What If The Danelaw Survived?
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
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Would be really nice if you did a “what if the first Chinese republic under sun yat sen survived”. Seeing that with your own way of how it would happen would be really cool!
This wouldn't butterfly away the Japanese invasion, so I'm interested to see how such a China would handle it.
dude this is such a great idea
Seeing nations with no democratic tradition finally have a stable democracy is always satisfying to see
@@MineONite I wonder if it would be stable. That's an interesting thought game.
@@TerralncognitaI think it should be, many people were resentful of the Qing and if the republicans can beat the aristocrats, they might have a easy time rebuilding
Bruh why I got this recommended after literally finishing to watch vinland saga
Me too, just finished e24 yesterday
Should I watch Vinland saga as well?
I finished the first season just 3 days ago
@@James_newyes it can be slow at times but it is really well written and has lovable characters and great animation
Oh,yeah,it's all coming together.
Ooh, interesting ideas:
What if Asturias unified Iberia, fighting off the Caliphates rather early at about 800-900AD or so?
What if Gwynedd united the British Isles and Ireland, making a Celtic Roman Empire?
As a Welshie who loves classical history the Gwynedd one is an amazing idea
those aren't alternate history scenarios those are alternate history timelines.
Good idea!
🙄
what if your mom got an abortion
It would put a smile on my face if you made a “What if everything went perfect for Scotland?”
As a Scot I agree with this
As a non-Scot I also agree with this
@@nightflame389as an Englishman this should just be what if everything went perfectly for the uk
Did for england and Scotland we got GB. As a scouser best result. If Scotland leaves the union wer going with them or Eire closest cousins. Scouse not english ❤
@@anzietoo9161 That’s a matter of opinion, not fact. As it stands, the Scottish people did not choose to join the UK at its inception.
Interesting ideas :
What if the Reconquista never happened
Aztec Empire if Spain never discovered America
What if Switzerland never became neutral
What if the HRE Remained united
He already made the HRE one, its a pretty fun scenario, but horrifying at the same time
Barborsa dosnt struggle with rivers
What if the mamluks resisted ottoman invasion?
@@That_Goofy_Swede eu4 player spotted
@@Eggplanter_2027 I actually dont play EU4, but I do play AOH2
I love that depiction of Alfred where he let the bread burn.
(There was a tale saying that when his army set up in a village he was asked by a widow to watch her bread so it didn’t burn - but so focused on planning how to deal with the Vikings that he let the bread burn. The widow then drove him from the house and according to legend it was then he came up with the plan on how to deal with them)
It’s such a great story. And even though it didn’t happen, the fact that it actually probably reflects his character better than most of those stories tend to do makes it even better.
I expect you to make good on your promise of 'what if everything went perfect for Ireland', the absolute devastation of England's non existence not benefitting Ireland demands it.
Ideas:
-> What if everything went PERFECT for Egypt? (Muhammed Ali and after)
-> What if the Ottomans won the siege at Vienna
The first idea is my favourite as I wish more videos would look into it more.
THANK YOU YES
do you mean the one in 1529 or 1683?
I like the first idea
@@zaidb9468 1683 most likely
Waht if evrything went perfect for japan ??
Day 347 of asking what if burgundy never fell
they never did they rejoined France logically being the founders of vieux Français language spoken by Charlemagne and his sons
@@ommsterlitz1805 it got partitioned and disappeared when Marie married into the Habsburgs
@@ommsterlitz1805 I’m talking about the duchy/kingdom in the early common era, not the kingdom of Arles
PLEASE MAKE THIS POPULAR FOR THIS
What if everything went perfect for Ireland, possibly beginning with a sort of unification pre-Norman invasion in 1167, would be really cool to see! Love the videos
This vid is what I have been waiting for months, POSSIBLE HISTORY IS SO BACK
Video suggestion : What if Ireland joined ww2 on either side. You could split the video in two to cover either Ireland siding with the allies or the axis.
Love your videos and keep up the amazing work. The maps look amazing. ❤
Nothing would really change
The borders would be different if Ireland's side wins, as they'd either be given Northern Ireland if they joined the Allies or take Northern Ireland if they joined the Axis.
@@gengarzilla1685I doubt that Northern Ireland would be lost if Ireland joined the allies. Why would Britain consent to giving up a European ISLES territory in exchange for some random colonies
@@coinyfrombfdirealthe idea is that in desparation for support in the war, britain would offer northern ireland to ireland.
@@cosmosyn2514 I doubt that britain would be desperate enough for a small insignificant country that hates them to go to war alongside them, and offer them Northern Ireland for it
Please do a "What if Everything went perfect for the Swedish Empire" and one for Japanese Empire as well
Been waiting For this one! Thanks For all your hardwork! Your maps are getting better and better
777 views, 7 minutes.. bro is Las Vegas
Lol
This is the only time one of these jokes have made me laugh.
I..I don’t get it
@@thefallenking1283 slot machines in media use 3 number 7s to indicate the jackpot.
Next Video: "What if Burgundy survived and was ruled by a funny man from an alternate timeline, circa around 1962"
I love medieval alternate history and this is a good example of it. I would support more wholeheartedly, especially far-flung outside of Europe - we need more medieval Indian and medieval Chinese scenarios
Possible History vid in the first 2 mins lesgo
please dont abbreviate the guy's name
@@crafterrium8724I love watching PH
What?
@@Outofcontexthandleit was shortened as "PH" before.
@@faxfromfred lol you actually did it I didn’t think you would do it
the music gets too loud at some points.
I think there are some huge changes you may be missing.
First linguistically a permanent danelaw would probably cause standard English to become much more similar to the Scandinavian languages. Jackson Crawford and Simon Roper did a great video about what a conversation between an Anglo-Saxon and an Old Norse speaker may have looked like. The languages were already almost mutually intelligible, hundreds of years of proximity would probably cause them to be even more so.
The second big change I think is possible is a larger sphere of influence for Scandinavia as a whole. Jorvik would essentially make the British isles an extension of Scandinavia and may allow them to culturally hold onto some of their further colonies. Many of the Norse cities in Ireland could maintain their Norse identity much longer. Normandy may end up like the England of our timeline with a Norman language which is mostly Germanic but has been heavily influenced by French because it has access to greater Scandinavian support.
Finally Jorvik could ally itself with celts in general as a buffer for its sphere of influence. Supporting the Welsh against the English like you said but also possibly the Bretons against the French to help keep the Normans out of the French sphere of influence. It could also allow for Norse colonialism to get the head start it almost had in our timeline. Maintaining the Greenland and Vinland colonies or even just the knowledge of those lands would be much easier with a large kingdom so much farther west than Norway was. Further on into the timeline a more powerful Scandinavia as a whole might cause the low Germans and Dutch to gravitate more towards Scandinavian culture and influence rather than German and HRE influence but this is maybe a stretch.
I love your videos btw and don’t think that youre wrong about what you said I just think the implications of this scenario should look more at the areas that Viking age Norsemen as a whole we’re interested in rather than mostly England and Jorvik. I also understand Scandinavia was by no means unified at this time but I don’t think that matters too much because of how much more far reaching their cultural influence would be with a permanent base in Britain. Thanks for the video!!
Loved the new music this episode!!
Video proposal: What if history went perfect for Italy?
yeah facts
The country or the region? Because the Roman Empire still existing is probably best for the region
@@xNick01 he already did a "what if everything went perfect for the Roman Empire", it obviously led to a stronger Italy but litterally impossible to predict the future after the inevitable fall
Machiavelli's dream
IT'S HERE! OH MY GOD IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK SO LONG
One interesting idea:
What if the miracle of the Vistula didn’t happen?
Where did your maps go?! They were so good for making fun lil maps!! Please bring them back!!!
This was awesome! We need to see more medieval videos!
15:30 pls name of the song on the back ground
Love medieval possible history, you should do something in the mongols next
Thanks for another awesome alt history scenario
@possiblehistory, Do a video about "What If The United Kingdom Never United" The video idea would mainly cover how geopolitics would have developed differently along with how the world would be a completely different place than what we know it today, and the impact of no longer having a superpower to balance out the Russians and the French along with other European powers!
You should do what if a zombie apocalypse broke out during the Napoleonic wars
I love watching ph
Idea -> What if Ireland got independence in 1867
What If Ireland got independence in 1798
What if everything went perfect for Ireland
Least patriotic ire
Gotta make the united ireland video I beg 🙏🙏🙏
I like leaving comments! Especially on great videos like this!
Great video! Would love to see a video on what if Norway and Denmark unified during the Viking Age and stayed united :D
Have you ever heard that King Harald Bluetooth of Denmark conquer Norway?
@@MPbmfm Yeah I know that Denmark and Norway were unified at various times during the viking age, and that they would be united again after the end of the Kalmar Union. I was thinking more if they were united during the viking age and then stayed together, or maybe during/after the Norwegian civil war era :)
Do modern empires I’m begging u
dis was cool, would like to see more vaguely interesting alt histories.
a continuation of this or something like it would be sick
Goated channel 🙏
0:14 where are their helmets? -_-
they forgor
Vikings didn’t have horned helmets. They were added in Shakespeare legends and it’s caught it way into Hollywood
@@Lightninghawk1144 I know
Vikings kinda forgot about their iron helmets
Helmets are for BABIES!!
we need more medieval PH
The world might have a lot less independence days
As a danish guy i enjoyed the video
Question: what music did you use in this video? I specifically want to know the last track.
Didn’t someone suggest this?
Let’s gooooo
Waited for this video so long, glad it's finally here, also, another idea for a video:
What if soviet union went to war over Montreux convention with Turkey
do a ''What if the aceh sultanate won against the netherlands?.'' or a ''What if the aceh stayed as a ottoman protectorate?.''
idk
Norway mentioned??!?!?!🦅🦅
(Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)
Then we would all have been eating klipfisk and får i kål by now ! 😒
I just started ck3 and was wondering what to play... Now I know
Interesting! Suggestion: what if Harold godwinson defeated William at hastings?
Awwww yisss
Please do Every Modern Empire
More medieval scenarios
Dude, you really have to upload those maps! They're amazing!!!
What if king Wladyslaw warnenczyk of jagiellon dynasty won the battle of warna (or accepted the peace treaty he was proposed before the battle). At the time of his battle he ruled Poland, Lithuania, Novgorod, Moldavia, Hungary, Czechia, a huge part of other HRE territories and Croatia while still being unmarried (and possibly able to gain more thrones via marriage). After he’s death during this battle this massive personal union was split into many parts with some thrones being gained by his brothers, some by Habsburgs, some conquered during the chaos that occurred after his death and some taken by local nobles. He’s victory in this battle would absolutely destroy the ottoman influence of Europe and even the more moderate peace treaty he broke before the battle would keep him alive (and his massive empire United) while weakening the Turks
Here’s an idea: what if there were no British Isles?
Maybe you could do one about what if the conquest of wales failed?
I enjoyed this! Northern and southern England already have a rivalry. But now imagine centuries of conflict 😅
More medieval stuff
I want to see a timeline where Cornwall is independent and the Cornish language isn’t endangered
Video proposal: What if Spain and Prussia did become under one monarch
Didn't Monsieur Z already do that.
Mhm, I'd like to see a decent channel talk about
@@kylerowsley
@@kylerowsley Ooh I should watch it
@savedata1987 Actually, scratch that. PH touched on it in his "What if everything went perfect for Germany" video.
love ur videoes
I doubt that William the conqueror would succeed, because in our time Harold’s army were tired for a long march having just fought off a invading Norwegian army, which has in an area that is now controlled by Dane-law and so then hardrads army whould have longer to sail or he would not invade at all.
Us Danelaw fans are now satisfied
Legend
I always wondered if the kingdom in Vinland Saga was real
Long live King Canute!
i to often wonder if denmark is real
it’s spelt “Cnut”
Suggestion: What if Basque whalers discovered America in the early thirteenth century. Considering the Basque set up outposts in the new world in OTL, maybe with a headstart and the main colonisers embroiled in the one hundred years war and the reconqista, the Basque may have a new world monopoly for at least a while
I just woke up
This makes me want to see you do a "what if the norman conquest failed"
Video idea: What if the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1912?
Hey ph, amazing video.
What you use for creating your maps?
never knew about Danelaw till today
Video suggestion: What if the Vikings escaped to North America and preserved their pagan traditions? (Perhaps pick this up with European colonisers discovering a viking kingdom and having trouble colonising)
Whatever you do I'm sure it'll be great though!
Given modern English people are still majority Brythonic Celtic by blood and not Anglo-Saxon, I like that you pointed out that England wouldn't magically become Norse due to small waves of migrations over the centuries.
What a coincidence! Just a few hours ago, I was playing as England, fighting a defensive war against Denmark in CK2.
You finally got some new music!
First 10 minutes club!! First 1000 views club!!
21st century club, first 99m views club
really cool! thank you!
I’d like a part two of the colonial era
i’d love to see a what if everything went perfect for wales 🏴 cideos
suggestion: what if iberia was more united under leon
Guess they won’t be addicted to tea then
I just played CK 3 in Britain
Do video of "what if habsburgs survived in spain"
If the Spanish Habsburgs held out up until the WW1 era, this could make things very interesting.
@@gengarzilla1685 yes we want that video very soon
Can you imagine a "What if everything went perfect for England?" Half the world's population might be in the anglosphere.
"Real Future" thinks we don't remember what he did during the fall of Rome in 476
Mediaval european alt history in a nutshell: and that's why France will become the hegemon of Europe
Yes finally something Danish 😊
What if Majorian restored the Western Roman Empire?
At the start, that area was the Kingdom of Dyfed not deheubarth.
Deheubarth was formed in the mid 900s after a Gwynedd invasion
9:39 GWYNEDD MENTIONED RAAAHHHHH🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Last time I was this early the Danelaw existed.
I ask of you to make a video on the Nicopolis Crusade, or at the very least remake your Crusade of Varna video
Yeah
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Week 2 of asking for "What if Venetia-Lombardy annexed Sardinia in the Congress of Vienna?"
The matter of French centralization would be dependent on what Normandy does. Normandy itself was already quite powerful and militant despite being a French vassal, almost akin to a Prussia within the French realm. If some Norman duke like William still becomes King of Wessex, his powerbase north may be reduced from our timeline but it still creates just enough of the same historical power struggle that prompted the French kings to bolster their direct control in France, irrespective of whether Normandy actually bends the knee to France on paper.
If any conflicts do happen between Norman Wessex and France, I expect Jorvik to play a role similar to Scotland of our timeline, the northern kingdom France guarantees and allies with in order to keep this rival boxed in.
Ive thought abt a few alternate histories.
My fave thatd probably be interesting would be "What if the 7 years' war was a stalemate?"
sorry but I have to point out that norse and danes is wrong. The danes where norse. Norse doesnt mean norwegian. A common mistake