Senzo Meyiwa murder trial | 15 April 2024
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- The Senzo Meyiwa murder trial is set to resume at the High Court in Pretoria.
In the previous court appearance, e-Natis expert Christopher Motlou wrapped up his testimony.
Judge Ratha Mokgatlheng granted a recess so the defence can prepare for the cross-examination.
Five men are on trial for the murder of the Bafana Bafana captain, who was shot and killed in 2014.
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Ntanzi's memory is out of this world...
It seems like the judge was emphasizing the importance of the defence proving that the phones in question didn't belong to their clients. However, the defense focused on less important arguments about OB, diaries, and registers, which wasted valuable time.
The defense for No2 didn't denie the ownership of the phone at all, they accept it. With that comes call logs and tower logs.
The defense for No5 only mentioned that it belonged to someone else, they missed the opportunity to argue that even if the phone belonged to someone else, it doesn't necessarily mean their clients had access to it. They could have highlighted that the alleged owner didn't allow others to use their phone, but they failed to convey this at all.
Defence are very clear because those OB and dairies are most fundamental evidence in this regard. SC Moshe
@Diplomaticmoshe The forensic data linked to phones can demonstrate communication and coordination between the accused, establishing potential conspiracy. Whether the phone was seized at one time or another for accused No.2 doesn't matter; what's crucial is proving the association with that cell number. He did not deny that the cell number is his.
Likewise, accused No.5 can deny ownership of the physical phone unit, but what matters is the link to that cell number. He did not deny that the cell number is his.
On the issue of the suspects then, now as accused, there is no way police officer can arrest any suspect and taken or kept in any holding cells without being thoroughly bodily searched, if this witness state that he did not confiscate or took the suspects cellphone or any belonging which are not allowed into holding cells, where on earth the suspect arrested and not searched. The issue of the suspect found with cellphone in the holding cell is very suspicious, as he was arrested, searched as he was classified as a high profile suspect, how was he could not being searched for any firearm or any illegal items in his possession. Now I'm definitely convinced this guys before court are habitual hitmen but they are not the correct suspects on the matter before court
😂😂😂😂😂next tum make it short
Anything is possible in South Africa prisoners are found with in allowed items in their possession.Ask us we know
@@maellyalphios3848in prison maybe. Not jail cell.
1:03:40 Police cells; someone is not telling the truth. So, from June 2020, he was charging in the cells. Traveling with the Mogane & Mabena booked at different Police stations (Phone in the pockets).
I thought the search the accused during the arrest & and booking, and they take personal belongings for safe keeping.
Haibo...jikijiki 3 inmates in 1 cell whereas they said he was staying alone
Exactly how Taxpayers money is being wasted. 8months to get things done.
The tipe of advocates. The whole government is like that
You cannot put someone in a cell without searching him/her, how much more the person you claim to be of a high profile
This head of prison should be arrested for lying in court
Xa esithini Mntungwa??? Mhlaumbi andimvanga...15/4/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Ukuthi wathola ucingo ne info ukuthi kunesboshwa esine phone,and akachazi ukuthi abaphenyi baqeda nini no Ntuli and what were they doing in prison after they were done with Ntuli
Ndikuvile Mashobane...15/4/2024
@@stanleykhumalo5158 my problem is Ntuli was not arrested for Senzo meyiwa case so y calling Gininda to take the exibits
Can someone plse remove this retired judge!
And put you? Never
You can't arrest a person and never search him thas a lie
This court must finish this case
Why this judge can't keep quiet he always protect the witnesses
Umkhusele kowuphi umbuzo Mangethe???? 15/4/2024
Gaan slaap.Because he must struggle with dom advocates.
Niyanya toe
Zwide njani ngk??? 16/4/2024
You so lost my friend shame
South African police officers in this entire country, if any alleged high profile suspect will never be taken to any holding cells without being searched, not a slightly chance
Sgt you are lyng and we not stupid
The administrative part of matters is not applied microscopically by the defense and all parties affected in this cases. Promptness is lacking which causes unnecessary delays 😢
Mshololo destroyed that fiction testimony of Mogane.
Qwabe andivumi...that evidence of Mogane about the cell phone discovered in a cell or from an inmate in Qalakabusha prison remained intact...unless andivanga kakuhle undilungise...soze ndikusokolise...15/4/2024
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@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us I read your comments and disagree with everything that stands for the accused😂😂
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7usavuvanga kakuhle impela!
Ok no problem. 16/4/2024...then tell me what was said!!
This witness ( police officer) I wonder which oath did he took on his official appointment as honest as well as to uphold the official mandate as police, as of now what he first sworn in, he's not understanding to assist the court, His alleged lost or misplaced Personal state diary with crucial information and of great essence in the evidentiary exhibit,, it's just a escape goat. This guy must be arrested to mislead the court, defeating the ends of justice and blatantly lie in the court of law
Ginindi, baloyi and bheki cele and those small people working under Ginindi as Swaziland Nationality who live in South Africa once I know all game for police they corrupt I’m praying for innocent Ntanzi
Sibalkhulu uthi uNtanzi umsulwa bamphekel'amanqin'enyathi....but if Zizi wabumamela bonk'ubufakazi nobukaMantyi mhlaumbi ungathetha enye into...anditsho ukuba unecala at all but ubufakazi bubekiwe phamb kwenkantolo...15/4/2024
All this guys are going down, i'm sure the court have aready started jotting down the judgement
Ntanzi his not innocent dear
So the investigating team was still waiting in the premises late at that time
😢😢😢
I enjoy the friendly yet funny exchanges that the Judge shares with Mr Munisi...lol
Standing trial for more than 3years🤔😭😭😭😭this is heartbreaking...i wanda why Fisokuhle is still seated there coz shame he is serving years🥺🤕😭
the moment the court interjects it disturbs the flow of cross examination, its clear that the police never raised a charge on the accused number 2 for being found with the phone in the cells until the court interjects
The defence needs to ascertain what period does the prosecution contend that the accused where in possession of or owned the sim cards and the phones.
They want to say the cell fone was swapped! 😂😂😂😂
Just imagine,, these defence followers are ....
Wena uthini?
Are what? You are also an .........
It is a joke, Nkosiyenkantolo
No they saying internal controls procedure was not followed
Lawyers usually take financial situation of client into considerations is supposed tonartige that they need legal aid.
A ke tsebe. Does he ever know anything umogane
Knows nothing he is a shame in the department
He should be fired
It doesn't make sense they went all the way from Gauteng to mpangeni just because they were told an inmate have cellphone on the cell? The likes of Thabo Baxter have cellphones in prison cells, and there are many prisoners who have cellphones in their cells, they just chose that qalakabusha prison.
The accused are even laughing 😂😂 kore South Africa 😢
1:53:24 is the Judge saying the witness' evidence is irrelevant?
Did the judge counted the delay wrt the ballistic expert, but he forgot how the state didn't have all their documents in place
They should ask him who accompanied him when he was opening the cell after hours because you cannot do that alone.
indeed u a correct
1. Area Commissioner,
2. Centre HOD
3. Head external security,
4. Head of internal security,
5. Head of SWAT,
6. Present Medical Officer,
All supra personnel should be alert for the reason why the prison will be open at night.
i. There's an escape rumours,
ii. There's a position of fire arm,
iii. There's a rumour to attack member(s), or
iv. The are manoeuvrability of gangs clashes set on or the dawn of next day,
v. There's a hostage rumour,
vi. A female member is targeted for sexual activity etc,
vii. There are items e.g cellphones, knifes, drugs or tools to be used in causing problems in prison.
Those 👆🏿 are few reasons why the prison will be open at night, also personnel's that supposed to be informed and be possible present, some of them are required to sign for such activities to take place.
He told the court that he was not alone he was joined by 03 officials who were on duty ...if I heard him wrong correct me guys m not stubborn...I may have heard the evidence incorrectly...15/4/2024
Why is judge not talking about the delays the state causes 😡😡😡😡😡. It took how long for Baloyi to get all documents?
Didn't Mogane say they received a call from prison head ??
Why is judge not talking about the delays the state causes 😡😡😡😡😡
So this police officer came to the police station ....went to the cells alone without signing their registers.....finds a cellphone in the cells.. doesn't alert his colleagues.....out of the gate that's that....
Interesting story to tell your kids when putting them yo bed
Why no one ask him why acabanga uGininda Uma ethola iPhone?
Uyena umphenyi omkhulu waleli cala
@@MazunguKaNgidi9770 umphathi wejele akahlangani namacala eziboshwa. Umsebenzi wakhe ukugcina eziboshwa. Kwakufanele avule icala kuphele kanjalo. UGininda was in Mpangeni that day and that raises suspicion Ntuli was being framed.
@@MazunguKaNgidi9770 uNtuli wayengaboshelwe icala laMeyiwa
@@bongumusamanqele154 ngiyakuzwa
@@bongumusamanqele154uthi Ntuli was framed but Mshololo akashongo njalo enkantolo uthe akusiyona eyakhe uthe kwakungeya Ndimande kodwa wena uthi he was framed, ngiyadideka la ikuphi okuyikhona okuphambi kwenkantolo noma okukuma comment section
It is obvious that the accused could not fund the cost of expert, but they asked their families to assist. Is this judge okay???? 🤔🤔
Judge Ratha is biased 😢
Is it illegal for a prisoners to have a cell phone in cell?if yes then why didn't they charge ntuli
I mean a security guard itself yooooo this Mogane
Even a security officer will know that the evidence should be recorded
Hogwash😂😂
Hogwash indeed 😂😂
Which is which that is hogwash guys??? 15/4/2024
😂😂😂
Iyoooo mogane he's lying again nd again
Who is lying when saying what Mangethe??? 15/4/2024 ndicela undicacisele mhlaumbi ndive wrongo...
Mogane is lying on which aspect Mangethe??? 15/4/2024
By saying Ntanzi was in possession of his cell phone ,but mogane didn't record on the occurrence book and now his diary is also not found
The defense for No2 should thoroughly examine the search procedures conducted when detainees travel to and from courts, as well as the protocols for cell searches and their frequency. By doing so, they can argue that No2 was alone in the police cells and thus could not have concealed a phone undetected for an extended period.
Judge is frustrated with the incompetence of someone
These people are talking about an EXPERT yet they pronounce it as EXPECT. They must get this right because this case is going somewhere else. Plus the defence talks about the expert's daily cost, will leave Baloyi to "drain" the defence's budget.
I also heard the judge saying"Expect"
Police wen is tym to answer thy forgt everything
This head of prison is lying because in prison when its closed he can't go there alone its not allowed especially when carrying the master key
He told the court that he was not alone there were 03 other officials who were on duty but he could not remember their names ...unless ndive wrongo undilungise Mbulazi...15/4/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us Yes he said so but ize kunjalo he doesn't mention if it was EST or not and how can he forget names of his colleagues especially colleagues who were under him
Danki mntungwa. Kudlalwangathi n ngeke kuvulwe ijele ngenxaye phone mcm
@@casperkhambule And legally ejele akuna visit after 4pm even if it's a lawyer so abaphenyi why were they still there
Mntungwa khumbula uthe latata if ngaba afunwa nyhani lamagama weza members (officials that were on duty) he can be in a position to identify them (supposedly, this is me not him saying, ngeDuty Roaster)...so to get hold of those members is not something impossible...Nakundilungisa uba ndiwrongo. 15/4/2024
Yhooo yintoni nale ndiyibona kule Court yhoooo Come 29 May
Yaze yanebhadi ingane yakithi, isibizwa nge high profile kodwa akaze Abe necala kusukela azalwa ngisho ekhaya
I allegedly comment on this alleged channel that is allegedly broadcasting the alleged trial of the alleged killing of the alleged goal keeper of the alleged national team
Reading the alledged comment by the the alledged commenter
It's all alleged that we are allergic to the alleged lies of this case
Who inform him about the cellphone to ntuli
Anonymous
😂😂😂😂😅😅You got jokes
He even said he was called on private number so obviously he was called by the ghost 😂
Quotes before doing work. What nonsense is this.
45:45 lady in green walks in a court room only to sit inappropriately and starts getting on her phone.
Mogane is telling a nice story for grade r is not possible to go inside the cell with any object from outside.
For cold cases, it seems you can and travel day & night with them (Mogane & Mabena) with any objects in your pockets.
@@YTL-hi5llimagine 😂
You have no idea of Thabo Bester story neh a person can go into the prison and get pregnant and go out
The accused should have been advised by their Lawyers that the amounts of monies required, their families can’t afford it. The Lawyers should be dragged before the Law Society.
You are pushing it. What is the misconduct there?
Lawyers should be dragged before the law society to do what? Lawyers can advice those they are representing but at the end of the day it's the accused instructions they finally do with it
Ratha again disturbing for no reason
You stop talk nonsense. Ratha must struggle with dom advocates
Panyo pako boss@@hanspretorius4019
The state is cooking the evidence 😂😂😂
Defence has a habit of delaying, Justice delayed is Justice denied.
Defense has not delayed one bit. We have the state that is delaying here. Leading unnecessary evidence or calling unnecessary witnesses
They’re disappointing. After 8months their witness is still not available.
What kind of the court does not Call the people who were in the house at the time of the commission of an offence, it’s really sad how those evils are protected
Mr The lan I'm with u NAMI ngyakhala kudlaliwe ngathi n tym n data wasting
They are too relax on duty....I don't think they are there to help those accused persons.
14 APRIL 2024
😂akazi nix lopoyisa😂😂
Ba molato batshware toke e phethahale ka senzo
Baloi plz when mona oe ahlalosa o ua mothebela if astop u probe a a abeg bruh
LpP
Be fair bantu enithi niphethe umthetho ,aboRamaphho niyabsvikela u Kellyniyamuvukela iqiniso aninalo ibani neqiniso niyawabona ama thumbu abulala uSenzo why ningawathathi niwagcume ejele njengabanye why niBusy nidla imali yombuso izwe liyalamba okanye anidinwa ukufaka imali phasikwemiCamelo na?yekani ukumosha isouth African
This thing of interpretation is annoying
These lawyers know that Inkabis who have no fulltime jobs can afford to pay or even afford a full trial.
We need 205s baloyi not ut natis here
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Ratha wethu
This judge umfazi str8
When a person is arrested ...he is thoroughly searched...meaning this police officer did not do his job ..he took Ntanzi to the cell...did not search him....came back after some time and found a cellphone......
Mxxxxxmmmmm
Ntanzi was arrested on June 2020 and the cellphone was found let's say 7 months later 2021. He was rotate to I think 4 police stations in GP. There's no way the station cops will never pick that up.
This person is a liar sies
Ramasepele you are the best hamba naye umanga man
The head of prison is lying
Dis witness is lying in front of umhlaba wonke😅😂
Mngomezulu useles
Are you not useless?
Etlist he is not useless but useles
@Nkosinathi,you want him to ask unnecessary question
@@Holycross146 yes
Is Nkosinathi useful if Mgo is useless?
Muganu typed d statement 😂😅lies lies u basted gininda gave u 😂bt 1day u will all pay for yo rolls dat u played in d mess we are in fanele niboshwe nonke maka kelly ,gininda,baloi,tumelo,zandi,longwe,mthoko,kelly nalama phoyisa angawenzanga umsebenzi to dis case
Mogane iwish u have a sleepless night till December 🤞for arrested d wrong people bcos of money
The judge is useless 😢
Useless like your father, mother and yourself , you're useless atleast for Ratha he is a judge and you?😅
Useless like your father, mother and yourself