing!
I don’t see any mention of the crankshaft not having a keyed snout in the stock 2.3 EcoBoost. We have installed a stock EcoBoost into our full race Ford Cortina GT, with a dry sump system,straight exhaust , large intercooler along with a T5/G-Force gears and Winters mini quick change. Plans are to install a keyed crank and gear over this coming winter. I do not trust the non keyed setup and the disaster that enfolds should that fail, well there goes our motor
4:00....beautiful sound💪
sleeve the block and keep pushing!!!!
Cool build, I hope to see this beast on the streets sometime
And I'm here trying to make 500whp in my GT lmao intake long tubes and full exhaust so far. Next is a tune. I'm prolly at 390 to the wheels right now maybe 400. Good job on this eco 💯
Thank you!! Good luck on your GT, come race us ;]
See what happens when you run even a third of the boost on your GT as they are on this eco... hell you can get one of several warrantied and proven positive displacement supercharger kits on the market and remain otherwise stock and make more power with all the reliability. I know for a fact that at least one company even puts a warranty on the kit and engine... it's a no brainer.
Yall should make parts for Volvos. I have a Volvo 16v turbo. Which I believe this motor might have been derived from
I've never liked American cars I hated their suspension the pompous owners the shitty build quality and the unreliable drive train but yo. something happened over at Ford round about 2010 they started putting out some motherfucking cars. I've driven in a 5.0 2013, it is 100% perfect the suspension setup from dampening to stability is perfect. then there's that engine fuck me running.
I saw a 2015 ecoboost today and I haven't wanted a car this bad since I first saw an evo 9.
I'm saving up my down payment now cause I gotta get that car.
It's the only American muscle car I've ever considered buying it's also the firdt car on a long time to bring back the feeling of wanting a fun car. seriously if your a car guy try one out Ford really killed it
I jumped ship since Honda was taking forever to come out with something good. I really like the car so far, rwd is a blast
Obviously you don't know what you're talking about. I've worked for BMW and now Mercedes and Volvo. ..foreign cars have all kinds of problems
+brianallen0826 let's talk about Foreign cars, the pinnacle Mercedes Benz...every single car on the road has Mercedes Benz DNA in it. Thousands of patents, thousands up technology breakthroughs...but yet Mercedes has a ton of issues, and if you go to any foreign car dealership service dept, you will find a host of issues they try to keep on the down low
I added 600+ hp by throwing on gt350 stickers
I am so getting this car after my BRZ, no question about this. Also, definitely will contact these guys for my mods! Amazing work MAPerformance!
+Miguel S Thanks for the good words Miguel! We look forward to hearing from you.
im pretty sure the torque is crazy high 400+ stock with the cobb tune
All I can say is the Focus RS is going to be a BEAST with all of these upgrades lol!
What about building a 3.5 bi turbo in a Mustang a 650 hp should be easy
That's what the Ford Taurus SHO is for. Plus you have AWD.
will i get a close sound with stock turbo with this exhaust at 4:45 ?
how much for the entire package? even tho it's a 4 cylinder it's pretty fast!
+eric ruiz Check out our Big Turbo Kit: goo.gl/mNf9ou
Give us a call if you have any further questions!
Update on if the stock internals & drivetrain are still holding up after years of pushing 600+ hp??
Anthony Felps following
Now this is what I am talkin' about!
Very impressed. Makes me want to go buy one and start ordering the P2.0 upgrade. Keep up the great work.
mike4speed3 We certainly recommend this! When you do, give us a call.
I've had hell with my eco boost, first the fuel line got clogged then like two weeks later I was about to drive to another city and my car wouldn't start but I finally managed to get it too, then as I was pulling into my friends house I got an over heat error so I popped my hood and the guys at the ford dealership didn't put my intake manifold back together so I was basically driving without an air filter for like 3 weeks
Nice! Sounds great too!
Did u guys keep going on the build? I’d wanna get my ecoboost in that 6-700hp range if it’s possible
Just cop the v8 at that point bro
I’m doing the same things right now, getting a big power build set up , for 600whp-900whp , which is different then the set up for under 700whp. Big power set up uses different block and head, lower power set up also uses different block but retains the factory head which is limited to 700whp and even at those lower level your expecting head lift and air flow problems. That why anything above 650-700whp they use the 4 port ecoboost head , and the lower power is the factory head 2.3 TS head. So really depends what your goals are. Stock ecoboost mustang engine can make 400whp reliable. And only need a nx2 turbo and intercooler to be at 400whp. Above that you need to go into building and bigger turbos
I'd like to know the 0-60 times for the various stages with street tires.
Well done, Guys! This is truly exciting work you are doing. Keep it up! Our 2016 GT is a 5.0 but what you young guys are doing to serve this market is excellent. I wish you all the success you can handle.
+jwyche Thank you for the great feedback! Glad to hear a GT owner can appreciate this. Cheers!
over a year later how is the motor holding up?
Is the EcoBoost engine better than the h22a? And why are the torque figures so high relative to other 4cyl?
the real question is how long will the stock block last with a more conservative ~420hp tune, simply installing the turbo kit?
+United States of Embarrassment You should be pretty safe around that number, but we recommend upgrading internals after around 400whp.
United States of Embarrassment weve ran 10.70s on a stock longblock with 628 passes on it at 34lbs boost and 600cc of water/meth. factory cac piping. 6r80. slightly bigger turbo and full exhaust. est hp around 500/525. only problem were running into is the head bolts under that much boost. put head studs and go
By the time you add up ALL these mods and labour at a good performance shop,(plus the cost of the car) you might be damn close in price to a used 13-14 gt500 !!!!!!!
Crazy that you can make 500WHP on stock fuel system. I know the Focus ST injectors top out at 350WHP. I would of thought that since Focus ST Stock motor can hit 500WHP, the 2.3L could get at least 600WHP. Cool to see that these motors can equally put down about the same amount of power. When will displacement come into effect and be able to beat the 2.0 as far as HP?
Its sounds wired but real nice tho, I can't wait what they'll do with the RS that little rocket is going to be sick just coming from the factory
Which broke first? The engine or the seat bolsters?
price for this build including labor?
The Factory Cranks and blocks are damn stout and will likely hold up quite well with only 500 hp and 450 tq...in the late 80's these blocks and cranks held 600 hp, beefier rqce blocks held 850 hp. Hey also what type of dyno you using...a Mustang dyno? the dream killer dyno as they are known.
3:58 was not expecting that sound woah
Is this engine holding up still this was 9 years ago???
This is a kool build, but it won't last long on stock internals.
I know I already had to rebuild engine at 4,700 miles. BRAND NEW CAR
Adam Hicks you mean you had to rebuild your ecoboost engine damn son where you driving it hard or something?
Adam Hicks how did you rebuild it , I'm looking at upgrading the turbo but idk what i need
what makes you guys think the stock block cant handle much more, or are you more worried about the bottom end? i mean changing sensors and seals would be pretty straight forward but you guys think your gonna blow a sleeve?
sweet fancy Moses 500 HP ecoboost ... god that's a strong motor
Have you heard they made 900 hp ecobeast!
Proud Minnesotan here.
it depends on your driving Europeans have been doing it for years in 1.8 and 2.0
Ever get a number on how many miles the block lasted before it blew up?
sweet build man. Ive always wanted a Mustang. I have had hondas all my life and been looking to get a mustang GT, but something deep down is telling me to get an eco boost. Be easier on my wallet and looks like i can get some good power with a few mods. Also LoL @Van Damme haha
We have been loving the Ecoboost! Either way you go it'll be awesome. Thanks for commenting!
@@maperformance I ended up getting the ecoboost and love it to death :) I just came across my comment from half a year ago LOL
Thonk you guys can put out more video's and fly by's of that exhaust note?
are those 19 wheels?
I'm scouring the internet and I can't find anything about throwing 3.73s in an ecoboost (upgrade from 3.31) in a manual ecoboost. If anyone knows anything about this please let me know I wanna know if it's worth it!
I'd go for a 3.90 or 4.10, but you can bet these cars would _really_ respond to a little gear.
Its crazy how much hate the eco boost gets but I think with some tlc they can gap alot of other cars
How is the mustang holding so far ?
this thing sounds crazy
Very excited to see what you guys are doing with this platform. Just ordered your intercooler kit today and cant wait to get that on along with my methanol setup. Going to try a percentage of e85 as well and a smaller pre turbo meth nozzle (in addition to the one at the tb) and see how much power I can squeeze out of the stock turbo. Once its dust, your turbo kit is next on my list ;)
Everette Stephens Glad to hear it! Thanks for your order. If you have any questions along the way we are happy to help.
I think what makes mad about the ecoboost is it says 310 rwhp, but it means engine not wheel
jordan - R is rear ,as in rear wheel horsepower
This is a preview of what the RS will be putting down, but with AWD.
Lol look where we are now
I wonder what ever happen to this car???
Is the block really that bad in the 2.3 or if u put good internals and made sure everything was oiled good that should hold at least 700hp
put a moded/tuned 3.5 ecoboost in it? if you want to stay true to the EcoBoost name.
Could you outline what you did to the car ? Like all the mods /upgrades .Guys listen to 4:49 on the video so much sauce on that turbo
In the description!
I mean an 18 5.0 can get 500whp with headers, e85, and cai but still nice an ecoboost can get there but idk how reliable it would be
What exhaust set up are you guys running
good video . I'm guessing the direct injection gives a big advantage in making all that power.
Direct fuel injection is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Bad carbon buildup on the intake valves is the only drawback
+samuel lopes You can say that again lol. You can delete the egr system with a proper delete kit and uncheck the code with the right tuning software. Or you can just clean the valves every 40,000 miles. I have to clean mine next month. Good times.
i think most of the buildup comes from the PCV system..
+samuel lopes No sir.
Can't wait to see similar mods to the focus rs. 500hp awd beast
Now wait, at 2:40, you say no removal of anything for the intercooler upgrade, except the old unit. Hmmm :/, your video shows bumper off.
If you watch the actual install video we show both ways, taking the bumper off is easier but not required.
Do you have anything planned for the new Ford Focus RS? Basically same engine with some upgrades from the factory.
+Pepino We are certainly hoping to get our hands on one!
how much power can u expect from a unleashed tune with ur car having aftermarket downpipe y pipe resonator delete to axle backs air intake and intercooler ?
Holy shit that Ecoboost sounds SO GOOD lol damn. 500rwhp?? That's actually insane. I wish the stock block could hold that power without issues... Sigh, if only.... Gunna go binge the rest of the videos you guys have on this Ecobeast.
Hell yeah enjoy! Ended up with over 600whp on the built block.
@@maperformance I enjoyed them for sure, just wished the videos were longer and that you guys had more content of it! :(... Thanks for taking the time to reply to my other comments as well ☝️
My automatic 6 speed would worry me every day if I added that type of power
Much respect
Man I hope you still got this car, how much was it to make the power out of that ecoboost block?
with all of the modifications, would you still consider this a daily driver car? I currently have an 07 WRX and I'm looking for a new car to make a fun/fast daily driver. MPG?
Aside from that, AWESOME build. I love it.
+sclouisvillefan Thanks!! Glad to hear your feedback. Anything up to around 400whp would be fine for a daily. Our turbo kit can get you there no problem and you wont see much change if any at all in MPGs. It certainly is a blast, though! You will love it.
Anything you will be making for a BRZ/FRS?
Reynaldo Balmes We have quite a few products for the platform and are always refining things, check out our FRS & BRZ landing page: goo.gl/FVyiL0
About to get a track pack performance pack 2018 ecoboost and I'm super excited. I used to own an ND miata but someone ran a red light and totalled it. Wanted to get another fun car and my roommate recently got an s550 ecoboost and let me drive it a bit. It's such a good platform and actually handles incredibly well (honestly imo even better than my miata). How hard would you say it is to tune this car and what would you recommend for a first time owner?
That's bad ass, just it's crazy I'm not used to hearing a mustang sound like that, doesn't have that deep muscle car sound like the 5.0
ford, or any ofher manufacture, makes a lower cost and more fuel efficient model for people who may not want the biggest and badest version, and uses parts sufficient enough to serve its purpose. They aren't going to spend more money over engineering the car or it'll cost as much as the one with the bigger engine. Thats why I bought my 2011 v6 fully loaded. It was that or a GT with no options. Its not always about wanting the car with the most power.
once a motor has been tested and desinged the cost isnt as expensive as you imagine. yes the birth stage of the motor does cost due to tests and what not but when they redisign like they do every new model it makes since to make a motor more capable of power handling. after its desinged and made the motor goes through a rushed line that creates 100s of motors a day, the cost is minimal to the company. example is bmw. they produces on one line at spartanburg about 900 cars a day. there is two per plant and there is many plants. it goes through a cnc and is made off one program. ford just bumped up the power of the new 2018 ecoboost with simply a new cam and crank added. if they sleeved or designed better piston or stronger block it could easliy make better power with tunning. but stock make a strong and fuel efficent motor
Mention that at the track. I’m sure people will agree.
But how much $$$ does it take to reliably equal a 5.0 that has just a tune?
The Dyno chart left me speechless.
At the boost pressure they're running, (29 psi if I remember correctly) they're only making 500??? Call me crazy, but aren't there a lot of 2ish liter turbo 4 cylinders making more power at lower boost? Seems a letdown honestly
Those people are using bigger turbos. A bigger turbo can make more power at a lower boost level, but they take longer to spool.
Need 500hp in my Fiesta ST
not the same motor nor same capabilities. direct inject helps run higher boost safely than you'll see without going full ethanol or race fuel.
+TRMN8R03 There are daily driven St's with 375whp. That should be plenty for a car that small.
+riothero313 im wanting 400awhp in the RS I have coming in March/April
TRMN8R03
That's actually probably the perfect power level for that car. The fiesta's are absolute animals with just 300whp and they still retain all of their great handling characteristics. I imagine 400hp would be amazing with awd. I just hope they can keep the weight down in the RS.
+riothero313 I've heard 3400lbs
Anyone ever told you the tuner guy from Cobb looks alot like JCVD its like looking at a picture....
Where is Phase 2?
I see P1 and P1.5
Trying to decide if I should build up my 15 EBM over time by purchasing part for part
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or if it is better to buy a package like the P1.5 or P2 because of the possible savings and R&D behind it.
Thanks
Also note the Aux Fuel system I have seen an install for on AM if I recall is no where to be found.
Search results online showed a picture of it next to the original store page link but when I click it only unrelated universal Aeromotive systems appear.
Is that Adam before he left MAP?
The Ford Supra!
+Peter Grooms Shit they should put a 3.5 ecoboost in the mustang
No the ford "supra" is the aussie barra motor 4lt turbo six
Almost no lag
2015 ecobeast here how much in total would it be to get to this power?
paint the intercooler black. they work so much better. anyone that doubts me look it up.