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Komentáƙe • 466

  • @kpopRC
    @kpopRC Pƙed 7 lety +339

    stop telling ppl "don't buy this camera" because you don't know how to properly operate it.

    • @TheFilmmakingChannel
      @TheFilmmakingChannel Pƙed 7 lety +18

      Exactly. I also get the feeling he's pushing that agenda.

    • @meowanderson2189
      @meowanderson2189 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      you have info on how to properly operate to not get this???

    • @Onyeakak
      @Onyeakak Pƙed 6 lety +14

      Shoot in 10 bit and properly expose for the skintones. Vlog-l is mostly for controlled situations where you can expose correctly.

    • @meowanderson2189
      @meowanderson2189 Pƙed 6 lety

      thx! im new

    • @Onyeakak
      @Onyeakak Pƙed 6 lety

      No problem!

  • @tonydaazntiger319
    @tonydaazntiger319 Pƙed 7 lety +518

    If you're going to put a click-bait title like "DON"T BUY THE GH5", don't put an affiliate Amazon link in the description that goes straight to a page where you can purchase the GH5. Extremely hypocritical.
    Also I don't know why you're speaking in absolutes like "DON"T BUY THE GH5" because one OPTIONAL aspect of the cameras system isn't working specifically for YOU. The GH5 is absolutely loaded with features that appeal to a broad array of consumers. To completely write off the camera, and say that people shouldn't buy it, is just your frustration talking. Don't compromise your integrity as a filmmaker just to pull in viewers. If you have a problem with V-log, then title your video appropriately, and don't try to pull in views with a click-bait title. I'm sure you can tell from the sharp increase of dislikes on this video compared to your other ones, that many people disagree with your findings.
    Finally, a quick search on the internet would have revealed that the problem lies with Premiere and not v-log:
    www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-gh5-lab-review-update-clarification/

  • @evdokmv
    @evdokmv Pƙed 7 lety +167

    "Don't buy GH5 because I suck at working with LOG footage!"
    Learn first, then shoot your advices.

    • @TylerHansenVideo
      @TylerHansenVideo Pƙed 7 lety +33

      "I also don't understand that LOG is never meant for 8-bits. Sell your cameras guys!"

    • @ChrispyArt
      @ChrispyArt Pƙed 7 lety +3

      THIS
      Was about to write another comment like yours but why if you already said it on point.

  • @ammarkhalaf7505
    @ammarkhalaf7505 Pƙed 7 lety +60

    DON'T BUY VLOG would've been better title than DON'T BUY THE GH5
    Just me saying

  • @DaveKatague
    @DaveKatague Pƙed 7 lety +97

    Whilst I love this channel, the message is completely different to the CLICKBAIT title. You're saying don't buy VLOG not the ENTIRE CAMERA. I don't agree with the way you're negatively putting entire cameras under the wrong perception for views. This over time will cause me to slow stop trusting you and what you say at least with your titles.

  • @georger.rmartinhat9366
    @georger.rmartinhat9366 Pƙed 6 lety +67

    first mistake , taking advice from amateur "travel video" guy lol

  • @joeyehrgott3829
    @joeyehrgott3829 Pƙed 7 lety +124

    so quick to slander the entire camera.. lol what a joke. unsubscribed!

    • @jeremydulac5920
      @jeremydulac5920 Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Same here! I am done with this channel. So much click bait

    • @IAMLXGEND
      @IAMLXGEND Pƙed 5 lety +1

      @@jeremydulac5920 thats the nature of youtube, buddy. Even CZcams themselves tells creators you need a title that is captivating and will cause users to click. If you don't include a HEALTHY amount of "clickbait" no one is going to watch your videos. And if no one watches your videos when you do this for a living, you go broke. I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

  • @SullyCortez
    @SullyCortez Pƙed 7 lety +113

    Are you serious right now??? Even Panasonic says DO NOT SHOOT VLOG IN 8BIT !! Everyone who has owned a GH4 knows not to shoot VLOG in 8bit the codec simply can't handle it. And when shooting VLOG I would ALWAYS recommend shooting externally to completely bypass the codecs compression algorithm. THAT is why you're seeing "red and green splotches" as you so eloquently put it which btw has a technical term... "macro-blocking" and it happens because the codec can't handle how much you're pushing it because there isn't enough data. Hence why you need to shoot 10bit when shooting VLOG. You're a huge channel and you put out a video showing basically that you don't know to use or work with LOG footage properly otherwise you would know this blatant and rudimentary fact. Sigh, this is why I hate bigger channels putting out videos like this because you haven't done your research or homework and because something doesn't , and I quote "work right out of the box immediately", you're telling people they shouldn't buy or even return a specific device because YOU didn't know how to use it properly. I've shot VLOG L for broadcast television and corporate video projects for multiple clients with both the GH4 and now GH5 and NOT ONE PERSON has complained about "red and green splotches that make the video unusable" because...I actually read up on how to properly use VLOG before attempting to use it professionally. To each his own, but to me this seems like you had no idea what you were doing, shot some footage incorrectly, then blamed it on the camera when it "didn't work" how you want it to. Not trying to hate, just hate the ignorance that is so prevelant in this video.

    • @justbainz
      @justbainz Pƙed 7 lety +4

      go on son

    • @kelvinjimenez7023
      @kelvinjimenez7023 Pƙed 5 lety +8

      Great comment. The people don't read Panasonic guides and then start talking sh*t about something that the Brand told that you can't do.

    • @sironconi938
      @sironconi938 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      What setting do you recommend shooting when you want to slow motion? I don't have vlog yet, just wondering if you can do vlog with the slow motion frame rates

    • @adventuresofjandk
      @adventuresofjandk Pƙed 4 lety

      Sully Cortez well said

    • @NA_14
      @NA_14 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      I appreciate this comment so much, because as someone trying to get back into film, theres a lot of information out there and its hard to filter through the wrong voices. I was inclined to take his word for it, which sucks because I have been looking at this camera for months. Thank you.

  • @CinecomCrew
    @CinecomCrew Pƙed 7 lety +111

    Just a thought, but could it be that your model has a malfunction? I've been loving v-log so far. I used it in various situations (low light, daylight, studio,..) and had super great results.

    • @IgnazTheGreat
      @IgnazTheGreat Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Hey, my vLog has the color issue. But I also edit in Premiere. Where are you editing?

    • @imp6990
      @imp6990 Pƙed 6 lety +4

      Uninstal that garbage premiere softwere and instal Edius. You will not be disapointed

    • @SufiSafari
      @SufiSafari Pƙed 5 lety +1

      Cinicom❀

    • @michaelmannucci8949
      @michaelmannucci8949 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      He's shooting in 8-bit. You can't use V-LOG and 8-bit, you have to use 10-bit.

    • @grey_tracer5283
      @grey_tracer5283 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@michaelmannucci8949 isn't V-Log automatically 10-bit? Don't think you need to choose the bitrate seperately.....

  • @ivyfeenix
    @ivyfeenix Pƙed 6 lety +45

    The ratings for this video has spoken...!

  • @NakeanWickliff
    @NakeanWickliff Pƙed 7 lety +33

    Vlog came from the Varicam and gh4 users begged for it and it was delivered. There was only one caveat. You HAVE TO RECORD IN 10bit. This is so well documented it's insane that someone on his level doesn't know. That's why we got 10bit internal. Notice all his footage was shot in 60p. Unless he was shooting to the inferno recorders he was capturing 8bit. Purchasing Vlog is a pita but for a good reason. So noobs wouldn't do exactly what this expereienced dude did. Grab the camera, shoot in Vlog with inadequate data (8bit) and complain that Vlog is broken.

  • @muamermujevic
    @muamermujevic Pƙed 7 lety +32

    So I just watched a whole video about your VLOG hate, but the message is "Don't buy GH5, and if you did, return it". This was such a lame clickbait. You lost my respect man.

  • @lmlxmetalhead
    @lmlxmetalhead Pƙed 7 lety +27

    Just subbed the other day and now I'm second guessing that action. Honestly, I think you are slamming an incredible video camera for a feature that is optional. The GH5 outperforms most of its competition in every way, and the lack of good VLOG does not outweigh the other amazing features this camera offers. I really have enjoyed browsing the other videos in your channel, and you're very smart and articulate your thoughts fluidly. But this video just left an absolutely sour taste in my mouth.

  • @TylerHansenVideo
    @TylerHansenVideo Pƙed 7 lety +49

    Any shooter worth their salt knows you NEVER shoot LOG in 8 bit. If you want slow-mo LOG, you should've switched to 1080p 10Bit.

    • @mathiasgeck-kameramanncolo8221
      @mathiasgeck-kameramanncolo8221 Pƙed 6 lety +3

      Agree. The only exception where this worked for me was the old C300 MK1 with C-Log. But something extremely flat as SLog2/3 or VLog in 8Bit clearly falls apart to banding hell when stretched out. 256 values per channel are way too less, obvious that it can't work. Total nonsense too completely destroy this 10bit-capable camera because the 8Bit Log-Footage looks bad (and wondering if that is an LUT or NLE issue...damn, thats just obvious by definition)....misinforming video, unfortunately with a lot of clicks

    • @MrOffshore
      @MrOffshore Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Mathias Geck - Kameramann & Colorist the reason it has so many views is the camera is very popular and people are researching it inside and out...when you see a clickbait title like this people flock to it to see why they shouldn’t spend the $$$ only to be misinformed.

  • @danielabrahamsson5769
    @danielabrahamsson5769 Pƙed 7 lety +14

    Complaining on 8-bit V-log is like shoting with Jpeg and trying to edit it like Raw-footage. Hope you have a color calibrated monitor that supports 10-bit when u switch to Resolve... Or else you will probably make a "part 2" of this video... And blame the gh5 and Resolve...

  • @stereoheartsrnb
    @stereoheartsrnb Pƙed 7 lety +7

    What camera did you film this video with? The description says GH5

  • @jasoncox9256
    @jasoncox9256 Pƙed 7 lety +64

    It's amazing how much complaining there is about this camera (and every other model). It can be simple: if you want great skin tones-Canon. Great low light-Sony. Great all-around video-Panasonic. If you want the image quality of a $50K camera, spend $50K. Everybody seems to want everything for nothing and a magical LUT that will make it look pro. When you buy something brand new, there are going to be software comparability issues. That's what happens when tech and software companies are releasing new products every season by demand. The "budget" camera market has definitely become spoiled with unrealistic expectations.
    I appreciate your review and opinion.

    • @JonatanContrerasjononthemoon
      @JonatanContrerasjononthemoon Pƙed 7 lety

      Ja Co dude, right on.

    • @marcosansalone
      @marcosansalone Pƙed 5 lety

      I totally agree.

    • @kelvinjimenez7023
      @kelvinjimenez7023 Pƙed 5 lety

      I totally agree with your comment. I consider that if you wanna more of a camera under $2,000 you're actually crazy! If you want Alexa look you should buy an Alexa!

    • @MrOffshore
      @MrOffshore Pƙed 4 lety

      It appears the mistake is on his end, Panasonic explains not to shoot V-Log in 8-bit, it must be shot in 10-bit.

  • @tommytwotraps3792
    @tommytwotraps3792 Pƙed 7 lety +47

    I thought you were above click-bait titles, but guess not. Super disappointed by this video. I was enjoying your channel and thought you were a serious filmmaker, but this video has lowered my respect for you. To tell your entire audience to "NOT BUY THE GH5" simply because you're having some frustrations with the grading is ridiculous. Unsubscribed.

  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock Pƙed 5 lety +8

    Good thing I never use V-LOG and hate colour grading 😁

    • @NOMADPROSTORYREAL
      @NOMADPROSTORYREAL Pƙed 3 lety +1

      That correct for vloging colour grading is not important, but for cinematic OK colour grading we need it

  • @dirqueleyr
    @dirqueleyr Pƙed 7 lety +63

    Interesting thought process.
    "I have all these problems with GH5 footage and Premiere"
    "My footage looks weird in Premiere. Premiere can't handle GH5 footage as well as other NLEs"
    "Because it's probably not a Premiere problem. Let's not bother checking it out on anything else."
    The Gh5 is garbage, time to return it!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  Pƙed 7 lety +3

      +Dirque Leyr vlog has nothing to do with premiere.

    • @dirqueleyr
      @dirqueleyr Pƙed 7 lety +12

      Everything you posted reminds me of the Cinema5D claims that got retracted.
      www.eoshd.com/2017/03/cinema5d-slate-panasonic-gh5-call-v-log-10bit-unusable/
      www.cinema5d.com/panasonic-gh5-lab-review-update-clarification/

    • @dirqueleyr
      @dirqueleyr Pƙed 7 lety +18

      +travelfeels Cinema5D noted:
      "The consequence of using this codec however led to incorrect results when evaluating the Panasonic GH5’s 10-bit Vlog performance as it affected my files in a way that introduced an unexpectedly large quality loss within Adobe Premiere Pro. It seems like the quality issues previously found in my original test were caused by an error of the Adobe Premiere Pro software in connection with the Apple ProRes HQ codec. While the reasons for the error have not been clarified, anybody who intends to use Adobe Premiere Pro in connection with 10-bit files in Vlog recorded on the Panasonic GH5, should consider the conversion steps carefully.
      Using the Apple ProRes HQ codec on a daily basis, I was surprised that the conversion affected the Vlog files from the Panasonic GH5 in my initial test so severely. After reevaluation, it has become clear that the Apple ProRes HQ codec is more than capable to hold the 10-bit information Vlog requires and the error in connection with Adobe Premiere Pro needs to be reported and investigated. Furthermore the Panasonic GH5 in Vlog mode exhibits a magenta / green color shift in some parts of the image, that was further exaggerated by said error."

  • @ichidomo
    @ichidomo Pƙed 7 lety +4

    Just because V-log doesn't work out for you in 8 bit, the whole camera with all of its features and profiles are not worth it at all? It has been well known since v-log came out for the gh4 it doesn't do well in 8 bit, that's the very nature of. 10 bit v-log still has to be explored when shot internally since it's sensitive to wrong exposure but it's far from unusable atm from what I have seen and that's even without the summer FW update.
    You have a lot of subscibers and young aspiring filmmakers that don't understand the true tech behind colorscience, grading and log profiles and will believe whatever you say since you are a 'role figure'. By stating to not buy the Gh5 or get a refund only based your user experience with v-log is pure misinformation for your audience.

  • @StillPictureProduction
    @StillPictureProduction Pƙed 7 lety +14

    I completely disagree. Slog is atrocious compared to vlog, EVEN in 8 bit on the gh5. Light touch on the slog and it crumbles. I pushed hard on the vlog, both in 8 and 10 and it hardly fell apart. I really don't know what you're talking about.

    • @alejandrocampollo
      @alejandrocampollo Pƙed 6 lety

      i shoot a lot in slow mo 120fps on the GH5
      i usually shot cine D, i also have VLOG
      I heard VLOG is good only when 10bit
      I cant shoot 120fps with 10bit tho, what do you recommend?

  • @carstenweizer2949
    @carstenweizer2949 Pƙed 7 lety +13

    You do some great content dont get me wrong but it feels like you made that upgrade because you heard that vlog was better without knowing why its better. Vlog is a feature for on set filmmakers where your not dependent on slo mo. it requires 10 bit 4:2:2. its only then that it allows for the smooth transition between colors thats what 10 bit 4:2:2 means. for run and gun filmmaking your better off shooting in cinelike d or v because then you can get that flat image but still have access to the higher frame rate features because its not flattening out the image as much not requiring higher bit rates.

    • @uncledez8
      @uncledez8 Pƙed 6 lety

      Carsten Weizer Finally someone who knows what they're talking about.

    • @alejandrocampollo
      @alejandrocampollo Pƙed 6 lety

      i shoot a lot in slow mo 120fps on the GH5
      i usually shot cine D, i also have VLOG but i do lots of 120fps.
      I heard VLOG is good only when 10bit
      I cant shoot 120fps with 10bit tho, what do you recommend?

  • @LeeZavitz
    @LeeZavitz Pƙed 7 lety +1

    I know this isn't a solution but I have been recording to the atomos ninja inferno 10bit and it looks amazing! I can also record 4k 60fps 10bit. And the footage is so easy to edit in premiere. That said, the compressed 10bit to sd card is almost impossible to edit in premiere.

  • @victorbart
    @victorbart Pƙed 7 lety +48

    Wait you say to people return your camera because of 1 little issue you encounter? You are over reacting hahahaha

    • @zyllz2414
      @zyllz2414 Pƙed 5 lety

      IKR AND THEN HE PUTS A LINK TO GO BUY IT IN THE DESCRIPTION

  • @RussellEstridge
    @RussellEstridge Pƙed 5 lety +10

    I'm surprised you haven't deleted this video or come up with a redemption video. I'm even more surprised you of all people would post something so Click Bait and incorrect information.

    • @raksh9
      @raksh9 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Matti's videos are created to attract clicks. That's their primary purpose. Even if it's incorrect or misleading, he leaves it up because future people will click. I unsubbed from this flaming dungball years ago for that reason.

    • @RussellEstridge
      @RussellEstridge Pƙed 2 lety

      @@raksh9 same

  • @ucefkh
    @ucefkh Pƙed 7 lety +10

    I liked your stuff but this video proves you need to go learn how to use the GH5 or improve your Adobe premier skills bro!

  • @thehawknelsonfreak
    @thehawknelsonfreak Pƙed 7 lety +4

    It's hard to really know what you are talking about with the VLOG when you show the video footage graded. That means it could be your process of color grading.

  • @dimuthdesoyza
    @dimuthdesoyza Pƙed 7 lety +14

    Must be sony user!

  • @punchlinemedia9580
    @punchlinemedia9580 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I have found the fix!!! Project Setting > Renderer> Use CUDA GPU accelartor. Fixed mine

  • @SakkiDuran
    @SakkiDuran Pƙed 3 lety +2

    so basically "don't buy it because I don't know how to use it"? lol

  • @JamesMorano
    @JamesMorano Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Canon is also charging $99 for their C-Log profile. Panasonic is not the only one to do this. Also I think the V-log will get a lot better when they drop the 400 mbps ALL-I codec.

  • @LunaticandBull
    @LunaticandBull Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Well, I didn't buy a GH5 for V log, so guess I'm quite happy with it as it is.

  • @lukasheining173
    @lukasheining173 Pƙed 7 lety +20

    I use my phone and my GoPro for most of my videos, upgraded to a Sony A7II a few months ago and my films didn't get much better - it's not the gear but how you use it!

    • @realdavidpayne
      @realdavidpayne Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Lukas Heining can't be a gear collector**

  • @nealprinsloo8076
    @nealprinsloo8076 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    To an untrained eye it's tough to see what you're talking about even though you're pointing it out.

  • @renatozanardo9648
    @renatozanardo9648 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I confirm. 8 bit is really bad, some colors are almost suppressed. I thought it depended on the HOYA variable ND, but that's the V-log

  • @josixpoeight9981
    @josixpoeight9981 Pƙed 6 lety +2

    To summarize... If you want to use V-Log, make sure you are using 10bit. 4K 10bit is available on the GH5 now. I am a GH5 user and I agree that it has it's downsides. Autofocus sucks and the low light is not the best. You should do an update review, post firmware 2.0, if you still own the GH5.

  • @kuplayfordvalls6781
    @kuplayfordvalls6781 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    WTF dude?! Just shoot on Cinelike D and turn contrast all the way down. YouÂŽll see that you can see pretty pretty amazing results with minor color-grading. Plus you have to keep in mind the price too. 2K for that level of performance and flexibility? Preeeetty good if u ask me...

  • @guillem-o
    @guillem-o Pƙed 7 lety +4

    Got the GH5 and the V-LOG picture profile and what you're saying is a little bit true. But only the person who edit the video will notice those color """problem""" (yeah three quote bc it's not that big of a deal). Sony A7S II is the only alternative for the GH5, and I personally don't think it's as good (tested both). I'm glas I bought the GH5 and I will not return it, very nice camera.

  • @JohnFelipo
    @JohnFelipo Pƙed 7 lety +2

    What you're describing are issues that come with shooting V-log internally. I've seen this in Sony cameras, it's less pronounced because the noise floor is higher but can still be seen.
    V-log should only be used when shooting to an external recorder, there is just not enough information in camera when shooting to 100mbps & 150mbps for V-log. All these issues are gone when shooting to an external recorder.
    I can see a lot of your clips were in 4K 60p which internally is not ideal at all, especially not in V-log. 150mbps is just not enough to deal with all that data. Maybe the 400mbps summer update will change that.

  • @JackStolz
    @JackStolz Pƙed 7 lety +3

    I think my color-blindness made it so I actually can't see this issue. Even after pausing I was having a hard time identifying the problem. All you footage still looked awesome to me! Haha

  • @ghostpictures
    @ghostpictures Pƙed 7 lety +2

    I'm very happy with my VLOG and the 422 10 bit. My new short is coming next week. :) Hope to hear from you.

  • @agymnastsbeautyland
    @agymnastsbeautyland Pƙed 7 lety +1

    thank you for uploading this!! i was actually just looking into this camera pretty seriously and then this video popped up in my subscription box:)) appreciate the heads up!

  • @cldarlington1
    @cldarlington1 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    You're doing it wrong.

  • @marclafunk9831
    @marclafunk9831 Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Is it not so that you always have to make practical choices with these types of cameras? And with these type of cameras I mean small form factor and packed full with features. My experience is that V-Log on the GH4 is also unusable, same with most of the Sony 8bit sensors/codecs if you use S-Log3. A flat image style to increase dynamic range just needs more then 8bit of color depth. But that dynamic range and that bit depth are IMO not really the features why people buy these types of cameras. You get a lot in a small package for a pretty small price. And if you for a particular shot need more dynamic range you have the option to go 1080p 10bit on the GH5 internal. That’s a pretty awesome option if you ask me.
    I am not a GH4 owner and probably will not own the GH5 either. I also don’t have a lot experience with these smaller cameras cause of the sets that I work on, but I do think there is a lot of benefit and a lot to offer for a lot a lot of people with these types of cameras. It’s only if you want to shoot a extreme flat color profile and want a above average of dynamic range and you want to shoot in 4k as well, then you shouldn't buy a GH5 or any other small form factor camera. The technical possibilities are just not there yet. Right now there are still to many technical limitations to achieve such a setup that you are talking about in such a small form factor. If the technical possibilities where there at this point, Blackmagic would have launched a “Pocket Cinema Mk II”. And they didn't only because of this reason, quote on the NAB2017 floor of a BMD rep. “It is not possible yet to achieve such a big bit depth in 4k in such a small form factor at this point, if it was we would have done it”.

  • @misha.shendrik
    @misha.shendrik Pƙed 7 lety +2

    REALLY IMPORTANT!?!?!?
    do you have the same problem with the gh4?????

    • @mathsurfvlogs
      @mathsurfvlogs Pƙed 7 lety

      Mike S i have the GH4 I am really happy. I shoot in VLOG and the results are great. U check in my channel.

  • @Melandjona
    @Melandjona Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Interesting find, and really glad you've been so honest and clear with this issue!

  • @I5H78
    @I5H78 Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Just wait for the hybrid log gamma hdr update coming in the summer, before you decide to sell your GH5. Unlike V-log this hybrid log gamma update is designed specifically for the GH5

  • @eyecandyVISION
    @eyecandyVISION Pƙed 7 lety +6

    you just started a shitstorm in all the GH5 groups haha :D interesting to see this but I don't have any issues with V-Log. Just like really got my hands on my first properly lit V-Log L footage straight out of my GH5. Can't believe how great the colors look and how much of a difference it makes if you shoot LOG
    i love you anyways matti ♄ :-D

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze Pƙed 7 lety +4

    i wonder what the a7siii will be 8k video? 256fps? soo low light capabilities that you can film in a black hole? screen flips out and turns into a toaster? what are the specs?

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      YoungBlaze Of Chitown lmfao

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 Pƙed 7 lety +6

      -the dynamic range is so high you can see 2 different dimensions at the same time.
      - you only need one half charged battery your whole life
      - stabilisation so good that you can shoot handheld in a tornado and it looks like a steadycam
      - 10x sd slots

    • @YoungBlaze
      @YoungBlaze Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Giel Rozilio hell yeah!... where the hell do i pre order? Skynet.com?

    • @YoungBlaze
      @YoungBlaze Pƙed 7 lety

      Skynet.com

    • @gielrozilio4541
      @gielrozilio4541 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      YoungBlaze Of Chitown lol my wifi network is called skynet

  • @StanleyMOV
    @StanleyMOV Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Music is from artlist.io ;)
    Love that site.

    • @mattih
      @mattih  Pƙed 7 lety

      +Stanley's Stuff yea they have some great stuff!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  Pƙed 7 lety +1

      +Stanley's Stuff yea they have some great stuff!

  • @gielrozilio4541
    @gielrozilio4541 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    clickbait title, more like why not to buy the vlog.. not about the whole camera

  • @generaitnet
    @generaitnet Pƙed 7 lety +2

    GH5 has 180fps not 120fps... ? this is a GH5 not a Sony A7!

  • @ProVisionVideo
    @ProVisionVideo Pƙed 7 lety +12

    Seriously IMO you are clueless
    I love the V-Log have got great results from my GH5 10bit 4k

  • @NoAnchorTV
    @NoAnchorTV Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Thanks for the update! Let us know what you think about the Cine D soon.

  • @yibodong2059
    @yibodong2059 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Thanks for being honest.

  • @artemus80j.4
    @artemus80j.4 Pƙed 7 lety +2

    I think you're being a bit harsh here...just because you find Vlog to be unusable you're calling the GH5 garbage? When I read your title before clicking on the video I thought to myself ' is he talking about 8 bit?' ...sure enough the clips are in slomo...8 bit. I am not saying that you're wrong here but let's not forget that this is a 2000 camera and sure as hell isnt pefect. I just find it's funny that everyone took your words and call this camera a disastrous instead of doing their own thinking lol

  • @gielrozilio4541
    @gielrozilio4541 Pƙed 7 lety +4

    haha and then putting a link to amazon for the gh5 in your description. so hypocrite. dislike.

  • @OpenRangeStudios
    @OpenRangeStudios Pƙed 7 lety

    I love my Panasonic GH4 but have the same issues with red and green blotchy color banding when shooting in VlogL. Too many shots ruined. A major reason for holding off upgrading to the GH5. Everything else about both these cameras is amazing, especially for the price. The extra 2 stops of dynamic range looks better then Cine-D when shots turn out good, but there's always a risk of nasty color blotches.

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe Pƙed 7 lety +1

    You are an adobe user, that says it all. Why use vlog if you are not working or are a colorist and are not going to do heavy post processing? Slog is a nightmare and half, until you learn to tame it. Still then, it will bite you hard once in a while. With log, if you are off in you capture buy a little bit, you might end up with something unusable.

  • @AsparagusVideo
    @AsparagusVideo Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Well, I'll be sure to stay away from this channel then.

  • @bikeinmotion
    @bikeinmotion Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Why dont you post a short clip in 10bit straight out of camera that shows your color-blocks. Maybe we can download it and try it on our own (maybe in resolve) and see if we can find a solution? Try comet-color LUTs maybe.

  • @swaha55
    @swaha55 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    so has the Vlog improved since 2017 when you made this video?

    • @shaunhillyard1813
      @shaunhillyard1813 Pƙed 4 lety

      If you read the comments, most of them highlight him recording in 8bit rather then 10bit, the problem isn't the vlogL it's his error, and Panasonic also recommend to record in 10 bit due to codec 🙂

  • @chocokrispisconleche
    @chocokrispisconleche Pƙed 7 lety

    Is the Vlog not working on premiere the only reason not to buy the GH5? Adobe announced they are working on an update to fix that, if anything the title should be "don't use Premiere to edit your GH5 footage".

  • @joselperez9384
    @joselperez9384 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Thanks for the info man! I'm really new to all these Picture Profile and everything. I Bought a Nikon D3300 so i can really learn the hard way, can you do a video on how to manually set a Flat Profile. Thanks for everything Man! Great Great Content!

  • @Jakobsederholmfilms
    @Jakobsederholmfilms Pƙed 7 lety +2

    Okay so how much did sony pay you

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Use Premire Pro 2015, 9.0 for 10 bit Vlog.

  • @trualx
    @trualx Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Did you use VLOG on the GH4?

  • @AlaaEsmail504
    @AlaaEsmail504 Pƙed 7 lety

    For what this camera does for the price could you honestly say it's worth returning over such a simple issue that could also be resolved in firmware update? I know it's your opinion but for the average to above average videographer I don't think your point is valid. P.S. - Been watching your stuff - Love the content!

  • @magicseller3317
    @magicseller3317 Pƙed 3 lety

    So, do you have a problem with the GH5 or the VLog? I would like to understand

  • @TheAvlis24
    @TheAvlis24 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Wow bro that's the best all around camera! Whats up with you dude -.-

  • @liontarolikos
    @liontarolikos Pƙed 7 lety

    I highly recommend DaVinci Resolve! If you so desire, anything dropped into the timeline will be converted to ProRes on the fly. And its FAST! I switched about two months ago and have not looked back. Just remember that autosave is not turned on by default. I lost hours of work before I found out :P

  • @googleisshit2019
    @googleisshit2019 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Bruh, you need a control. This could very well be one of those cases where your other log recordings had the same anomalies but you just noticed it on this cam now. You gotta mount 2 cams, shoot the same shot, log vs log, and see if the other company's log does the same thing. (Can't use previous footage. The control's gotta be a control.)

  • @LUMETRY
    @LUMETRY Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Hahahha so you mean don't buy the gh5 but you only talk about vlog 😂😂😂. Next video don't buy the Sony a7iii? All camera have good and bad point but be honest and don't use a click bait title. Matti are you looking for more subscribers? Try to use vlog on DaVinci and not on premiere you will see the true!

  • @yojoono
    @yojoono Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Are you recording the Vlog-L footage internally?

  • @4ksydneyeventvideographer806

    And yes.. Anyone can push the red record button, But I found that GH4 and 5 has so many variables that take time to fully understand and use (Properly). Just as in Any pro level Camera. We had 5 GH5's and 2JVC M43. we kept the Ghs's BECAUSE OF IT'S COLOUR. but sold the 2 x JVC ( not because of quality but only to keep menus simple on a busy shoot). Aand Panasonic has the most intuitive menu. Say: Have you tried using s curves and other exposure controls before you start shooting?. there is a lot of options to suite any user.

  • @ramymelhem
    @ramymelhem Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Most disliked video on your channel, Matti. I hope you figured out how to properly use Vlog on the GH5 since this video was made.

  • @VenusandMaiku
    @VenusandMaiku Pƙed 7 lety

    hmmm I'm colour blind, so things like this absolutely terrify me! I can't see what you are pointing out! I went with the 80D instead because I have to depend on Canon's awesome colour profiles.

  • @digitaldevigner4080
    @digitaldevigner4080 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    More irresponsible journalism. Please learn how to use V-log before you spread lies all over the internet. Plenty of professional users have found V-log on the GH5 to be very good. You clearly just don't know how to use it and then quickly spewed out your half baked opinion. Do your research and figure out why it doesn't look as good with Premiere. Take this video down now.

  • @murdock1655
    @murdock1655 Pƙed 5 lety +2

    this video is a failure....... 606 likes vs 1.3k dislikes.

  • @cinquinamedia
    @cinquinamedia Pƙed 7 lety

    There is a work around for this issue with the Vlog, just shoot in autofocus and no one will be able to tell that the colors fall apart, because it will be too blurry.

  • @AfoteyAnnum
    @AfoteyAnnum Pƙed 4 lety

    But I thought you weren't supposed to shoot V-Log in 8 bit...
    I was under the impression that you ONLY shoot V-Log in 10 bit...
    I think this is a user error more so than any fault of the camera itself...

  • @davnesto
    @davnesto Pƙed 7 lety +1

    I'm sure they going to resolve this problem with an update. I'm loving the Gh5 but I'm glad that I didn't bought the V-Log. Cinelike D works fine for me :)

    • @mattih
      @mattih  Pƙed 7 lety

      +Davide Nestola yea I hope so! It would be awesome if it worked well. And the gh5 is still a great camera for some uses

  • @EmileModesitt
    @EmileModesitt Pƙed 6 lety

    Matti, why don’t you make a new video as a follow up to this one where you look at some more GH5 VLogL footage and color grade it correctly with Panasonic’s official VLogL->Rec709 LUT? It seems clear that the way you’re used to grading log footage does not work with the GH5, so the problem is with your technique, not the camera. This is obvious if you look at GH5 footage that has been exposed and graded correctly.

  • @matkavlogi-thaimaa8288
    @matkavlogi-thaimaa8288 Pƙed 7 lety

    Cinema 5D started a flame war on this same topic some time ago. You should google it so you woun't repeat history here. 8bit vlog has allways been full of macroblocking (the green\magenda is called that) 10bit vlog is just fine. Converting to proress causes some issues in premiere so do mind that.

  • @JonathanLawrence_Director

    I'm not getting the problem you are getting with VL. I dont know anyone who is. The GH5 is a great camera - I dont agree with your assessment of the camera or V-Log

  • @rodneyschmidt3652
    @rodneyschmidt3652 Pƙed 7 lety +3

    I hate to say it, but I honestly have to agree with many of the other comments here... the first thing I thought when I saw your footage and the issues you were highlighting was "Looks he shot the log in 8 bit" and the second thing I thought was "Annnnddd... his color grade is not good."
    I've seen way too much GH5 footage that looked absolutely amazing without any of the red-green blanching issues you are showing here.
    I do agree with the VLOG installation. Pretty stupid way to do it, but eh.
    Also, have to second the comments about your title. Kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    • @jordanhearvey7744
      @jordanhearvey7744 Pƙed 7 lety

      Don't be drownin nem babies man! 😂😂😂

  • @BehindTheApex
    @BehindTheApex Pƙed 5 lety

    Have you tried using another GH5 with V-Log? Maybe you have a defect. I think it's over-exaggerated to dismiss the entire camera because of a picture profile being faulty. It would be equivalent to saying "return this camera because you cannot film in ISO 100" I don't think anyone is buying this camera to solemnly use V-Log. I don't even own it, and quite frankly I don't think it's a necessity. I'm a C300 Mark II and Ursa 4.6k user, and the GH5 is a powerhouse, hands down.

  • @filmmakingmasters
    @filmmakingmasters Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Wedded couple: "Hey, dude. We were trained to watch out for weird barely visible coloring in your video, and spotted nearly invisible red and green splotching on our skin. Even though you took a whole day to be apart of our wedding. Took the time to create this video for us. We want a refund...cause of the literally invisible red and green splotching on our skin...cause we're trained to specifically watch out for it."
    Idk man was about to unsubscribe, but your videos in the past have been quite helpful.

  • @MotivationalRipple
    @MotivationalRipple Pƙed 7 lety +1

    I am opting for the Em1 II as I also want the best photos I can get. Between my Sony's and my Olympus Em1 I have been very happy. I love Oly colors and always have. GH5 is a great camera in fact I love all camera's for different reasons. I can't wait until my Oly 25mm 1.2 arrives for some video shoots :-)

    • @mattih
      @mattih  Pƙed 7 lety

      +John Neff yea lets be honest there's a ton of great cameras to choose from!

  • @PrettyLady7282
    @PrettyLady7282 Pƙed 7 lety

    Agree with Carl at. 1/ stupid process to get and install Vlog. 2/ Adobe Suite is too expensive now with monthly cost. 3/ CineD is the way to go if u dont want to use Vlog. 4/ Resolve 14 is out. let see!!!

  • @Funkyflykiwi
    @Funkyflykiwi Pƙed 6 lety

    You mention the high frame rate in 1080, but honestly how often do you shoot in 1080? aren't all your videos 4k?

  • @heikogehrig
    @heikogehrig Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Get a refund/return on Vlog? HA! It's completely non refundable. To take it a step further, I had Vlog activated on a camera that immediately had a defect come up and they still wouldn't refund it/deactivate it to activate on the replacement. All in all the GH5 is still a beast, whether or not you're peeping specs. There still is nothing that compares.
    Interestingly have you seen the DPreview interview regarding Panasonic claiming the GH5's DFD will be better than any phase detection system offered by competitors? He sounds pretty confident/convincing. "Pipe dream"?
    If not the GH5, what will you be using as your primary camera? I think regardless, as always, it'll be a compromise. Or if you're the cup half full kinda guy, you can't go wrong!

  • @brycepeterson1913
    @brycepeterson1913 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    Some millennials have no patience. The GH5 is the best camera you can get for your money. Once they can have a software update for 10bit it's gonna be fine.

  • @penguinpringles
    @penguinpringles Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Are you sure it's just not your complexion? Maybe, cleanse, tone and moisturise more.

  • @bobbryan4487
    @bobbryan4487 Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Next Video about the Resolve video editor!!! thanks man for being a great teacher lol!!!!

  • @ErikCoon14
    @ErikCoon14 Pƙed 7 lety

    The best thing this video has done is made me take a second look at Davinci Resolve. I'm going to download it and see how I like it. You can set keyboard shortcuts for any other program you've worked with, so in intrigued to day the least!

  • @kshitijsingh776
    @kshitijsingh776 Pƙed 7 lety

    your channel is just sky rocketing , congrats on 70k , 100k coming soon, so happy for you!!! 😊

  • @danielwareking
    @danielwareking Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Terrible clickbait title. "An optional add-on feature doesn't work the way I want it to, so don't buy the whole camera." Right.

  • @biscuitsalive
    @biscuitsalive Pƙed 7 lety

    Firstly. Some of your prime examples have a shit ton of grass nearby with intense sun shining onto it.
    Of course you are going to get reflected green light bouncing around off the grass.
    So I wouldn't trust those clips to prove vlog gives you green patches.
    Secondly I do agree that vlog messes with your colours. But then so does any LOG profile.
    Personally I find Panasonic vlog more accurate in terms of colour than Sonys slog.
    (I find slog does protect highlights better than vlog though)
    And yes canon colour is better than Sony or Panasonic.
    But I think you maybe overreacting here saying it's unusable.
    You just have to learn it's quirks and grade accordingly.