@@powertotherobots0 well, from what I heard the Orthodox Church accuses the Vatican of being "fake Christians" because Orthodoxy was the first and original Christianity before it split up. To be fair, the Orthodox Church has a good point. So for almost thousand years they argued who is right and the true Christian ideology.
To be honest, I don’t think this scene strays too far from the truth. “Will you submit to Rome?” “No.” “Okay. Let’s give it, say, 20 minutes so the folks out there think we’re making progress here.” “Fine by me.” “Can I get you anything to drink?” “Oh, the usual. Thank you.”
that'd be an appology to the patriarch of constantinople, not the patriarch of moscow, if it wasn't for the sacking of constantinople, the patriarchate of moscow wouldn't exist
@@justinian-the-great You an't possibly be serious. Try studying a little history before making such ridiculous claims. the stolen goods taken during the sack of Constantinople were sold to the merchant families of Venice where they exist TO THIS DAY. The pope excommunicated every participant in the sacking of Constantinople and sent supplies and aid to help rebuild the city. As for the "Latin" patriarch, that's an outright myth. The French oppression of Greece had nothing to do with the sack, and the patriarchs placed in position were recognized and accepted by the Eastern bishops and patriarchs as well as the Western. Stop making things up in a blatant and hollow attempt to attack the Catholic Church. You are obviously biased and trying to justify your prejudices.
This is really funny. The New Pope doesn't hold back against leaders he doesn't like so his unusual silence may suggest some sort of respect for a fellow ultraconservative.
Ultraconservatives of different bases for their ultraconservative don't really respect each other. Muslim clerics don't respect Christian fundamentalists just because they're both conservative, and British fascists don't respect the Myanmarese military junta
@@CodaMission Live in a Conservative muslim country can confirm. In fact I see it that groups that have similar values but happen to be in different 'factions' hate each other more than people who have different values than them. You can probably guess the what hardline muslim clerocs and preachers say about the Christian ideology and vice versa. It all comes down to the small differences and who is in power. There's probably exceptions to this too, sometimes theres the rare muslim preacher praising the Conservative christians or jews who reject moderm social changes etc.
@Flavius Theodosius lmao don't try so hard to be snarky. You know perfectly well that I'm talking about the Catholic Church. The one which you spread lies about in other comments.
@National Socialism You're the one rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ. It certainly wasn't Jesus Christ who taught you to gloat the supposed damnation of another man, nor was it Jesus Christ who taught you to judge another man. And it DEFINITELY wasn't Jesus Christ who taught you to adopt the name of the Nazi party as your username.
@@khatack The word "Catholic" is not inherently Roman Catholicism. Nor is a lowercase o "orthodoxy" necessarily meaning the Orthodox Church. Both sides use these terms.
@@Ian-fw2fp what are you clown talking about? patriarchs always were russian governments puppets since tsardom, and during cccp all priests were kgb agents. so they frenchkiss putins ass everyday. putin just makes show out of his "piety" because it helps to keep religious russians obedient
Stefan Kuznetsov I think he was too disillusioned by the idol to really pay attention to what was going on. It wasn't meant to be an actual historical thing.
I am unsure what even in particular you are referring to but you are correct like when the Orthodox Bishops systematically covered up hundreds of sex abuse cases? and like the time the Brazilian Orthodox Bishop had a circus liturgy with clowns and circus music? like the liturgical abuses that happen daily in the Orthodox services? or how about the son of Orthodox Patriarch who had an orgy in the Papal Palace?.Or how about a major reform in the Orthodox Church in the 1960s which was made in part by Protestants?
Anton Babani firstly we never bowed to communism we were exterminated by it. Also regarding Islamic conquest you forget they took Spain and western churches from you too "so easily". Also the Greek homosexual churches have no communion with the Patriarch or the Greek orthodox church. Also our church never fell into the sin of letting thousands of innocent children being molested and covered up by the Vatican. And I do not think the Vatican can talk about living in luxury while people around you starve. Both churches have mistakes but we never went against the Bible with graven images.
Anton Babani a treaty that still has the Popes signature on it. Of course they coped with it they had no choice but they never taught it or endorsed it in churches that's why thousands of clergy and orthodox Christians were butchered under it.
Its very saddening to see these comments on this video. I hope and pray with all my heart that the Orthodox and Catholics reunify one day and end this schism.
@ۛ it's lukewarm of me to want to put an end to the schism and reunite God's church under the blessed sacrament? If you think that's something evil, all of Christendom in full communion again, then you, not I, will be spit out.
@@basileus1447 Compromise the Church to please the schismatics? I'll stick with the Church, you stubborn schismatics shall burn if you are that thickheaded and deaf.
@@LuisRincon-wr4dm Ok heretic. The Protestant heretics is bastard son of Latin heretics and Both of Roman Catholics and Protestants go far from the truth. Your institution are distorted. See Vatican II and your "inventions" after you go astray from the truth.
@@basileus1447 Says the guy from a sect whose main converts are protestants who even after their convertion they still remain acting as protestants and even use protestant arguments. Says the guy from a sect that constantly splits due to regional and national issues. Says the guy whose members say different things about what supposedly is the "orthodox" faith. Says the guy who probably is just another protestant larper who became a russian just for pretty colors and not for real substance. Keep deluding yourself believing protestantism (which shares even more traits with schismatic byzantines than with the Roman Catholic Church) was a work of the Roman Catholic Church and not one of corrupt politicians using heretics for their goals against the empire. Keep deluding yourself thinking that freemasonic sect (which your sect prays with) is the Catholic Church.
What was/is the purpose of their meeting each other? It looked like they found nothing to say to each other and the patriarch looked shocked to see that statue.
Orthodoxy holds that such statues are a form of idolatry even if it was a saint or angel it would still be idolatry which is heretical, however that statue goes beyond the pale in that it is heathen. Needless to say given such differing views they may have a lot to not say.
holy statues of angels and saints are more biblical than an Eastern orthodox painted Icon.... Just read the ARk of the Covenant or the Temple of Solomon and you will see a lot of description of Cherubim statues...But not a single painted Icon...
There was a certain awkward silence in the room that was almost palpable. It was broken by the Orthodox representative looking at what looks to me like a Minoan statue from the island of Crete. I really want to know what was going through his head when he was looking at that. Did he disapprove because of this toleration of idolatry? Or did he approve because of the breadth of the knowledge and the collection of his Catholic companion? Was he preparing himself to criticise him? Or was he having second thoughts about how much common interest the two really had? Or was he going to get angry that something from an Orthodox country (Greece) should be with the Catholics and not with the Orthodox? Or is he happy that the Catholics are more pagan than the Orthodox? Whatever he planned his response to be, all of this was disrupted by the papal pressing of a secret button, causing a serving one to create a natural looking diversion, releasing him from wherever he anticipated might come next. So many unanswered questions. But it feels to me that the Orthodox side successfully routed the highest representative of the Latin side. Nevertheless, the Latin side would still have the numerical advantage, not to mention the economic, financial, political and military advantage in the complex network of alliances and affiliations that dot the globe.
You need to see it plainly. This tv series is fiction. The mockery are insinuations of sexual lust while looking at the earth mother goddess fertility statue. The person who wrote the script is a nasty propagandists in the Communist tradition.
@@johnfisher247 But why would they depict the Roman Catholic church displaying an icon of the mother goddess? Are they trying to accuse the Church of something?
The Queen in The Crown has a similar one when receiving Prime Ministers, and tells Princess Margaret when she presses a similar one elsewhere "Hey, that's MY button!"
I always thought the Patriarch had a fancier, rounder hat with a cross and lappets. Also, the Venus of Willendorf is kind of suggestive of the Pachamama thing at the Vatican.
The Patruarch of Moscow does have a rounded klobuk. It has two Seraphim on the lappets, and the gilded cross on the top. This scene is funny, but relatively inaccurate.
what a perfect detail, in soviet regions friends kissing left cheek when meeting and when departing ! and Jude went for the second but he left !!! just perfect !
@@GonzoInside Зачем же вы, Сирожа, дезинформируете западную общественность относительно наших традиций? Мы целуемся при встрече - троекратно с друзьями, давними знакомыми. Троекратно. Вот своих родных целуем один раз - без церемоний. Братва обнимается и целуется, приживаясь щеками. А уж как целовался Леонид Ильич, это вообще притча во языцех.
@@tliloselotl_ ... In the Russian Orthodox Church, priests of equal rank or well-known can greet each other by kissing each other's hand - they hold each other's hand and kiss it at the same time. Unfortunately, I did not find a photo or video, but whoever visits service in a church could see this - such a greeting is accepted when meeting at a service or when approaching communion. The priests can greet each other by kissing each other on the shoulder.
The Young Pope was just waiting for The Patriarch of Moscow to say that He wishes to return under the magisterium of Rome ...until then not much to discuss
Who are the Liturgical costume advisers for this program? The mitre and cope are worn by the pope and other bishops only at liturgical celebrations in Church and at the altar, never sitting at a desk. It makes the whole thing look foolish!
Giovanni Serafino And that is the headgear of a Russian Metropolitan, not the Patriarch. The whole thing is glorified Disney, unfortunately, because there is a serious point to be made.
Pretty sure the Pope in this show makes a point of dressing extravagantly as a display of power and glory to God or something, but I dont know about the Patriarch. Knowledge about Orthodoxy is unfortunately very rare in the West
The whole show is a joke on icons and it never ever aims at accuracy. The main character is like a disillusioned brat who plays pope, the show is about him, not about the papacy, it hardly matters whether something is plausible or not, the pope thing is just a way of exploring a troubled life and personality.
What is the statue that the patriarch is looking at? Also, what’s the context of the scene and how does the statue and the awkward silence fit into it.
It’s the Venus of Willendorf, a fertility statue that’s over 25,000 years old. another character mentioned it’s hypnotic quality so it’s kind of a running joke that it keeps catching the attention of these religious men
I imagined that the reason for the awkward silence was because of the idolatrous nature of having a pagan votive figure in the office of the pontiff so the patriarch’s reaction was like “wwhhhhaaaat? Why do you have that here?”
@freneticness _ Dude, where are you getting your information from? Eastern Orthodox bishops CANNOT be married. They are ALWAYS chosen from among celibate clergy.
@freneticness _ He divorced his wife BEFORE he became a monk 🤦🏽♂️ he was a priest for less than a year before he left her. And btw, you say the Catholic Church is “insane” about these sorts of things, but you fail to realize that the Eastern Catholic Churches follow the exact same discipline as the Orthodox Churches in this matter. Just goes to show how little you actually know about the subject.
And when you know there’s “Dies Irae” in catholic requiem mass on one side and “Repose with the Saints Christ our Lord” in orthodox funeral, you know which side propagates love and prayer for one’s soul. Glad to be Eastern Orthodox... thank God.
@@veovis523 guess what - catholics needed few centuries just to get to conclusion that it might look like that it frightens people. Few centuries?! Mentality - better said: spiritual mentality. That’s the main difference between Cath. and Orth. For Catholics it’s all about death and Cross and crucifixion. For Orthodox it’s all about Resurrection. Enough said.
I assume you mean the Catholic Pope of Rome, not the Orthodox Pope of Alexandria nor the Coptic Pope of Alexandria….(there is no Orthodox Pope of Rome since 12/25/800).
The full title of the Christ's Church is as the Roman Canon says. And all orthodox believers if the Catholic, apostolic faith. Roman Rite Christians are generally very unhappy about the Modernist popes especially Paul VI and Francis.Etymologically, modernism means an exaggerated love of what is modern, an infatuation for modern ideas, "the abuse of what is modern", as the Abbé Gaudaud explains (La Foi catholique, I, 1908, p. 248). The modern ideas of which we speak are not as old as the period called "modern times". Though Protestantism has generated them little by little, it did not understand from the beginning that such would be its sequel. There even exists a conservative Protestant party which is one with the Church in combating modernism. In general we may say that modernism aims at that radical transformation of human thought in relation to God, man, the world, and life, here and hereafter, which was prepared by Humanism and eighteenth-century philosophy, and solemnly promulgated at the French Revolution. J.J. Rousseau, who treated an atheistical philosopher of his time as a modernist, seems to have been the first to use the word in this sense ("Correspondance à M. D.", 15 Jan. 1769). Littré (Dictionnaire), who cites the passage; explains: "Modernist, one who esteems modern times above antiquity". After that, the word seems to have been forgotten, till the time of the Catholic publicist Périn (1815-1905), professor at the University of Louvain, 1844-1889. This writer, while apologizing for the coinage, describes "the humanitarian tendencies of contemporary society" as modernism. The term itself he defines as "the ambition to eliminate God from all social life". With this absolute modernism he associates a more temperate form, which he declares to be nothing less than "liberalism of every degree and shade" ("Le Modernisme dans l'Église d'après les lettres inéditesde Lamennais", Paris, 1881).
We the Orthodox pray for Unity with our lost family the western church but unity in repentance of all the innovations and Heresy, and only then true unity
@@TotalTryFails : Thank you we appreciate you bing prepared to do the same but we have no innovations or heresy that we can give up for you dear brother !
Pope is the head of the catholic church while the Russian Patriarch is a powerfull patriarch but still not as powerfull(at least in theory) with the first amoung equals the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople.
@@JetShanghai Yeah. In our language it is "Papa" which means pope but without the Roman connotation. For example the "Pope of the Coptic Orthodox church of Alexandrea" is the title for the head of the holy synod of the Coptic church. He would be "first among equals" and not a central body like the Pope of Rome.
It's rather excessive that he'd wear a golden cope and miter in his office. That's not the proper use or attire for a pontiff in that situation. Those are liturgical vestments, not everyday, regal garments. This shows immaturity and narcissism.
And that’s the closest the two churches have come to reuniting.
Victor von Doom HUEHUEHURHUEHUE
Hello. hi. okay i gotta go now. bye.
Sadly, you're right. They never get along.
@@olympia5758 they have nothing even to argue about
@@powertotherobots0 well, from what I heard the Orthodox Church accuses the Vatican of being "fake Christians" because Orthodoxy was the first and original Christianity before it split up. To be fair, the Orthodox Church has a good point. So for almost thousand years they argued who is right and the true Christian ideology.
To be honest, I don’t think this scene strays too far from the truth.
“Will you submit to Rome?”
“No.”
“Okay. Let’s give it, say, 20 minutes so the folks out there think we’re making progress here.”
“Fine by me.”
“Can I get you anything to drink?”
“Oh, the usual. Thank you.”
* *pours wine for himself and vodka for the Patriarch* *
@@Mycroft93*Vodka is such a high quality that the Patriarch submits to Rome*
I thought Lenny's beverage of choice was a Cherry Coke Zero, though, no?
Jesus was never in rome 🚫
But he was in Egypt ❤️🇪🇬
That's why roman catholics are jealous
@@EgyptianOrthodox Wasn't Egypt part of/absorbed into/controlled by the Roman Empire at that point?
9 of 10 of my job interviews.
LMFAO
Omg!lol
I'm sure that includes the Russian music in the background
Lmfao
So you mean you had a chance!!
"Hey...sorry about the sack of Constantinople."
"Oh that. Truthfully we've bee so busy dealing with the Communists we've almost forgotten."
"now apologize for the massacre of the Latins"
Catholic Church wasn't responsible for the sack and the pope condemned it, even excommunicating those who ordered it.
*"Actually, Moscow is not on speaking terms with the phanariotes anymore..."
that'd be an appology to the patriarch of constantinople, not the patriarch of moscow, if it wasn't for the sacking of constantinople, the patriarchate of moscow wouldn't exist
@@justinian-the-great You an't possibly be serious. Try studying a little history before making such ridiculous claims.
the stolen goods taken during the sack of Constantinople were sold to the merchant families of Venice where they exist TO THIS DAY. The pope excommunicated every participant in the sacking of Constantinople and sent supplies and aid to help rebuild the city.
As for the "Latin" patriarch, that's an outright myth. The French oppression of Greece had nothing to do with the sack, and the patriarchs placed in position were recognized and accepted by the Eastern bishops and patriarchs as well as the Western.
Stop making things up in a blatant and hollow attempt to attack the Catholic Church. You are obviously biased and trying to justify your prejudices.
This is really funny. The New Pope doesn't hold back against leaders he doesn't like so his unusual silence may suggest some sort of respect for a fellow ultraconservative.
Finally someone is on the right track
@Brandon Smith The same music and everything...
Fucking Hilarious.
Hello fellow ultraconservative
Ultraconservatives of different bases for their ultraconservative don't really respect each other. Muslim clerics don't respect Christian fundamentalists just because they're both conservative, and British fascists don't respect the Myanmarese military junta
@@CodaMission Live in a Conservative muslim country can confirm. In fact I see it that groups that have similar values but happen to be in different 'factions' hate each other more than people who have different values than them. You can probably guess the what hardline muslim clerocs and preachers say about the Christian ideology and vice versa. It all comes down to the small differences and who is in power.
There's probably exceptions to this too, sometimes theres the rare muslim preacher praising the Conservative christians or jews who reject moderm social changes etc.
I love the smile on his face whe he got a proper excuse.
If you watch he presses a button under his desk... he wanted out bad.
Time for your snack holy father?
@@DoctorNom zzzzzzzzzzz-zzzzzz
Well this is awkward
And very unrealistic too.
Schisms be like dat.
Based. They understood each other perfectly, neither would budge one single inch and they respected each other for it.
How could the costume design be this bad? A patriarch with the klobuk of a metropolitan and the pectoral cross of a priest lol
@Flavius Theodosius the atheists from the west made it. Not the Western Church. Big difference.
@Flavius Theodosius lmao don't try so hard to be snarky. You know perfectly well that I'm talking about the Catholic Church. The one which you spread lies about in other comments.
perhaps hes actually some kind of uniate? lol
Was just thinking that
@@The42Horsepower very unlikely, because he has been attacking the Pope in other comments threads and intentionally smearing him.
Seeing them exchange the kiss of peace is the most heartwarming thing. God willing we can reunite one day.
Not likely, as long as you call yourselves "Catholic" and "Orthodox" instead of "Christian", there will be no reuniting.
@National Socialism You're the one rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ. It certainly wasn't Jesus Christ who taught you to gloat the supposed damnation of another man, nor was it Jesus Christ who taught you to judge another man. And it DEFINITELY wasn't Jesus Christ who taught you to adopt the name of the Nazi party as your username.
@@khatack no, both call themselves the “catholic church” and having the “orthodox faith.” The terms are not mutually exclusive.
@@traceyedson9652 um, no they don't.
@@khatack The word "Catholic" is not inherently Roman Catholicism. Nor is a lowercase o "orthodoxy" necessarily meaning the Orthodox Church. Both sides use these terms.
Orthodox Patriarh trying to kiss the Pope’s hand.... science fiction movie :))
Yeah, he would rather kiss Putins arsehole
@@Velnias8 and of course, the pope would be kissing pachamama
@@Velnias8 the patriarch doesn't kiss putins ass, putin kisses the patriarchs ass
@@Ian-fw2fp what are you clown talking about? patriarchs always were russian governments puppets since tsardom, and during cccp all priests were kgb agents. so they frenchkiss putins ass everyday.
putin just makes show out of his "piety" because it helps to keep religious russians obedient
@Ž Š because the pope is a patriarch too, he doesn't have any power above the patriarchs
That robe fluff at the end got me.🤣
The history of the churches in one scene!
Whoever wrote this seen don't know Russians... he'd never kiss the popes hand.
Stefan Kuznetsov I think he was too disillusioned by the idol to really pay attention to what was going on. It wasn't meant to be an actual historical thing.
It historically happened sooo.
if anything the pope should be kissing the patriarchs hand
James Medynski why?
James Medynski Who was here first? Exactly, the Pope. Bow down to his Holiness not the patriarch
i love how not a single word was spoken between the two but you know how they feel about each other anyways. Good acting
The Patriarch is very sensitive to heretical statues.
I am unsure what even in particular you are referring to but you are correct like when the Orthodox Bishops systematically covered up hundreds of sex abuse cases? and like the time the Brazilian Orthodox Bishop had a circus liturgy with clowns and circus music? like the liturgical abuses that happen daily in the Orthodox services? or how about the son of Orthodox Patriarch who had an orgy in the Papal Palace?.Or how about a major reform in the Orthodox Church in the 1960s which was made in part by Protestants?
Tom W GET EM!
Anton Babani firstly we never bowed to communism we were exterminated by it. Also regarding Islamic conquest you forget they took Spain and western churches from you too "so easily".
Also the Greek homosexual churches have no communion with the Patriarch or the Greek orthodox church. Also our church never fell into the sin of letting thousands of innocent children being molested and covered up by the Vatican.
And I do not think the Vatican can talk about living in luxury while people around you starve.
Both churches have mistakes but we never went against the Bible with graven images.
Anton Babani or we could talk about Reichskonkordat while Pope Pius made a treaty with fascism, Nazism and Hitler.
Anton Babani a treaty that still has the Popes signature on it. Of course they coped with it they had no choice but they never taught it or endorsed it in churches that's why thousands of clergy and orthodox Christians were butchered under it.
I'm not even Orthodox but Kiril would have laughed in his face then proceeded on a diatribe about the failures of the Catholic Church.
Agreed 100%
@Flavius Theodosius cope
@@youtubehasbigcringe pachamama
But Lenny knows its problems already
Kiril is a former KGB agent and a warmonger. He has no ground to stand on when it comes to moral matters.
Love the cape swirl at the end
The slam cut to the Venus of Willendorf figurine got me. 🤣
Its very saddening to see these comments on this video. I hope and pray with all my heart that the Orthodox and Catholics reunify one day and end this schism.
This is the only wholesome comment on this vid
Aye, and that goes for protestants as well, that we make the catholic church catholic again.
@ۛ why @ me?
@ۛ it's lukewarm of me to want to put an end to the schism and reunite God's church under the blessed sacrament? If you think that's something evil, all of Christendom in full communion again, then you, not I, will be spit out.
@ۛ it's the holy spirit that'll do it, not us. But we must be instruments for God's will, not to oppose it.
basically a pagan statue in the popes office
The Young Pope predicted Pachamama
whoever has the biggest hat, is the most important
False analogy.
The hat in this film is mistaken. See my comment above.
@@tliloselotl_ You don't know what an analogy is.
The EO demands Rome drop the Filioque while Rome demands submission to the Petrine Throne.
I love the Venus of Villendorf running joke.
the fucking cape swish at the end though...
Alternative title: Santa and sentient Easter egg awkwardly & silently sit in a room while Kalinka plays
Our Patriarch doesn't wear a hat like that. That is a Metropolitan.
Only Union is acceptable if Roman Catholics repent her error and rejoin to Orthodox Church
@@basileus1447 other way around
@@basileus1447 Compromise the Church to please the schismatics? I'll stick with the Church, you stubborn schismatics shall burn if you are that thickheaded and deaf.
@@LuisRincon-wr4dm Ok heretic. The Protestant heretics is bastard son of Latin heretics and Both of Roman Catholics and Protestants go far from the truth. Your institution are distorted. See Vatican II and your "inventions" after you go astray from the truth.
@@basileus1447 Says the guy from a sect whose main converts are protestants who even after their convertion they still remain acting as protestants and even use protestant arguments. Says the guy from a sect that constantly splits due to regional and national issues. Says the guy whose members say different things about what supposedly is the "orthodox" faith. Says the guy who probably is just another protestant larper who became a russian just for pretty colors and not for real substance. Keep deluding yourself believing protestantism (which shares even more traits with schismatic byzantines than with the Roman Catholic Church) was a work of the Roman Catholic Church and not one of corrupt politicians using heretics for their goals against the empire. Keep deluding yourself thinking that freemasonic sect (which your sect prays with) is the Catholic Church.
0:29 , oh come on, Venus. Stop for a moment.
You got mad to Cardinal Voiello and now you´re playing with this Patricarch, wow, you need a rest, girl.
What was/is the purpose of their meeting each other? It looked like they found nothing to say to each other and the patriarch looked shocked to see that statue.
It could also be that the Orthodox don't usually use statues in church buildings, at least not nearly as much as Catholics do.
Orthodoxy holds that such statues are a form of idolatry even if it was a saint or angel it would still be idolatry which is heretical, however that statue goes beyond the pale in that it is heathen. Needless to say given such differing views they may have a lot to not say.
holy statues of angels and saints are more biblical than an Eastern orthodox painted Icon.... Just read the ARk of the Covenant or the Temple of Solomon and you will see a lot of description of Cherubim statues...But not a single painted Icon...
i though iconoclasm was followed by only some orthodox members and not all
Stephen Fleri Soler it ancient sex figure.
It's like it's 1054 all over again.
There was a certain awkward silence in the room that was almost palpable. It was broken by the Orthodox representative looking at what looks to me like a Minoan statue from the island of Crete. I really want to know what was going through his head when he was looking at that. Did he disapprove because of this toleration of idolatry? Or did he approve because of the breadth of the knowledge and the collection of his Catholic companion? Was he preparing himself to criticise him? Or was he having second thoughts about how much common interest the two really had? Or was he going to get angry that something from an Orthodox country (Greece) should be with the Catholics and not with the Orthodox? Or is he happy that the Catholics are more pagan than the Orthodox?
Whatever he planned his response to be, all of this was disrupted by the papal pressing of a secret button, causing a serving one to create a natural looking diversion, releasing him from wherever he anticipated might come next.
So many unanswered questions. But it feels to me that the Orthodox side successfully routed the highest representative of the Latin side. Nevertheless, the Latin side would still have the numerical advantage, not to mention the economic, financial, political and military advantage in the complex network of alliances and affiliations that dot the globe.
You need to see it plainly. This tv series is fiction. The mockery are insinuations of sexual lust while looking at the earth mother goddess fertility statue. The person who wrote the script is a nasty propagandists in the Communist tradition.
@@johnfisher247
But why would they depict the Roman Catholic church displaying an icon of the mother goddess?
Are they trying to accuse the Church of something?
@@johnfisher247
Is that right? Yikes!
@@nietzschesmoustache3585 Pachamama
@@johnfisher247 i love propaganda now
As a Russian Catholic, this is accurate AF. Lol.
Misty Mockingbird Brother!
Misty Mockingbird Russian Catholics are a miracle.
For those wondering what the music is, it is called Kalinka by the red army choir.
This is the tensest game of Tetris I've ever seen.
Yey tf2
We all need a button like that!
The Queen in The Crown has a similar one when receiving Prime Ministers, and tells Princess Margaret when she presses a similar one elsewhere "Hey, that's MY button!"
I always thought the Patriarch had a fancier, rounder hat with a cross and lappets.
Also, the Venus of Willendorf is kind of suggestive of the Pachamama thing at the Vatican.
The Patruarch of Moscow does have a rounded klobuk. It has two Seraphim on the lappets, and the gilded cross on the top. This scene is funny, but relatively inaccurate.
For some reason they dressed the guy in this scene like a Bulgarian patriarch.
what a perfect detail, in soviet regions friends kissing left cheek when meeting and when departing ! and Jude went for the second but he left !!! just perfect !
Soviet regions? Really?
In Russia, we NEVER kiss, when meeting friends. Only family members kiss each other.
But no kissing hands and neither the hat, the patriarch has a bigger hat
@@GonzoInside Зачем же вы, Сирожа, дезинформируете западную общественность относительно наших традиций? Мы целуемся при встрече - троекратно с друзьями, давними знакомыми. Троекратно. Вот своих родных целуем один раз - без церемоний. Братва обнимается и целуется, приживаясь щеками. А уж как целовался Леонид Ильич, это вообще притча во языцех.
@@tliloselotl_ ... In the Russian Orthodox Church, priests of equal rank or well-known can greet each other by kissing each other's hand - they hold each other's hand and kiss it at the same time. Unfortunately, I did not find a photo or video, but whoever visits service in a church could see this - such a greeting is accepted when meeting at a service or when approaching communion. The priests can greet each other by kissing each other on the shoulder.
The Young Pope was just waiting for The Patriarch of Moscow to say that He wishes to return under the magisterium of Rome ...until then not much to discuss
The pope should be stepping down, not the patriarchs acknowledging his false power
that last turn was like dracula cape swirl movement
It's more like a bulgarian patriarch than a Moscow
One of the best scenes in the series.
That was an insult seeing that fertility doll.
Love the Batmanesque use of the cloak 👍👍
Very accurate. We orthodox do love our beards. In fact, that is our goal. To be one with the beard
In the beard we have Christ🤣
The patriarch might have been thinking about the metropolit of Leningrad who died from heart attack during the audience at Pope John Paul I.
Who are the Liturgical costume advisers for this program? The mitre and cope are worn by the pope and other bishops only at liturgical celebrations in Church and at the altar, never sitting at a desk. It makes the whole thing look foolish!
Giovanni Serafino And that is the headgear of a Russian Metropolitan, not the Patriarch. The whole thing is glorified Disney, unfortunately, because there is a serious point to be made.
I so agree. I had to snicker at such an outlandish costume.
Pretty sure the Pope in this show makes a point of dressing extravagantly as a display of power and glory to God or something, but I dont know about the Patriarch. Knowledge about Orthodoxy is unfortunately very rare in the West
The whole show is a joke on icons and it never ever aims at accuracy. The main character is like a disillusioned brat who plays pope, the show is about him, not about the papacy, it hardly matters whether something is plausible or not, the pope thing is just a way of exploring a troubled life and personality.
Oh, *now* it looks silly, does it?
Announcing the Notre Dame fire at the intro almost THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE...???
SO CUTE!
I love this scene.
*Sees the Venus of Willendorf*
Patricharh's Mind: wwwwwWWWWWWwwwwwWWWWWWwwwwwwwWWWWww hey. hey.
What is the statue that the patriarch is looking at? Also, what’s the context of the scene and how does the statue and the awkward silence fit into it.
It’s the Venus of Willendorf, a fertility statue that’s over 25,000 years old. another character mentioned it’s hypnotic quality so it’s kind of a running joke that it keeps catching the attention of these religious men
I imagined that the reason for the awkward silence was because of the idolatrous nature of having a pagan votive figure in the office of the pontiff so the patriarch’s reaction was like “wwhhhhaaaat? Why do you have that here?”
@freneticness _ no, Eastern Orthodox bishops are chosen from among the monastic clergy.
@freneticness _ Dude, where are you getting your information from? Eastern Orthodox bishops CANNOT be married. They are ALWAYS chosen from among celibate clergy.
@freneticness _ He divorced his wife BEFORE he became a monk 🤦🏽♂️ he was a priest for less than a year before he left her. And btw, you say the Catholic Church is “insane” about these sorts of things, but you fail to realize that the Eastern Catholic Churches follow the exact same discipline as the Orthodox Churches in this matter. Just goes to show how little you actually know about the subject.
Well, that dialogue went well
And when you know there’s “Dies Irae” in catholic requiem mass on one side and “Repose with the Saints Christ our Lord” in orthodox funeral, you know which side propagates love and prayer for one’s soul. Glad to be Eastern Orthodox... thank God.
Lol shut the fuck up, you came here to talk shit instead of spread unity?
@@joeroganstrtshots881 talking truth is not talking shit. Btw, unity is not acceptable if not faced with the truth.
I've been to several Catholic funerals, and no one ever played Dies Irae at the mass.
@@veovis523 guess what - catholics needed few centuries just to get to conclusion that it might look like that it frightens people. Few centuries?! Mentality - better said: spiritual mentality. That’s the main difference between Cath. and Orth. For Catholics it’s all about death and Cross and crucifixion. For Orthodox it’s all about Resurrection. Enough said.
@@veovis523 nevertheless, it’s still used in some places....
Just... ı love both...
Dating after the age of 30 years.
This is an ancestor not an idol 🧠
I assume you mean the Catholic Pope of Rome, not the Orthodox Pope of Alexandria nor the Coptic Pope of Alexandria….(there is no Orthodox Pope of Rome since 12/25/800).
The full title of the Christ's Church is as the Roman Canon says. And all orthodox believers if the Catholic, apostolic faith. Roman Rite Christians are generally very unhappy about the Modernist popes especially Paul VI and Francis.Etymologically, modernism means an exaggerated love of what is modern, an infatuation for modern ideas, "the abuse of what is modern", as the Abbé Gaudaud explains (La Foi catholique, I, 1908, p. 248). The modern ideas of which we speak are not as old as the period called "modern times". Though Protestantism has generated them little by little, it did not understand from the beginning that such would be its sequel. There even exists a conservative Protestant party which is one with the Church in combating modernism. In general we may say that modernism aims at that radical transformation of human thought in relation to God, man, the world, and life, here and hereafter, which was prepared by Humanism and eighteenth-century philosophy, and solemnly promulgated at the French Revolution. J.J. Rousseau, who treated an atheistical philosopher of his time as a modernist, seems to have been the first to use the word in this sense ("Correspondance à M. D.", 15 Jan. 1769). Littré (Dictionnaire), who cites the passage; explains: "Modernist, one who esteems modern times above antiquity". After that, the word seems to have been forgotten, till the time of the Catholic publicist Périn (1815-1905), professor at the University of Louvain, 1844-1889. This writer, while apologizing for the coinage, describes "the humanitarian tendencies of contemporary society" as modernism. The term itself he defines as "the ambition to eliminate God from all social life". With this absolute modernism he associates a more temperate form, which he declares to be nothing less than "liberalism of every degree and shade" ("Le Modernisme dans l'Église d'après les lettres inéditesde Lamennais", Paris, 1881).
The patriarch didn't do the Slav Squatt
Some like jewish rabbins
Hahaha. The best scen of all series.
We the Orthodox pray for Unity with our lost family the western church but unity in repentance of all the innovations and Heresy, and only then true unity
We Catholics will do the same for you!
@@TotalTryFails : Thank you we appreciate you bing prepared to do the same but we have no innovations or heresy that we can give up for you dear brother !
@@julianemperor2554 Neither do we brother!
@@TotalTryFails : There we beg to differ 1) Filioque 2) papal infallibility 3) immaculate conception and so you carry on and on ………..
Good on them choosing Kalinka😂👍🏻
Whose England only to give blessing thy name ptttt
Time as comes we all Christian's should unites in war against evils
Christ rules his Church from his throne above the heavens regardless of the hard hearted men who lead her on Earth...
En bayildigim sahneydi 😁😁😁very very good
This is so painfully, painfully true....
That's how I felt one time lol
I like the music! Can someone tell me the name, please?
Kalinka ffs
Patriarch Kirill I of Moscow. Nice.
It's the fastest he clicks the save me button thru the whole season
What was that statue they both were looking at.
The episode pls
Song?
Калинка, калинка, калинка моя!
В саду ягода малинка, малинка моя!
Only a look of gradual disgust at an object of heresy speaks volumes.
That's odd. Stalin had a much easier time getting the Russian Orthodox Church to do his bidding.
:/
Stalin killed many Russian Orthodox. And very many resisted and practiced their faith even when it was extremely dangerous.
St Patriarch Tikhon of blessed memory would disagree with you
Or the whole underground church for that matter
That song was Kalinka wasn't it?
Absolutely right
Why does he have a turnip in a display case?
that's an old pornographic statue that cavemen used to jerk off to
Why is that statue there?
Fucking Kalinka, I laughed my ass off!
There can be only one!
Siempre católicos!
What movie is this?
Young pope
Background music anyone?
Kalinka
What venus of willendorf actually doing in vatican
and that's why i'll choose orthodoxy
And THAT is how you treat schismatics.
This scene is actually confusing to me could someone explain why the Russian guy was staring at that statue
Pagan statue
that looks like barbarian stuff to russian
Can someone explain this scene to me?
Pope is the head of the catholic church while the Russian Patriarch is a powerfull patriarch but still not as powerfull(at least in theory) with the first amoung equals the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople.
I love Russia from Egypt 🇪🇬☦️🇷🇺
Never western, Keep Orthodox ☦️
Venus of Willendorf :)
Kalinka!!!
He reminds me of Father Spydrion only with a whiter beard. 🧐🙏🏼✝️🕊️
He does i agree
I swear this is a fucking comedy
It's very funny.
There was simply nothing to be said.
I NEED THE NAME OF THE SONG RIGHT FUCKING NOW PLEASE
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The Orthodox pope: "Look at Rome being pagan"
We Orthodox don't have a Pope.
@@JetShanghai I am Orthodox and we have a pope. The word pope is used to mean Patriarch
@@julieherz8909 Oriental Orthodox? I have never heard an Eastern Orthodox call one of ours a Pope. Not post-Schism.
@@JetShanghai Yeah. In our language it is "Papa" which means pope but without the Roman connotation. For example the "Pope of the Coptic Orthodox church of Alexandrea" is the title for the head of the holy synod of the Coptic church. He would be "first among equals" and not a central body like the Pope of Rome.
@@JetShanghai actually the Greek Orthodox bishop of Alexandria had the title “Pope and Patriarch”, but I know what you mean by us not having a pope.
That young hot Pope was was strong in who he believed he must be for the sake of his Vatican 1 Roman Catholic Church he presided over then.
they should discuss about filioque
It's rather excessive that he'd wear a golden cope and miter in his office. That's not the proper use or attire for a pontiff in that situation. Those are liturgical vestments, not everyday, regal garments. This shows immaturity and narcissism.