DW6 and 6 Empires are such my faves but that’s because it’s the first I got hooked on - 6 would have been a big change for long time fans tho I can see that
@@ChrisGildart, DW6 is the single the most UNIQUE Dynasty warriors game compared to others in the series. DW7 and DW8 is just an Improved CLONE of DW 4 and DW5. Sadly the majority fans dismiss it before it even reaches its maximum potential and leave no other choice to dev. but to disband it and even butchered it in DW6 empires. such a waste tho, But its just my opinion of course, since most fans clearly do not agree :(
Sam Hopkins, People hate Renbu System, but on the contrary I like the system, since it makes the battle much more dynamic especially in large battle. it also encourage not to skip ahead and more strategic. and it also has mechanic that I like such as arena type duel system, it looks so real and fun system not to mention kungfu like combo move like real life shaolin move. new unique weapon for almost character , unique expanded skill system for each character, etc. Damn I like DW6. too bad.
I don't think six failed entirely it took a lot of bad steps a lot of bad steps but six was not a complete failure I look back I actually enjoyed playing 6 I do not enjoy playing 9
I picked 9 back up recently because I've played 8xlce to death. It's... Grown on me. Might just be the isolation doing it, but hey. I feel like if they just heavily refined their ideas and really cleaned everything up, the new system could be pretty fun to work with. I mean... In the past 2 days alone I sunk a good 14 hours into this mess, so there's gotta be something redeemable here. (the map still sucks though. Please, please go back to stage maps. I don't care if they're also massive, but for the love of God make them unique.)
The fact that DW9 NEEDED updates, dlc, and patches to be even remotely playable is telling. Especially since 6 was playable from the start and never gave anyone reason to believe that Koei was lazy. While DW6 is nowhere near perfect it never gave DW fans a sense of true disappointment like 9 did.
Yeah but look at no man's sky. The game was a shit show at launch, and now it's one of the best online open world experiences out there. "Needing patches to get better" isn't a strong argument about the current state of the game. I'm sure if DW6 had patches too, it would've been much more fun, but unfortunately it didn't get the chance
I personally enjoy the Dynasty games as a "1 man against all" type deal so I never really liked the idea of bodyguards. Felt they got in the way/take kills that I'd prefer doing myself. Cause the idea of taking on an army of enemies by myself was more cool to me.
@@craigrobertson1629 Well in those games you could still do that. You had the option to have up to 8, so you could choose to have 0. Personally I LOVED having 8 Bowman bodyguards. They used to smash everything. Also it was fun to play the whole scenario trying to keep all 8 alive.
To me DW6 was great the only thing I didn’t like was the clone movesets they had for most characters and the Renbu system needed more polishing as well. However they made revolutionary changes such as for the first time you can swim, climb siege ladders etc. the soundtrack was amazing and siege battles felts like siege battles. Hu Lao Gate was the best in the series in 6. And Graphics was to me it was the best in series better than 7. 7 for some reason looked too dark. However character wise in 7 was more detailed than in 6.
I totally agree with you there, DW6 added a lot of good things to the formula despite the smaller character roster, clones and poor combat with the renbu system. The flow of the battle in 6 is pretty good (and in fact it was the last game of the franchaise in which you could actually lose and that wasn't completely scripted) also, as you said, the siege battles from 6 are without a doubt the best ones the series has to offer (honestly I was really disappointed when they dropped them out on DW7 and 8). At least for me the problem is that while DW6 felt like a genuine atempt to change the franchise DW9 just feels like a lazy game that mainly relies on following the Ubisoft style open world trend (which unfortunately doesn't resonate at all with the style this series is known for).
I agree, I wish they’d really experiment with their genre like they did with this game. So much of that game worked and given the time it came out in, it was pretty dope to me. The clone moves and stuff was definitely a weird one, but idk it added longevity to the game for sure because me and my brother had a blast unlocking new characters and seeing new stories, etc. I hope that they experiment with one piece Pirate Warriors 5 or 6 like they did with this but yknow learn from the past. These games can offer so much more than what they do now in every aspect. Modes, character mechanics, maps, etc. it’s just that they don’t do it.
There's only one thing that Tecmo Koei needs to have stapled to their collective ass when it comes to the Dynasty Warriors franchise: STOP MESSING AROUND WITH A CHARACTER'S UNIQUE WEAPONS! I don't care if they're not historically accurate! No one plays Dynasty Warriors for realism, AND THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW! Sun Ce: TONFA! TONFA! TONFA! Sun Ce swinging around a long-ass pike like so many other characters looks stupid and unnatural! Zhang He: CLAWS! CLAWS! CLAWS! He is the Vega of the Dynasty Warriors universe, and he should stay that way! Guan Ping: DON'T EVER TOUCH HIS BASTARD SWORD AGAIN! Huang Gai: GIVE HIM HIS LITTLE SAIL BOAT WEAPON BACK! It was funny and also fun to use! Xiahou Ba: I loved his giant motor drill thingy! He was literally Rocket Knight Adventures Reborn! I could go on, but you guys get the point. I hate clone-crap! That's what turned me off from DW6 and DW9. But what really gets me angry, is that Koei has made unique character move sets and weapons for each individual character in the past, so they really have no excuse to not implement them. I can only hope they wake up before Dynasty Warriors 10 comes out.
Zhang Bao: GIVE HIM BACK HIS FUCKING GAUNTLET SWORD Wang Yi: HOOPS?!! HOOOOOOOOOOOO- sais Dong Zhuo: BOMBS! THEY WERE FUN AND UNIQUE! I liked the fact you could control the explosions Li Dian: DONT. EVER. TOUCH. HIS. SPEAR. BEYBLADE. EVER AGAIN!!! Zhu Ran: FIRE ARROWS BITCH! Nuff said Zhong Hui: FLYING SWORDS!!!! they were so fun to use. They always shredded the everliving crap out of enemies Guo Huai: Okay I have a question... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TAKE AWAY THE LITERAL IMAGE OF GUO HUAI?!!!! BAZOOOKA!!!!
@@ChrisGildart yeah right? I still have my dw3 and 4 on my ps2 but my dw4 has some stages thar are slow on loading or stuck on loading I wonder why is that?
Could be that the disc is just degrading. CDs and DVDs from around that time have been rotting away. It may look like it's perfect, but some of the date is either lost or corrupted. I have the same thing happening with my Original Xbox copy of DW4. The first time it loads a stage it can take a while, but after that it's not too bad.
They tried to innovate with 6 by sticking to the same Musou formula while 9 feels like a game which belongs to a different genre. To me 6 is special since it's my first DW game. I used to listen to its OST every day.
Tbh, besides the Renbu system and the start of clones. I really liked dynasty warriors 6, the shift in aesthetic was refreshing and in my opinion has some of the best character designs!
And the resources went into the engine which allowed 7 and 8 to be things. 9 the resources basically went into proving that they had no idea what they were doing... (The open world was much better than expected... In that you can see it being good in a game or two. most games that jump on the open world thing ruin the game with it. 9 is instead ruined by pretty much everything Else they changed. The open world didn't live up to the hype, but it's not the ruination of the game, either.)
I think while they were making this game though the Voice Actor strike was happening here in the west so they couldn't get the VA they usually get. So that was due to bad timing unfortunately
I wish they remake DW6 and add more characters, maps, and no clone weapons. Bring back roll/avoid, parry/counter attack while blocking enemy attack, and duel when the allies and enemies made a circle and we duel with enemy officers in the middle of circle. Breaking camp's gate with our weapons is so good. And also we need to wait our allies to build a ram to breach the big gate it felt more realistic.we can also climb a ladder to destroy every ballistas on the gate so our allies can build ram and catapult easily It really has chance to be the one of the best DW series if they do it right
If I had to pick, I'd play DW6 over DW9 any day of the week. Far more action, less roaming with nothing to do or having to gather bullshit in my action based game. Sure by all means 6 was not the top of the line for the series as a whole, but it is far better than 9.
I started from Dynasty Warriors 3(US) until now, but I had the least fun with 6 and 9. I went back and played Dynasty Warriors 3 and 4 and I still love it!!!
Could be really awesome if this mode gets a full game. The protagonist is you. The kingdom story and characters become sideline because you get to choose which faction will win. You get to befriend different people and know faction story or character story that way. You can change historical outcome (ie hypotheticals). You can defect to other faction or create your own kingdom (like what Lu Bu does). Of course you can get intimate with your character of choice :)
That's almost like the Samurai Warriors Chronicle games. Though, they're not as open ended. It would be interesting to see a stand alone spin off like that.
I like the AI officers of DW6, they fight on horseback a bit then jump off to fight, then get back on to move to other place. This was on pc version, don't know about other versions
You missed one of the best points on DW6, the officer duels. The grunts would form a circle around you and the enemy officer for a 1 vs 1 duel. DW6E is also great for being the only DW game that enemy officers could be using the upgraded/crafted weapons, with the special abilities, against you. That made running into enemy officers a true threat. Just never allow Diao Chan or Lu Bu into your faction, they will betray you.
6 is better all around in my opinion. The PS2 version, which you used prior in comparison, of Shang Xiang and Yue Ying had different weapons and movesets. I think other than 4, DW6 might have had the best soundtrack of Dynasty Warriors. Also, saying graphics from one generation to the next on a console...I'll say that just isn't fair at all. Megaman 2's graphics are much worse than Megaman 7, 8, X5, X6, X7, and X8, but 2 was on the NES...it's not Megaman 2's fault that it was released on a system with much worse graphics...Instead, you should look at how well the game looked at the time of release compared to other games of its generation. For example, Chrono Trigger or Super Metroid had great graphics for its time, but there is no way those games can compare to graphics from this era.
They were. The reason 6 had the problems it did was mostly because a lot of the budget went into completely rebuilding the engine instead. 7 and 8 used that engine. And while they Could have gone in a completely different design direction, the design changes (partly facilitated by the new engine) were one of the best things about six, and to my recollection the main thing about it that got positive responses.
I really loved DW6, i had played a lot of DW2-5 so when DW6 came out and was a lot different in looks and weapons i first didn't like it but after some playtime it was very refreshing to me. The old school ps2 DW games are by far my favourite ones and i play them to this day deleting my old saves to max them out from scratch. Just from memory the character designs and maps from dw6 are my favourites out of any DW game which makes it very enjoyable to me. Also calling the horse and in some battles being 3 teams fighting at the same time was so good! DW9 while i'm in the progress of finising the few characters i have left to max it really doesn't bring much joy to me at all. Playing through some stories was mostly boring and i really didn't enjoy my time, also free mode 2p with my brothers was the absolute best and i hope if a DW10 comes it has free mode online. Your vids have helped me realize that i need to go back to DW7 and 8 as i played through DW7 Jin mode and the damn weird mode that replaced free mode and quit. For DW8 i just did Lu Bu's story mode and quit, also did some challenge modes to get rank 1 on leaderboards for a few characters. I want to thank you for the great videos and although i'm a huge DW6 fan i do respect your opnion and aknowledge many of your points, i just hope DW10 will have old school feel to it with a free mode online and i'll be so damn happy!
6 just felt less repetitive to me in terms of stages and story. 9 would have benefited from missions differing more between characters or way more cutscenes. If they don’t want to put more cutscenes in then just go back to a faction based story
Your taste of story sucks lol. While DW9 repeated reaction during the cutscenes suck, the 3D VN-like style of presentation, 3D JRPG style of storytelling is actually a nice idea. It's just unpolished, being the first DW entry to use this method. They had reference from RoTK series, but that's still not DW. Also please the babyface Liu Bei is perfect for the early part of the story (where DW6 focused on a lot.) While DW9, bcs of it's method of narrative and length of story, has to have 2 version of Liu Bei. ps.: and there's nothing you can do with Xu Shu only having 1 chapter. Bcs in the original novel, he only has that part. There's also a lack of historical reference for him, with his story being preserved mostly only on oral folklore originally (before then Luo Guanzhong collected with, spinned it off, and made the RoTK we know today.) He's not at Zhuge Liang's or the 5 Tiger Generals' level of revered, after all.
You forgot that DW6 have the best defensive option in the series. When you block, you have 4 option, either initiate a weak/strong throw or weak/strong counter. All of the strong options allowed you to break guard. Also, Dodge helps you cancel the animation and alot of DW6 tier tester like me used that shit ALL THE TIME in Master and Chaos difficulty.
6 is my favorite after 8 and got me into the series. The combat may have not been great but as far as style, music, design and all that stuff it’s the best to me.
I really enjoyed DW5, but DW4 and 8 are my favourites. I think the faction based stories are a great way to tell the history. I do prefer personalized hypotheticals though.
@@ChrisGildartmmm i understand 4 and 8 are the true dw experience, but because of that i'd only choose one of them, and second one would be dw7 empires. lets say 4xl and 7E
I enjoyed 6 because i actually had a army helping me and felt like i was making a difference in events / things to do, in 9 I'm on my own running around like a headless chicken with 0 people or events feels empty 6 is the winner for me
Dw6 was not really that good but i still loved it, i bought dw9 after release and played maybe 3 hours and uninstalled it its definetely the worst dw ever, even if they bring 2838473 old weapons and story dlcs out the whole system of the game is a big nogo
I was excited for DW6, then I played it :/ I was REALLY excited for DW9, then I played it :/. Going from 8-9 felt like one step forward, only to fall off a cliff.
Giving the graphics point to 9 really is baffling, 6 for it's time of release reached ridiculous feats of on-screen enemies, while still having a polished look and holding 60fps even in split-screen, 9 on the other hand made the PS4 and Xbox One cough and splutter from how poorly optimised it was while having a ridiculously muddy nasty look.
Wanna know the worst part with those "RPG cutscenes"? Liu Bei's reaction to Guan Yu's death is one of them. One of the most *MARKING* moments in *ENTIRE SHU STORY* is a *GODDAMN RPG CUTSCENE!!!*
@@miguelsantiago398 This is especially jarring when you consider that the previous games (even 6) treated this moment with the respect it deserves. We both remember the scene from 7, right? When goes all *NOOO* and cuts his own throne? That was heart-wrenching.
I can't remember which game it was, but it solidified Gian Yu as a badass for me. Dude died standing in the cutscene. People talk about Lu Bu being badass, but he died groveling. Guan yu died standing. It was an awesome cutscene. Might've actually been dw6.
@@kujiko88 I think it was DW8, and Lu Bu's historical ending actually had him died standing up as well (though this time it was more out of defiance than anything else).
FACT, I remembered grinding thru the story mode for hours in the ps2 version with different characters, and their unique moveset, weapon. The best bit of the game for me was the horse-collecting system tho. I did really enjoy collecting various type of horses, and also levelling up the horse into Red Hare or something.
For DW9, you forgot about skill points. You can "upgrade" you character with skill points. Every time you level, you get skill points to add to a specific state (Health, Power, Speed). You can also you Books of Musou to allocate skill points outside of leveling. With enough books, it is possible to have all maxed out stats at level 1. Combat for DW9, you completely ignore the reaction queues this game gives. The "Y" appearing over enemy heads are triggers for reactions: charging in, countering, and executing. The orbs you have equipped on your character can also enhance counters or cause an effect affect the counter. Example: I can have an orb that increases damage from countering, or another other that gives the enemy poison status when countering. I understand that there's "no character progression" beyond leveling and skills for DW9. The person who actually progresses is the player and the characters. Unlike in DW6, in DW9: players retain all gold, housing, weapons, materials, ammo, mounts, pets, scrolls, etc. regardless what character they are on. Those orbs you equipped on a weapon you used for Lu Bu on your last play-through and be used on Yu Jin. Honestly, thank goodness they did this. Imagine trying to put all of the progression onto the characters alone and you go to another character and you have to start all over again. It would be aggravating. Imagine keeping map exploration progress limited to characters and not to the player. There's go all of your fast travel options to get needed materials quickly.
Also skill points are the only way you can level up your speed stat. So he even got that bit wrong... plus pretty sure skill points are a part of the tutorial, so I can't imagine he didn't learn about it. A lot of the points going to 6 feels like he only did it because he didn't pay attention to his progress in 9.
combat in 6 get boring fast but the game outside of that is pretty good and I remember when it came out I actually liked the graphics. Also 2 small things you could do in that game but not in 5... swim and call your horse. AMAZINGINGLY simple things that are hard to livewithout
I don't get that most of the times when Koei thinks: let's do something new! They throw out 10+ years of gameplay experience and 10 freaking years of learnings on the Empires games. Instead they throw in something broken as fuck that nobody asked for and struggle to get a game past beta stage. SW, Orochi, Kessen, Empires, Tactics, Strikeforce. Use all these spin offs and experiments and build onto the base game with them. Combine interactive story, branching paths, war councils from Kessen 2 with army building, governing and strategy from Empires/Tactics, character switching from WO/SW4, what ifs and actual boss fights from Strikeforce/XL (and your competitor Sengoku Basara) and add onto the charge system with stuff like the running charge, grabs, guardbreaks, dodge moves, different charge builds from SW to make a DW game that dominates the genre again.
Seriously DW6 was sooo good and i thought it was a great direction for the series. The only down side was that very few characters had their own unique move sets and they removed the weapon upgrade system.
DW9 is just too lifeless for me. DW6 may have had Renbu and removed characters and movesets, but it still had heart. And DW9 removed movesets after DW8 had so many weapons.
Nice vid! 9 has def grown on me a lot, I honestly think it has a lot of potential...(of course not perfect hence all the added patches lol) but the potential to build on it is infinite...DW6 is like 🤷🏽♂️ I barely remember it, but by you showing it in this video it really brings me back 😂😂😂😂 wow the franchise has come a long way from being a 1v1 game to now if you think about it 🤔 but thank you for this 💪🏽 hit some great points brotha !! 💪🏽
Dynasty warriors 4 duels. Some ease of life features from the latest ones. Graphic boost. All this into 5 and that's the winner. Regardless Dynasty warriors 5 is my favourite.
I think the next iteration of DW should not only, as they have said, go back to stage by stage but keep the levels bigger and more objective base. Implement a posture like combat system. Something akin to sekiro but mainly for bosses, bring back duels, get rid of grapnel hooks, get rid of triangle finisher attacks (or at least make it available when their health is basically 0), give wei yan his dw4-5 move set because I loved it ( or at least let my man's spin on his back) and make lu bu a real threat again. I can tell you, the last time I was afraid of this man was dw 4. If they can do that I'd be happy. I also think DWs open world would be better for empires IMO. Like every battle is like an enclosed area and by leaving the barrier, you withdrawal your troops if it's not going well. But when you're not in battle or a wondering soldier, you can ride around the map recruiting soldiers, getting supplies, moving homes, helping villages, hunting, pursuing relationships,etc. Lastly, a cool feature would be bringing Dw5 betrayals back and capture/rescue missions. For example let's say you're in battle and a great officer is captured in battle, you can send an elite team to go and rescue them under a time limit or vice versa, so you have to sneak into the castle and prison and save them and escape. And with betrayals you can send and officer to another kingdom to act as a mole and deceive the other kingdom and set up ambushes, that'd be dope. They'll never do it but one can dream lol. Awesome video btw!
For me it's easy. DW6 has split-screen multiplayer. I passed all it's failures (Even the Renbu, even the Challenge) by playing with my elder brother when I was younger, and still had a good time with some hate. BUT DW9... I can play Musou games by myself, but, it is not that good without it. And I play DW since 3, didn't played all but played all majors before 9 (3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8), also their Empire modes. I was very hyped for 9, BUT, when I heard NO MULTIPLAYER, that broke everything to me, so... yeah... haven't even touched 9. (But guess what I bought? SW 5, and loved it) It looks pretty tought.
DW6 is more or less my childhood played soo many hours as a kid with my older brother and sisters. We even maxed all characters 2 times over because we lost our first save because our memory card broke. We played blind so we didn’t know how to exactly unlock Lu bu and were excited both times when we unlocked him. 9 is just whack. Love the level design of 6 newer games the level design is not so great. OW2/3 is the only games we all agree that the maps are pretty good. 3 and 6 are our top games just because of nostalgia
Man this is one I had to stop on fasho dw 3 when they allowed you to come in with as many bodyguards between 8 once u got there and the challenges to earn top weapons. Shit... almost made the game endless. Cant even put it all on here but honestly Dynasty warriors 3 was one of the solid ones. Dynasty warriors 4 was swell to.
Every time i had to sit through a button mashing conversation in DW9 it really made me miss the well crafted cut scenes in DW7. Hope that gets brought back in the 10th game.
interesting videos, i’ve been enjoying them! i think your description of the weapon types in 6 was a little off though- they weren’t weight based like in 5, they were Standard, Power, and Skill. Standard increased Range with your renbu meter, power increased your damage as it went up, and Skill increased attack speed, with each class having a different range of power values. it’s *similar* to the weight classes but without the Heavy weapon speed loss from DW5 or the flat damage loss from light weapons. I find myself with a soft spot for 6 even with its flaws, and have yet to play 9 myself. I’m just now looking into it which brought me to this video! Keep up the good stuff!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the videos! I do remember Power giving you a higher attack at the cost of attack speed. It's similar to the weighting system of DW5, but instead of only effecting attack speed it also effected attack power. I think I described it this way in my Pros vs. Cons review of DW6.
@@ChrisGildart you DID actually i watched that one right after i posted this HDKDJDKSK. seriously though these are so much fun to watch! :) as someone who has also been playing since the launch day of the PS2 and DW2, this series really does mean a lot to me so seeing videos like this is so fun
I would love a DW 10 with: - DW 9 Combat System, - DW 6 Character Story, - Better Map (or a better Open World) - DW 8 Weapon System & Weapon list - Fuse between DW6, DW8, DW9 Character Outfit - Better AI - DW 5 Destiny Mode - Weapon change mechanics i know that we wont get all of what we like, but I'm here just wondering and hoping..
I preferred 8's combat system, but i think implementing a Warriors Orochi 4 Magic system would be pretty cool too. It did make the game overly easy, but with some balances it could be quite fair and an expansion to the typical combat system in a much more organic DW fashion in my opinion. I hope they can capture the essence of DW4/DW3 while simultaneously doing something new and great.
Some of the designs from DW6 are still my favorite to this day. Zhang Fei, Zhuge Liang, Huang Zhong, Pang Tong, Xu Zhu, Cao Cao, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He, Zhenji, Cao Pi, Huang Gai, Sun Ce, Xiaoqiao, Sima Yi, Yuan Shao, Meng Huo.
DW9 Never really got my attention like 6 did back in the day back then I had watched gameplay as well before making my decision I think 9 just doesn't feel like Dynasty Warriors at the end of it all I just want them to make another Dynasty Warriors like 5 Xtream Legends
6 allowed you to sneak attack enemies sending them into shock cowering in fear even officers and using speacil abilities allowed better exp when enemies are caught in shock 6 is completly underminded in its application bring back the game with 9's open world and combat and their is no denying
I HATE the fact of a lot of characters dont have Story Mode in 6 In 5 everyone have they only cg and story lines, but in 6 they dont only remove a lot of characters, they remove a lot of story modes Xiao Qiao is unique character who dont have story mode? Really? I think 9 have a good point in story because EVERYONE is playable and have they ending and cutscenes In 6 Zhen Ji and Xiao Qiao didnt appear in one cg Really, Cao Pi and Zhou Yu have Story mode and they wifes dont appear only one time???? Man i hate that so MUCH
DW6 was the first game on my ps3. While I got disappointed by the amount of content it has, especially after how massive dw5 was, a lot of graphical and technical gameplay improvement were pretty cool back then. Not to mention it has a certain looks that made it so nostalgic now
I dislike DW9 the reasons: The Open World feels empty and is poorly optimized (volumetric shadows killed my fps to 10) The English Voice actors sounded like they either die of Boredom or are just done with their life Weapons from the Older games got sold as DLC's No Unique Story for each char like in the other games
I disappointed about DW6 but I like that attitude "Open this fxxking door or I'll smash it." And man... the siege to the wall... DW9 has no spirit such like that. I agree DW6 attack system is shit.
I've never seen a Dynasty warriors video posted in 2020.... LETS GOOO (btw, DW6 is better in my opinion. Costumes, voice acting, and the story is better than DW9. But throughout the whole DW series, 6 and 8 are my favorite)
DW4XL. Best AI. Shit after WO1 was either "you had someone who could abuse percentage elemental damage procs/some other high damage modifiers or they would straight die from lazy-programmed high-stat death sticks on max difficulty".
I seriously don't understand what the problem is with 6. I've played 3,4,5,6 and 7 and 6 is my favourite. In fact I've recently started playing it again and still enjoy it.
@@charleslauricella156 When they released 6: Empires and the renbu was attached to your weapon, that was perfection. So much fun to play. Sun Shang Xiang with max renbu that never falls off was an absolute delight.
Am I the only one who enjoyed dynasty warriors 6?
def not. I really enjoyed DW6 Empires especially.
Dw6 was my fav.
@@stell.2849 I loved playing Zhuge Liang because his fire rally was so good at destroying camps,
Nope cause im a dynasty warriors 6 empires gamer too
DW6 and 6 Empires are such my faves but that’s because it’s the first I got hooked on - 6 would have been a big change for long time fans tho I can see that
Dynasty Warriors 6 is the game that got me turned on to the Warriors series. Another man's trash is another man's treasure I suppose.
Hey, if you're able to enjoy it, all the power to ya! I know I may not enjoy it, but that doesn't mean no one can.
@@ChrisGildart, DW6 is the single the most UNIQUE Dynasty warriors game compared to others in the series. DW7 and DW8 is just an Improved CLONE of DW 4 and DW5.
Sadly the majority fans dismiss it before it even reaches its maximum potential and leave no other choice to dev. but to disband it and even butchered it in DW6 empires.
such a waste tho,
But its just my opinion of course, since most fans clearly do not agree :(
Sam Hopkins, People hate Renbu System, but on the contrary I like the system, since it makes the battle much more dynamic especially in large battle. it also encourage not to skip ahead and more strategic.
and it also has mechanic that I like such as arena type duel system, it looks so real and fun system not to mention kungfu like combo move like real life shaolin move. new unique weapon for almost character , unique expanded skill system for each character, etc.
Damn I like DW6. too bad.
AMEN
Felt that. I always loved 6 because it was my introduction
the two major installments that tried something new but failed to do everything right , can't wait to see this
I don't think six failed entirely it took a lot of bad steps a lot of bad steps but six was not a complete failure I look back I actually enjoyed playing 6 I do not enjoy playing 9
I picked 9 back up recently because I've played 8xlce to death.
It's... Grown on me. Might just be the isolation doing it, but hey.
I feel like if they just heavily refined their ideas and really cleaned everything up, the new system could be pretty fun to work with. I mean... In the past 2 days alone I sunk a good 14 hours into this mess, so there's gotta be something redeemable here.
(the map still sucks though. Please, please go back to stage maps. I don't care if they're also massive, but for the love of God make them unique.)
I actually liked the fighting style of 6. It's encouraging me to not mess up all the time
@@dremcgee-mallet2833 If I remember correctly ironically the fixes and little revisions they made in the game was given solely to the ps2 version
@@rdu239 you right
The fact that DW9 NEEDED updates, dlc, and patches to be even remotely playable is telling. Especially since 6 was playable from the start and never gave anyone reason to believe that Koei was lazy. While DW6 is nowhere near perfect it never gave DW fans a sense of true disappointment like 9 did.
They cut put mutiple characters and did a shit story in 6
@@ktg464 Yet the game still worked. Again didn't need patches or DLC to be complete like dogshit DW9
@@ktg464 Also if the story is shit in 6 then all DW stories are shit because it's the same fucking story. Who knew?
Yeah but look at no man's sky. The game was a shit show at launch, and now it's one of the best online open world experiences out there. "Needing patches to get better" isn't a strong argument about the current state of the game. I'm sure if DW6 had patches too, it would've been much more fun, but unfortunately it didn't get the chance
@@iliarsl we not talking about no mans sky
Bruh u know what I miss a lot? Havin bodyguards follow u around and they would level up with you from peons to captains.
Having all 8 elite bodyguards attack lu bu at Hu lou Gate.
Ahhhh the PS2 days
@@InvisibleBiscuit The ps2 days my G, the ps2 days👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I personally enjoy the Dynasty games as a "1 man against all" type deal so I never really liked the idea of bodyguards. Felt they got in the way/take kills that I'd prefer doing myself. Cause the idea of taking on an army of enemies by myself was more cool to me.
@@craigrobertson1629 Well in those games you could still do that. You had the option to have up to 8, so you could choose to have 0. Personally I LOVED having 8 Bowman bodyguards. They used to smash everything. Also it was fun to play the whole scenario trying to keep all 8 alive.
DW6 low-key got the best zhao yun aesthetically...
i still like DW9 more i guess because DW6 fell short because their story is so short.
To me DW6 was great the only thing I didn’t like was the clone movesets they had for most characters and the Renbu system needed more polishing as well. However they made revolutionary changes such as for the first time you can swim, climb siege ladders etc. the soundtrack was amazing and siege battles felts like siege battles. Hu Lao Gate was the best in the series in 6. And Graphics was to me it was the best in series better than 7. 7 for some reason looked too dark. However character wise in 7 was more detailed than in 6.
I totally agree with you there, DW6 added a lot of good things to the formula despite the smaller character roster, clones and poor combat with the renbu system.
The flow of the battle in 6 is pretty good (and in fact it was the last game of the franchaise in which you could actually lose and that wasn't completely scripted) also, as you said, the siege battles from 6 are without a doubt the best ones the series has to offer (honestly I was really disappointed when they dropped them out on DW7 and 8).
At least for me the problem is that while DW6 felt like a genuine atempt to change the franchise DW9 just feels like a lazy game that mainly relies on following the Ubisoft style open world trend (which unfortunately doesn't resonate at all with the style this series is known for).
Immoral Flame yeah bro you right about that. Koei was definitely trying to make 6 different.
I agree, I wish they’d really experiment with their genre like they did with this game. So much of that game worked and given the time it came out in, it was pretty dope to me. The clone moves and stuff was definitely a weird one, but idk it added longevity to the game for sure because me and my brother had a blast unlocking new characters and seeing new stories, etc. I hope that they experiment with one piece Pirate Warriors 5 or 6 like they did with this but yknow learn from the past. These games can offer so much more than what they do now in every aspect. Modes, character mechanics, maps, etc. it’s just that they don’t do it.
@@dyllanrodriguez2828 koei dropping the ball. Getting lazy
Also siege battles in Dynasty Warriors 6 actually felt like sieges not just you using a catapult to destroy a gate.
There's only one thing that Tecmo Koei needs to have stapled to their collective ass when it comes to the Dynasty Warriors franchise:
STOP MESSING AROUND WITH A CHARACTER'S UNIQUE WEAPONS!
I don't care if they're not historically accurate! No one plays Dynasty Warriors for realism, AND THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW!
Sun Ce: TONFA! TONFA! TONFA! Sun Ce swinging around a long-ass pike like so many other characters looks stupid and unnatural!
Zhang He: CLAWS! CLAWS! CLAWS! He is the Vega of the Dynasty Warriors universe, and he should stay that way!
Guan Ping: DON'T EVER TOUCH HIS BASTARD SWORD AGAIN!
Huang Gai: GIVE HIM HIS LITTLE SAIL BOAT WEAPON BACK! It was funny and also fun to use!
Xiahou Ba: I loved his giant motor drill thingy! He was literally Rocket Knight Adventures Reborn!
I could go on, but you guys get the point. I hate clone-crap! That's what turned me off from DW6 and DW9. But what really gets me angry, is that Koei has made unique character move sets and weapons for each individual character in the past, so they really have no excuse to not implement them. I can only hope they wake up before Dynasty Warriors 10 comes out.
Zhang Bao: GIVE HIM BACK HIS FUCKING GAUNTLET SWORD
Wang Yi: HOOPS?!! HOOOOOOOOOOOO- sais
Dong Zhuo: BOMBS! THEY WERE FUN AND UNIQUE! I liked the fact you could control the explosions
Li Dian: DONT. EVER. TOUCH. HIS. SPEAR. BEYBLADE. EVER AGAIN!!!
Zhu Ran: FIRE ARROWS BITCH! Nuff said
Zhong Hui: FLYING SWORDS!!!! they were so fun to use. They always shredded the everliving crap out of enemies
Guo Huai: Okay I have a question... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TAKE AWAY THE LITERAL IMAGE OF GUO HUAI?!!!!
BAZOOOKA!!!!
I still remember the dw3 days when in hard mode, you don't want to mess with the bows and crossbows
Even on normal they could be annoying in DW2-4. I found in DW5 they started to become more tolerable.
@@ChrisGildart yeah right? I still have my dw3 and 4 on my ps2 but my dw4 has some stages thar are slow on loading or stuck on loading I wonder why is that?
Could be that the disc is just degrading. CDs and DVDs from around that time have been rotting away. It may look like it's perfect, but some of the date is either lost or corrupted. I have the same thing happening with my Original Xbox copy of DW4. The first time it loads a stage it can take a while, but after that it's not too bad.
@@ChrisGildart also I have some issue on my ps2 ver of DW6. Some cutscenes are slow on loading that I can't complete some character's musuou mode
DW 6 had the best siege concept in the fracnhise. It actually felt like you are sieging a castle
Dynasty warriors 6 was the first one i played as a kid i realise why everyone hates it but out of pure bias and nostalgia i love it unconditionally
Same
Same here, especially when i play with my cousin's in 2p mode
6 was my introduction to the franchise so I have a bit of a soft spot for it but you bring up interesting points! Excellent video!
They tried to innovate with 6 by sticking to the same Musou formula while 9 feels like a game which belongs to a different genre. To me 6 is special since it's my first DW game. I used to listen to its OST every day.
6's OST is top tier.
Tbh, besides the Renbu system and the start of clones. I really liked dynasty warriors 6, the shift in aesthetic was refreshing and in my opinion has some of the best character designs!
The designs are definitely on point. Live the costumes and stages in DW6 a lot.
I used to hate DW6 but then DW9 came out.
DW6 may have cut characters, but at least the English dub didn't suck.
And the resources went into the engine which allowed 7 and 8 to be things.
9 the resources basically went into proving that they had no idea what they were doing...
(The open world was much better than expected... In that you can see it being good in a game or two. most games that jump on the open world thing ruin the game with it. 9 is instead ruined by pretty much everything Else they changed. The open world didn't live up to the hype, but it's not the ruination of the game, either.)
I think while they were making this game though the Voice Actor strike was happening here in the west so they couldn't get the VA they usually get. So that was due to bad timing unfortunately
I hope they do away with open world in DW10 and give everyone their own unique move set
i feel like dw6 was held back by coming out between two different generations. They had to make a game that would come out for ps2, 3, and xbox 360.
Dynasty Warriors 9 is garbage. 6 is way better.
Yup agreed
Wrong
Yeah 6 felt more alive
Someone own shit PC and saying shits 😆🤣😂
Dynasty Warriors 6 so professional and has great graphics
I wish they remake DW6 and add more characters, maps, and no clone weapons. Bring back roll/avoid, parry/counter attack while blocking enemy attack, and duel when the allies and enemies made a circle and we duel with enemy officers in the middle of circle. Breaking camp's gate with our weapons is so good. And also we need to wait our allies to build a ram to breach the big gate it felt more realistic.we can also climb a ladder to destroy every ballistas on the gate so our allies can build ram and catapult easily
It really has chance to be the one of the best DW series if they do it right
If I had to pick, I'd play DW6 over DW9 any day of the week. Far more action, less roaming with nothing to do or having to gather bullshit in my action based game. Sure by all means 6 was not the top of the line for the series as a whole, but it is far better than 9.
9 was utter garbage.
I started from Dynasty Warriors 3(US) until now, but I had the least fun with 6 and 9.
I went back and played Dynasty Warriors 3 and 4 and I still love it!!!
I have both dw3 and 4 on my ps2
Aaron Gallardo me too! :)
Am i the only one that miss destiny mode from dynasty warriors XL 5? That mode reeeally need to come back
Yeah that mode was awesome I want it back
Could be really awesome if this mode gets a full game. The protagonist is you. The kingdom story and characters become sideline because you get to choose which faction will win. You get to befriend different people and know faction story or character story that way. You can change historical outcome (ie hypotheticals). You can defect to other faction or create your own kingdom (like what Lu Bu does). Of course you can get intimate with your character of choice :)
That's almost like the Samurai Warriors Chronicle games. Though, they're not as open ended. It would be interesting to see a stand alone spin off like that.
I actually love DW6 characters model like it is the most anime Dynasty warrior ever, also it is my first DW so..
The design of DW6 was absolutely on point! Just disappointed the gameplay couldn't be as well.
I love DW6. It’s a great game.
You forgot the biggest points for DW6...... the fact that it had Welcome to China and the Two Heroes (seriously go listen to those songs!)
This ^^. Matter of fact, DW6 has one of the best soundtracks in the series.
I like the AI officers of DW6, they fight on horseback a bit then jump off to fight, then get back on to move to other place. This was on pc version, don't know about other versions
You missed one of the best points on DW6, the officer duels. The grunts would form a circle around you and the enemy officer for a 1 vs 1 duel.
DW6E is also great for being the only DW game that enemy officers could be using the upgraded/crafted weapons, with the special abilities, against you. That made running into enemy officers a true threat. Just never allow Diao Chan or Lu Bu into your faction, they will betray you.
Loved this video Chris, i'm happy i found a channel that goes in depth into Koei's Warrior games.
Dynasty warriors 6 is better than 9
agreed dynasty warrior 9 was rubbish game
@@kaitoyuuki6158 Dynasty Warriors 9 was just too god damn clunky. I played a demo of it and I never liked it then and now
I loved dw6. dude im a massive zhao yun fanboy and his costume on dw6 was the best design ever. his and lu bu's dw6 costumes were the best
The character and stage design of DW6 was spectacular. I don't think there's a single character design I didn't like.
Love the 6 for change if pace. 9 however...
3 and 4 will always be my fav
Classics 👌
6 is better all around in my opinion. The PS2 version, which you used prior in comparison, of Shang Xiang and Yue Ying had different weapons and movesets. I think other than 4, DW6 might have had the best soundtrack of Dynasty Warriors. Also, saying graphics from one generation to the next on a console...I'll say that just isn't fair at all. Megaman 2's graphics are much worse than Megaman 7, 8, X5, X6, X7, and X8, but 2 was on the NES...it's not Megaman 2's fault that it was released on a system with much worse graphics...Instead, you should look at how well the game looked at the time of release compared to other games of its generation. For example, Chrono Trigger or Super Metroid had great graphics for its time, but there is no way those games can compare to graphics from this era.
Agree, dw6 have many memorable bgm
I love the 3 army free for all from dw6 even though it was rarely used. The maps that feature it are my favorite
Dynasty Warriors 69
My wife made this joke several times while I was working on this video. lol
@@ChrisGildart Ah a woman of culture!
She is a keeper
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dw6 feels like a reboot for dw series because 7-8 feels like based on 6 for the design
They were. The reason 6 had the problems it did was mostly because a lot of the budget went into completely rebuilding the engine instead. 7 and 8 used that engine. And while they Could have gone in a completely different design direction, the design changes (partly facilitated by the new engine) were one of the best things about six, and to my recollection the main thing about it that got positive responses.
I really loved DW6, i had played a lot of DW2-5 so when DW6 came out and was a lot different in looks and weapons i first didn't like it but after some playtime it was very refreshing to me. The old school ps2 DW games are by far my favourite ones and i play them to this day deleting my old saves to max them out from scratch. Just from memory the character designs and maps from dw6 are my favourites out of any DW game which makes it very enjoyable to me. Also calling the horse and in some battles being 3 teams fighting at the same time was so good! DW9 while i'm in the progress of finising the few characters i have left to max it really doesn't bring much joy to me at all. Playing through some stories was mostly boring and i really didn't enjoy my time, also free mode 2p with my brothers was the absolute best and i hope if a DW10 comes it has free mode online. Your vids have helped me realize that i need to go back to DW7 and 8 as i played through DW7 Jin mode and the damn weird mode that replaced free mode and quit. For DW8 i just did Lu Bu's story mode and quit, also did some challenge modes to get rank 1 on leaderboards for a few characters. I want to thank you for the great videos and although i'm a huge DW6 fan i do respect your opnion and aknowledge many of your points, i just hope DW10 will have old school feel to it with a free mode online and i'll be so damn happy!
6 just felt less repetitive to me in terms of stages and story. 9 would have benefited from missions differing more between characters or way more cutscenes. If they don’t want to put more cutscenes in then just go back to a faction based story
Your taste of story sucks lol. While DW9 repeated reaction during the cutscenes suck, the 3D VN-like style of presentation, 3D JRPG style of storytelling is actually a nice idea. It's just unpolished, being the first DW entry to use this method. They had reference from RoTK series, but that's still not DW.
Also please the babyface Liu Bei is perfect for the early part of the story (where DW6 focused on a lot.) While DW9, bcs of it's method of narrative and length of story, has to have 2 version of Liu Bei.
ps.: and there's nothing you can do with Xu Shu only having 1 chapter. Bcs in the original novel, he only has that part. There's also a lack of historical reference for him, with his story being preserved mostly only on oral folklore originally (before then Luo Guanzhong collected with, spinned it off, and made the RoTK we know today.) He's not at Zhuge Liang's or the 5 Tiger Generals' level of revered, after all.
You forgot that DW6 have the best defensive option in the series. When you block, you have 4 option, either initiate a weak/strong throw or weak/strong counter. All of the strong options allowed you to break guard. Also, Dodge helps you cancel the animation and alot of DW6 tier tester like me used that shit ALL THE TIME in Master and Chaos difficulty.
The throwing/counter system in 6 was actually fun to master. I remember getting some deaths on chaos because I used to mindlessly mash square.
Gotta need it when you fight the Mighty Lu Bu at Hu Lao Gate to get the 1000exp😀
6 is my favorite after 8 and got me into the series. The combat may have not been great but as far as style, music, design and all that stuff it’s the best to me.
Personally 5 is my favorite. I just like having the personalized stories and the stages.
I really enjoyed DW5, but DW4 and 8 are my favourites. I think the faction based stories are a great way to tell the history. I do prefer personalized hypotheticals though.
@@ChrisGildartmmm i understand 4 and 8 are the true dw experience, but because of that i'd only choose one of them, and second one would be dw7 empires. lets say 4xl and 7E
I enjoyed 6 because i actually had a army helping me and felt like i was making a difference in events / things to do, in 9 I'm on my own running around like a headless chicken with 0 people or events feels empty 6 is the winner for me
Yeah 6 Ally NPC is the best in the series just because they actually useful
Dw6 was not really that good but i still loved it, i bought dw9 after release and played maybe 3 hours and uninstalled it its definetely the worst dw ever, even if they bring 2838473 old weapons and story dlcs out the whole system of the game is a big nogo
The biggest Travesty in 6 is Zhou Yu losing his Sword for a Staff. I miss his Sword Attack set.
Yes! He was my favorite since DW2. The moveset was elegant and cool. I also miss shooting orbs that explode.
Exactly. His design was ruined as well. He went from a dynamic badass but elegant swordsman to a "beautiful dancer" character stereotype.
We call it his stripper pole lul
I was excited for DW6, then I played it :/
I was REALLY excited for DW9, then I played it :/. Going from 8-9 felt like one step forward, only to fall off a cliff.
DW9 is a Joke compared to DW6..
i feel like the whole unique movesets thing should have gone to 6. Being paid DLC should have discounted 9
I don't care, I still love Dynasty Warriors 9.
Same here
It makes me blind, I don't know why.
Dynasty warriors 6 this game I will play with my child when I marry a women 😊.
Both DW6 & 9 have great characters designs. Probably best, but it’s just not fun to play
Righteous, that was a nitpick I had about 6 tbh. That and there only being a chosen few warriors with story modes.
Giving the graphics point to 9 really is baffling, 6 for it's time of release reached ridiculous feats of on-screen enemies, while still having a polished look and holding 60fps even in split-screen, 9 on the other hand made the PS4 and Xbox One cough and splutter from how poorly optimised it was while having a ridiculously muddy nasty look.
Wanna know the worst part with those "RPG cutscenes"? Liu Bei's reaction to Guan Yu's death is one of them.
One of the most *MARKING* moments in *ENTIRE SHU STORY* is a *GODDAMN RPG CUTSCENE!!!*
I think that was THE marking moment of Shu. Everything literally went downhill from there, totally agree with you.
@@miguelsantiago398 This is especially jarring when you consider that the previous games (even 6) treated this moment with the respect it deserves.
We both remember the scene from 7, right? When goes all *NOOO* and cuts his own throne? That was heart-wrenching.
I can't remember which game it was, but it solidified Gian Yu as a badass for me.
Dude died standing in the cutscene.
People talk about Lu Bu being badass, but he died groveling. Guan yu died standing. It was an awesome cutscene. Might've actually been dw6.
@@kujiko88 I think it was DW8, and Lu Bu's historical ending actually had him died standing up as well (though this time it was more out of defiance than anything else).
@@kujiko88 3 had him standing but dropping his weapon while 8 had him standing with weapon in hand and closing his eyes in the SHU story
Dynasty warriors 6 is unironically the best Dynasty Warriors game
Dynasty warriors 6 is so underrated man 😞
FACT, I remembered grinding thru the story mode for hours in the ps2 version with different characters, and their unique moveset, weapon. The best bit of the game for me was the horse-collecting system tho. I did really enjoy collecting various type of horses, and also levelling up the horse into Red Hare or something.
For DW9, you forgot about skill points. You can "upgrade" you character with skill points. Every time you level, you get skill points to add to a specific state (Health, Power, Speed). You can also you Books of Musou to allocate skill points outside of leveling. With enough books, it is possible to have all maxed out stats at level 1.
Combat for DW9, you completely ignore the reaction queues this game gives. The "Y" appearing over enemy heads are triggers for reactions: charging in, countering, and executing. The orbs you have equipped on your character can also enhance counters or cause an effect affect the counter. Example: I can have an orb that increases damage from countering, or another other that gives the enemy poison status when countering.
I understand that there's "no character progression" beyond leveling and skills for DW9. The person who actually progresses is the player and the characters. Unlike in DW6, in DW9: players retain all gold, housing, weapons, materials, ammo, mounts, pets, scrolls, etc. regardless what character they are on. Those orbs you equipped on a weapon you used for Lu Bu on your last play-through and be used on Yu Jin. Honestly, thank goodness they did this. Imagine trying to put all of the progression onto the characters alone and you go to another character and you have to start all over again. It would be aggravating. Imagine keeping map exploration progress limited to characters and not to the player. There's go all of your fast travel options to get needed materials quickly.
Also skill points are the only way you can level up your speed stat. So he even got that bit wrong... plus pretty sure skill points are a part of the tutorial, so I can't imagine he didn't learn about it.
A lot of the points going to 6 feels like he only did it because he didn't pay attention to his progress in 9.
combat in 6 get boring fast but the game outside of that is pretty good and I remember when it came out I actually liked the graphics. Also 2 small things you could do in that game but not in 5... swim and call your horse. AMAZINGINGLY simple things that are hard to livewithout
I don't know why I didn't mention those during the video. Maybe because it's just become second nature now. Especially calling your horse.
I don't like cutscene in DW 9, i hope DW 10 has more cs with epic animation
6 has always been a guilty pleasure of mine. Empires was so good, and I exceptionally love Strikeforce still.
I don't get that most of the times when Koei thinks: let's do something new! They throw out 10+ years of gameplay experience and 10 freaking years of learnings on the Empires games. Instead they throw in something broken as fuck that nobody asked for and struggle to get a game past beta stage. SW, Orochi, Kessen, Empires, Tactics, Strikeforce. Use all these spin offs and experiments and build onto the base game with them.
Combine interactive story, branching paths, war councils from Kessen 2 with army building, governing and strategy from Empires/Tactics, character switching from WO/SW4, what ifs and actual boss fights from Strikeforce/XL (and your competitor Sengoku Basara) and add onto the charge system with stuff like the running charge, grabs, guardbreaks, dodge moves, different charge builds from SW to make a DW game that dominates the genre again.
DW6 Empires is actually one of my favorites , They even had counter attacks after you perform a block
For me DW6 and 8 is the best. 6 is just addicting.
6 is basicly new type of hack and slash than previous DW series but gone and change to normal again but with improved like new special move.
Seriously DW6 was sooo good and i thought it was a great direction for the series. The only down side was that very few characters had their own unique move sets and they removed the weapon upgrade system.
6 was like a drug. I maxed out EVERY single character during the year it released.
DW9 is just too lifeless for me. DW6 may have had Renbu and removed characters and movesets, but it still had heart. And DW9 removed movesets after DW8 had so many weapons.
Nice vid! 9 has def grown on me a lot, I honestly think it has a lot of potential...(of course not perfect hence all the added patches lol) but the potential to build on it is infinite...DW6 is like 🤷🏽♂️ I barely remember it, but by you showing it in this video it really brings me back 😂😂😂😂 wow the franchise has come a long way from being a 1v1 game to now if you think about it 🤔 but thank you for this 💪🏽 hit some great points brotha !! 💪🏽
Also you used the coffee and tea line 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽😂 I dug that lol
Glad you enjoyed the video. I always like sneaking some jokes into my scripts.
This comparison seemed useless when he said "if you just pay for all the move sets then it becomes more unique. i have to give the point to DW9"
For real
Dynasty warriors 4 duels. Some ease of life features from the latest ones. Graphic boost. All this into 5 and that's the winner. Regardless Dynasty warriors 5 is my favourite.
I really wish they went back to focusing on giving each character a unique moveset/weapons. It increased replay ability by sooooo much.
I think the next iteration of DW should not only, as they have said, go back to stage by stage but keep the levels bigger and more objective base. Implement a posture like combat system. Something akin to sekiro but mainly for bosses, bring back duels, get rid of grapnel hooks, get rid of triangle finisher attacks (or at least make it available when their health is basically 0), give wei yan his dw4-5 move set because I loved it ( or at least let my man's spin on his back) and make lu bu a real threat again. I can tell you, the last time I was afraid of this man was dw 4. If they can do that I'd be happy.
I also think DWs open world would be better for empires IMO. Like every battle is like an enclosed area and by leaving the barrier, you withdrawal your troops if it's not going well. But when you're not in battle or a wondering soldier, you can ride around the map recruiting soldiers, getting supplies, moving homes, helping villages, hunting, pursuing relationships,etc.
Lastly, a cool feature would be bringing Dw5 betrayals back and capture/rescue missions. For example let's say you're in battle and a great officer is captured in battle, you can send an elite team to go and rescue them under a time limit or vice versa, so you have to sneak into the castle and prison and save them and escape. And with betrayals you can send and officer to another kingdom to act as a mole and deceive the other kingdom and set up ambushes, that'd be dope. They'll never do it but one can dream lol.
Awesome video btw!
For me it's easy.
DW6 has split-screen multiplayer.
I passed all it's failures (Even the Renbu, even the Challenge) by playing with my elder brother when I was younger, and still had a good time with some hate.
BUT DW9...
I can play Musou games by myself, but, it is not that good without it.
And I play DW since 3, didn't played all but played all majors before 9 (3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8), also their Empire modes.
I was very hyped for 9, BUT, when I heard NO MULTIPLAYER, that broke everything to me, so... yeah... haven't even touched 9. (But guess what I bought? SW 5, and loved it)
It looks pretty tought.
DW6 is more or less my childhood played soo many hours as a kid with my older brother and sisters. We even maxed all characters 2 times over because we lost our first save because our memory card broke. We played blind so we didn’t know how to exactly unlock Lu bu and were excited both times when we unlocked him. 9 is just whack. Love the level design of 6 newer games the level design is not so great. OW2/3 is the only games we all agree that the maps are pretty good. 3 and 6 are our top games just because of nostalgia
Dynasty warriors 6 did my man guan ping dirty
I'm a Dynasty Warriors 2 Vet. Been playing all of the games up to 9. Dynasty Warriors 3 was a game changer for me.
Man this is one I had to stop on fasho dw 3 when they allowed you to come in with as many bodyguards between 8 once u got there and the challenges to earn top weapons. Shit... almost made the game endless. Cant even put it all on here but honestly Dynasty warriors 3 was one of the solid ones. Dynasty warriors 4 was swell to.
It’s 9, I really like 6. I like 9 but meh idk man 6 is awesome in its own right
I play 6 on ps2 back in a day and it way better than 9
Every time i had to sit through a button mashing conversation in DW9 it really made me miss the well crafted cut scenes in DW7. Hope that gets brought back in the 10th game.
6 is fine to me, for me real dynasty warriors basically ended at 6
Who cares about renbu when you can guard cancel your normal attacks and use grabs. Dw9 feels more braindead
interesting videos, i’ve been enjoying them! i think your description of the weapon types in 6 was a little off though- they weren’t weight based like in 5, they were Standard, Power, and Skill. Standard increased Range with your renbu meter, power increased your damage as it went up, and Skill increased attack speed, with each class having a different range of power values. it’s *similar* to the weight classes but without the Heavy weapon speed loss from DW5 or the flat damage loss from light weapons. I find myself with a soft spot for 6 even with its flaws, and have yet to play 9 myself. I’m just now looking into it which brought me to this video! Keep up the good stuff!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the videos! I do remember Power giving you a higher attack at the cost of attack speed. It's similar to the weighting system of DW5, but instead of only effecting attack speed it also effected attack power. I think I described it this way in my Pros vs. Cons review of DW6.
@@ChrisGildart you DID actually i watched that one right after i posted this HDKDJDKSK. seriously though these are so much fun to watch! :) as someone who has also been playing since the launch day of the PS2 and DW2, this series really does mean a lot to me so seeing videos like this is so fun
@@a.t.rivera7460 Glad you enjoy the videos! :D
I would love a DW 10 with:
- DW 9 Combat System,
- DW 6 Character Story,
- Better Map (or a better Open World)
- DW 8 Weapon System & Weapon list
- Fuse between DW6, DW8, DW9 Character Outfit
- Better AI
- DW 5 Destiny Mode
- Weapon change mechanics
i know that we wont get all of what we like, but I'm here just wondering and hoping..
I preferred 8's combat system, but i think implementing a Warriors Orochi 4 Magic system would be pretty cool too. It did make the game overly easy, but with some balances it could be quite fair and an expansion to the typical combat system in a much more organic DW fashion in my opinion.
I hope they can capture the essence of DW4/DW3 while simultaneously doing something new and great.
This was a really well done video! I can clearly see how much you care for the series, even at these two lower points. New sub!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Some of the designs from DW6 are still my favorite to this day.
Zhang Fei, Zhuge Liang, Huang Zhong, Pang Tong, Xu Zhu, Cao Cao, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He, Zhenji, Cao Pi, Huang Gai, Sun Ce, Xiaoqiao, Sima Yi, Yuan Shao, Meng Huo.
lu bu too??
@@Zoollaaa I prefer it over his DW7 & 8 designs. I do really like the gold on his DW9 design though. That one is my favorite for him.
DW9 Never really got my attention like 6 did back in the day
back then I had watched gameplay as well before making my decision
I think 9 just doesn't feel like Dynasty Warriors at the end of it all
I just want them to make another Dynasty Warriors like 5 Xtream Legends
Dynasty Warriors 6 weapons are the worst.
Nah hate 9 can't play it to boring. Glad I didn't waste any money on it
I love Dynasty Warriors 6. Sorry fan boys.
6 allowed you to sneak attack enemies sending them into shock cowering in fear even officers and using speacil abilities allowed better exp when enemies are caught in shock 6 is completly underminded in its application bring back the game with 9's open world and combat and their is no denying
They should've kept open world away from dynasty warriors
I HATE the fact of a lot of characters dont have Story Mode in 6
In 5 everyone have they only cg and story lines, but in 6 they dont only remove a lot of characters, they remove a lot of story modes
Xiao Qiao is unique character who dont have story mode? Really?
I think 9 have a good point in story because EVERYONE is playable and have they ending and cutscenes
In 6 Zhen Ji and Xiao Qiao didnt appear in one cg
Really, Cao Pi and Zhou Yu have Story mode and they wifes dont appear only one time????
Man i hate that so MUCH
DW6 was the first game on my ps3. While I got disappointed by the amount of content it has, especially after how massive dw5 was, a lot of graphical and technical gameplay improvement were pretty cool back then. Not to mention it has a certain looks that made it so nostalgic now
If DW6 back then was the latest DW game back then, I would have went back to playing 5. 6 is a mediocre embarrassment to the franchise!
I dislike DW9 the reasons:
The Open World feels empty and is poorly optimized (volumetric shadows killed my fps to 10)
The English Voice actors sounded like they either die of Boredom or are just done with their life
Weapons from the Older games got sold as DLC's
No Unique Story for each char like in the other games
THIS..!!
especially if you played the very first version of the game..
I disappointed about DW6 but I like that attitude "Open this fxxking door or I'll smash it." And man... the siege to the wall... DW9 has no spirit such like that. I agree DW6 attack system is shit.
I've never seen a Dynasty warriors video posted in 2020.... LETS GOOO
(btw, DW6 is better in my opinion. Costumes, voice acting, and the story is better than DW9. But throughout the whole DW series, 6 and 8 are my favorite)
23:33 I mean what gives, Koei? Samurai Warriors got an anime, so why not Dynasty Warriors?
Great Job bro,You are best reviewer just about gameplay very detail
DW4XL. Best AI.
Shit after WO1 was either "you had someone who could abuse percentage elemental damage procs/some other high damage modifiers or they would straight die from lazy-programmed high-stat death sticks on max difficulty".
And this is the comparison I've always wanted
Nice pronounciation on the Chinese names bro. Well from what I can tell anyway.
Thanks! I always try to improve my pronunciations of foreign names.
I didn’t think there could be a Dynasty Warriors game worse than 6.. DW9 proved me wrong.
DW6 wining
I seriously don't understand what the problem is with 6. I've played 3,4,5,6 and 7 and 6 is my favourite. In fact I've recently started playing it again and still enjoy it.
Same here. For most people i think they just dont like the renbu system, but i liked it after getting used to it.
@@charleslauricella156 When they released 6: Empires and the renbu was attached to your weapon, that was perfection. So much fun to play. Sun Shang Xiang with max renbu that never falls off was an absolute delight.