Can we have a Warriors Orochi Empires? Imagine playing as a renowned warrior from the Three Kingdoms/Sengoku Jidai Eras, a demon, a Mystic, a god or a guest character from other games and take part in a chaotic scramble to rule the brand new land which was established in the Warriors Orochi games
The land would be confusing af considering in WO3 itself we have a fusion-confusion of TK era-Ninja Gaiden/DOA Japan-Sengoku Japan so yea, that also be interesting af
@@abdansyakuro1105 it would be amazing to see that happen. Imagine seeing Oda Nobunaga lead an army of demons, making him a literal Demon King, and he has Orochi, Da Ji, Taira Kiyomori and the other demon generals as his minions!
Real opinion from someone who disliked dw9 a lot ( I'll try not to drag it out) I'm actually enjoying dw9E so far! It's pretty good when it comes to the battles, the feeling of it being open world is still there but the battles are parted in smaller stages and I prefer it that way. Combat seems to be flowing much better than dw9 even though its still the same and with clones. Performance is more optimized compared to the horrible optimization we had in dw9, rarely had any fps drops or lag. The strategy system is much more improved and detailed, might be difficult to understand if you are just starting out with the game. Strolls lets you go into the open world and talk/bond with people. Downside would be, can't make your own troops and banners etc. limited amount of caw clothing, no dlc outfits for your characters. ALSO an important note is that when you want to share your caw character online it's only possible to do it with 1 character, and the code will be platform bound. I would recommend this game, but not at it's full price especially not the deluxe edition or the season pass for that matter.
Wait...there IS DLC, isn't there?` (edit): The DLC was available since the release of the Japanese-only version. I was thinking about getting some until I realized that it wasn't worth getting.
From what I heard this game saved Dynasty Warriors to the point we're finally getting a new game with Dynasty Warriors: Origin that is in fact getting a western release.
For the longest time, I didn't think Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires would happen. Now, here we are with a brand new game on our hands. What are your thoughts on the game so far?
@@Silver-ib1it I hate that you can't go to battle with your child in your first Conquest run like in DW8E's though, but I guess it makes sense. Having your child being 18 within a year is kinda strange, I guess.
An open world DW could have been amazing. Exploring the world to take down small forts to weaken the army before attacking castles. A good story and decent open world activities and it could have been 10/10. Unfortunately this team had no freaking clue what they were doing and it sucks ass.
By the way, the mid-battle interactions have been improved significantly, here's a few : Your Wife/Husband will have different lines mid battle than the usual lines they use. Characters that know each other will interact mid-battle too... Examples: Daqiao saved Xiao Qiao from a tough spot : "Thank you for saving me sis!" Guo Huai forced to fight Xiahou Ba : "Why must we fight... Xiahou Ba..." If you used a devious secret plan (like night raid). Some enemy officers will comment on you for using dirty tricks I still don't know if your child will have the same treatment, haven't tested it yet... But still, this is a GREAT attention to detail and i love it!
yeah. in my game playing as Li Damu (who I gave a created look.) I have been called out a few times for using night raids. the Sworn Siblings also call out to you during battle as well.
There's even a chance for you spouse to get killed with a scene and everything. I married Diaochan once, and Sima Yi had her killed on the battlefield. I wasn't going to lose Diachan like that though, so I quit and went back a turn or two. Won both battles too, so take that Yi, haha.
@@AngelkiiT if you press the up arrow when they are near you, they can follow you during the battle and can share Musou attacks with you as well. It just stinks that they can't ride a horse with you during strolls like companions could in the original DW9.
Haven't bought yet, but they missed some key aspects that don't seem so hard to do: - Chinese Dub, they opened that door, it was beautiful, and personally I want more; - Use explore open world to recruit bandits into your army, everybody did it in the original story, why can't the player? - I remember Dynasty Warriors Online where we could fight mythical creatures, it could be a thing to fill the map since they made a good job putting mystical places in the map - Foreign tribes, they were a thing with the yellow enemy armies in the base game and they are becoming a thing in ROTKXIV, why can't they be added to fill the map, but with personalized "main camps" for you to fight or befriend? Likely one or more of those are coming in a paid DLC. All we can do is wait.
They have unfortunately stated there's no plans for DLC outside of the season pass which is just cosmetic stuff. But hopefully that's just because they're holding back info to announce at a later date like the multiple DW9 season passes.
Yeah after watching my friends play it(they bought it because they thought it would redeem 9), I will quote what my one friend said about the game:It is a Samurai Warriors 4 Empires out of 10. Meaning that he would rather play that game then this one and while the game does small changes, it doesn't excuse the fact that the game still has the DW9 stink. Nice mini review of the game Chris and now I will go back to waiting for Fire Emblem Three Hopes.
Honestly, a DW with the combat of 8, the cutscenes of 7, the storytelling of 6, and maybe a better open world from 9 would go a long way of restoring interest in the series and bring it to it's former glory.
I won't be buying this after skipping the original DW9. Koei Tecmo need to get the message that this isn't what players want. The PS2 era DW games always felt like a labour of love, but the latest entries just feel like lazy money grabs.
This could have been their best-selling game yet, but it just comes to show that they are focusing more on other things. Remember that they are also still making Samurai Warriors and their God-seekers variant to DW's. That's how I see it, though, I'm probably never going to pick up and play those games.
When I played it, It almost feels like they ran out of money and time. The Game has so much potential. I felt like a lot was left off, that was supposed to be there. I am curious of what the full development would have produced. I'm sure 20-30% of the game didn't materialize because of money/time issues 1. Mercenary missions in the open world: Imagine escorting a carriage from Xu Chang to Luoyang. Fighting off bandit, animals and even enemy officers in that region. 2. Weather effects: A fire attack in a drought or opening flood gates during rain storm. 3. There are breakable items and things that can be set on fire inside castles during stroll. It appears some sort of activity was supposed to take place that never materialized. the peasants even react to arrows being shot at them. It seems if pillaging a castle was a real thing, but got turned into a menu item instead. I shot a container of water and got 200 gold???? shooting a gong gives 1 gold also. 4. Some regions have multiple cites and outpost, those would be a good location for raids and skirmishes especially for vagrant units.
I genuinely think that dynasty warriors 9 is what it was to 2, something completely untested that can be polished in the later games. Let's just hope that if they make a dynasty warriors 10, they can make it succeed like they did with 3.
One benefit to fighting enemies in stroll mode is that if you defeat 100 of them while accompanied by a friendly officer, they will give you a random item/gem/secret plan card after you end the stroll. I’ve received some good stuff this way but also some total duds. You’ll know you did it right when the officer shouts some generic appreciation about your combat abilities while fighting. I’m enjoying the game so far but it’s definitely more of an alternate take on DW9 than an attempt to push things forward.
Yep. It's also pretty cool that you gain currency or rations. Currency for defeating bandits and rations for defeating beasts. If you're in a pickle and need resources and looking to spend time with your companion while wanting a potentially powerful jewel or plan sometimes it's beneficial to take out bandits or beasts during a stroll. It also gives you a chance to learn the map KOEI have implemented in case you'll actually need it for DW10 in the future.
NGL, the only gripe I have with the game is that strolling takes up all the day - which is pretty annoying if you need to plan for the day, but get stopped because an officer wants to talk with you
DW8 is going to be tough to outdo. After all the support and DLC, that game is a beast! I've actually been holding off playing more of it so when I actually get my hands on a PS5 I'll be able to play the rest up to the platinum at its best.
@@ChrisGildart dynasty warriors 8 and Warriors Orochi 3 I feel are during a time I feel Koei and omega force actually tried to give us complete experiences. Lately I feel they've been lazy with their games. Too many clone weapons now and not enough after launch DLC content.
It doesnt look bad to me and I like 9 for what it is, but I just see no reason for me to pick up Empires when I already can play 9. Its a far better choice to invest time in DW8 Xtreme Legends, Orochi 3 and Orochi 4, SW: Spirit of Sanda, SW5 and the hidden gem that is the Beserk Musou game.
My biggest problem with Dw9 was the overwhelming content that at the same time felt like so little. This empire's title felt like it could be good inspiration for another game probably 10 empires lol
Got my fill out of DWE9. However due to it not having. Co-op the game fails for me. I got into DW with the demo discs on playstation. What really pulled me and my friends into the game was. Couch Co-op. Without it the game feels like 50% of a game.
Err. You do know that if your relation at C. They can accompany u when u stroll and when u get 100 k.o and end the stroll, you might get item the next day. The item is random but your relationship does improve.
while most of the open world is pretty barren the area past the great wall is a decent place to play around with weapon types and get the gifts from hitting 100 ko's with an ally accompanying you.
All I can say is I gave it a fair shake, and the combat system is such a shallow dumpster fire that it overshadowed everything else the game had to offer. I mean the empire building framework of old is there and functional to a respectable degree, but none of that matters much when getting my hands dirty on the battlefield is so mind numbing that it literally has me dozing off at points. I don't understand why spin-offs like age of calamity and persona strikers get fun mechanics with actual depth while mainline DW gets...this
Why change the combat after 8 games and tons of spin offs tho and give it a numbered title? That’s probably why I won’t ever pick this up, it really bugs me
I actually got the platinum trophy for this game, ended up falling in love with it along the way. It is a LOT of fun. I WISH it had an English dub, this has been the only thing keeping me from playing again.
Yeah this is a shame, I also heard there's no Custom Scenarios either which bums me out since that allowed for so many possibilities with the ability to make custom kingdoms, I'll stick with Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires.
One of the things I noticed is that a fair bit of the events are taken from past Dynasty Warriors Empires ganes. Like the dog event is taken from one of the ending scenes in DW6E and a fair bit of cutscenes from DW7E. On that note, I kinda wish there were more events for the fame stuff, and that we could have missions returned for strolling to give us more to do along with maybe some field battles cuz after a while, the sieges playing out almost the same way gets a bit tiring.
Amazing! If you take him over to the full game you should either give him the whip (Diaochan or Cai Wenji) or the sword whip (Zhang Chunhua, Fate Zheng, Xun You).
I think we're always going to need a go-to spam move in Chaos mode...always. The waiting during battles can get super annoying too, but sometimes, if you skim along the wall, you'll be able to zip-line up it if all the wall bases are taken. Also, if you scale the wall, you can open the castle doors from the inside by hitting the door once. I feel like if any of the DW9 games helped "save" the series, it would have to be the original DW9. DW9E's is fun to play, of course(really appreciate the additional OST's they added from older games, but now we don't have the actual *themes* of the Wu, Shu, Wei, or Jin kingdoms. That's pretty messed up). The officer interactions during your stroll, along with the beautiful Chinese Symphonica band can be pretty cool, but like you said, they could have done *soooo* much better. Could have been soooo epic. The fact that there's nothing gained when selling your belongings like jewels is extremely stupid as well. Once you have run out of space, you have to go on a stroll, and literally scroll through hundreds of jewels at the merchant's to sell them all for....0 credits? Who would want to play a game like that? lol DW9E's could have been the best DW's game ever(that's saying a LOT), but like I said in my Steam review. They REALLY dropped the ball on this one. I gave them a 6/10 but I still put down that the game is recommended to get so people can learn the new combat mechanics for DW10. Hopefully
(edit): skimming the wall doesn't help, but there used to be a jumping glitch where you could scale the wall if you timed your jumps right. Must have been patched because I can't get away with it anymore 😅 If anyone's still contemplating over whether or not they should get the game though, it's worth it. 100+ hours and 20 or so Conquest runs, and I'm not even close to growing tired of the game yet.
Honestly, it seems to me that the more they add the more they take away. In my opinion every dynasty warrior game i have ever play (which is all of them) feels incomplete. I was hoping this one would be different but it doesnt sound like that is the case.... So i guess im just done with this title. Which is sad cuz they could have always made a solid game just choose not too.
I like the Gameplay. Custom combos is what I've been waiting for in Warrior games. I didn't buy 9 but I bought 9 empires. So far I'm liking it more than I thought I would. At this point with Warriors games the combat system is the only thing for me that makes or breaks these games. With 9 Empires. I love the combat system more than the traditional Warrior format. Though the dumb enemies and the open world and the lack of things to do is a huge problem but one thing at a time.
I asked around to a lot of my friends who have this and heard almost nothing positive about it, which is a shame since i loved dynasty warriors. I wanna get it, but might wait till it is on sale. Unsure if i wanna drop $89 on this when i will only play it 4 days then Elden Ring is out.
I'm loving this game so much even with terrible combat system. I wish the menu and in between battles in the castle had more animated or cut scenes of you doing things (building army, defense, executing someone etc..) Also I wish the game explained some of the actions in each menu with greater details so you know how to build up an army right and develop land and commercial district. I spent many months with no army and later on I was losing some land because I couldn't defend all them at the same time. Also the flaming tiger is fucking bullshit hard!!
@@gseric4721 yeah I miss the old XXX,YYY combat, this new is kinda not fun. I just spam RB moves with Ice gem and freeze my enemies(I have the flat whip sword)
@@InugamiTheHound Yeah, ice is very comfy. I'm a Wu boi so I usually go with Zhou Tai's blade. It's super fun fighting crowds or fighting officers in Hard mode, but when it comes to Chaos, all I really do is spam aerial moves until the officers eventually die, lol. Fire makes things a bit easier since when enemies are airborne they take elemental tick damage as long as they are in the air. I have a video so you can see what I mean XD czcams.com/video/uc3fKOyAKPA/video.html
@@gseric4721 okay I like using ice because freezing them makes it easier for me to kill them (I'm on normal) sometimes it helps to freeze one officer and isolate him and kill him so the other one doesn't combo my ass up in the air and kill me. So what does slash, lighting, wind do? Poison does very little IMO unless you need rare gem for it do anything good.
@@InugamiTheHound slash has to be one of the most lethal abilities in the game. It pretty much can decimate a group of people if used properly with charge attacks. I rarely even use it on Chaos mode because it isn't fair, and it makes me feel sick to my stomach when I use it, lol. Wind is great for getting enemies off balance, but it's pretty much useless past hard mode(enemy officers can tank through it quite easily). Lighting lets you charge moves faster, and if you hit enemies in the air right after hitting them down with a charge attack(R1+X on a PS4 controller), you get thunderbolts that hit a number of targets at a time that does pretty good damage. And yeah, poison is useless, but I'm not sure how lethal it is in terms of plans.
This entry in the series killed it for me. It was lazy, phoned in, boring and just an insult to prior DW games. The tutorial broke for me 3 times in a row when I bought the original DW9 game. I just don't get why Koei tried to do something different after what 20+ years of releasing the same game just with roster updates? They wouldn't have made it to DW9 if people didn't enjoy the other 8, so why change?
i think in regards to the game, DW8E and SW4E did better than DW9E, but there is some stuff new inisde the game to make it fresh.for me it is ok if you don't have another Empires game to play, but if you got 8E, even tho the character customization is better and you can make some gorgeous stuff, there is actually less customizeable stuff on this game than on 8E... No Banners, Custom Scenarios, Changeable Weapons, custom armies, custom horses... for the customization is only your CAWs and that's it. that's what kills it to me. i was stoked to replicate a scenario i did wich was literally Modern China vs Taiwan transported into the 200A.D.s with lots of CAWs i did on 8E (i even made the banners of the two countries with their respective symbols. Mao vs Kai-Shek, Xi vs Tsai, and much more...) just so i would hit a wall telling me: nope, can't do that...
I'm gonna pass it like DW9. After phenomenal SW4 Empire, it looks big downgrade. SW4 Empire had everthing I wanted from an Empires game. They should implement good things from that game to DW Empires series. Anyway combat is biggest problem for me in DW9. If these combat system and empty open world continues, there is no point.
I don't think they will add more DLC stuff like outfits or things, then again it is KOEI so it might happen, I give them credit game works fine but it would be amazing to at least see relationship rank next to each character when I relocate them from one area to the other and not needing to remember who is S and who is B ALL THE FUCKING TIME and I play on easy so I have a habit to collect them all as they say, few bits bother me here and there but nothing major and final conclusion I am surprised that this is not that bad, original DW9 is and will forever be total shit but this I like, for some reason am on second playtrue and can't stop playing, I wanna WO4 empires now
@@SIRKskywalker it is better yes I agree but not that much then again it might be that I play on easy and just easy, with all the chaos that can get in one map I don't need to torture myself even more
They already do have DLC available but it's not that good and just remakes from previous games. There's like 6 or 7 different ones out, and I'm not getting any of them because it's just not worth it.
@@Dawn_Pearl I am not surprised, it was quick cash grab as they did not do anything that you can call brand new it is basically DW9 but done slightly better and I am not complaining, it works, I think DW9 empires is a decent game, not perfect and not next level and they did not bother too much on it, I think they just give the work to 5 of their employ and said make a new game, sad to see working game die this fast
Not Gonna Lie, I am kinda interested in this game, I thought Dynasty warriors 9 was fine (even though it has a LOT of problems), so Eventually I might get this one... I just hope it is not long as **** like the base game :v
It's definitely not as long as the base game. I finished two campaigns by the time I put this out and there are less campaigns than there were stories in DW9.
I just played DW9E recently without playing the vanilla 9 firsthand. Yeah combat is not great at all. I'd prefer the usual DW combat scheme + the kill trigger switch utilized here when the officers are stunned and lower than half of their HP (akin to Samurai Warriors 4), since the kill trigger doesn't appear reliably here. Now into the Empires aspect. This game really just hits the satisfying and unsatisfying to play at the same time, it's wild. I like the battle concept of siege-defensive war, but to be boxed within a square battlefield is just not good. The conquest mode is fleshed out well with levels like Brave, Benevolent, Evil, etc. and those affecting on what kind officers are optimal to interact is pretty fun, but to be restricted on interacting with certain officers within owned territories is just too limiting. It would be better if we can recruit unaffiliated officers straight away to their home at morning or night instead of waiting for them to visit our territories, making advancing relationship with a specific unaffiliated officers a chore. Not to mention strolling limited to a few action points are also not good. Although I didn't really care much to get my gold/rations back on strolling by finding and killing enemies, I just try to get 100 KO and call it a day so I can get Gems or Secret Plans to use because it's more faster to end the month and get Gold/Rations from the individual commands instead. Yes the conquest is decent, but there is no Free Mode to play freely like DW8E is a big no. I expected improvement of DW8E Free Mode like you can set boundaries of the battlefield by yourself on certain castles, villages, camp, or any area. Because there are so many unused castles in this game that you can explore but ended up not using. But no, You can only play battles in Conquest mode with set battles on a few castles only. And even then, we can't create our conquest scenario like DW8E. There should be a custom Event Battle for custom conquest in DW9E instead as an improvement from DW8E. But there is none. If anything, the Edit Mode is very lackluster compared to DW8E. No custom conquest, no custom warhorse, no custom soldier, no custom banners, no custom groups. Even though the Character builder is really good, there is just a massive lack of features on other departments. TL;DR: For an improvement of this game compared to DW8E, there are some disappointing removal of features that I think keeps offsetting this game out from the status of a really good game.
I'm probably on the same boat as you. Just recently bought DW9E without playing the vanilla, and most of the points you made are exactly how it felt to play for roughly a week. I've been playing since idk, dw2, and empires since 5. And this game feels incomplete to its core. In terms of character creation, the limited clothes/armor are extra dumb. Most of the fun (at least to me) came from doing new officers, having like 40+ different sets that you can mishmashing into some crazy combinations. Even to this day, i see the DW8E in-game downloadable CAW officers, and find some hidden gems. But then, you go into DW9E, and you have... 6 sets and half of those are shareable between genders. Donwloadable CAWs are hidden behind codes. It starts by killing a huge aspect of the game. Open world "seems" ok, but it's void of anything to do in it. Officers being region/province locked on both strolls and invasion/defensive maps drives me nuts. Invasions/defenses happens after a few months either way, do i really need to waste a whole month moving a few officers just so i can interact with them and/or use them to defend/attack a new region? Meanwhile, you are being attacked by 5 different armies, and still need to refill rations, now that army power and "available" units are the same resource, and you easily lose 20%+ per battle eitherway But hey, Musou Officers are looking their best on the new engine (despite a personal preference on the dw8 design overall), and the new events feel refreshing, right? Too bad that, in the long, this won't matter much.
pretty much agree. I feel like what is there in DW9E is good, but it feels like it could have been greatly expanded upon. The combat is just ok, I would prefer the old normal/charge attack system, just without 8's weapon affinity triangle thing. My biggest gripe I think is the battle scale limitations, I hate being restricted to only 8 officers. It feels like a waste of time having a huge army, when you're only really going to be using the same 8 officers over and over to fight battles because you can't use a large portion of your army, like say 20 officers to take down a heavily defended region........
I adore this game a lot but even I still have gripes with it. I strongly agree with the borders (the thick fog would have worked better) and the short events. And to be honest, even I thought this game wouldn't see a western release. (DW9 actually did exceptionally well in Japan, just not in the west)
Well it started with dynasty warrior 6 that made the fans be divided and in dynasty were nine is everybody hates the game pretty much and warriors came out nobody's not even talking about it
Dynasty Warriors Empires Series always be one of my favourite games, including Samurai Warriors Empires Series too. Specially the Create-A-Warrior/CAW system I really love. @Chris Gildarts thank you for the Pro Vs Con of Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires video, with this I can think to buy the game. But can I ask for your opinion? I plan to buy Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires for my PS4 in the future, but I feel hesitate to buy it cuz afraid the game will get some glitches when play. So from 7 to 9 Empires which one is the best one? (I'll really appreciate if you explained the reason too. I will wait your replay. Thanks again, keep up the good work and stay healthy 😉👍
Personally, I prefer DW7E. Things like the town and various events really made me feel like I'm building my own story. DW9E does that too, but the combat and open world doesn't hit right. The only thing about DW7E is that it's PS3 exclusive. So DW8E would be my next bet. If you really want DW9E though, I believe the demo is still available to try to see how it runs.
@@ChrisGildart thanks for replay and opinion, I really appreciate it. Didn't we can play PS3 game in PS4, isn't? I really want to buy DW9E but afraid it will suffer a down graphic like when I played DW6 in my PS2. From some video on CZcams, I saw that we can edit our children to look better (my other reason want to buy DW9E, I also like the cutscene where the wife give birth) and it can have siblings status/relation with other CAW, something that DW8E not have. Can I hear your plus and minus point of DW9E with simple explanation? Cuz honestly I'm kinda a player that have fun in game but sometimes get bother with a simple thing, for example like when I so disappointed saw the graphics in DW6
@@ChrisGildart after I do some research, I guess you right about DW7E is better than the sequel cuz the ending happened depends from what our doing. While DW8E n DW9E doing the same thing but probably something off from that games... Thank you for the opinion and suggestions... BTW I just aware that almost cutscenes in DW9E use most from DW7E and DW4E, while some of them is modification from DW8E (for example the confession scene)
For me Empires needs to abandon the castle sieges AND base capturing. The battles should play like the base game and xtreme legends battles. You should then have the layout be decided on many factors like how many troops each side has. Who's invading/defending and of course what strategies you bring with you vs the enemy strategies. This way battles can be large scale and use the full map and not feel so empty. Honestly that's a major problem with Empires games is the battles feel so small scale compared to the base experience since there is less officers and troops on the map at once. I'd also like them to stop butchering the soundtracks and just give us every single song again like we had in DW6E which to this day is the best option for music. Though gameplay wise I'd recommend DW7E for modern fans but for old school fans DW5E. I'd also like there to be water battles with the ships swaying around like in DW8 and you have to dock with an enemy ship to fight and unique maps for the different jobs like assassination or hunting. This way those jobs feel more unique and are not just recycling the large empty maps of the normal battles. I'd also like them to keep the seasons and we need time of day as well for maps so we can have variety and have it affect strategems and morale. Troops will fatigue quicker during winter and during a blizzard making it harder to see and certain strategems like fire type will not be effective if at all during the battle making it harder to fight if you rely on them so much. We also need longer deeper and more meaningful cutscenes ever since DW5E the cutscenes were just always so meh. They felt half baked and were awkward at times. The dialogue was also strange like the translators didn't understand the script. Also we need actual tags for relations so we can avoid incest cause ever since DW8E we can have children but after the scenario ends we save them as a custom officer and then they're not my kid in the next playthrough and may end up confessing their love to me at the cherry blossom trees..... Sweet Home China.
I hate the gameplay of Empires 9 but the character creation is Fire. The problem is 8 was so good but it's become the standard. For Dynasty Warriors 10 the Playable Officer vs Playable Officer should be upgraded so that going up against Lu Bu feels intense instead of a knife sponge. With 10 they should take the good and kill off the Bad
It's amazing that you can just flick of Bu the way that you can, but you can do this quite easily as well in DW8 Empires. There are times when Lu Bu is actually a challenge in DW9E's, but you have to enable the "Close-Combat" secret plan and he has to be one of the highlighted officers.
The biggest con of this game for me is lack of splitscreen. I enjoy playing Empires titles in co-op, but this game has none :( Also, Switch version is horrible and PS4/Xone are better, but still bad.
Koei need to remake the old DW 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 with new graphics and quite developing although i liked the DW9 outfits and Ma Chao Zhao Yun were my favourite and especially Ma Chao's musou animations when you jump musou was badass ughhh DW9 could have been the perfect musou if only they were smart to make the open world more lively with raiding farming with people co-oping etc..
You guys have so much Positive energy in having faith left in Omega Force. I heard from some employees of KOEi Beijing branch, that Omega Force is run by an Ex Konami deputy Director, who was responsible for Metal Gear Survive post launch content. It is time that Gust & Team Ninja had a goal in restoring the Roots of this broken franchise. By the way what was KOEi senior board and Akihito thinking of appointing a Walter Hamada corporate liar???
DW9E is a decent game, it's just an incomplete one. It feels like 30% of a game. But Koei Tecmo likes to predatorily monetize Dynasty Warriors. They want you pay $60 for the raw game, $60 for Empires then $60 for Extreme Legends - with a giant, steaming pile of paid-DLC in between, The ONLY mode that Empires has is "Conquest". And it's fun. It's interesting. I beat three conquests (two on Hard, one on Chaos). I did a Shu campaign, I did the Yellow Turban campaign (THE WAY OF HEEEEAVEN) and then I did a Wei campaign. Between them, I put about 40 hours into the game. I really enjoyed the political / military strategies. I thought the combat was really fun. I enjoyed collecting Epic versions of all the Artifacts and socketing them with full Epic gems. I grinded out Hexmark, Shadow Runner and Red Hare. I got about 85% of the achievements. Considering I spent $13 on the game, I'm not dissatisfied. But that's the rub. It's just the SINGLE game mode. No real campaigns. No battle of Hulao Gate, or Chibi or Heifei Castle. No Wan Castle, no Guangdong, no Yellow Turban. It's just an endless stream of the same handful of maps, on offense or defense, with no arching story elements. It's hollow. It's as hollow as the MASSIVE open world that is utterly useless in Empires. This game should have been included with DW9. They shouldn't be doing a raw game, an empires game and an extreme legends game. DW9 should have INCLUDED CONQUEST MODE. It just feels like a super fucking insulting cash-grab from a developer that is literally only still alive because of the good-faith of its loyal fanbase. Really sad stuff.
It killed the franchise for me........there were soooooooo many flaws and just boredon to truly type out, that I went through one playthrough with one create a general and I deleted it right away. 8 Empires was more fun and just an all around good game and I can actually use all my created generals (over 100) in various ways. 9E was a total waste of money.
Still none of you reviewers are talking bout the real problem. Do multiple officers have the same weapons. Is so they did not fix crap an this sucks tell the truth. I. So disappointed at this franchise that I always knee I could count on now its just lazy an greed . No thank u
@@jayduncan758 yup yup. But you have to understand the Old Omega Force team that designed Dw3 Xl DW4, Dw5, Dw7 and Dw8 were mostly either laid off pursuing their own careers or reallocated to GUST and Team Ninja. The Dw8 Xl and Dw9 teams are less experienced newer enthusiasiastic less game central bunch. Plus Omega Force is organised woefully by directors from other companies, one them allegedly to be an Ex Konami employee.
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 okay I can give you that but those un experienced still know what would be good an what will be bad dw9 was bad they should have got far away from that game as possible. If the dlc an updates create a good game experience then that means they had it the whole time an it will fail because of greed. I'm not giving them a pass I know it sucks. Nobody is talking bout it
@@jayduncan758 I know because the Golden age of Videogame quality Innovation, has been replaced by DLC lockers and Greedy Gachas. Like for Example Dw9 mobile game had more Work and support given to the version than the entire base game! Can you believe how low Omega has sunk?
I like the small battlefields. It makes the campaigns easier to get through imo. However the combat is definitely hit or miss. I dont even bother using R1 and other buttons . it breaks the flow of battle for me.
I find if you don't use the R1 state attacks, it can get boring using the same combo over and over, but I do agree it does feel clunky. It really should be like the skills they had in Pirate Warriors 4.
@@ChrisGildart yes wholeheartedly agree.. Or at the very least they could've introduced a proficiency system like W.O where you gain more attacks the more level up.
There's another issue with this, but moreover the base game. There's no feeling of progression. You level up and your stats grow. That's it. No new moves or anything.
@@ChrisGildart i mean your gems and artifacts carry over but thats about it. The weird part is considering all this I still enjoy this more than I thought I would.
Small battefields in next gen console era??? Come one lets be real, that will only expose the reputation of laziness and incompetence from KOEI in gaming industry more.
Base DW9 is an open world game while Empires is stage by stage and involves more kingdom management. Though I would personally recommend DW7E or DW8E over this one.
@@siberian4097 Just use a RPCS3 emulator :) I own both ps3 and the game so , i ended up emulating it here and i can couch coop online Via Parsec :) Best thing on the planet ^.^
Still prefer DW8E cause the mission like assassinated ruler etc. and hoping more event cutscene, like DW9... Or all cutsce from all prev DWE become DW8E cutcscene. Only hoping someone can mod the system hahahaha....
That and the quest missions those would be perfect hopefully we get more things to do in the future. I wish during strolls that you could actually train with your allies. Or get tracked down by a assassin
This didn't feel like a new game to me. It felt like a large DLC for DW9. Already had low expectations for the CAW but CAW weapons choices only show the character you are getting the weapon from and not the actual weapon you are getting like samurai warriors empires. It just seems like such a waste not to let the CAW characters choose their favorite weapon types and musou skills instead of making them copies of characters. Another thing I hated was how they took away everything from the vagabond option. There is literally no reason to not be a part of a kingdom since there are no missions you can go on or things you can do without a kingdom. Hoping that future updates make this game better and actually add to it but until I read something about that, pretty sure I'm just gonna be leaving this game alone
I haven't played as a vagabond since it was introduced in DW6E, so I didn't even know there was removed features on that side. I'm also hopeful that updates to the game give it some much needed meet on its bones.
The only point of going Vagabond is to aid in leveling up your character, becoming a ruler, or bringing in recruits for the ruler you are about to serve. Becoming sworn siblings and having a spouse before choosing who you will serve so you can bounce to a different ruler whenever with your sworn siblings(can have 3 in this game)/spouse is also beneficial...I guess. That hurt me as well. Trying to make things better because of KOEI's laziness is a chore, but it still doesn't hurt the experience too bad since the music/interactions with officers is so beautiful in this game. I don't think I'll ever get tired of hearing the music, and KOEI's brought back a lot of OST's they didn't have in DW8E's. But of course, they did something stupid like not including the actual themes from either Wu, Shu, Wei, or Jin. It's like they WANTED the game to be bad. There's something wrong with the game in almost every single area, it seems.
your character runs like flash poor horse i kinda ignore him,the combat system don't look as 6 it have a stop moment like others but worst it not just stop but the combos are trash,the pos are really the graphics and i hate why they take out the chinese dub
Dynasty Warriors games looks so... Gay nowadays. I loved the DW5. It was finally more like DW2 after 3 and 4 but better. DW6 was so bad that I haven't tried after that game any of these newer games. It was clear to see back then (DW6) the way officers dressed, the weapons etc they had was more like from the comic book universe than fantasy fiction about real history events. 15 years later: Enemy soldiers don't fight, you can't even call them zombies. More like sitting ducks. Officers run faster than horses, they fly on the battlefield when doing combat etc. After DW5 I wanted the series get a little more realistic and they went opposite direction. Nothing fancy. Just wanted them to replace weapons like what Guan Ping used, add a stamina meter maybe. You know like after some combos swinging weapon gets a little slower. After watching this video I can't believe how huge fan I was 20 years ago of this series. Now it looks... GAY.
a new dw game like dw4 or 5 will be blast , with expanded story and cutscenes like sw5 , we need manly guys back , more realistic scearios and make the game hard and soldiers pack a punch
Can we have a Warriors Orochi Empires? Imagine playing as a renowned warrior from the Three Kingdoms/Sengoku Jidai Eras, a demon, a Mystic, a god or a guest character from other games and take part in a chaotic scramble to rule the brand new land which was established in the Warriors Orochi games
Only if we can have Sterk
The land would be confusing af considering in WO3 itself we have a fusion-confusion of TK era-Ninja Gaiden/DOA Japan-Sengoku Japan so yea, that also be interesting af
@@abdansyakuro1105 it would be amazing to see that happen. Imagine seeing Oda Nobunaga lead an army of demons, making him a literal Demon King, and he has Orochi, Da Ji, Taira Kiyomori and the other demon generals as his minions!
I've been wanting that for a long time
i want that in the setting of WO1, where most of the land ruled by Orochi's vassal
Real opinion from someone who disliked dw9 a lot ( I'll try not to drag it out)
I'm actually enjoying dw9E so far! It's pretty good when it comes to the battles, the feeling of it being open world is still there but the battles are parted in smaller stages and I prefer it that way. Combat seems to be flowing much better than dw9 even though its still the same and with clones.
Performance is more optimized compared to the horrible optimization we had in dw9, rarely had any fps drops or lag.
The strategy system is much more improved and detailed, might be difficult to understand if you are just starting out with the game.
Strolls lets you go into the open world and talk/bond with people.
Downside would be, can't make your own troops and banners etc. limited amount of caw clothing, no dlc outfits for your characters.
ALSO an important note is that when you want to share your caw character online it's only possible to do it with 1 character, and the code will be platform bound.
I would recommend this game, but not at it's full price especially not the deluxe edition or the season pass for that matter.
I only wish we had “quest”, and those stealth missions where we had to sneak past guards like in dynasty warriors empires 8
Wait...there IS DLC, isn't there?`
(edit): The DLC was available since the release of the Japanese-only version. I was thinking about getting some until I realized that it wasn't worth getting.
LOL. That cutscene with Gongsun Zan saving the puppy was a literal copy of a ending cutscene from DW6 Empires
Are you serious? Oh wow.
From what I heard this game saved Dynasty Warriors to the point we're finally getting a new game with Dynasty Warriors: Origin that is in fact getting a western release.
For the longest time, I didn't think Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires would happen. Now, here we are with a brand new game on our hands. What are your thoughts on the game so far?
This game has been amazing the spouse overhaul especially the combat could have been better but overall I love it.
I'd say it's yesn't.
@@Silver-ib1it I hate that you can't go to battle with your child in your first Conquest run like in DW8E's though, but I guess it makes sense. Having your child being 18 within a year is kinda strange, I guess.
An open world DW could have been amazing. Exploring the world to take down small forts to weaken the army before attacking castles. A good story and decent open world activities and it could have been 10/10. Unfortunately this team had no freaking clue what they were doing and it sucks ass.
By the way, the mid-battle interactions have been improved significantly, here's a few :
Your Wife/Husband will have different lines mid battle than the usual lines they use.
Characters that know each other will interact mid-battle too... Examples:
Daqiao saved Xiao Qiao from a tough spot : "Thank you for saving me sis!"
Guo Huai forced to fight Xiahou Ba : "Why must we fight... Xiahou Ba..."
If you used a devious secret plan (like night raid). Some enemy officers will comment on you for using dirty tricks
I still don't know if your child will have the same treatment, haven't tested it yet...
But still, this is a GREAT attention to detail and i love it!
I didn't notice this, mostly because I don't read the text during gameplay and there's no dub. But that's cool nonetheless.
Yes~ I love the interactions soo much and I love the addition between your spouse it feels vey good to hear them say something
yeah. in my game playing as Li Damu (who I gave a created look.) I have been called out a few times for using night raids. the Sworn Siblings also call out to you during battle as well.
There's even a chance for you spouse to get killed with a scene and everything. I married Diaochan once, and Sima Yi had her killed on the battlefield. I wasn't going to lose Diachan like that though, so I quit and went back a turn or two. Won both battles too, so take that Yi, haha.
@@AngelkiiT if you press the up arrow when they are near you, they can follow you during the battle and can share Musou attacks with you as well. It just stinks that they can't ride a horse with you during strolls like companions could in the original DW9.
Haven't bought yet, but they missed some key aspects that don't seem so hard to do:
- Chinese Dub, they opened that door, it was beautiful, and personally I want more;
- Use explore open world to recruit bandits into your army, everybody did it in the original story, why can't the player?
- I remember Dynasty Warriors Online where we could fight mythical creatures, it could be a thing to fill the map since they made a good job putting mystical places in the map
- Foreign tribes, they were a thing with the yellow enemy armies in the base game and they are becoming a thing in ROTKXIV, why can't they be added to fill the map, but with personalized "main camps" for you to fight or befriend?
Likely one or more of those are coming in a paid DLC. All we can do is wait.
They have unfortunately stated there's no plans for DLC outside of the season pass which is just cosmetic stuff. But hopefully that's just because they're holding back info to announce at a later date like the multiple DW9 season passes.
@@ChrisGildart I do apologise I got emotional, the Dynasty Warrior franchise is going through what I call, the METAL Gear Effect caused by FKonami.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! Great vid as always!
Yeah after watching my friends play it(they bought it because they thought it would redeem 9), I will quote what my one friend said about the game:It is a Samurai Warriors 4 Empires out of 10. Meaning that he would rather play that game then this one and while the game does small changes, it doesn't excuse the fact that the game still has the DW9 stink. Nice mini review of the game Chris and now I will go back to waiting for Fire Emblem Three Hopes.
Honestly, a DW with the combat of 8, the cutscenes of 7, the storytelling of 6, and maybe a better open world from 9 would go a long way of restoring interest in the series and bring it to it's former glory.
only thing about 9 that is good is the models
@@philthethotdestroyer4194 these shit anime models
@@philthethotdestroyer4194 I dunno, the combat was alright in and of itself...
5 combat
No
As one thats defended 9. No it doesnt save the franchise and I mean not just dynasty warriors I mean the warriors genre in general.
I won't be buying this after skipping the original DW9. Koei Tecmo need to get the message that this isn't what players want. The PS2 era DW games always felt like a labour of love, but the latest entries just feel like lazy money grabs.
This could have been their best-selling game yet, but it just comes to show that they are focusing more on other things. Remember that they are also still making Samurai Warriors and their God-seekers variant to DW's. That's how I see it, though, I'm probably never going to pick up and play those games.
@@gseric4721 me too
When I played it, It almost feels like they ran out of money and time. The Game has so much potential. I felt like a lot was left off, that was supposed to be there. I am curious of what the full development would have produced. I'm sure 20-30% of the game didn't materialize because of money/time issues
1. Mercenary missions in the open world: Imagine escorting a carriage from Xu Chang to Luoyang. Fighting off bandit, animals and even enemy officers in that region.
2. Weather effects: A fire attack in a drought or opening flood gates during rain storm.
3. There are breakable items and things that can be set on fire inside castles during stroll. It appears some sort of activity was supposed to take place that never materialized.
the peasants even react to arrows being shot at them. It seems if pillaging a castle was a real thing, but got turned into a menu item instead. I shot a container of water and got 200 gold???? shooting a gong gives 1 gold also.
4. Some regions have multiple cites and outpost, those would be a good location for raids and skirmishes especially for vagrant units.
I genuinely think that dynasty warriors 9 is what it was to 2, something completely untested that can be polished in the later games. Let's just hope that if they make a dynasty warriors 10, they can make it succeed like they did with 3.
One benefit to fighting enemies in stroll mode is that if you defeat 100 of them while accompanied by a friendly officer, they will give you a random item/gem/secret plan card after you end the stroll. I’ve received some good stuff this way but also some total duds. You’ll know you did it right when the officer shouts some generic appreciation about your combat abilities while fighting.
I’m enjoying the game so far but it’s definitely more of an alternate take on DW9 than an attempt to push things forward.
Yep. It's also pretty cool that you gain currency or rations. Currency for defeating bandits and rations for defeating beasts. If you're in a pickle and need resources and looking to spend time with your companion while wanting a potentially powerful jewel or plan sometimes it's beneficial to take out bandits or beasts during a stroll. It also gives you a chance to learn the map KOEI have implemented in case you'll actually need it for DW10 in the future.
NGL, the only gripe I have with the game is that strolling takes up all the day - which is pretty annoying if you need to plan for the day, but get stopped because an officer wants to talk with you
Dynasty Warriors 9 was alright to me. DW8 is the best game in the series though. I'll be getting 9 empires in a couple weeks.
DW8 is going to be tough to outdo. After all the support and DLC, that game is a beast! I've actually been holding off playing more of it so when I actually get my hands on a PS5 I'll be able to play the rest up to the platinum at its best.
@@ChrisGildart dynasty warriors 8 and Warriors Orochi 3 I feel are during a time I feel Koei and omega force actually tried to give us complete experiences. Lately I feel they've been lazy with their games. Too many clone weapons now and not enough after launch DLC content.
It doesnt look bad to me and I like 9 for what it is, but I just see no reason for me to pick up Empires when I already can play 9. Its a far better choice to invest time in DW8 Xtreme Legends, Orochi 3 and Orochi 4, SW: Spirit of Sanda, SW5 and the hidden gem that is the Beserk Musou game.
I think KOEI knows that, hence their mediocrity in "releasing" this game.
i am still waiting for dam orochi empires game. when will this ever happen never but a copium dream.
My biggest problem with Dw9 was the overwhelming content that at the same time felt like so little. This empire's title felt like it could be good inspiration for another game probably 10 empires lol
Yeah, DW9E didn't hit the way I wanted it to, but it's definitely better than base 9.
@@ChrisGildart I still prefer it over dw6 as the combat actually has some semblance of variety lol
your videos never disappoint, chris.
Got my fill out of DWE9. However due to it not having. Co-op the game fails for me.
I got into DW with the demo discs on playstation. What really pulled me and my friends into the game was. Couch Co-op. Without it the game feels like 50% of a game.
Great game, the only complaint I have is the poor battle variety, every battle is a siege :(
Err. You do know that if your relation at C. They can accompany u when u stroll and when u get 100 k.o and end the stroll, you might get item the next day. The item is random but your relationship does improve.
while most of the open world is pretty barren the area past the great wall is a decent place to play around with weapon types and get the gifts from hitting 100 ko's with an ally accompanying you.
All I can say is I gave it a fair shake, and the combat system is such a shallow dumpster fire that it overshadowed everything else the game had to offer. I mean the empire building framework of old is there and functional to a respectable degree, but none of that matters much when getting my hands dirty on the battlefield is so mind numbing that it literally has me dozing off at points. I don't understand why spin-offs like age of calamity and persona strikers get fun mechanics with actual depth while mainline DW gets...this
The License holders put pressure on Koei to make a fun product with effort put in. Shame Koei don't care enough with their own DW products nowadays.
Best combat system of the series. V(-_-)V
Why change the combat after 8 games and tons of spin offs tho and give it a numbered title? That’s probably why I won’t ever pick this up, it really bugs me
Never saw this game coming, now that i saw your review, i'll give it a try
I actually got the platinum trophy for this game, ended up falling in love with it along the way.
It is a LOT of fun.
I WISH it had an English dub, this has been the only thing keeping me from playing again.
Yeah this is a shame, I also heard there's no Custom Scenarios either which bums me out since that allowed for so many possibilities with the ability to make custom kingdoms, I'll stick with Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires.
I forgot about custom scenarios too. Dang.
One of the things I noticed is that a fair bit of the events are taken from past Dynasty Warriors Empires ganes. Like the dog event is taken from one of the ending scenes in DW6E and a fair bit of cutscenes from DW7E. On that note, I kinda wish there were more events for the fame stuff, and that we could have missions returned for strolling to give us more to do along with maybe some field battles cuz after a while, the sieges playing out almost the same way gets a bit tiring.
Off topic but I made handsome squidward while playing the demo lol
Amazing! If you take him over to the full game you should either give him the whip (Diaochan or Cai Wenji) or the sword whip (Zhang Chunhua, Fate Zheng, Xun You).
Wait I need a tutorial 🥲
I think we're always going to need a go-to spam move in Chaos mode...always. The waiting during battles can get super annoying too, but sometimes, if you skim along the wall, you'll be able to zip-line up it if all the wall bases are taken. Also, if you scale the wall, you can open the castle doors from the inside by hitting the door once.
I feel like if any of the DW9 games helped "save" the series, it would have to be the original DW9. DW9E's is fun to play, of course(really appreciate the additional OST's they added from older games, but now we don't have the actual *themes* of the Wu, Shu, Wei, or Jin kingdoms. That's pretty messed up). The officer interactions during your stroll, along with the beautiful Chinese Symphonica band can be pretty cool, but like you said, they could have done *soooo* much better. Could have been soooo epic.
The fact that there's nothing gained when selling your belongings like jewels is extremely stupid as well. Once you have run out of space, you have to go on a stroll, and literally scroll through hundreds of jewels at the merchant's to sell them all for....0 credits? Who would want to play a game like that? lol
DW9E's could have been the best DW's game ever(that's saying a LOT), but like I said in my Steam review. They REALLY dropped the ball on this one. I gave them a 6/10 but I still put down that the game is recommended to get so people can learn the new combat mechanics for DW10. Hopefully
(edit): skimming the wall doesn't help, but there used to be a jumping glitch where you could scale the wall if you timed your jumps right. Must have been patched because I can't get away with it anymore 😅
If anyone's still contemplating over whether or not they should get the game though, it's worth it. 100+ hours and 20 or so Conquest runs, and I'm not even close to growing tired of the game yet.
This is what i've been waiting from you..
Honestly, it seems to me that the more they add the more they take away. In my opinion every dynasty warrior game i have ever play (which is all of them) feels incomplete. I was hoping this one would be different but it doesnt sound like that is the case.... So i guess im just done with this title. Which is sad cuz they could have always made a solid game just choose not too.
What about a final fantasy warriors game? Idk I'd play it. Been with final fantasy since 3 aka 6. And the warriors games since part DW4
I would love a Final Fantasy Warriors!
That labeling scheme of the series is not valid anymore. Just call FF6 FF6. It was only relevant the time it was released honestly.
@@fade2black001 well for the SNES the title on the cartridge and in game still says 3
@@fade2black001 Pretty funny reading this in a Musou channel, considering how we're one number off on all the mainlines.
@@Sephyroth97 yeah the japanese are funny that
You should play Persona 5 Strikers if you haven't it shows that Koei Techmo can still make good games
They make great games when someone else funds their project like Sega, Bandai or Nintendo
It's on the to do list and will make an appearance in a future Musou May.
@@milosmisic89 or even Tencent
I like the Gameplay. Custom combos is what I've been waiting for in Warrior games.
I didn't buy 9 but I bought 9 empires. So far I'm liking it more than I thought I would.
At this point with Warriors games the combat system is the only thing for me that makes or breaks these games.
With 9 Empires. I love the combat system more than the traditional Warrior format.
Though the dumb enemies and the open world and the lack of things to do is a huge problem but one thing at a time.
I asked around to a lot of my friends who have this and heard almost nothing positive about it, which is a shame since i loved dynasty warriors. I wanna get it, but might wait till it is on sale. Unsure if i wanna drop $89 on this when i will only play it 4 days then Elden Ring is out.
I'd recommend to wait unless you really liked DW9 to begin with. It's such a difficult game to recommend to anyone else.
I really wish that they would take out the rock , paper , scissors feature. Feels like it's just extra there for no reason.
You can remove it by choosing certain unit types.
I'm loving this game so much even with terrible combat system. I wish the menu and in between battles in the castle had more animated or cut scenes of you doing things (building army, defense, executing someone etc..)
Also I wish the game explained some of the actions in each menu with greater details so you know how to build up an army right and develop land and commercial district. I spent many months with no army and later on I was losing some land because I couldn't defend all them at the same time. Also the flaming tiger is fucking bullshit hard!!
Wait you think the combat system is terrible? I think it's pretty cool, though it can be clunky at times with interactions.
@@gseric4721 yeah I miss the old XXX,YYY combat, this new is kinda not fun. I just spam RB moves with Ice gem and freeze my enemies(I have the flat whip sword)
@@InugamiTheHound Yeah, ice is very comfy. I'm a Wu boi so I usually go with Zhou Tai's blade. It's super fun fighting crowds or fighting officers in Hard mode, but when it comes to Chaos, all I really do is spam aerial moves until the officers eventually die, lol. Fire makes things a bit easier since when enemies are airborne they take elemental tick damage as long as they are in the air.
I have a video so you can see what I mean XD
czcams.com/video/uc3fKOyAKPA/video.html
@@gseric4721 okay I like using ice because freezing them makes it easier for me to kill them (I'm on normal) sometimes it helps to freeze one officer and isolate him and kill him so the other one doesn't combo my ass up in the air and kill me. So what does slash, lighting, wind do? Poison does very little IMO unless you need rare gem for it do anything good.
@@InugamiTheHound slash has to be one of the most lethal abilities in the game. It pretty much can decimate a group of people if used properly with charge attacks. I rarely even use it on Chaos mode because it isn't fair, and it makes me feel sick to my stomach when I use it, lol.
Wind is great for getting enemies off balance, but it's pretty much useless past hard mode(enemy officers can tank through it quite easily). Lighting lets you charge moves faster, and if you hit enemies in the air right after hitting them down with a charge attack(R1+X on a PS4 controller), you get thunderbolts that hit a number of targets at a time that does pretty good damage. And yeah, poison is useless, but I'm not sure how lethal it is in terms of plans.
This entry in the series killed it for me. It was lazy, phoned in, boring and just an insult to prior DW games. The tutorial broke for me 3 times in a row when I bought the original DW9 game. I just don't get why Koei tried to do something different after what 20+ years of releasing the same game just with roster updates? They wouldn't have made it to DW9 if people didn't enjoy the other 8, so why change?
i think in regards to the game, DW8E and SW4E did better than DW9E, but there is some stuff new inisde the game to make it fresh.for me it is ok if you don't have another Empires game to play, but if you got 8E, even tho the character customization is better and you can make some gorgeous stuff, there is actually less customizeable stuff on this game than on 8E... No Banners, Custom Scenarios, Changeable Weapons, custom armies, custom horses... for the customization is only your CAWs and that's it. that's what kills it to me.
i was stoked to replicate a scenario i did wich was literally Modern China vs Taiwan transported into the 200A.D.s with lots of CAWs i did on 8E (i even made the banners of the two countries with their respective symbols. Mao vs Kai-Shek, Xi vs Tsai, and much more...) just so i would hit a wall telling me: nope, can't do that...
This game is worth $40 at most
Naw $20 at most
I feel the same way.
Naw $40 is way too much for recycled shit
fingers crossed that the loading screens aren't long on the series X
they aren't,I have Series S and they breeze by.
I'm gonna pass it like DW9. After phenomenal SW4 Empire, it looks big downgrade. SW4 Empire had everthing I wanted from an Empires game. They should implement good things from that game to DW Empires series. Anyway combat is biggest problem for me in DW9. If these combat system and empty open world continues, there is no point.
Must kill 1000 boars with Lu Bu listening too Live Too Win :P
I don't think they will add more DLC stuff like outfits or things, then again it is KOEI so it might happen, I give them credit game works fine but it would be amazing to at least see relationship rank next to each character when I relocate them from one area to the other and not needing to remember who is S and who is B ALL THE FUCKING TIME and I play on easy so I have a habit to collect them all as they say, few bits bother me here and there but nothing major and final conclusion I am surprised that this is not that bad, original DW9 is and will forever be total shit but this I like, for some reason am on second playtrue and can't stop playing, I wanna WO4 empires now
I feel like the AI is way better and it actually take strategy to win battles this time
@@SIRKskywalker it is better yes I agree but not that much then again it might be that I play on easy and just easy, with all the chaos that can get in one map I don't need to torture myself even more
They already do have DLC available but it's not that good and just remakes from previous games. There's like 6 or 7 different ones out, and I'm not getting any of them because it's just not worth it.
And look how right you were 😂😂
So sad koei makes the state of the game dead by adding nothing...
@@Dawn_Pearl I am not surprised, it was quick cash grab as they did not do anything that you can call brand new it is basically DW9 but done slightly better and I am not complaining, it works, I think DW9 empires is a decent game, not perfect and not next level and they did not bother too much on it, I think they just give the work to 5 of their employ and said make a new game, sad to see working game die this fast
100% agreed on everything you said
Not Gonna Lie, I am kinda interested in this game, I thought Dynasty warriors 9 was fine (even though it has a LOT of problems), so Eventually I might get this one... I just hope it is not long as **** like the base game :v
It's definitely not as long as the base game. I finished two campaigns by the time I put this out and there are less campaigns than there were stories in DW9.
I just played DW9E recently without playing the vanilla 9 firsthand. Yeah combat is not great at all. I'd prefer the usual DW combat scheme + the kill trigger switch utilized here when the officers are stunned and lower than half of their HP (akin to Samurai Warriors 4), since the kill trigger doesn't appear reliably here. Now into the Empires aspect.
This game really just hits the satisfying and unsatisfying to play at the same time, it's wild. I like the battle concept of siege-defensive war, but to be boxed within a square battlefield is just not good. The conquest mode is fleshed out well with levels like Brave, Benevolent, Evil, etc. and those affecting on what kind officers are optimal to interact is pretty fun, but to be restricted on interacting with certain officers within owned territories is just too limiting. It would be better if we can recruit unaffiliated officers straight away to their home at morning or night instead of waiting for them to visit our territories, making advancing relationship with a specific unaffiliated officers a chore. Not to mention strolling limited to a few action points are also not good. Although I didn't really care much to get my gold/rations back on strolling by finding and killing enemies, I just try to get 100 KO and call it a day so I can get Gems or Secret Plans to use because it's more faster to end the month and get Gold/Rations from the individual commands instead.
Yes the conquest is decent, but there is no Free Mode to play freely like DW8E is a big no. I expected improvement of DW8E Free Mode like you can set boundaries of the battlefield by yourself on certain castles, villages, camp, or any area. Because there are so many unused castles in this game that you can explore but ended up not using. But no, You can only play battles in Conquest mode with set battles on a few castles only.
And even then, we can't create our conquest scenario like DW8E. There should be a custom Event Battle for custom conquest in DW9E instead as an improvement from DW8E. But there is none. If anything, the Edit Mode is very lackluster compared to DW8E. No custom conquest, no custom warhorse, no custom soldier, no custom banners, no custom groups. Even though the Character builder is really good, there is just a massive lack of features on other departments.
TL;DR: For an improvement of this game compared to DW8E, there are some disappointing removal of features that I think keeps offsetting this game out from the status of a really good game.
I'm probably on the same boat as you. Just recently bought DW9E without playing the vanilla, and most of the points you made are exactly how it felt to play for roughly a week.
I've been playing since idk, dw2, and empires since 5. And this game feels incomplete to its core.
In terms of character creation, the limited clothes/armor are extra dumb. Most of the fun (at least to me) came from doing new officers, having like 40+ different sets that you can mishmashing into some crazy combinations. Even to this day, i see the DW8E in-game downloadable CAW officers, and find some hidden gems. But then, you go into DW9E, and you have... 6 sets and half of those are shareable between genders. Donwloadable CAWs are hidden behind codes. It starts by killing a huge aspect of the game.
Open world "seems" ok, but it's void of anything to do in it. Officers being region/province locked on both strolls and invasion/defensive maps drives me nuts. Invasions/defenses happens after a few months either way, do i really need to waste a whole month moving a few officers just so i can interact with them and/or use them to defend/attack a new region? Meanwhile, you are being attacked by 5 different armies, and still need to refill rations, now that army power and "available" units are the same resource, and you easily lose 20%+ per battle eitherway
But hey, Musou Officers are looking their best on the new engine (despite a personal preference on the dw8 design overall), and the new events feel refreshing, right? Too bad that, in the long, this won't matter much.
pretty much agree. I feel like what is there in DW9E is good, but it feels like it could have been greatly expanded upon. The combat is just ok, I would prefer the old normal/charge attack system, just without 8's weapon affinity triangle thing. My biggest gripe I think is the battle scale limitations, I hate being restricted to only 8 officers. It feels like a waste of time having a huge army, when you're only really going to be using the same 8 officers over and over to fight battles because you can't use a large portion of your army, like say 20 officers to take down a heavily defended region........
I adore this game a lot but even I still have gripes with it. I strongly agree with the borders (the thick fog would have worked better) and the short events.
And to be honest, even I thought this game wouldn't see a western release. (DW9 actually did exceptionally well in Japan, just not in the west)
Well it started with dynasty warrior 6 that made the fans be divided and in dynasty were nine is everybody hates the game pretty much and warriors came out nobody's not even talking about it
Dynasty Warriors Empires Series always be one of my favourite games, including Samurai Warriors Empires Series too. Specially the Create-A-Warrior/CAW system I really love.
@Chris Gildarts thank you for the Pro Vs Con of Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires video, with this I can think to buy the game. But can I ask for your opinion? I plan to buy Dynasty Warriors 9 Empires for my PS4 in the future, but I feel hesitate to buy it cuz afraid the game will get some glitches when play. So from 7 to 9 Empires which one is the best one? (I'll really appreciate if you explained the reason too. I will wait your replay.
Thanks again, keep up the good work and stay healthy 😉👍
Personally, I prefer DW7E. Things like the town and various events really made me feel like I'm building my own story. DW9E does that too, but the combat and open world doesn't hit right. The only thing about DW7E is that it's PS3 exclusive. So DW8E would be my next bet. If you really want DW9E though, I believe the demo is still available to try to see how it runs.
@@ChrisGildart thanks for replay and opinion, I really appreciate it. Didn't we can play PS3 game in PS4, isn't? I really want to buy DW9E but afraid it will suffer a down graphic like when I played DW6 in my PS2.
From some video on CZcams, I saw that we can edit our children to look better (my other reason want to buy DW9E, I also like the cutscene where the wife give birth) and it can have siblings status/relation with other CAW, something that DW8E not have.
Can I hear your plus and minus point of DW9E with simple explanation? Cuz honestly I'm kinda a player that have fun in game but sometimes get bother with a simple thing, for example like when I so disappointed saw the graphics in DW6
@@ChrisGildart after I do some research, I guess you right about DW7E is better than the sequel cuz the ending happened depends from what our doing. While DW8E n DW9E doing the same thing but probably something off from that games... Thank you for the opinion and suggestions...
BTW I just aware that almost cutscenes in DW9E use most from DW7E and DW4E, while some of them is modification from DW8E (for example the confession scene)
For me Empires needs to abandon the castle sieges AND base capturing. The battles should play like the base game and xtreme legends battles. You should then have the layout be decided on many factors like how many troops each side has. Who's invading/defending and of course what strategies you bring with you vs the enemy strategies. This way battles can be large scale and use the full map and not feel so empty. Honestly that's a major problem with Empires games is the battles feel so small scale compared to the base experience since there is less officers and troops on the map at once. I'd also like them to stop butchering the soundtracks and just give us every single song again like we had in DW6E which to this day is the best option for music. Though gameplay wise I'd recommend DW7E for modern fans but for old school fans DW5E. I'd also like there to be water battles with the ships swaying around like in DW8 and you have to dock with an enemy ship to fight and unique maps for the different jobs like assassination or hunting. This way those jobs feel more unique and are not just recycling the large empty maps of the normal battles. I'd also like them to keep the seasons and we need time of day as well for maps so we can have variety and have it affect strategems and morale. Troops will fatigue quicker during winter and during a blizzard making it harder to see and certain strategems like fire type will not be effective if at all during the battle making it harder to fight if you rely on them so much. We also need longer deeper and more meaningful cutscenes ever since DW5E the cutscenes were just always so meh. They felt half baked and were awkward at times. The dialogue was also strange like the translators didn't understand the script. Also we need actual tags for relations so we can avoid incest cause ever since DW8E we can have children but after the scenario ends we save them as a custom officer and then they're not my kid in the next playthrough and may end up confessing their love to me at the cherry blossom trees..... Sweet Home China.
I hate the gameplay of Empires 9 but the character creation is Fire. The problem is 8 was so good but it's become the standard. For Dynasty Warriors 10 the Playable Officer vs Playable Officer should be upgraded so that going up against Lu Bu feels intense instead of a knife sponge.
With 10 they should take the good and kill off the Bad
It's amazing that you can just flick of Bu the way that you can, but you can do this quite easily as well in DW8 Empires. There are times when Lu Bu is actually a challenge in DW9E's, but you have to enable the "Close-Combat" secret plan and he has to be one of the highlighted officers.
The biggest con of this game for me is lack of splitscreen. I enjoy playing Empires titles in co-op, but this game has none :(
Also, Switch version is horrible and PS4/Xone are better, but still bad.
Koei need to remake the old DW 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 with new graphics and quite developing although i liked the DW9 outfits and Ma Chao Zhao Yun were my favourite and especially Ma Chao's musou animations when you jump musou was badass ughhh DW9 could have been the perfect musou if only they were smart to make the open world more lively with raiding farming with people co-oping etc..
If they just bring back Destiny Mode, I can forgive them for everything
@@scorch1624 Yeah 😔
You guys have so much Positive energy in having faith left in Omega Force. I heard from some employees of KOEi Beijing branch, that Omega Force is run by an Ex Konami deputy Director, who was responsible for Metal Gear Survive post launch content. It is time that Gust & Team Ninja had a goal in restoring the Roots of this broken franchise. By the way what was KOEi senior board and Akihito thinking of appointing a Walter Hamada corporate liar???
Can you issue orders mid battle?
Still no English dub?
You can still issue orders mid battle, but it is a bit different. And no, there is no English dub.
DW9E is a decent game, it's just an incomplete one. It feels like 30% of a game. But Koei Tecmo likes to predatorily monetize Dynasty Warriors. They want you pay $60 for the raw game, $60 for Empires then $60 for Extreme Legends - with a giant, steaming pile of paid-DLC in between,
The ONLY mode that Empires has is "Conquest". And it's fun. It's interesting. I beat three conquests (two on Hard, one on Chaos). I did a Shu campaign, I did the Yellow Turban campaign (THE WAY OF HEEEEAVEN) and then I did a Wei campaign. Between them, I put about 40 hours into the game. I really enjoyed the political / military strategies. I thought the combat was really fun. I enjoyed collecting Epic versions of all the Artifacts and socketing them with full Epic gems. I grinded out Hexmark, Shadow Runner and Red Hare. I got about 85% of the achievements. Considering I spent $13 on the game, I'm not dissatisfied.
But that's the rub. It's just the SINGLE game mode. No real campaigns. No battle of Hulao Gate, or Chibi or Heifei Castle. No Wan Castle, no Guangdong, no Yellow Turban. It's just an endless stream of the same handful of maps, on offense or defense, with no arching story elements. It's hollow. It's as hollow as the MASSIVE open world that is utterly useless in Empires. This game should have been included with DW9. They shouldn't be doing a raw game, an empires game and an extreme legends game. DW9 should have INCLUDED CONQUEST MODE.
It just feels like a super fucking insulting cash-grab from a developer that is literally only still alive because of the good-faith of its loyal fanbase. Really sad stuff.
The cons are on point.
It killed the franchise for me........there were soooooooo many flaws and just boredon to truly type out, that I went through one playthrough with one create a general and I deleted it right away.
8 Empires was more fun and just an all around good game and I can actually use all my created generals (over 100) in various ways.
9E was a total waste of money.
Still none of you reviewers are talking bout the real problem. Do multiple officers have the same weapons. Is so they did not fix crap an this sucks tell the truth. I. So disappointed at this franchise that I always knee I could count on now its just lazy an greed . No thank u
Generic officers use the same movesets from the musou characters. For example, spear users use ma chao’s moveset.
@@jeremydean1718 from previous games I want the unique weapons not like dw9 that garbage they pulled.
@@jayduncan758 yup yup. But you have to understand the Old Omega Force team that designed Dw3 Xl DW4, Dw5, Dw7 and Dw8 were mostly either laid off pursuing their own careers or reallocated to GUST and Team Ninja. The Dw8 Xl and Dw9 teams are less experienced newer enthusiasiastic less game central bunch. Plus Omega Force is organised woefully by directors from other companies, one them allegedly to be an Ex Konami employee.
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 okay I can give you that but those un experienced still know what would be good an what will be bad dw9 was bad they should have got far away from that game as possible. If the dlc an updates create a good game experience then that means they had it the whole time an it will fail because of greed. I'm not giving them a pass I know it sucks. Nobody is talking bout it
@@jayduncan758 I know because the Golden age of Videogame quality Innovation, has been replaced by DLC lockers and Greedy Gachas. Like for Example Dw9 mobile game had more Work and support given to the version than the entire base game! Can you believe how low Omega has sunk?
In your opinion, which is the best DW:E game?
Personally prefer DW7E.
@@ChrisGildart Too bad that doesn't have a PC release and emulating it is not so good.
@@fade2black001 Yeah but the only thing i'd love to see is Warriors Orochi Empires somehow merging both japan and china continent together.
Your videos are great, i just thought hearing your voice you would have at least 100k+ plus subs, you deserve more fs, keep it up 🫶
Thanks! Glad you enjoy the content.
When is the extreme legends expansion of this?
There is no Xtreme Legends for 9. They did season passes instead.
After Koei/Capcom lawsuit, think its safe to say Xtreme Legends is never happening again. That’s why we have SW4-II and etc instead of XL
Capcom patent expired though so who knows. But with the paid dlc practices and recloning Koei seems to do every generation. Doesn’t look bright to me
@Chris Gildart thank God. I just want to skip to 10 already and hopefully its the last one
I like the small battlefields. It makes the campaigns easier to get through imo. However the combat is definitely hit or miss. I dont even bother using R1 and other buttons . it breaks the flow of battle for me.
I find if you don't use the R1 state attacks, it can get boring using the same combo over and over, but I do agree it does feel clunky. It really should be like the skills they had in Pirate Warriors 4.
@@ChrisGildart yes wholeheartedly agree.. Or at the very least they could've introduced a proficiency system like W.O where you gain more attacks the more level up.
There's another issue with this, but moreover the base game. There's no feeling of progression. You level up and your stats grow. That's it. No new moves or anything.
@@ChrisGildart i mean your gems and artifacts carry over but thats about it.
The weird part is considering all this I still enjoy this more than I thought I would.
Small battefields in next gen console era??? Come one lets be real, that will only expose the reputation of laziness and incompetence from KOEI in gaming industry more.
The loading screen simulator lol, I'm sad I bought this game. Maybe its just trash on ps4?
It runs much better on PS5, can confirm. But at least the loading screens aren't like vanilla DW9.
What’s the difference between DW9 + the Empires format?
Base DW9 is an open world game while Empires is stage by stage and involves more kingdom management. Though I would personally recommend DW7E or DW8E over this one.
I'm hoping we see a release on modern consoles or PC, but I have a feeling that will never happen...
@@siberian4097 Just use a RPCS3 emulator :) I own both ps3 and the game so , i ended up emulating it here and i can couch coop online Via Parsec :) Best thing on the planet ^.^
I got all the event battles in the 190 start. I’m trying to do the same for the 184 but I think it’s impossible to
For me Dynasty Warriors 9 is still my favourite of them all 😊
Still prefer DW8E cause the mission like assassinated ruler etc. and hoping more event cutscene, like DW9... Or all cutsce from all prev DWE become DW8E cutcscene. Only hoping someone can mod the system hahahaha....
That and the quest missions those would be perfect hopefully we get more things to do in the future. I wish during strolls that you could actually train with your allies. Or get tracked down by a assassin
dw8E is one of the most horrible from the entire empires franchise, the endings are always the same, such a horrible game
This didn't feel like a new game to me. It felt like a large DLC for DW9.
Already had low expectations for the CAW but CAW weapons choices only show the character you are getting the weapon from and not the actual weapon you are getting like samurai warriors empires. It just seems like such a waste not to let the CAW characters choose their favorite weapon types and musou skills instead of making them copies of characters.
Another thing I hated was how they took away everything from the vagabond option. There is literally no reason to not be a part of a kingdom since there are no missions you can go on or things you can do without a kingdom.
Hoping that future updates make this game better and actually add to it but until I read something about that, pretty sure I'm just gonna be leaving this game alone
I haven't played as a vagabond since it was introduced in DW6E, so I didn't even know there was removed features on that side. I'm also hopeful that updates to the game give it some much needed meet on its bones.
The only point of going Vagabond is to aid in leveling up your character, becoming a ruler, or bringing in recruits for the ruler you are about to serve. Becoming sworn siblings and having a spouse before choosing who you will serve so you can bounce to a different ruler whenever with your sworn siblings(can have 3 in this game)/spouse is also beneficial...I guess.
That hurt me as well. Trying to make things better because of KOEI's laziness is a chore, but it still doesn't hurt the experience too bad since the music/interactions with officers is so beautiful in this game. I don't think I'll ever get tired of hearing the music, and KOEI's brought back a lot of OST's they didn't have in DW8E's. But of course, they did something stupid like not including the actual themes from either Wu, Shu, Wei, or Jin. It's like they WANTED the game to be bad. There's something wrong with the game in almost every single area, it seems.
I couldn't win playing that demo
Still not getting this game
Dw fans are just mad that they didnt rerelease dw5 over and over again
DW5 was at least engaging... maybe not as engaging as DW4
I just don't understand why we can't make a custom kingdom anymore. Combined with full custom officers, that feature was INCREDIBLE.
6/10 No Sterk
And still no new dlc's whatsoever :(
Game got neglected ever since it game out so sad
Would have loved to see them bring the old costumes that they put into the mobile game. Don't know why they didn't just do that.
Dw9 and dw9e are let downs
your character runs like flash poor horse i kinda ignore him,the combat system don't look as 6 it have a stop moment like others but worst it not just stop but the combos are trash,the pos are really the graphics and i hate why they take out the chinese dub
I would Pay $50 for a dynasty warriors 5 remastered, your friendly reminder
Dynasty warriors 5 > dynasty warriors 4
Y E S
No dw4 best all time
DW4 Destiny Mode! Over Dw5 because less Animu Husbando & waifu nonsense.
DW5 is my preference because it is more polished, but that's all I can say. Love the OST's from both games, but DW4 set the standard in my book.
Game was total garbage unfortunately. Hook hook get inside open kill boss done.
Dynasty Warriors games looks so... Gay nowadays. I loved the DW5. It was finally more like DW2 after 3 and 4 but better. DW6 was so bad that I haven't tried after that game any of these newer games. It was clear to see back then (DW6) the way officers dressed, the weapons etc they had was more like from the comic book universe than fantasy fiction about real history events. 15 years later: Enemy soldiers don't fight, you can't even call them zombies. More like sitting ducks. Officers run faster than horses, they fly on the battlefield when doing combat etc. After DW5 I wanted the series get a little more realistic and they went opposite direction. Nothing fancy. Just wanted them to replace weapons like what Guan Ping used, add a stamina meter maybe. You know like after some combos swinging weapon gets a little slower. After watching this video I can't believe how huge fan I was 20 years ago of this series. Now it looks... GAY.
a new dw game like dw4 or 5 will be blast , with expanded story and cutscenes like sw5 , we need manly guys back , more realistic scearios and make the game hard and soldiers pack a punch
I don't think gay is the word tbh 😂
@@melodiasrojas8428 The word fits perfectly with Dynasty Warriors game series after DW5
@@Meccaofmanhood not really but OK 😅
Time for a complete re haul of this franchise
Tired of mindless hack and slash
Make it more challenging please
Play dark souls