The Enigma That Was Narasimha Rao
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- Union Minister Jairam Ramesh, writer Madhav Godbole and writer Vinay Satpati discuss how big a role Prime Minister Narasimha Rao played in the events in the early 90s.
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Shri P.V. Narshiaraoji was the most intelligent and Architect of Modern and Financially Strong India. Salute to such a great leader.
one southern leader became pm for full term and India saw a great change.. India needs the same one now
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At 14.20 Jairam Ramesh said PVN does not have any opposition within and outside the party
At 19.56 he again said PVN does not have support from Congress and other outside parties...
A congress party leader disowning his own party's PM, This shows PVN has done something right for the nation...
PVN was a great PM but history forgets him because he was not a puppet of GANDHI'S...
Well said, most of the congressmen hate PV because at some point he stopped being a stooge of the italian lady.
He was great..unfortunately deliberately tried to be forgotten
He was an Indira supporter but not the Italian lady....
Did you even hear jr Ramesh. On the first occasion he's talking about the liberalisation and on the second occasion he's talking about the babri demolition. Please refer to the context. You may agree or disagree but please don't misquote.
Puppets of the sonia
PV Narsimha Rao Sahab must be awarded "Bharat Ratna" for his contributions to the nation....
The honesty of PV is well articulated in his own writings and speakings. We don't need evaluation from sycophants. He knew what he was guilty of. He had no qualms. why should a true statesman or a patriot be fair to a dynastic party? Is that democratic?
We respect him and be grateful for what he did.
and many thanks to Vinay Sitapati for being factually elaborate and apparently unbiased
My remarks as a layman. The fruits of the economic reforms unleashed by Sri P V Narasimha Rao and Dr. Manmohan Singh are being enjoyed by us and by the country at large for ages to come. Their contribution is exceptional. In all earnestness,the least that the country could do -despite Babri Masjid demolition (which is a complex issue for which PVN aline cannot be held responsible )- is to award Bharat Ratna to each of them. Surely,when Vajpayee got the award, these people truly deserve it more. Let every right thnkin
Thinking countryman ponder
He got it conferred today
These guys are paid artists of Italian Moran , PV is intellectual gaint and we respect him for what he did for the nation
Srikanth A very honest & dispassionate assessment about the great
National leader ...He had the political will to implement timely various action
Particularly liberalisation of trade.including foreign one. He started weeding
out corrupt politicians..including his party men. They all took revenge collectively
on this great person. stooped to the worst level of barbaric manner even in His death.
RS Raman Mumbai
What the heck charisma got to do with being a PM? If Indians expect that they are wrong. He was a failure as CM of AP & on many such posts. But as PM he excelled & the world was impressed by his performance. Again the Indian public are stupid, I'd say. You don't use a gold vessel of pot as a cooking vessel or for hauling water from a well. It is meant to be for auspicious occasions, to impress people & hold flowers. I'd say even now Indians could understand him or why he did what. Only they are there to reap the benefits. They conveniently forget the days when they had to wait for 5 years for a mere telephone connection, book for a scooter for another 5 years & no foreign cars on the road as of now.
There was nothing in any of the congress leaders as long as any Gandhi was powerful in party,fortunately Gandhi’s were non existent at that time otherwise we still had Punjab crisis,our economy would have like Somalia and a lot ....best PM ever has produced (real first non-congress govt).
Sir point to be noted is he was the first cm to have introduced a law for the welfare of poor and against the rich including himself ie;land ceiling act in which his own land has been seized and hence was not favoured by the well off communities in AP. Hence Indira Gandhi replaced him. All he cared for is not his personal reputation but our country and country needs PM like him to let us taste the bitter pill for a better tomorrow. Without considering the majority consensus any privileged for the minority population can any time amount to appeasement.
Raji R d
U moron he is not failur of CM, he brought many reforms during united AP
P V NARASIHMA RAO WAS A GREAT PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA AND HE IS FATHER OF ECONOMIC REFORMS IN INDIA. SALUTE TO HIM.
Jai ram Ramesh is also afraid of Mrs Gandhi like any other Congress men to come and give the credit for the man.
We people credit him, who cares dead Congress party now.
I even today remember SRI. P.V. NARASIMHA RAO!! It's my every day activity.
Do congressmen discuss the PMs of the Nehru- Gandhi dynasty this objectively ?
An absolute true collosal personifies true potray of politician p.v.narasimha rao
sai vamsi krishna reddy - Very true
Excellent presentation. Panellist Vinay Sitapathi is excellent analysis. Godbole an excellent Bureaucrat & Ramesh an eloquent Congressman. When we see in retrospect the tenure of Dr Manmohan Singh the same pressure from Sonia Gandhi as the Extra Constitutional was exerted like a family Mafia of Sicilian tradition. Due to Narasimha Rao Economic Orientation due to IMF directives & Finance Minister Dr Manmohan Singh most congressmen who benefited from the Licence Raj opposed him result he was isolated in the congress & humiliated even when he died. Narendra Modi of BJP in his tenure as PM changed the cotree of MSE & Traders and small retailers of Vachpai & Advani Industry & Technology was given Focus. It started with Defence Services using upgrades as a Tool to leverage the Barganing chip to set up shop in India by TOT with partnering with the Indian Corporate & Govt PSUs complimenting beach other and let Contemprory Technology perculate later and subsequently organise Agricultural products as support services in Defence & upgrade skills in employment. Nathan Sekhar Sydney, Australia.
All the bad things were said about him though the world changed on his head after u .s.s.r broken down into 16 countries. He was right man to lead the country among all the leaders available .
This is better than Netflix - superb debate. Kudos to all involved
Sitapati's book clearly puts the facts and demonstrates the greatness of PV. It also highlights his shortcoming but gives out how well the man knew of that and worked around it.
All the panelists are there for bashing of PVN .. there Should be other party may be swami who can put real figure
Rather I still categorize India's growth story in the following way: (1) that is post independence and up to PVN and (2) after PVN .
the middle one is really a scholar to be panelist or a mouthpiece of Sonia?
Here they were saying reforms taken by P V Narasimha were of late Rajiv Gandhis's (which he couldn't do when in office and the person who lead the country to such a devastating crisis) and all the credit must be given to late Rajiv Gandhi for the success of the reforms taken by P V Narasimha Rao..And portraying him for the babri demolition..
Its clear that these congress people are demonizing his Charisma...
PV deserves a Bharat Ratna. We all know MMS is incapable man with MNREGA. Nobody trusts these idiots like Jairam, Mani and the worse of the breed Chiddu
Sri PV... Is a great leader... No dought.... Whether Cong party recognised or not... But entire world was accepted
Therefore he is not giving credit to PV Narasimha Rao
Don't try to reduce his stature at every juncture and see Congress high command family as Demi god's
What a time has come the dogs are barking about an ALL TIME GREAT Mr.PVN..Long live Mr.PVN & RIP..
Its simple my dear bureaucrats! your competency is of no value when you fail to convince your boss about what is in the best of the interest of the nation. You fail to convince and act so you fail.
Santhosh Rajan
May be that's exactly why he resigned after babari fall.
I Salute to Mr rao for his intellectual, good governance & reforms what he delivered to the nation. Hats of u sir, u will be there in history and our current leaders should respect him by adding his biography in curriculum to know by today's young generation.
These "CHAMCHAAS" have no right evaluating the great PVR! Shame on Congress Party
The political management of that is the most important aspect as Rao was not in a great majority.
what's important for us to understand from this session is how complicated the world of politics and governance is. the machinations outweigh the simplicities with which we tend to interpret our politics especially in current times. jairam ramesh rightly pointed out that we should avoid the hagiographic or simply lambasting approach while dealing with a public figure and need to adopt a more objective and rational mean while contemplating about anyone and life in general.
See me.seetapathi,why the 4prime ministers could not they implement the blueprint,why only Sri Narasimha Rao only implement ed reforms?.that is his capability.
See Mr. Rao got to know Mrs. Gandhi and her intentions towards India so he wanted to keep her away from politics... Wish he was succeeded fully... Anyway may his soul rest in peace
Jairam Ramesh🤛
the day Jairam scored some crucial Brownie points from Sonia towards the end
Shri P V Narshimha Rao, Was Underrated and Unsung hero, He never wanted to take the Credit as Great leader. All the good work was Overpower by Congress Gandhi's Monopoly politics, Now Congress has no visibility for the near future.
In the entire Congress and Congress supported regimes the best PM was the shortlived sShastri Ji and the second Best was PVN. These rascals could not stomach his rising to fame, and killed his oldage and also after death... And Charisma is purely in Deeds of a person unless of course you are lookin for a cocktail/bed partner.
The main point to be noted is that when 20 tonnes of gold reserves of India was mortgaged and the Indian economy had totally deteriorated, it was Mr. Rao who brought about revolutionary changes in the Indian economy and today we are eating the fruits of it. In my opinion, he is the most successful PM that our country has witnessed. Further, he was responsible for eradication of terrorism in Punjab. However, those who did not like to see him as PM tried to make corruptioncharges against him. If he were to be PM for one more term our country would have been another heaven. However, Mr. A.B.Vajapayi, who was a great friend of Mr.Rao walked on Rao's path and succeeded. But our people did not vote Atal ji for one more term. That is the tragedy.
These people in panel (except Vinay Sitapati) have no respect to India's best PM Shri PV NarasimhaRao. He made Bharat standing proud in front of World. He is Bharat's pride. Jai PVNR.....Jai Hind🙏
Giving credit to Manmohan was a Sonia pick ...so boot liker jairam is so falsely praising him. Even Manmohan consider Rao as his Guru though not openly as he is slave of Gandhi’s
Enjoyed the discussion.
What a great analyst Jairam Ramesh is! Congress should use his talents.
Coming to Rao, I think, he thought Babri was a historic wrong that had to be corrected. If you look at his actions and decisions, you can see that he had a deep sense to right the wrong! Laws are there to to deliver justice and if the laws harm a majority, not applying them is the way of Sri Krishna. He became a statesman when he displayed detachment. That’s mahaprastana! Bhimasena had great strength; Arjuna was shatrapravina; nakula and Sahadeva had special talents. But Yudhishthira prevailed over everyone with wisdom. The young author and the bureaucrat do not have the measure of Rao.
I agree with your every word.
@JR is paid artest to Congress
We should learn from him who is Natasha Rao the entire nation want.
I also agree with Sri ranga Naidu why the Congress not supported pvn because. Of non loyalty towards Mrs soniya Gandhi more over he worked for the future of the nation
It is very easy for people like Godbole after the event is over....
Don't interview there jokers or bafoons.Its an insult to the great legend called P.V.He was modern Chanakya and Karma Yogi.
PVN was great visionary, who never takes credit and acted silence with reforms and kept the country moving in social, economical and political crisis. But this great son of India was put to humiliation by his own party in his last days and now they are paying for their acts without a leader to lead.
Pv only given chance to manmohan, even all congress people opposed it.
Vinay explains very well. We can always have another school of thought for PVs inaction. Had he dismissed Kalyan Singh, BJP could have mobilised thousands of Kar sevaks which could have lead to fatalities. PV would have been called an anti Hindu.
Very great person.
We should be balanced when expressing our opinions.
Pv should be honored with Bharath rathna
Congress didn't give credit 2 pvnr
He is not giving the credit to Rao as he had pushed Jairam out of the PMO and so he is biased. A minority govt needed immense will to agree to IMF and implement virtually everything that everyone opposed. So lets give the credit to Rao.
at 57.19 Mr.jai ram ramesh ji u don't know foreign policy
u know but he made out standing policy to develop nation but u don't like tell about what he had did
why u r escape from this question
P. V. Narasimha Rao was really the architect of modern India. Which came to him by default. Maino's family thought he would be a puppet. But utilised the financial acumen of Manmohan and articulated the economy. Neither Maino nor Congress liked the popularity of Rao. Even Congress backed press. His achievements ignored. Rest is history.
Suggesting action before any act to come in preview of 355 is unbelievable and not genuine for him to say now without any record .
It was different then. PV was running a minority Govt. Every six month BJP would try to put no confidence motion. PV was walking on swords edge. He ran his minority Govt 5 years was a great thing. With all these he reformed India and did a great job, can anyone imagine? I don't think he enjoyed being a PM, rather held his breath every moment and ran the Govt and did reforms for the people. With regards to Babri Masjid, I think he thought the issue would go and BJP would not have any agenda to play if it was demolished. After the demolition he dismissed BJP run UP, MP and HP Govts and Congress came to power in these states. He made the UP state Govt responsible. Due to that Kalyan Singh resigned himself. With regards to Delhi riots though no one will like any kind of killings, imagine the emotional stand of people of India when Mrs Gandhi died? What would have been his mindset at that time losing a leader he loved all along? It was a shock everyone in India. That too she was killed by her own body guard. Now it is easy to comment and give ideas. What happened after the assassination? Congress won with huge majority with sympathy votes. That shows how much it emotionally impacted people.
Highly commend Vinay Sitapathi for bringing out the facts about the courageous policy shift prime minister Sri P.V. Narasimha rao made to turn around the Indian economy, a basket case he inherited. Sitapathi has done a great service to Indian history by demolishing the untruths perpetuated by the likes of Godbole, Jairam Ramesh, and Mani Shankar Iyer, the servile courtiers of Sonia Gandhi, an empress installed and worshiped by the Congress party.
Mr Vijay Sethapathy is brilliant as well as uridite he leaves no stone unturned to show that Congressmen including Sonia Gandhi were rogues and had no clue how to solve the issue they pushed Narasimha Rao dammed if he did famed if he did not. Even Sriram Ramesh has got scared to talk against Sonia Gandhi despite his intellectualism he is a true politician. Authority without Responsibility. Nathan Sekhar Sydney Australia.
I wish Mr Godbole held up the mic better.
Demolition of Babri maszid is not worth the ryots that may take place if PV N Rao would have stopped demolition. He was a more humanitarian and less politician Jairam. Jairam and Godbole claims that it is PV, what happened to these guys, why did these people came to people and talked about facts when they know everything.
I still dont understand why it's not the one who demolished (BJP) is blamed but the one who has no support from his own party is made a scape goat... and ironically BJP got to power in 96.. so people accepted BJP demolishing it? But every one is blaming PV the greatest reformer of indian economy even today.. Dont forget Gujarat riots .. and BJP is in power in Gujarat till date...This happens only in india
Poraaa thayeee Jayaram ga nev hindu kada raaaa
39:10
Jiram u don't known first you learn .....government lawsss
And Mr Jairam Ramesh has the goals to say that 320 MPs were in support of a congress whereas cong won 235 seats and supporting parties had 20 odd seats .
VP Singh survival on Mondol Commission came from M K of DMK , for they successfully surmounted many political hurdles by fomenting and inciting OBC BCetc., that ensured their survival amidst big corruption cases
See if your house boundary wall was demolished without your knowledge,if you are somewhere and information came some late,can you stop it.
Indian constitution was copied mostly from British constitution including the spellings. I don’t know what his point is, at least he was smart enough to take help from the best. PV was a gem, it still baffles me what beef Gandhi family has with him.
Why is destruction of Babri mosque discussed as such a big tragedy. If a temple was destroyed in its place it wouldn't been such a big deal for these people.
The person between sitapati and jaram is not speaking true and not even genuine. He wants to please some people for his future only. Unfortunate at his age now.
So they're not going to accept PVR as a leader who did something good. Same happened to MNS during UPAs. How good the leadership can be, they'll never give credit to them except that they're from 'The Family' . Says the whole story with reasons of where the congress is today.
was there another option
Rao's one of the blunder was his friendship with '"Chandraswami" . It was Chandraswami who ordered LTTE to kill RAJIV GANDHI. And P.M. Rao was protecting him from being arrested. Because of his interference C.B.I. was unable to arrest him. There are also other flaws like Babri Masjid, Bombay Blasts, Harshad Mehta Scam where he failed to act immediately. Beside these flaws I stll admire him for he was the first P.M from South India and his economic reforms helped india in many ways as a developed County.
Pv follows government laws
The best prime minister of India
JR must be a fool to say that PVN was a failure as union minister.
Jairam Ramesh is a puppet and basically jealous of achievements of PVN who is from Cong a non Gandhi family member
He did his duty as a PM on economic front,
I don’t think Hindu in him let Babri fall
He let a road for stronger opposition,inspite of knowing sanghs
agenda and its organisational values,
May be he believed India should go through this Hindu supremacy regime too to become a much real secular state,nothing to lose if it fails?
Whatever it may be,he grabbed the oppurtunity and emerged as a winner,
He spoke a little but did a lot,he pushed congress into a puzzle of religious maze wall,which it is badly fighting now,but nowhere near to crack it!
Inspite of shortcomings there is no doubt congress built the modern India,albeit being swept away in the religious model of sangh in every election!
It’s upto the people of India to choose their path,that is what P.V might have predicted or wished!
Only time will answer!
Any how P.V was one hell of a politician
P.S our current PM is lucky as he is just a rubber stamp of sangh and cronies,as long as he satisfies his masters he is in the chair
half way thru, i just feel mr.jayaram is awe at pv. but wants to project otherwisw
u all r supporting Congress but not PVN because he is not caring about sonia Gandhi says
those u r supporting to upa that persons u people supporting
that capable of thinking u have now ur position is where is as u know
Just credit the wily old man late p v NARSIMHA Rao for bringing the economic reforms during the turbulent yrs of 1991 to 1996 which put india back on pedestral . The blue prints of reforms of Sri Subramanian swamy was available with 4 prime ministers before him & they all failed to implement these reforms. Celebrate the life of first non Gandhi prime minister of Indian national congress & atleast now the party should credit & accept his achievements in public .
He was great as Chief Minister also. Jairam Ramesh got it wrong
PV Narashima Rao is undoubtedly the best best Prime Minister of India. These paid stooges are brainless people. They forget NPT, CTBT and so many other reforms.
Jairam says PVNR was a monumental failure before PM and he follows RG who didnt have any electoral victory. Talk about hypocrisy
Hi Jayaram ..Take care if your party now.. you are not eligible to comment on PV...People like you and ahmed patel VH Manish Abhishek ..Party became like this...I am happy to see the death of congress party as people of AP
really these all are paid artists.They are always spoken badly about p.v Narashimarao garu.He was intellectual but they didn't agree with that.The great personality of Rao garu .These are loosers
Such a brilliant discussion Must watch
There is an allegation on PV because of his tacit understanding with BJP, it came to power. If that is the case, then definitely he is a cheater as he is grown with the bread & butter of INC.
All these backstabbers gathered here.When his dead body was not allowed inside Delhi Congress bhavan none were present there to raise objections.
Due to jairam dugvijay Congress liss strong commend in South simply disappeared
These fellows won't even get there family members votes but these fellows our ministers
vikram sampath in the audience?
thanks for the people who talk for money pls dont lose ur soul for money. where were all the best dynamic so called leaders when he become the PM for INDIA in trouble. he made india resurrect. Dont maliagn him with mean comments. why cant u spk about the series of events that took place around his mortal body. can u pull out a national wide meeting on that ..oh ur not funded for that. all indians give money for u ... do it...bcas u need funding right.
Jairam Ramesh forced by congress not to praise PVN Rao. Strange argument. The PM is the leader. If anything goes wrong in cabinet PM is responsible where as if good work done by cabinet credit goes to cabinet minister not PM. Fathu argument by Ramesh.
What about the autonomy in the party that Mr. PV once belonged to? They speak about autonomy in current RBI. Hypocrites! Impractical and foolish ppl speaking about a great person..
Jairam Ramesh tried his best discredit THE MAN. He knew exactly what he was doing. He was more intelligent than they all thought. He silenced the allies and opposition when they were going against them with Hawala case. Congress hated him as he was going against the ITALIAN mafia style.
Jiram u r Muslim........
U r very worst person jairam
JRR... Is a big cheater in view of AP
As usual a lot of bullshit and fake narrative. The blueprint and implementation was cleared on the last day of Chandrasekar govt.
I feel sad that they are more interested in talking about negatives of p.v than atleast appreciate him now for his reforms