7 Things Pro Photographers Do That You Probably Don’t
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- I enjoy some landscape photography in the North York Moors with @Firstmanphotography and share some valuable beginner photography tips 👍🏻
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Thanks for a cracking day out mate, one of the best I've had for ages. Looking forward to the next one.
Same mate it was class👍🏻
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I quiet like that you two go shooting together in almost bright daylight and do not wait for just for the sunset.
Adam's advice reminds me of something I've always held onto as a creative professional: when charging a client, either charge a high rate or work for free, but never charge a cheap rate.
Charging a high rate demonstrates that you value your work and the effort you put into it. Working for free can be acceptable in certain situations, such as when you're building a portfolio or helping someone out. However, never work for a low rate. Doing so suggests that you don't value yourself, your work, or your time-and your client will perceive it the same way. Being cheaper than the next person is not a strategy for success.
As an artist myself, I have to say that Adam is spot on. It can be very tempting to do work for free because you feel like you're "getting yourself out there" or something similar, but he's exactly right in that you'll get the reputation of being the artist that works for free and that if you don't value your work more than that, no one else will either. And Henry, excellent video as always! I feel like I'm good in composition, but I always feel like I can get better, and my post skills are sadly lacking. Seeing and hearing your advice on these things is so helpful. Cheers!
Thanks mate, yeah Adam’s tip was brilliant and I’m so glad he chose something like that, I don’t address those sorts of things enough
In an age of digital photography, where anyone and everyone has a camera, photography as an art has been devalued.
For over a decade one of my "reliable" jobs was doing photography for a local business, part of a small chain. Everytime they came out with new brochures or advertising material they would give me a call. The same for their annual calendar. I also produced prints to adorn the walls of their various branches. My fees for each job were well established. I would submit my photos and receive a check in a week or two. A couple of years ago, after doing this for over a decade, I submitted my photos for the annual calendar, and after a month, no check. Finally, I called my contact person at the main office and was told they had a "few changes" in the office. Evidently, they no longer felt it "was in the company's best interest" to pay for photographs. Of course I reminded them that we had a longstanding agreement. They agreed to cut me a check, but ever since, whenever they need photos for advertising or calanders, they hold a "contest" among their employees to submit photos. The "winner" gets the "honor" of having their image(s) used on the material and a $20.00 Visa gift card!
Any darktable fans out there for their post-processing?
yes!
Yes me too👍
Interesting!! Thanks for sharing this 🙏
Me too.
Yep!
Adam @Firstmanphotography is a great lad! Had the pleasure of him joining me for some wildlife shooting (sadly not too successful a while back!) great to see you two together enjoying some shooting, some great points - totally agree about looking for images before you get the camera out, as a wildlife photographer my binoculars are key for scoping areas before I get all the gear out the bag and set up and so many dive in, before thinking about where they should be positioned best! Great stuff, Cheers, Tom
Thanks mate, yeah Adam is so class it was a pleasure to head out with him! Good point regarding the binoculars, nice way of thinking about it actually
just starting to get into the realm of birds and nature and your point about taking a pair of bins out is a great idea, thanks!
First heather image was fabulous!
I've been into the hobby since 2019, give or take and I feel like I'm just now hitting that aha moment, where things fall into place.
Also I like to sometimes shoot portrait and landscape both at the same location. I might think one is better than another at the location and completely flip my opinion once I get back home.
BTW Henry I just have to say this: Old film guy and ecstatic champion of digital today, I CAN NOT agree more! Love my Zed 7, the 24-70 Zed and F mount and that pure GEM the 14-30! I adore my D850's as well as I miss my F3's and FM2's. That's in the past and I certainly don't miss the chemicals and hours in the darkroom. The banner for this video is you holding your Zed 7 and I just thought, "Yeah I love my Zed 7 too!"
Thank you very much Henry and also to your mate Adam. I totally agree with you guys. Greetings going out.
That heather! That scenery! And what you manage to get out of it. WOW! Just.....wow.
It is nice to hear that I'm not the only one who experiences that "I think I've got something" thought whilst on site but is secretly terrified something was wrong that I missed!
That was a great video Henry and Adams tip was i believe directed at a different audience. this was very enlightening of how professional photographers consider their own work. I love the fact that your content was focused on us who are still early in our learning journey. thanks again
Thanks again, Henry, for some very helpful insight. I think adaptability is key for travel photography. I am currently on a one month road trip touring Scotland (my first time here) and as I’m from Western Canada, I have to deal with whatever Mother Nature decides to throw at me while I’m in an area, because there is so much I want to see during our time here. I have purchased your Scotland guide and am hoping to go to several of your recommended sights. We drove to Southerness lighthouse on Tuesday in what seemed like monsoon conditions, so my photos look much different than your lovely image. I managed to brace myself for a few images and will always cherish the experience, regardless of the conditions. I try to do my best with what is given, so have definitely found being adaptable to things out of one’s control is paramount when travelling. Perhaps the weather will be less dramatic as I move to other sights you’ve recommended, but I will relish and enjoy the experience no matter what! Thanks again!! Absolutely loving Scotland!!!
I've enjoyed very much, seeing your work Henry and Adam, and I will say bravo and keep working. That last is entirely unnecessary to say as I know you will keep working, you can't stop! Remember one thing, ALWAYS hold your innocence most dear, and cherish the JOYFUL in the discovery of something beautiful and magical in every moment that you observe this grand world around us. Beyond anything I said about valuing your work, the REAL payment for what we do, are those moments in which we are fortunate to capture a piece of that magic which surrounds us. We KNOW IT, that moment when we press the button and silently exclaim, "That's it, YES I got it!" That in and of itself is value enough.
Excellent tips, including that from Adam. I try to do my best work *and* value it. I'm a lifelong artist and have never discounted my work. A gift to a friend, yes, but a "bargain"? No.
Great to see you and Adam together Henry. Thank you for sharing.
You know I was up at Roseberry topping last Sunday and was waiting for the sunset, but had to head back early. I'm going to head back if the weather improves as the combination of a sunset and the heather would look lovely!
Always like the tip videos like this Henry, the 2 things i have taken from this, are 1, i do not take as much attention to light as i should, and 2. How i value myself, i never really had the confidence to put my work into the domain of the seller, but after years of people saying to me that i should sell my work i took the step into that world, on the value side it was not the price etc, but it the value that complete strangers put on my images, to think that they look at my images and want to buy them and value it enough to want to hang it in there house, that to me in my eyes is the true value of my work and what i put into it
Thanks a lot mate! Yes Adam’s tip was fantastic, I was so glad he shared it!
Affinity Photo seems to be very popular in place of Adobe’s efforts
Sir, as a low grade 'snapper' there are a couple of things I recall related to simple technique. Firstly I prefer to shoot from the shade, rather than a sunlit spot, it seems to produce nicer photos and the camera seems to work better. Secondly, there was a time when allowing lots of light in through the viewfinder would affect the camera calculations making the photo less reliable, there may even have been bits of plastic or rubber for blanking off the viewfinder e.g. for timer pictures. Obviously waving the camera around in the air away from your face reintroduces the potential for that error. Do metering systems on modern SLR cameras still suffer from that trait? [Spent a few years with a piece of black tape on the camera bottom for when it was needed.] I feel a professional grade series of trials may help nail these potential fallacies.
Adams advice is some of the best for PRO photographers. Today so many think that pro's just do it for the fun. It has ruined many a good wedding photographer
Agreed 👍🏻👍🏻
The best thing about photography ( as per other pastimes or profession) is discovering information and learning about your subject matter yourself - best thing from our hobby!
If Internet Video Blogs via CZcams was available back in early 80s - I would not have listened. Because, apart of wonderful things about photography is not only the end result (acquiring beautiful images) it’s the journey that is equally important with all the mistakes you learn from along the path!
Basically, as the old adage goes: ‘The best way to learn about the subject matter is by making your own mistakes and not from other peoples or tips & tricks!’
Saying that …. you have an excellent video!
You have a well respected name; ‘Turner’ - any relation to the great man; ‘Father of Impressionism’ in art? 😜
Roseberry Topping, a good friend of mine lives in the shadow of it in Great Ayton and can see it from his attic conversion window. I’m yet to venture up there but it’s on my bucket list when next visiting him. Lovely images Henry and some great advice. I personally don’t use PS yet as an amateur, I’m still trying to hone my skills so therefore only shoot in JPEG. I can certainly appreciate what PS does to maximise one’s RAW images but I’m probably a year or two away from taking my photography to that level, having said that I am excited at the thought of doing so going forward, I’m just concentrating on getting to a good enough standard to warrant it at the moment.
At point 3, that u-shaped rock ledge that was to your left(at around the 5:30 mark), I would have loved to have had that opportunity to try staging the camera inside that u, angled out from parallel to the inside of the ledge to make it look like you were shooting out from inside a cave…
Great to see the 2 of you teaming up again. Ironically sitting watching your video with a composition set up here in Paris and just waiting for the light to hopefully do it's magic 🙂
Fantastic, fingers crossed for your light!!!
RAW is a must I'll give you that- I'm a Wedding/Portrait Photographer and always shoot in RAW
A little late, but I loved your neighborhood. When I visited the UK, I got a pic of a cute ice cream truck also. It brought back memories of my great trip. 😊
That’s amazing!!
Nice to see you in my back garden.
That was so cool getting the rider in that last photo!
Such wonderful images, and what a beautiful location. Love the last image, and also the one at 6:42!
Awesome video! I adore seeing you and Adam together in a video! Thank you for all the great information 😀😀😀
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for another interesting vlog Henry and some very useful tips and reminders! Enjoy your bank holiday weekend!
Thanks a lot, you too!!
Henry and Adam, I'll speak to that last point which Adam made about valuing what you do as creators/artists/photographers. I come from a family of artists. My grandmother was a not insignificant painter and early pioneer of Abstract Expressionism and a member of that group which included, Mark Rothko & Barnett Newman (family friends and uncle Mark & uncle Barney to my father and me) and my father was well placed and respected in mid-century photography and my mentor, along with his friends Minor White and Aaron Siskind. All that being said, I certainly do not claim that I am some great photographer. I only ever hope when I go out, to capture a good or fine image now and then. To the point made about value, and this is important as it's not always something we naturally do when placing a value on our content if we are honest and humble in how we value ourselves. If we're in this to just do the work for our own pleasure, we often under-value what we do. Recently I opened a new exhibit of some new work in the past year: some 30 images in infra-red B&W and one or two in color IR. When asked by a friend and painter somewhat older and wiser than I, what I would price one of my photographs, I said, "Well that one I was thinking 700 to 900." To which she replied, "You've been doing this for 50 years now, and NO that photograph alone should start at 1700 to 2000 without question. You have to value all the work and experience and application of your craft over time when you consider what your work is worth." She has dedicated her life to creating art, teaching and mentoring younger artists and her opinion carries quite a lot of weight, so at this latter stage of my life I've come to the realization that I need to VALUE what I do, a little more highly and give the work I create the respect it deserves. Given that as far back as the mid to late 1970's I was fortunate to capture some images of very fine quality in the beginning of my career, I have to say she is entirely correct in saying I perhaps undervalue my work today.
Big thank you Henry for helping me "see"
If there’s one thing that distinguishes a professional from an amateur, I’d say it was keystoning. And that applies to video as well as photography, across all genres. Nothing else matters if you don’t do that.
Affinity Photo is worth mentioning
EDIT: Not free. But still a good deal. 😊
Hi Henry, a particularly grand day out in God's County ... so I'm particularly grateful for you sharing. Not 25 miles from where I used to live as the crow flies ... at the southern end of the NYMR. No surpise to me that you got some belters there.
Loved it there mate, will definitely come back!
Beautiful scenery Henry and as always excellent tips to adapt to my photography 😍
Thanks John!
Great list. I'm mentoring a beginner photographer and will be forwarding this video to her.
Also, As one who does a lot of cycling photography, I like that you included the cyclist in the sunset photo.
Thanks! Ah yes they made a great subject!!
Henry,
Just acquisition gear question
Am thinking about buying a peak design camera clip, however I always use an L bracket with my camera
Is the clip comparable with the L bracket
(Will it fit?)
Great channel, watching to means I can unsubscribe to numerous other
Another corking video Henry....Adam is a top chap too and always enjoy his vids! you make a great team for photography enjoyment and advice!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great tips there Henry! And you’re nearly at 80k subs! That’s grown well fast! Congrats
Ah thanks mate and cheers yeah, it’s yous lot that make all this work so thanks a lot haha
@@HenryTurnerphoto nah thank you for the inspiration and the tips. I’m very much an amateur but I would like to take it further if I can
Beautiful pics he.nry, in regards to tip 4, my night photography teacher is always drilling the point of, start with the end in mind, think of what you want the I to look like, and reverse engineer from that.
Can I add an extra tip, don't beat yourself up when it goes wrong, tell yourself, you can't change the past and challenges are for growing.
I shoot in raw and jpeg for my night photography, but jpeg for every day stuff. Thanks for all the tips.
Also unrelated issue, I emailed you about some old lake district pics,
Love the extra tip! Oh I’m not sure I received that email, it may have fallen in my spam, I will have another check 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing your great tips Henry... enjoyed the location with great pics & interesting comments... also a hi to Adam... cheers from Australia 🦘🦘😊
Thanks 👍
Thanks for another fine set of tips Henry. 😊
My pleasure!
Henry
Quick gear question, am thinking of getting a Peak design camera clip but always use my camera with an L bracket, is the clip comparable with an L bracket?
(Will it fit)
Great channel mate, watching you means I can unsubscribe to numerous othets
I agree, I don't know how to value my work. I don't charge enough to cover my time taking photos then days of editing post photography.
Great tips and two of my favorite photographers!
Great to hear!
Nice vid, thanks. Advocating for DarkTable for Postprocessing of raw files. Also very capable in terms of data and metadata management
good to see you over this neck of the woods henry ,,, the northeast ,,, you will have to get your bot up northumberland,s interior as well as the coast ,,nice vid mind
Yes I’ll be back mate, really loved it!
Brilliant and in my part of the world! Wish I had known!
I watch you and Adam!!😎👍
Hi from the Rock of Gibraltar 🇬🇮
Hi there! Thanks for dropping a comment 😊👍🏻
Great tips and an interesting one from Adam.
Like the sunstar over Roseberry Topping.
Affinity Photo is the software i use, just a one off payment think around £50 or so and no monthly subscriptions.
Thanks mate, and yes that is extremely reasonable isn’t it?
Thanks for your help.
How many miles are you walking to get these shots ?
Just a quick question. What equipment are you using to vlog this and how do you manage to swivel around you and capture the views so smoothly? If you don't mind me asking.
Hi mate, I use the DJI Pocket 3 👍🏻
JPEGs, oooh, I don't know now.......Coming from my Nikon DSLR, then yep RAW, I agree............but I just literally picked up a cheap X-T2 with 18-55 on the basis that I can easily sell it on again and I wanted to dip my toe in the Fuji waters after seeing Andy Mumfords work...........I've only had a few minutes with it in the garden so not had the time to do any raw shooting but I'm amazed how much the jpegs can be edited, much more than my old Nikon 810, don't know if that's normal but surprised me.
I sold all my Nikon gear last year and went completely to Fuji. (X-T5). I think in the last year or so I’ve shot, maybe, 10 images in raw total. I’ve moved almost exclusively to jpegs with no regrets. I guess I committed two cardinal sins….not only moving to JPEGs but also leaving full frame for apsc. I guess I won’t be on the raw full frame fanboy’s Xmas card list anymore 😂🤷🏼♂️
@@davidpearson3304 I'll be honest, I'm baffled. I did some more testing last night and compared the X-T2 and my Nikon at everything from base iso to 6400 and did some test prints, now I've only an A4 size printer in fairness, but, I couldn't see much difference even in the 6400 comparison, shouldn't be possible surely. If an old X-T2 can manage that, I can only imagine what the X-T5 can produce. I've liked the traditional dials on top too, everything just feels and nice and solid, I'm getting increasingly tempted to ditch FF.
@@rickbaines8262X-T2 is a legendary camera in Fuji world.
Loved the video. Good tips for all levels. But, I have a question. Why are you both carrying 2 tripods? Can’t think of why. Appreciate your input. Thanks.
Thanks! One is sometimes necessary for the video
Henry
Quick gear question,
I am thinking of getting a Peak design camera clip, I always use an L bracket with my camera,
Is a clip compatable with an L bracket?
(Will it fit?)
Great channel mate watching you means I can unsubscribe to numerous other s
Hi mate no the PD clip takes it's own plate. but you could put the PD plate at the bottom of your l bracket if that makes sense, so can be done.
Very good points. Well done
Glad you enjoyed it
Pro tips 👍
Great tips.
Glad it was helpful!
👍📷😎
ART is a fork of Rawtherapee that fixes most of it's issues. Might be worth checking out if you want to get into post processing without lending Adobe your soul :)
Got a kick on one your sayings.
"I would never...
...generally speaking".
That was all in the same sentence when you talked about using jpeg and raw. 😂
Kind of an oxymoron. 😅
True haha! I tend to dislike being to conclusive with that I say because I always think everyone is so different
Dont drop that camera !
You making your living from landscape photography?
That tent and plastic bottles is so damn unnecessary, what's wrong with these morons. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyable and that shot of the leading rock line and heather with a slightly soft focus feel to it, was awesome, epitomising late Summer. In PP do you sometimes use a softening tool in your landscapes Henry, I have sometimes, but you need to be so careful with the intensity.
Thanks for watching mate :). I usually just reduce clarity slightly 👍🏻👍🏻
I only shoot JPEG. That works great for me. 😂😂😂
Fair play mate!! 👍🏻
I never shot Raw in 12 years of photography because i dont need it , the only "processing" i do is put a bit of contrast and if necessary very very slightly boost my exposure, like a quarter of a stop at most, if that , if you expose correctly to begin with there is no need to shoot raw, why waste up valuable space when Jpegs are jusr as good if you know how to shoot correctly from the start? Raw is just a relic of the past, in my opinion
Because if you expose correctly your dynamic range is limited. You lose details in the highlights. I almost always underexpose a bit my photos and then bring the shadows up in the post.
@nonamninom9344 you can bring back details just as good with jpegs , believe I tried it, I shot Raw plus jpeg edited both and got the exact same results 😅
And I also use the under expose method
The idea is that Raw is useless if you get your settings right, Raw is just a crutch in my opinion...
@@resco91 It is not the same.
@@resco91 try it for yourself. You will see the difference. Take 2 shoots. One in jpeg property exposed, and one raw, slightly underexposed. Then select the subject and bring the shadows up for the subject.
Lol ridiculous
JPEG’s all over exposed; also if you always shoot in raw why was the camera set to JPEG?
17:37 f/18? To get the foreground and the background focus? Bloody cyclists everywhere aha
Yes! 👍🏻
a portrait is a type of photo, a landscape is a type of photo. They are NOT orientations ffs.
MAKE MONEY. 😂
Hope you paid the cyclist 🙂
Haha yeah I wish I could find him