2 year - 20,000 Mile Indian Springfield Review - How Well Do Indian Motorcycles Last?
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- After 2 years and 20k miles I give you the honest truth about my Indian Springfield. What I love and what drives me nuts.
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One other beef on the speedo, it needs to be located where the gas gage and master start is at, and the gage start button below. Not just a glance when wearing a full face helmet, it’s a head bob.
I agree brother. Got my Springfield this past year, 11,000+ miles and smiles later we are still cruising!
That was fun.
And yes absolutely the motorcycle looks much more badass without that windshield.
Glad you are loving it.
Thanks Eric!
I had one the same,i traded for challenger base,ihad alot of compliments on it
That's pretty much my dream bike! I've always loved the way the Springfield looks in the red/gray color and it really pops in the sun.
Much sexier w/o the windshield. Another great video!
Brian & Barb, That's most excellent, essential information from a very credible source. Thanks for posting folks.
Good job, Brian & Barb. Very informative as well as entertaining. Be well.
Thanks!
You gotta love Barbara, always there when you need her.
Always, yes. Usually begrudgingly. LOL
I am always around
My wife and I just picked up a 21 Roadmasters and we love it we took a short trip to Frankenmuth MI. and had a blast on the bike something we couldn't do on the VTX1800C we also ride so keep up the good work and keep the rubber side down
I agree 100% on the red backlight. I can't see it at all at night. Yes my vision isn't the greatest, but I can see it fine in the day time. I wasn't aware of the dark horse instrumentation being different, and that's a great idea to upgrade to that if it's possible. Keep us updated if you decide to try it.
Just about to roll my Roadmaster over 5000 miles. Had it for 7 months. Love it! Really like the color on your Springfield. I sat on a Springfield when I went, and thought although it would be a new bike, it wasn't much of an upgrade from what I had. I would like to take some long trips, so I went with the Roadmaster. I see you have made some long trips on yours. Those are rough, that's a long time in the saddle! Great vid, and happy with my Indian motorcycle!
Thanks Zuk!
Great Review!......as always :-)......Yepp, can agree to this special connection to the Springfield, once you own one. Have mine since already 4 years and can not bring it over the heart to trade it in for a Challenger, which really, really was grown on me. What I mean, if would ever being able to own a Challenger, it would stand next to my beloved Springfield! :-).....What I think should be standard in all Thunder Stroke models is traction control! Just with the BBK, that thing obviously is a pretty strong torque hammer......Stay & Ride safe Barb and Brian, Best Regards.
Good job, thanks for sharing
BTW
Very happy with my new challenger
Enjoy it, its a beauty
Great job as always. Sorry I'm a day late - Snow storm.
I figured since you can be a day late then I can too! hahaha, thanks for watching Dave!
And I thought it was just me that couldn’t read the red panel at night... Nice review Brian, I expect to be turning over 20k before spring.
Nope, I don't think we're the only ones
You two are top shelf, thanks for what you do. Have a fantastic Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you and yours also 😎🏍️✌️
Thank Bob! Merry Christmas!
Great review!
I was getting ready to end the video early but thankfully I stuck it out. Back in my younger days I used to be in broadcast television so I couldn't stop laughing at the cue cards! Anyway... I'm sold that I need to get an open fender. I know when I ride that I can't see the fender but the open fender on this color scheme looks sexy. I'm also going to have to upgrade the power but that is fine. I love the comfort and handling of my Springfield. Another great video!
LOL, saw both your comments. The 116 upgrade will make you a happy man, heck, the Stage 2 cams are a huge power upgrade as well. (See my 116 video series). Glad you stuck it out and welcome to the family! BTW I normally do NOT use cue cards but I had so much to cover I figured winging it would be disastrous. I need a teleprompter.
Glad to hear it's still great after 20k. I saw your video when you did the fender swap. I bought a 16 Springfield 2 months ago. It has 9700 on it. Look forward to putting another 10k on it. It's a great bike. Mine has already had a bunch of work done to it. Stage 2 cams, Arlen Ness how outflow, TAB sticks with medium and Zombies and it had custom paint put on it after starting out life black. After not riding for many years, I was blown away with how smooth and maneuverable this bike is for a large bike.
That sounds fantastic! I would love to see a picture of of you bike! Maybe you can post it in our community page or on our FB page, please? 💪👍
@@TwoIndians hey Brian, I’m not on FB but my wife has an account. I’ll upload a couple pics. Hopefully it will warm up a little next week to go riding! In Wake Forest, it can be 40 one day and then 60 two days later!
The Springfield and the Vintage are my two favorite Indians and having Coastal Indian less than 2 miles south it seems the better choice. Myrtle Beach Harley Davidson is about 7 miles north, but Indians seem more practical to own. Enjoyed your vlog.
Bought a new 2021 cheaftin . Owned Harleys for years,and nowI love this Indian ,not one complaint, true beliver in Indian now!!
Awesome man, yeah not many go from Indian back to Harley but many are leaving Harley for Indian. Both great brands though.
Wow, it's a pretty and cool bike. Especially, the design is too luxurious. I'm glad to see your great channel.
🤗🤗👍👍🤝🤝🤝👌
Awesome, thanks for the kind words! We like to have fun here
Great review
Had my 2020 Roadmaster 6 months and 15,000 miles and it is a great bike!
Dang dude, I wish I had the time for that much riding.
@@TwoIndians I commute on mine too . I intentionally don't have a car.
I have 5k on my 2019 Springfield (same color combo as yours) which I got this April. Up here in the Northeast we are limited in our mileage due to liberal winter salt and sand, and I refuse to subject my beauty to those nasty elements if I can help it. No regrets at all. The bike is so well balanced and a pure joy to ride.
Yeah I think I’m going to go ahead and sideline my Victory Magnum and grab the 116 Springfield Dark Horse. The only thing I’d miss is the music and I don’t think I’d miss it all that much. Great review and thank you for pushing content.
Right on, it is a lot of work but i keep going! I have music in my helmet which works fine for me, mainly because it makes me wear my helmet LOL. Dangit
@@TwoIndians Well you’re doing very well Sir; you’re one of the only if not the only Springfield owner pushing content regularly. I honestly think the Springfield is the best bike in the class; the RK leaves so much to be desired after riding the Springfield; especially the 116. I love my Magnum, but I got the new bike itch and I don’t want another full dresser.
@@JohnJBBoydenIV music, no problem, there are quick release batwing fairings available for the Springfield, which you can choose with built in mp3/ Radio and Loudspeakers. Look at the Indian Forum, I have listed there a selection of vendors. Kind Regards
@@bjornaltmann8184 Well let me go and take a look at that... Thank you for the information!
I just traded in my 2021 Indian Scout Bobber Twenty for a 2018 Indian Springfield in Burgundy/Gray and it is AMAZING! The ride and performance are so much more enjoyable than the Bobber. Looking forward to doing some long rides on my Springfield. Thanks Two Indians for your review and all your awesome videos...keep em coming!
Thanks buddy! I’m on a long ride right now to the Keys!
I feel the same way not interested in all the electronics that I will never use and is just more stuff to break! I had 24 bikes in the last 50 years all Japanese bikes including two GW’S and a Venture an ST1300 and an FJR 1300 but for my last bike I want a Springfield also the price is a major factor as well ! Great video!
Thanks!
Excellent review! I think I’m going with a new Challenger this Spring. You’ve managed to put some miles on your Springfield! I really like your 116 upgrade. Puts a smile on your face every time you roll in the throttle, doesn’t it! lol.... Merry Christmas! 🎄
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄
you better beleive it, smiling every time!
Totally agree on the instrumentation. You don't need instrumentation that takes your focus off the road at any time but especially at night. It's a BIG safety issue.
Same thing on my 2019 Scout with the red backlight on the speedometer at night. Wonder what it costs to upgrade. Also, in cleaning I hit my Scout with Meguiar's Detailer spray and a microfiber cloth a couple times a week. 8 bucks a bottle. It's a quick cleaner , protectant and it shines up the chrome and paint great. Takes me like 10 minutes.
I’m going to check into this soon myself.
I have a 2017 Springfield. Awesome bike 👍🏻
Always puts a smile on my dial watching your vides.. ps name / brand of the highway pegs please?
Thanks! Kurtakyn Dual ISO Pegs. Love em
New here, loved your video style and your Springfield 🤘🏽
Thanks Sooraj Sai! I appreciate your kind words and I’m very happy you found us. Tell your friends! Check our travel videos too!
You sir are a lucky git nice big motorbike warm weather and a lovely trouble and strife stay safe and happy and try not to look so smug ! Lol best wishes from uk
Yes, indeed I am a luck man! Thanks for watching!
I also have no complaints on my Springfield, it also has the 116, with true duals ( freedom exhaust),
The power is amazing. If you ever feel like you’re getting used to the power, go test drive a stock 111, LOL it’ll bring back the memories. You’ll wonder how you ever survived
A beauty refined bike! Thank you !
I also have a Springfield and have put over 50K miles on it. It has never failed me. Absolutely the best bike I have ever owned. I agree on the trim stuff being irksome though. Small issue but still... There are some tiny things that irk me but every bike would have something I think.
gorgeous bike!
Thanks JH!
I am a windscreen guy, too. Don't have much use for a faired motorcycle. What a beautiful motorcycle. And in that color combination it is almost sinful. Any way you look at it we are fortunate to have both the health and finances to be able to pursue our passion. The Victory's were light with a beautiful blue that was very easy to read. A simple Vic diode might be an easy fix? Couldn't hurt to ask your tech.
Like the Jazz soundtrack.
I suggest Blues to John Kennedy. My suggestions are getting Jazzier.
John KNOWS, I want TWO Indians.
I met Him, online when I told Him, "Motorcycles & 18 Wheelers- have SOMETHING in common with AIRPLANES"-
...FREEDOM.
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Matt laidlaw does not approve this message. 😂 great review bud!!! Love the classy look of the Springfield. It will be my wife’s next bike after she is done beating on the bobber.
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Hey Paramount! Give the beautiful wife more screen time on or you might lose her to MGM! Lol Great video and I really like the front fender change! Looks great!
How the heck did YOU pull a hotty like that!? Great video👍
She’s blind as a bat apparently. 😁😁😁
I own a Springfield and have to agree 're Speedo. You have to really look down at it as opposed to glance. But I love it aesthetically. So I run a bar mounted Garmin GPS which is far superior is allot more accurate and has many other advantages. Biggest criticism would be the suspension. These bikes are built for smooth American roads. Beyond Tar snakes in Pennsylvania and road works in Maine most riders won't encounter rough roads. I know, I have ridden allot of the USA and Canada. But in Europe and especially Australia where I ride now, even sealed roads are much tougher. Better riding, but country riding is more challenging and dirt roads likely. You can ride on rough dirt I do it all the time but... you have to take allot of care. In contrast my BMW R1200R has a far superior sophisticated electronic suspension with ESA. You can adjust suspension while riding to soften it cope with bad conditions or load levels. The Indian's rear has some primitive bike pump adjustment but it isn't good. All USA cruisers IMO fail frankly in this regard. It is still a great bike but it is 2021 and the USA bikes are still primitive in the suspension department. But I realise most only ever ride on Interstates and highway 98 is considered to be a backroad! The Springfield is regardless an outstanding touring machine. You can ride 2 up heavily loaded and travel vast distances. I know because I have done it. Cheers
Congrats on your beautiful bike - and wife bro.
I’m a lucky man
Is that 16” apes? Great vid as usual👍
Thanks! Yes they are 16”
What's your thoughts on the Road King? I'm interested in a touring bike but am not keen on the plastic fairings. I rented a street glide while in Tennessee and never turned on the radio. A mounted GPS and my Sena connected to my phone is all I need.
2nd. How is buffeting?
Thanks!
Almost bought a Road King, didn’t for several reasons but am the same as you...don’t like a full fairing. I mean I wouldn’t turn down a new Challenger if it fell out of the sky LOL. There is some buffeting, pretty much par for the course for a windshield type bike. I’m used to it. I can blast down the Highway at 85 and I’m fine.
New sub here, what were your previous bikes? I'm currently on an '06 Yamaha Stratoliner S, that's the chrome package. It has a 113/1854 air cooled engine. I've been considering an Indian as my next bike. I've had my Strat for 10 years now and almost 40,000 miles.
Thanks for watching and welcome. Previous bikes were smaller and many years prior. As much as I loved (and still miss) my Springfield and did many long rides on the Springy but needed something more suited for travel so I went with the Challenger. Based on your miles on the Strat it seems like you’re riding around town more than travel so I’d say the Springfield would be great for you
Nice!
You are a lucky man sir! She's a good woman.
Yeah, I have to beg her almost daily not to trade me in.😎😉
That’s a gorgeous bike
She’s not bad either haha
I fell for the get a new bike hun, ye I got a Chief Vintage😊 " plus a new kitchen and bathroom🤔" Hi Barbra.
LOL, actually I got the kitchen first, then the bike haha
Hi Chris. Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to you two and your family, 👍 Lets hope 2021 is good for all of us.
I bought a black and desert tan. Do you find buffeting to be an issue? I had a road glide Cvo lost in hurricane last year. Im 6’3 ? Thoughts?
Yeah the wind buffeting was something I got used to but no doubt it’s a real thing. The wind actually comes from the lower forks and rushes up the side of the tank. If you put your hand next to the tank while you’re riding you can feel the difference. A lot of people buy fork wind deflectors and I hear it really helps. I just sold the Springfield BTW. I now ride a Challenger. Oh, the dirt track tan is a gorgeous color.
Is your bike a 2018? Did you have the deep valance fender, and only changed the fender?, or did you also change wheel, brake & tire?
Correct, it is a 2018 model. I did replace the front fender the wheel and tire and I added the war bonnet from the Indian Challenger. If you look through our video library you will see a lot of content on that. Thanks for watching!
Great review of an absolutely gorgeous motorcycle #imw
Thabks CDL!
I love the news Front Fender ...
I can’t imagine it without it. Thanks!
Sweet Jesus! You definitely USE that bike!
Do you have engine noise? Like a whine and small chatter?
Yeah I get a little valve noise but that’s it
I remember your Iron Butt challenge, so brutal but you made it. Is that a boat horn I see on the bike? I bet that gets cager's attention for sure. Ride on, be safe.
That's a BUffalo Bbrand CO horn, made specifically for Indian models. Bad to the bone.
Which Iron Butt video. Oh my you should see the series I did for the Bun Burner Gold!
@@TwoIndians I think it was your first one. I haven't seen Bun Burner Gold, will have to check it out.
Hi Brian, what height did U get on the light grey Freedom Windshield upgrade?
Good question. That’s a 12” but I just ordered a 14” and will be reviewing both soon, comparing the difference between those and stock.
Oh, one last thing, it’s actually a medium gray tint
Love my 2016 Springfield too. A little less than 14k on mine and no issues. Just wondering where you got the open front fender from? Thank you. Ride safe.
Hey thanks Alton! Got the fender from the dealer a little over a year ago (along with the 19” wheel and tire). You can buy them in all the available colors. I put the Challenger war bonnet on my self and I have videos for both on this channel.
Ok. Thank you. I just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to checking out your videos.
Right on man! Thanks! Have lots of really good and really bad videos. Hahaha
What size tire and what fender manufacturer
That’s a factory fender with a factory 19” wheel.
Was the 116 an option?
It wasn’t an option when I bought it but they offered it as an upgrade shortly after. You tear the motor apart and rebuild it essentially. Now you can get it when you buy a Dark Horse or limited model.
Two reasons why my wife and I didn’t purchase an Indian was the fact that we ride to up all the time and every Indian on the floor is a softail meaning mono shock. The other problem is the fact that they all have handlebars that lay down towards the driver even yours do I noticed with their ape hangers And I don’t like that look at all so it was off to the Harley dealer for me. I will say this one thing though I wish I had the overall experience that you’ve had with your Indian because my Harley was in need of attention roughly every 10,000 miles so far.
On the handle bars, they are adjustable and I’ve had them in several positions. They’re currently raised on the Springfield because I’m using it mainly for short hops around town. As far as two up riding goes the mono shock can handle up to 650lbs of riders’ weight without bottoming out in most reasonable conditions. I know a fairly heavy couple on a Roadmaster that have ridden all over the county with no issues. Not to make an argument about it but Harleys shocks are than usable. It’s the first thing most people change on their bike. Conversely the zindian mono shock (by Fox) makes for the most comfortable ride, period. My buddy has a new CVO and he still says it’s nowhere near as smooth a ride as Indian. I get it though, HD has the market cornered on historic and legendary bikes. I wouldn’t mind having a vintage pan head myself. Thanks for watching. Check out our travel content even if Indian isn’t your thing! Peace!
You’ve de-catted your bike, correct? I haven’t done that to mine and during the summer it will toast my boys. Still love it tho and want no other cruiser.
I put on a 2:1 system by Freedom Performance, couple videos on this channel about that. 😉😎
Since the team from Kawasaki Vulcan Drifter were a big part behind Indian's rebirth - for the price, the Springfield should be hard to stop. It should last. Like the music I hope to make, something weird of a business - I make a theme for a person. That's right. Not a song, a theme tune.
How about some owners are complaining about excessive heat ?any comments?
Here are my thoughts on that. Does the motor put out heat? Yes. All motors do. I don’t think it’s greater than anything else I’ve ever ridden and I chalk it up to the fact that most of the comments seem to come from new riders.
how do you know other brands are having finishing problems?
Because I have multiple friends with another brand who’s front forks are pitted and corroded after a year and the manufacturer says it’s normal wear. They are not happy. $25k bike and the parts are corroding already.
@@TwoIndians having friends with all these brands, is nice. Now how many rested their own masterpiece full of aftermarket parts, which may or may not have caused many problems that a stock bike may not have had if left alone?
The finish on the forks corrodes. It’s not a secret that this is a common problem with HD. It’s not a problem on Indian, that’s all I’m saying.
@@TwoIndians oh that bike had a chrome finish. HD has a protective coating on the non chrome or black finishes. If you don’t properly wash the damn bike, your gonna damage that protected finish. Stop using the cheapest dish detergent to wash your bike. And stop leaving road crap on it. I got my bike September 23, 2016 , and it’s left in a car park. Wash it , cover it, and don’t let crap sit on the finish.
This is my dream bike. You're doing nothing but selling me on it. So now I'll be whining even more to my hubby.
I've found it get more of what I want when she gets more of what she wants, it's the great circle of giving. :)
Hello Brian I've asked before and maybe you forgot but, what about the valve tappet sound?
Minimal on my bike IMO, not sure if you’re asking about my bike or just in general.
@@TwoIndians No Brian I'm talking about the thunderstroke in general. I have the 111 and the mech's. say it is normal but I have never heard this on another bike. P.S. I've been riding for over 50 years.
So long answer would be yes, I believe there is a known tapping sound that does sound like a pushrod or valve tappet noise typical for all Indian 111s. I don’t find it any more bothersome that anything HD has put out but it’s certainly not as quiet as a Goldwing. My buddy rides a BMW R1200 and it’s about the same as far as engine noise goes. IMO. There’s give and take for everything right?
Wow what a wife
She’s sumthin!
Am I the only one that sees the wiring fixing to get sucked into the belt?
LOL, it’s been hanging there for two years, strategically placed my friend. ✌️😎
How’s that loose nut holding the handlebars??? 😂😂
Typically loose and well lubricated. 😎✌️🤪
The loose part I believe, and I guess you’re well lubricated I’ve seen some of your pictures. Its still a good looking bike for all the miles you put on it. I don’t think I can do that any more. I think 400 miles a day. Probably gonna be my limit . But I Applaud you for the 1500 mile Iron butt you you did . Take care my well oiled friend....😎👍
16 Springfield. 50k miles. 2 ECMs, 1 wheel speed sensor, 3 v regs and now I need a stator. Goodbye Indian
where do source wives like Barbara !?
LOL, I got lucky
Don't upset your wife after all she brought you that bike..
Pitting on the lowers?? What *cough ‘Harley’ cough* brand could that be??
LOL! I ride with a guy that has a two year old RG and his forks look awful. He has less than 10k miles on his bike and keeps it spotless.
U guy's pooping money?
LOL, we have a money tree out back. not. 😁