Is High End Steel Bike Better than Carbon???

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  • čas přidán 6. 12. 2021
  • How I rescued and Built out a 2006 Bianchi Pinella made out of Boron Steel to be comparable to modern Carbon frames.
    In this video I share how I found and restored this steel frame. I also go through my thought process to give the bike a modern feel in its ride characteristics.
    Frameset: 2006 Bianchi Pinella 53cm
    Fork: Bianchi Full Carbon from FG Lite
    Headset: Chris King 1 1/8
    Stem: FSA Pantani Tribute
    HndlBr: Deda Superlegerro 42cm
    SeatPst: Deda Superlegerra 27.2
    Saddle: Selle Italia SLR Boost Kit Carbonio 130
    Calipers: Campagnolo Super Record 11
    Levers: Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed
    R Derr: Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed
    F Derr: Campagnolo Record 10 speed
    Crank: Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed Ultra Torque 52/39 172.5
    Wheels: Fulcrum Racing One
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  • @cyclingnerddelux698
    @cyclingnerddelux698 Před rokem +44

    Great to hear from someone who so passionate about bikes. It is really hard to fide such a real and balanced discussion on the difference between carbon and steel. Even though I ride carbon bikes, I still love the classics and wish I still had some of the bikes I rode in the 80s and 90s. Greets from Austria.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +3

      Thank you Cyclingnerd! Yes, I love them all.
      I recently spent 10 days in Austria with 4 days on the bike. Beautiful country👍🏾

  • @wordsmithgmxch
    @wordsmithgmxch Před rokem +27

    Brave man! To buy a frame like you did, to go that deep into the weeds with the repair / restoration / remanufacture: wow: You have my respect. I'm happy it turned out so well for you!

  • @jeremynorth
    @jeremynorth Před 4 měsíci +3

    I love this episode and your passion for this bike. Your description of riding a steel frame is spot on.

  • @yishaithegift9953
    @yishaithegift9953 Před rokem +11

    Your breakdown of bicycle knowledge is very much appreciated. I live here in Miami as well. I absolutely love cycling but I'm a noob. One thing you've mentioned that was spot on is the weight difference as it regards to momentum. I'm 6'2" 185 I own a Cannondale R400 it has stock RSX components with Mavic Aksium Race wheels, with hutchingson gold tires. Now I've always wanted to ride a carbon bike with all the bells and whistles. One day a co-worker of mine brought his BMC teammachine to work. I was blown away with the weight difference between the two bikes. He laughed saying I need a lighter bike. So on lunch break I took his bike for a 3 mile ride. First thing I noticed is that it takes off like a bullet! Not gonna lie I was flying! But I did feel like to sustain the momentum I had to keep pedaling whereas with my cannondale it seemed to hold its momentum through my cadence. I didn't feel like I was wasting energy. I get up to speed and the bike stays there. Especially in a headwind. The carbon BMC required more effort to fight the drag of the headwind. Like throwing a paper plane in front of a fan. But my cannondale was actually fun in a headwind. I could go faster with less effort even on the hoods because the weight of the bike isn't slowed down by the opposing wind. It's simple science when you think about it. So I can understand 100% your rationale with steel frames. But that BMC is definitely fun to ride. That acceleration and top end speed is exhilarating! And I love the sound it makes.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +2

      Cool story... it's trying to find the balance of acceleration and momentum👍🏾

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos Před rokem +16

    Great narration and story. I agree with you that steel frames do a great job of dampening the road; they are comfortable on longer rides.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +2

      Thank you Dos Gos! They most certainly do.👍🏾

    • @jacklauren9359
      @jacklauren9359 Před rokem

      Good for racing longer events like half ironman distance and grand fondo? Or better to get titanium?

  • @newoldsteel
    @newoldsteel Před rokem +9

    YES YES YES I 100% agree with you on everything you said. I own 4 steel frame bikes and seriously have such a blast on them. Most of the time if not 99% of the time you can keep up with riders because fitness and aerodynamic position is most important. It's rare when I can't keep up but it's because they professionally race. I'm In Vegas with huge hills and I feel like the liveliness of steel bikes springs you to the next pedal stroke, and it seriously feels like that energy you put in gets returned when climbing. I'm definitely subbing to your channel too!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you NewOldSteel! Sounds like uou are having a lot of fun out there.

  • @roblucchetti2993
    @roblucchetti2993 Před rokem +9

    I call my late 80's DeRosa my "Caddy" - it's one of those early types of steel that just dance with you. It's not the best for climbing or sprinting as there's simply too much flex, but for pure enjoyment and comfort to relatively quick, you can't beat it.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Hi Rob! Thank you for sharing that. It sounds like that bike puts a big smile on your face 👍🏾

  • @joedizzelfoerizle
    @joedizzelfoerizle Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for putting in the time and helping us new guys out! 💪😎🇺🇸

  • @wplg
    @wplg Před 2 lety +6

    Great presentation!
    Framing, audio, video, editing, B-Roll, and even mic placement is on point.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks Harold. Coming from your professional abilities, this means so much to me.

  • @jamesdelgado2009
    @jamesdelgado2009 Před 2 lety +4

    Always nice to take something unloved and through planning and dedication, create something spectacular that you never want to give up. I did this with my Tesch S-22. Bought the frame off eBay, sent it to a specialist who fixed a couple of areas, and then painted it a deep red. Built it up originally with 9-speed Dura-Ace 7410 and 7700 25th Anniversary components and just recently re-built it with an 11-speed Campy Record group, Thomson cockpit, and Boyd ceramic wheelset running Conti GP5000S TRs. Awesome ride.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety

      Hi James. Thanks for sharing that... I am imagining your build in that red and it sounds stunning.
      I couldn't agree more. I get a lot of satisfaction from these projects.

  • @sondergaardjan
    @sondergaardjan Před rokem +1

    Super impressed by you taking on that project. Amazing and beautiful outcome.

  • @dinodaniel2237
    @dinodaniel2237 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video !
    Couldn't agree with you more, nothing beats the feel of a good steel frame on the road.
    All the best!

  • @marcmommaas5397
    @marcmommaas5397 Před rokem +16

    Thank you for this wonderful video, really enjoyed this, love the passion and can't agree more. I am riding my cinelli supercorsa with sram red/force mix electronic groupset. An amazing feel to ride this bike, definitely not as fast as carbon, but lighter than you might expect. Holds speed, climbs well, accelerates well, is forgiving with ny roads, and above all, I just want to keep riding it, love it so much. I travel and rent carbon bikes for fun, but I always miss my cinelli which always puts a smile on my face.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +3

      Thank you Marc! Cinelli Super Corsa with sram Red sounds delightful. Enjoy the miles my friend.

  • @jffydavy5509
    @jffydavy5509 Před rokem +12

    Great video. When I started riding/racing bicycles steel was the only material for bike frames. I learned how to read the road through double butted, lugged frames. The feel (language) of a steel frame is still in my head and I have better control of my steel frames than aluminum, titanium or carbon frames. Carbon frames are more 'comfortable' via shock absorbing but that quality effects my speed and confidence because it hides the connection between my wheels and the pavement. Carbon is not bad, I just connect to a steel frame better than frames made of other materials. My bamboo frame was very comfortable but I would never try to be aggressive when riding it.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +2

      Thank you Jeff! You are echoing very well what so many have shared with me. 👍🏾

  • @jasonbannan4024
    @jasonbannan4024 Před 9 měsíci

    Great story. I'm glad it turned out so nice for you. Your cycling passion, knowledge and personal experience are refreshing to listen to.

  • @Roadcycling901
    @Roadcycling901 Před rokem

    I’m so glade to have found you please don’t stop posting.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Hi Clinton! I am glad you found us as well. Thanks for watching.

  • @jamesajjr72
    @jamesajjr72 Před 2 lety +16

    Really enjoyed the video! Very thorough! I just recently got my hands on an 87 Trek Elance that built up with 105 components and replaced wheels with Fulcrum Racing One’s. I was really able to shed significant pounds, but haven’t weighed the bike as of yet. Truth as mentioned “Carbon feels a bit flimsy” I concur with that statement! My Cervelo R1 takes off like a rocket and climbs like a mountain goat. However, it does not have that powerful robust feeling like the old steel Trek. The Trek has become my 1st choice in all my riding situations lately. I’ll my Cervelo just to go out on super jaunts around my neighborhood. The Steel is Real!!👍

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Jay! Thanks for sharing about your Elan build and your ride impressions. I hope you enjoy many miles and good rides... Fulcrum Racing Ones are eeally tough to beat👍🏾

  • @wm.b.bowman2634
    @wm.b.bowman2634 Před 2 lety +7

    Loved the vid!
    Been 16+ years since riding. Recently retired and pulled my mid 1990s Landshark custom steel out of mothballs and upgraded it from 1995 8 speed Campy Chorus to 2021 12 speed Campy Chorus. Wow!!
    I own a Cannondale R900 Aluminum and a Lightspeed titanium and neither compares to the comfort and responsiveness of the steel Landshark!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +2

      Wow! I hope more people beging doing what you did. Thanks for sharing.

  • @richardpartington7523

    Terrific video. Informative, reflective, personal but not self-focused, eloquent, rational and persuasive. Improved my morning! Thank you.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Wow! Thank you for that Richard... it is very gracious of you.

  • @brianfarrelly7151
    @brianfarrelly7151 Před rokem

    Your passion for bikes is obvious and I thoroughly enjoyed your Bianchi story. Well done, thanks.

  • @junktionfet
    @junktionfet Před rokem +4

    Stunning bike! And you're right... there is something about steel. I love my current carbon Giant TCR Adv and just how light and responsive it feels, but my project Peugeot PSN-10 (Super Vitus 980 tubing) feels absolutely alive. It tingles; Somehow the feel of the road filters through so much more. And really, it's not terribly heavy for a steelie.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Joe! Those are two great bikes you have. Enjoy the ride 👍🏾

  • @anthonyharris483
    @anthonyharris483 Před 2 lety +7

    I like steel frames over carbon because of the springiness especially for cyclocross and singletrack. I've club raced bikes back in the 80s and 90s and our team bikes were steel Scapins at the time beautiful riding bikes. Over the years I've road magnesium, titanium, aluminum and carbon but I always felt that quality steel tubing road the best.

  • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
    @user-jv9qz2bu1r Před rokem

    Enjoy the storytelling pace and video work - I subbed. I have a 53 CM Mondonico steel bike from year 2000 and you inspire me to take it out today. Yr. bike is beautiful - enjoy it!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      And that J is what this is all about... I am glad you took it out today. Enjoy the ride. Thank you!!!

  • @frankducett9
    @frankducett9 Před rokem

    Very few people around these days that have your knowledge and insight. I am delighted to have found you.
    Thanks!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Frank! Hopefully more will share their experience... because they are out there.

  • @howardleckey2089
    @howardleckey2089 Před 2 lety +13

    Love it bro. I’m a 60 year old ex racer. I have ridden all materials but Steel is my choice for most rides. Needs to be the highest end tubing from whichever manufacturer and usually performs consistent and comfortable over a long day in the saddle. Colnago Master light is still my favorite allrounder for pure feel. Thanks for sharing that beautiful steed!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you Sir. Colnago Master is indeed an epic ride. I owned a Colnago Conic SLX for several years and literally did everything on that bike. Keep pedaling... you are an inspiration

    • @Mottleydude1
      @Mottleydude1 Před 2 lety +8

      You must be my doppelgänger. I’m the same age. I’ve owned carbon, steel and aluminum (all high end) and I’m a former USCF Cat 3. My first two racing bikes going back to the mid to late 80’s were entry level racing bikes (a Raleigh Technium and a Schwinn Premise). My first high end bike was a Schwinn Paramount I bought in 93. During my racing years I also owned a Cannondale, a Trek Madone, a Scott Carbon frame I set up for TT.
      When I stopped racing I ended up getting rid of all my bikes except the Paramount. In 2012 I bought a Raleigh International Frame that’s made from Reynolds 873 with investment cast hand crafted chrome plated lugs. It also came with a duel crown chrome fork. I did not build it up to be a racing bike but more of a high end enthusiast bike. I matched the frame with Campy Athena, Mavic Ksyrium elite wheels and a Brooks B-17 saddle. Weighs 18.5 lb. I could have dropped another 2lbs by going all carbon with the fork and components and a lighter saddle but since I was no longer racing I decided to prioritize ride quality over weight. I’m glad I did. It has the best ride quality of any bike I’ve owned though my Paramount is pretty close…which is why I kept it…that and it’s a beautiful bike.
      I have a science background in biology, chemistry and materials science and I can tell you from my personal investigations that outside of climbing an ultra light carbon frame has little if any advantages on a high end steel bike but the costs are steeply different and I prefer that road feel steels high modulus of elasticity (aka Young’s Modulus) has.
      With the durability steel has this may be the last bike I buy.

  • @BrianRPaterson
    @BrianRPaterson Před 2 lety +9

    I like riding metal. I started on steel, moved on to aluminium, and I still ride a Cannondale XS800 on the road and a bit of gravel.
    But I've never really trusted carbon to last.

  • @timmallard5360
    @timmallard5360 Před 2 lety +1

    Great story! I love a bike build that goes past bolting on parts and gets custom.

  • @justinnorrie3594
    @justinnorrie3594 Před rokem

    Such a cool video. Glad I found it. Loved the Pantani Bianchi bikes back in the day.

  • @grommit700
    @grommit700 Před 2 lety +4

    Hi. Great video! I made the switch from Trek carbon to a custom steel frame two years ago (after the carbon frame broke). I love my steel frame more than my carbon because like you said in the video, when me and the bike go over a bump, it's absorbed a lot and more comfortable to "hit" that it was with my carbon frame (and carbon wheels). Carbon was nice and lightweight, but it was almost too stiff for me because between my small height and 155lb body mass. My steel frame is high quality material imported from Italy (Columbus). From day one, I've been using aero alloy wheels (Rim brake HED Jet RC4 black, RC4 Plus, and now Bontrager Aeolus Comp 5 TLR). The HED wheels were 25mm whereas the Bontrager wheels are 23. Overall, I love my setup because I believe between my body mass, and lower center of gravity, 23mm and a steel frame enable me to feel more comfortable for 40, 50, 60+ rides where comfort is a must have.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing. That Stainless tubeset sounds dreamy

  • @chesterthomas5093
    @chesterthomas5093 Před rokem +10

    Loved the video and agree with everything you said. Also really appreciate your taste in bikes! Bianchi, Merckx, Сolnago… . I’ve owned all manner of aluminum,steel, ti, and now carbon bikes. Had a Ti Eddy Merckx road bike for 20 years, sold it last year and got a Ritte Phantom with Reynolds’s steel frame. Love it! Always wanted a Bianchi, love the Celeste. Bought a carbon Orbea Terra last year, had it painted a very similar color. Carbon’s great, but steel is real!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank ypu Chester! It has been a blessing to own those brands and I have enjoyed them thoroughly.

    • @splashpit
      @splashpit Před rokem

      Would kill for a Ti Mercks but can’t afford one.

  • @aouric105
    @aouric105 Před rokem +1

    I really enjoyed this review, I’m a novice rider here in Michigan and weighing my options between a steel frame and carbon road bike, you clip got me thinking wisely for my next choice, thanks.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Hi Evan! Thank you for that... I hope you find something nice.👍🏾

  • @pavel55339
    @pavel55339 Před rokem

    Love your video you have lots of knowledge about road bikes as a Sunday rider I always fine fascinated old and new technology!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you pavel55339! I appreciate that 👍🏾

  • @jeffparnell5805
    @jeffparnell5805 Před rokem +15

    Your assessment toward the end regarding carbon vs still is spot-on with my own experience with carbon frames and steel frames. I decided to get a Gunnar Roadie, I feel like I could ride all day on steel, even regardless of the road surface.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +3

      Thank you Jeff! The dampening is a great benefit.

    • @SurpriseMeJT
      @SurpriseMeJT Před rokem +1

      I have a Roadie and a CrossHairs, which I use as an all-road bike. Gunnar's are great bikes and since I do not race, I have no intention of getting a carbon road bike.

  • @martindrazsky7451
    @martindrazsky7451 Před rokem +14

    You have a very beautiful bike there, congratulations! Absolutely agree on the feel of steel bikes. Very recently, I finished the build of a Pegoretti Responsorium, with Campy Bora aero wheels, disk brakes and a mechanical Super Record 12 groupset. It is not the very lightest bike (just short of 9 kg) but ride comfort is out of this world and yes, somehow, past 30km/h, it seems to settle in tempo and help me pedal - I described it as a "flywheel feeling" when I spoke to my bike builder just a week ago :) Very different from carbon and even titanium.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      That is a phenomenal bike Marty! Congratulations and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @andrewwolfenden908
      @andrewwolfenden908 Před rokem

      I have the same feeling exactly with my Argos Racing Cycles Audax. Jan Heine calls it ‘planing’, but the experience is exactly as you describe, a feeling of flywheeling, a forward propulsion seemingly coming from nowhere.

    • @Sills71
      @Sills71 Před rokem +1

      My RIM brake Duende in size 53cm weighs 7.7kg with Super Record and Hed Arendes.

    • @martindrazsky7451
      @martindrazsky7451 Před rokem

      @@Sills71 My Respo is size 56. Apart from the larger frame size, the little extra weight probably comes from my choice of a seatpost (Cane Creek eeSilk) and pedals (Look X-Track Carbon/Ti). Also Brooks leather bar tape. My little concessions to comfort that add a few grams here and a few grams there :)

  • @timothyhall6696
    @timothyhall6696 Před rokem

    I was overwhelmed watching this...the content.....is great !!
    I have nothing exotic here...just an old 1975 Schwinn Continental (steel frame for tall riders) and a 2015 Cannondale Synapse (tall).....
    I needed some pure inspiration to get back out there....thanks and keep up the great work....from Pittsburgh, PA.

  • @PathfinderGregg
    @PathfinderGregg Před 3 měsíci

    That's an awesome looking bike!!

  • @ghostofgw7781
    @ghostofgw7781 Před 2 lety +5

    Your Bianchi is really a work of art congratulation, colours are just beautiful. I ride both carbon and steel, both built are similar , carbon tubular wheel on both. My Hampsten steel bike is the one I choose first whitout any hesitation for travel like in the Pyrennes. Its a mix of Columbus life and spirit with an Enve fork 1.0 rake of 50. Going down the cols its like being on a rail. I have this bike built by simple curiosoty after all these debates about carbon vs steel and I had no regrets at all. I like my carbon bike but my steel bike is more of "organic feel". I prefer the overall experience of my steel bike which is why I love cycling.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for sharing that! Your story brought a smile to my face.

  • @chube1
    @chube1 Před rokem +3

    Greetings from Ireland. Nice vid but, no offence, even nicer bike 😉! A man who clearly loves his bikes, you summed up the steel/carbon ride feels perfectly. I can remember being a little freaked out first time i noticed the visible flex at bb on a 531c frame when really applying the power. But that's what steel did - in a weird way it kinda absorbed what you put into it and, stored it for a moment, smoothed things out, and then propelled you forward ... without ever feeling sluggish. Great for descending. (I've over-thought this stuff too 😄).

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Greetings Chube1! Non taken. Thank you for sharing your ride feel experience on that 531 frame... it is great to have these awesome machines tonthink about 👍🏾

  • @victorkhong7654
    @victorkhong7654 Před rokem

    Thank you for this video and your words and description. Really enjoyed!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Victor, I am glad you enjoyed it👍🏾

  • @davidhughes5564
    @davidhughes5564 Před rokem

    I had a Bianchi back in the 70’s and then I had a Bottechia with Columbus tubing and presently ride a Fuji Roubaix with carbon forks and stays and I have a Vitus 979 which is a story in itself! I love your story and always hold Bianchi in high esteem!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you David! I remember those Vitus frames... keep on enjoying that ride.

  • @WillMahler
    @WillMahler Před 2 lety +32

    Great final build, Luis! Yes, the Boron-enriched Pinella frame is the unsung hero for the brand. Note to mention that the extremely thin steel tubing has Boron added during the smelting process to increase the strength of the tubeset... Boron has been used in side impact crash beams on Mercedes vehicles, etc. Strong and lightweight!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you Will. Always appreciate hearing your insights and passion about this brand!

    • @robertmcfadyen9156
      @robertmcfadyen9156 Před rokem

      Mainly rollcages in motor racing .

  • @PerpetualDarkMatter
    @PerpetualDarkMatter Před rokem +3

    Absolutely on point with the momentum on carbon. VERY well put. I’ve had a Carbon bike for around 8-years and I would like to go back to metal, I think.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Don! Lots of great frame options out there for builds. 👍🏾

  • @stevenr5149
    @stevenr5149 Před rokem

    I like how the steel communicates the vibration, sound and song of the road to me. My awesome 42mm Babyshoe pass extra light compass tires are so sweet with my steel frame. The combination of giant tires with high-end materials with low rolling resistance is magic for me. :) I feel like I am riding on clouds with great speed and handling-and a great connection to the road.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing that StevenR! 👍🏾

  • @jojoanggono3229
    @jojoanggono3229 Před rokem

    Impressive restoration and paint work.

  • @bootsauce47
    @bootsauce47 Před 2 lety +3

    I’m not a Roadie. I’m definitely a gravel enthusiast.
    I have carbon bike and a steel bike. The 7:57 made me think how my steel bike feels. I thought it was in my head. Going uphill and upwind past a farmers field on broken tarmac. I feel the steel bike holds momentum/stability better in those conditions. I don’t feel as beat up in my steel bike either.
    I can’t prove it in a court of law, nor scientifically.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety

      😂 sometimes it's hard to put into words... but in this case, it's the feeling that matters.

  • @erklng
    @erklng Před rokem +8

    Cool insights. I've been on a Ritchey Road Logic with very thin tubing - best ride quality I've ever experienced. Recently built up a very light carbon frame (Factor O2). In terms how steel handles tarmac imperfections: steel transmits a rounded, low-frequency thump that feels reassuring. Carbon transmits differently: the feel is edgier, higher frequency, more brittle and hollow. Tires, tire pressure, wheels, contact points don't change this core characteristic. Also interesting: the stiffness of carbon also adds subtle discomfort when you're putting down the power; there's almost too much resistance. The planing people speak of with steel contributes to comfort over the course of a ride. It also lets you feel part of the bike, rather than pushing against it.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for your insight Erik. Ritchey Logic is an amazing frame to own. Enjoy the miles!👍🏾

  • @hatbpto5180
    @hatbpto5180 Před rokem +1

    Lifetime bike guy here. This video rocks! 👍

  • @knoxm304
    @knoxm304 Před rokem

    I love your aesthetics. Well done sir!

  • @pepessz32
    @pepessz32 Před 2 lety +3

    I've only ridden a steel bike for a couple ride, but I think steel bike has that "Solid" feeling while you're on it especially in high speed. It's such a mystery, I don't know if it's about the momentum or anything, but subjectively riding on a steel is a whole different experience than alloy or carbon.
    Definitely gonna add a steel for my next bike someday. I can give you my words for it.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you Rino. You are correct, that feel is a mystery that has baffled cyclists for decades

    • @juanpecan7089
      @juanpecan7089 Před rokem +1

      There's also the planing effect, when the steel frame flexes in rhythm with your pedaling.

  • @xaviermelendez2639
    @xaviermelendez2639 Před rokem

    Hey Luis, first time on your channel and have to say this is a really genuine and insightful review. Good job!

  • @johnking4484
    @johnking4484 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video! I have a 2003 Lemond Zurich, and I love riding it. Steel is most definitely real. I did a metric century last weekend on a carbon frame on some paved farming roads and I took a pretty severe shaking. I don’t remember that on my steel frame. You also brought up a great point about inertia. I was on some flat Michigan roads, and I had to pedal nearly the whole time to keep speed. Again, great video! Keep them coming!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you John! I really appreciate you sharing that experience with us. 👍🏾

  • @lv2keepfit493
    @lv2keepfit493 Před 11 měsíci +1

    An answer to the title before watching the video in my opinion absolutely YES!

  • @scotthuber6361
    @scotthuber6361 Před 2 lety +1

    Enjoyed the video, my first serious road bike was a Bianchi Giro 8speed. I always loved the Pantani XL ev bikes but some of them had a problem with the head tube welding. A friend of mine that owns a local bike shop bought one one time and found sure enough when he took the headset off to inspect that the head tube was cracked. The bike looked perfect. So make sure you inspect those frames carefully. At one time the Pantani XL ev frame was my dream bike.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety

      Thank you Scott! Yep, I've had the cracked headtube issue... which was really an issue on the Aluminum models like EV4 and EV2. Incredible riding bikes though.

  • @MrKikou77
    @MrKikou77 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for sharing Sir.Your Boron is superb,I never left steel with a Wilier Columbus EL/os and a Bianchi Columbus Genius that I treasure like you, I have a Daccordi too ! The Carbon let's leave it to those who want high tech.Marco Pantani he has never had a Boron in the race,amateur he had a superb Dosi Columbus EL,after at Carrera the first season he had a steel custom Columbus MAX then quickly on ALTEC aluminum,I saw him with a chrono bike in Genius,his 98 XL evo was in Dedacciai aluminum 7000.On the other hand in 98 some from Mercatone rode on Boron XL evo as Stefano Garzelli,the Carrera Asics team also used the Boron in 98.Thank you for your beautiful presentation and steel forever !!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety +1

      Wow! Thank you Jean Paul. That was amazing information you shared. I have always wanted an EL/OS and will own one someday. Congratulations on those wonderful bikes.👍🏾

  • @englishteacherdon
    @englishteacherdon Před rokem

    I love the explanation! I love both carbon and steel and find I am happiest when I alternate between the 2 rides.

  • @bretchernoff6654
    @bretchernoff6654 Před rokem

    Loved your insight, inspiring video!

  • @alpererdogan8682
    @alpererdogan8682 Před rokem

    So warm explanation, I like to listen

  • @robertchubb1518
    @robertchubb1518 Před rokem

    Superb honest from the heart review...

  • @jasoncostanzo5337
    @jasoncostanzo5337 Před rokem

    Stunning build!

  • @ErnestStackhouse
    @ErnestStackhouse Před 2 lety +1

    Enjoy your content! Beautiful bike! 👍🏾

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 2 lety

      Thank you Ernest! I appreciate the support.

  • @cribbsprojects
    @cribbsprojects Před rokem

    You really deserve more subscribers! Keep up the inspiring work!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Cribbsprojects! I appreciate that.

  • @paullarsen9559
    @paullarsen9559 Před rokem

    Thanks for your video. I was a proud owner of a Bianchi XL/ Boron 2002? with campy centaur 10 speed. I used it for years then lent it out to a friend. Got it back in a couple of years and then gave it to a young man who was interested in getting into cycling. We turn it into a build project so we could work on it together. If I could find another LX/Boron frame I may build it into my steel bike again.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Way to pay it forward Paul! I love to hear those types of stories. Hope you find one 👍🏾

  • @bentech-oj4rp
    @bentech-oj4rp Před rokem

    Looks amazing. Simply WOW

  • @GotDamBoi
    @GotDamBoi Před rokem

    man that is a beautiful bike. love the color scheme

  • @lesliereissner4711
    @lesliereissner4711 Před rokem

    After waiting 33 years, I finally got around to having my white 1989 Bianchi Limited refinished in proper celeste and it is clearly faster than before! Enjoyable video and I agree that there is not much to match high-end steel but not only for ride quality but also aesthetics. My custom 2014 Tommasini (Columbus Nemo) draws far more attention than my other bikes and it looks like a piece of art as well as offering a lively and comfortable ride. I noted your comment about carbon frames letting you know you are going over bad surfaces as I will shortly take delivery of a pristine 1998 Colnago C40 Mk II, which is reputed to give a magic carpet ride even when not at Paris-Roubaix. Steel, carbon, aluminum, titanium--on a well-made bike they all work.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thanks Leslie! No doubt the Celeste alone is a watt saver😂.
      That Tomassini sounds awesome to ride. You will enjoy your C40... there is a good reason it has such a huge following. 👍🏾

  • @michaelchin3550
    @michaelchin3550 Před rokem

    Love the color scheme of your Bianchi.

  • @jima6930
    @jima6930 Před rokem

    Great bikes, love the paint!

  • @Mauriciograble
    @Mauriciograble Před rokem

    Incredible work!

  • @rickeverett3304
    @rickeverett3304 Před 2 lety

    You make me want to get the OLTRE XR4 not because the steel argument isnt right, but because you show passion for the collection. thanks

  • @nellyx1x493
    @nellyx1x493 Před rokem

    Gorgeous bike that Pinella. Paint job is ace.

  • @rothgartheviking858
    @rothgartheviking858 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That is one great looking bike!!!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you. Watch for a follow up video on it today.

  • @Myiata1979
    @Myiata1979 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful bike!I love this old road bikes, Italian bikes are a must!

  • @edwardairesii5729
    @edwardairesii5729 Před rokem

    Awesome job buddy!!!! I used to ride and train in Vero Beach, when I was on spring break. Love Florida. Loved the video.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Edward! Thanks for sharing that and watching

  • @tenrec
    @tenrec Před rokem

    This was fascinating and enjoyable to watch.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Tenrec🙏🏾
      I appreciate you watching!

  • @michaelthompson7196
    @michaelthompson7196 Před rokem

    Great video - showed this to my wife so she can see there's someone out there more obsessed with Bianchi steel road bikes than I am. I have one thing to add - I rebuilt my '92 Bianchi Project 5 cross bike into a touring bike, and recently was out on a week long tour with a few pals. One guy rode a carbon frame, and on a very long paved mountain descent with severe crosswinds, he felt like his bike was coming apart, or flexing in the wrong places and making bike handling really tough. Panniers full of camping gear exacerbated the problem, but my Bianchi was solid. Full disclosure - the Project 5 frame is a TANK, making my bike a good 7-8 pounds heavier than his. Thanks for your videos, Luis!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Michael! Great story... I am going to tell my wife that you are more bike crazy than me😂😂😂.
      Ride well my friend 👍🏾

  • @oresteh.bernal8748
    @oresteh.bernal8748 Před rokem

    Great bike I actually owned a Raleigh clubman with a chromoly steel frame from 2000 ,been seating in a garage for years until this lady put it for sale ,what a beautiful bike and it rides phenomenal

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thanks Oreste! Keep enjoying that ride.👍🏾

  • @playmoreguitar5393
    @playmoreguitar5393 Před rokem +1

    I am an absolute steel convert. Steel Frame, Steel Arundel cages. Spent 12 years on fancy carbon bikes. Last 2 years on steel, never ridden further, or more comfortably than this bike. Love it. I am going to keep this steel machine and get a Ti frame 29er drop bar next. I am all for longevity, steel and titanium are going to give you that. The rest is irrelevant. I cannot see myself ever getting on a carbon bike again.. Seriously!! Subbed as well. Channel looks amazing!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      PlayMoreGuitar! Thank you 👍🏾
      Seems more and more people are going that way.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před rokem

      Welcome to the party...ya carbon is overrated...

  • @fifthcircle1
    @fifthcircle1 Před rokem +1

    New subscriber here. Your vids have inspired me to spruce up my old road bike (2006 LeMond Buenos Aires, steel/carbon). I ride primarily gravel and mountain, as idiots with cell phones behind the wheel has scared me off of road. I'll probably keep to mostly bike paths, but I'm excited about the old bike. I have a lot of history on it, doing triathlons and all the training for those on it. Anyway, I like the content! Cheers!!

  • @worldofameiso5491
    @worldofameiso5491 Před 2 lety

    I have the 1998 version of this bike, triple butted boron steel - 63cm in the Mercatone uno colour scheme like yours. Beautiful bike and rides so well. Happy riding to you.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you my friend. I hope you enjoy yours as well.

  • @yham47
    @yham47 Před rokem

    I own a Tange double butted tubing 1988 model frame and I think I appreciated it more by watching this video. 💯

  • @tommyo_o3897
    @tommyo_o3897 Před rokem

    Dude, that bike is ART.. thanks for sharing so beutifull bike...

  • @christophertrapp4195
    @christophertrapp4195 Před rokem

    This is one sexy machine! I have a late 80's Pinarello Montello I built with polished Campy Athena 11 speed for that vintage look. I subscribe to the same thought process when it comes to steel vs. carbon.. It's a freight train on the flats and isn't too shabby on climbs. Riders on spicy group rides are shocked it will keep up with ease. It's an absolute blast to ride.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Christopher! Enjoy that Montello. I love those as well as the Treviso in Red with the Cinelli bb cable guides. Great bike to own.

  • @johnmininger7472
    @johnmininger7472 Před rokem

    My first serious road bike, way back in the 80's, was a Bianchi ... and I'm just popping in to say that after all these years ... I am still in love with that Bianchi color, lol.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Lol. Thanks John! Once you get bitten by Celeste, you are all in 👍🏾

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 Před rokem +2

    Great looking Bianchi.. I still have the Bianchi that I raced on from 1995 to 1999. It is a Racing Department frame made from Columbus TSX Ultra Light shaped tubing. I built it up with Campy 8 speed Chorus. It was a great bike for racing Criteriums. It could carve through high speed turns like butter. The only problem was that the frame was listed as having a "weight limit" of 180 pounds. I discovered that as I tended to inch over that weight limit, up to 190 pounds, after a few years, the bike no longer loved to counter steer through turns. 27 years later, it still rides like butter in a straight line, but is not happy flying through turns. It's still set up with a ITM eclipse stem, and an ITM Pro 260 bar. Celeste frame and Bar tape......PS Chrome chain and seat stays, Look PP76 pedals, and SI Flite saddle.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Wow Bill, that sounds like a time capsule. I come accross TSXs on ebay from time to time. Great bike

  • @ronb9901
    @ronb9901 Před rokem

    Excellent video, great bike!! 👍

  • @davidbuckwitz5408
    @davidbuckwitz5408 Před rokem

    Excellent video! Thanks, for sharing.

  • @loc9588
    @loc9588 Před rokem

    amazing video! beautiful bike, I couldn't stop staring at it. I really enjoy listening to you talk about it, and you have a very entertaining way of talking about it too. Very impressive weight. I have a rigid steel mtb frame from the 90's and I have to agree that steel does have it's own kind of feel. It's subtle but an experienced rider will notice it. My road bike is an aluminium allez though, built with lightweight bits. I have to say I wouldn't change it, I love the frame. Anyways great video!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Loc! I really appreciate that.👍🏾

  • @matthewobregon4803
    @matthewobregon4803 Před rokem

    Love the frame build!

  • @guidojt
    @guidojt Před rokem

    Love the video and your bike! I love the way steel rides also.

  • @angela-onesroman8873
    @angela-onesroman8873 Před 2 lety

    Great video, break down was awesome, really enjoyed it and learned something.

  • @richmck007
    @richmck007 Před rokem

    I’m an avid mtb / atb bike fan since 1985. I have studied all sorts of bikes and frames and ridden many brands. I am 60 now and still passionate about bikes although work does not permit my hobby to be as active as it could be so it is always great to see others doing this.
    I went from road bikes ( Raleigh to many other US brands back then ) to getting involved in MTB when it was in its infancy.
    My favourite bike has to be the Titanium Moots and Carbon fibre Ibis Mojo of which I still have since 2007 and have ridden aggressively but it is still true to the cause and has not split and is not showing signs of failing.
    So when you mention frames, for me the carbon and titanium followed by aluminum made bikes are to die for!
    Great in depth video.
    Respect to you!

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Rich! Respect. Moots is on my very short list of forever bikes that I am looking forward to owning. Thank you for sharing your views.

  • @jasonhorn696
    @jasonhorn696 Před rokem

    Love that paint scheme

  • @frankducett9
    @frankducett9 Před rokem +2

    Your thoughts on momentum was most interesting.
    The more I hear you talk about carbon, the more I wonder why anyone rides them.
    If a bike doesn't have the feeling of the road..... it's just as well might as well be a video game.
    I enjoy your videos.
    Last time I rode the hills up around Ferndale was during the N. Fla. State Championships of 1976. It might have been the ABL back then.

  • @mikekilburn3552
    @mikekilburn3552 Před rokem +1

    I'm drooling...love Bianchi

  • @Vezzo55
    @Vezzo55 Před rokem

    I ride a Steel Colonago Masterlight Frame.52cm Mapei team colors of the mid 90's.......I have over 30,000++ miles on that bike .....Rides as good as day 1....... Steel is Real Baby You have a beautiful Bianchi... great build Thank You for sharing

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Thank you Vezzo55! You have one of the most desired frames and paint schemes. Very iconic. I hope you continue enjoying it. 👍🏾

  • @ironmantooltime
    @ironmantooltime Před rokem

    Pro knowledge dude, nice work 👌😎

  • @wakelylouis1344
    @wakelylouis1344 Před rokem

    Great to hear from my best I rode with back in the day

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Ha ha! You need to get back on a bike Sir👍🏾

  • @blaineoneil6296
    @blaineoneil6296 Před 7 dny

    Love your explanation of steal and enertia

  • @patrickrichardson4765

    What beauty! Although I am not at your level of a rider I have always lusted after a Bianchi in traditional "Celeste." But your color scheme is terrific. Now you've made a bit intrigued with steel.

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem

      Hi Patrick! Thank you. Hey man, we all just pedal... no levels here.
      Glad we have you thinking about steel.

  • @mrkipple2080
    @mrkipple2080 Před rokem

    Great video and bike material tech talk,. I loved my Bianchi Ocelot. Once anyone mentions Bianchi I'm there. The color scheme on your bike is super nice. And yes. Steel is Real

    • @thegoodwheel
      @thegoodwheel  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Rob! I appreciate your comment👍🏾