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Thank you Tim for having Patrick Coffin on. He is a voice of reason with lots of humility. God Bless
AGREED! ♥️🙏🏼
Love listening to Patrick Coffin👍
I’ve always liked Patrick. My wife and I went on a pilgrimage with him to Italy in 2018 and he was awesome to hang with.
Always great to listen to Patrick Coffin. A terrific speaker, whom I never tire of.
Prayers for Russell Brand conversion to the Faith 🙏🙏🙏🌹
Love Russell Brand. Didn’t realize he’s checking out scripture + rosary. Fantastic news
I've been praying for him for years
He is controlled opposition -- a member of the ruling cult (aka synagogue of satan as Jesus described them). And he is a female -- elite jenn door inversion.
🙏🏼♥️
Patrick Coffin is based!!!
Thanks so much for sharing!!
Love Patrick Coffin and Ed Mazza on your show.
Appreciate the sincere friendship and conversation.
PATRICK,YOU SAY IT RIGHT.
These are always my favorite shows here, keep up the great interviews, and congrats on 50K! +++
I'm an avid listener to your show Tim, I am also an SSPX attendee, so it won't surprise you that I'm more on Patrick's side. However my reason for the message is, when Patrick mentioned how Joseph tested his family through Benjamin, I got a lump in my throat and started weeping, which wouldn't be so bad if I was sitting at home, but I'm a stonemason working on a building site.
God touches our hearts at odd times.
Viva Cristo Rey
I'm 68 & I was BLESSED to have a devout Mom - I remember the changes that started when I was in the 2nd grade - our Pastor was in his 40s & reluctantly executed changes. Even at my young age I KNEW something HORRIBLE was happening - I firmly believe that if Archbishop Lefebvre had not acted our Holy Mass AND other Sacraments would now be LOST !!
I totally agree with you, if it were not for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and all that he suffered for us, we would no longer have the True Holy Mass. (I was born in 1970; I only came to find the Holy Mass 5 years ago. My heart was in anguish when I realized what was stolen from us)
But there were OTHER Traditionalist bishops ordaining priests and bishops besides him.
Yes, my protestant grandmother who converted to Catholicism also saw the damage being done after the conclusion of Vatican 2. Annibale Bugnini was a liar, lying to both the Pope as well as the Council members he was a part of regarding the horrible, secular changes that were made with intentions to destroy the Sacredness of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
May God have mercy on his soul….. 🙏🏼
How true, but what we are living is how the Church developed over the years. Tim is smart, and his guests are smart, and they have made me understand my faith! I just never realized how smart the pp who watch his podcast are....
When Patrick Coffin speaks, we listen! Keep talking, Tim and Patrick! We must stop wringing our hands, and do something. If we don’t do something, then we have no reason to complain. We cannot afford to be complacent for the sake of our children and their legacy!! Viva Cristo Rey! Congrats, Tim and Steph, on 50k subs! You two rock it to the moon!! We love you! ❤️❤️😊🙏✝️
PATRICK - WHAT A GEM!!!
SUGGESTION: PROMOTE THE FIVE FIRST SATURDAY DEVOTION. LET'S USHER IN THE TRIUMPH OF THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY! ❤
This papacy proves cannon law might as well not exist. Nothing ever happens no matter how agregious. There is literally no rules and no one has enough spine to step up.
I’m Protestant and was curious how Catholics felt about the current papacy. I appreciate the honesty.
Tim:
Could you please ask Patrick for a reading list for us parish orphans?
Thanks for having Pat on! I always enjoy hearing his point of view on issues.
Christ with his and our mother Marry, daily holy mass, rosary, angels, and saints is the answer always. God bless us all!
This was an amazing conversation! I am so thankful!
I’ve listen to the first hour and it’s great. My contribution is that whether Bergoglio is deemed an anti-pope or not he is an anti-pope. There’s always a possibility he won’t be deemed an anti-pope but if that happens and the church is to remain in the church then it’s absolutely necessary for his heresies to be expunged. It is impossible to imagine that the church adopts heresy and remains the church. So I’m with Patrick coffin that I’m going to remain firm in my conviction that the heresies of this anti-pope Will eventually be expunged from the faith. To believe otherwise to cease to be a Catholic. I won’t do that.
We must remain the remnant and unite the clans of faithful Catholics -FSSP, SSPX, CTZk, Novus Ordo, Byzantine and Orthodox resist the evil forces directing us toward the Great Reset toward the New World Order.
If freemasons changed the wording of our Sacred Mass of the ages and watered it down to what it is now? How can it be valid??
I'm a beneplenist now and Patrick got me started down that path. It's undeniable that Bergoglio is not the Pope. Benedict's resignation was made in substantial error and Bergoglio's election was invalid.
Good luck on your leaving the Catholic church.
1:07:30 Patrick just brought me to tears with this heartfelt preaching of the Gospel - the New is revealed in the Old 😅
Patrick has very real and valid points, is Francis the Pope? I tend to say no, but this opens up a plethora of more issues, maybe I am lazy but I am old and tired, just want to love Christ our King.
Everything Coffin says here is correct and accurate. He sees bergoglio for what he is. The conversation needs to be about getting bergoglio out of the Church, permanently. This removal needs to be done 10 years ago. That removal conversation needs to happen.
Absolutely right!!! 🙏❤️
You'd think so, the big TRUTH we see all in front of our eyes, is why haven't the Bishops done it?
@@levipingleton-cv1fg Easier said than done because, In the world's oldest human-run operation which is the Catholic Church, there has never been any policy or proceedure in place to remove a pope who has been widely accepted percieved as being dully elected. We have the Pope that we deserve, unless you think his presence sits outside of God's divine providence; we need to search our hearts and realize how backslidden we have become as Christ's bride in this world. Begoglio is a destroyer.
Sorry dude. There is no mechanism for getting rid of a bad pope. You should know this by now.
@@tomthx5804 which doesn't address the issue, dude. bergoglio needs to be expelled/evicted/thrown out from the Catholic church. Coffin is right you don't let judas deny you Jesus. But at the same time you don't allow judas to remain in situ. Therefore the discussion really does need to move on as to how to engineer bergoglios permanent removal.
I appreciate your conversations. Thank you!
Patrick Coffin and his witness is the reason I came to understand the Catholic Church's teachings and came back home. Thank you!
always fun to hear Patrick C.
Everything about Patrick is admirable. He is doing an excellent job.
The man, the myth, the legend!
Excellent follow up on the previous converstion with PC! Congratulations Tim for your achievement in reaching an important number!
Great Francis discussion 👍👍
Conversations need to be had and everyone deserves to be heard pray for the church and the magestrium 🙏☦️✝️ Jesus I trust you ,take care of everything, I surrender myself to you 🙏
God bless and protect Tim, Patrick and all their family. Amen
Good to see Patrick again. Is he doing any new podcasts ?
Loved this! Thanks
Great show!
There is on youtube a spanish channel, conducted by good faithful priests, named "La Sacristia De La Vandeé". Recently, listening to one of their conferences, I heard a very interesting remark: "there is " (i am not quoting verbatim) " a remarkable, almost ossimoric, development in the current revolutionary stage within the catholic church: an alliace between ultra montanism (papolatry) and ultra modernism". Regards from Tuscany and don't give up! Joseph Barnato
In my tiny humble opinion Dear Patrick you are absolutely right…this papacy is an utter disaster and that’s using a high level of charity …but being a Pope Benedict devotee I was also crushed when he resigned. I mean the Pope had all the power, he shouldn’t have fled the wolves but simply put anathema to all the Freemasons in the Vatican.
He's not saying this papacy is a disaster; he's saying this papacy is fake.
How can you use the word, "simply".
Nothing simple about it, or it would have been done by Pope John Paul I
or Pope Paul VI, or even by John Paul II
let alone by Bendict XVI.
Take a look at history for example heroic Popes like Pope Innocent XI. Yes simply anathema to ALL the rot in the Vatican. 🙏
Great and important show! Thank you Guys! Supper Patrick!
Very good episode. Great to hear Tim and Pat discus the issues.
One other thing. The development of the Catholic gentleman is perhaps the real missing link. Respectful towards women. Good manners. I’ve met a couple of them usually above the age of 80 and have been in the military and were faithful in their faith or deeply repentant. Beautiful men. Generally can ballroom dance and escort a woman back to her chair. Rises when a woman enters his dinner table. That’s what I’d like to see come back in the Catholic social structure. Men are not taught as St Paul says - bad company corrupts good manners. So manners are important. Women loved Jesus - The original true “Catholic Gentleman.
you're right Tim @30:15 this is why we watch this channel.
YES!!! GOD BLESS YOU PATRICK COFFIN 🙏🏼♥️
Be sure to listen to what Patrick says 1 hour 7 minutes into the podcast. This is True Humility and giving Glory unto God 🙏🏼♥️
This red pill, SSPX, parish orphan, Trad. issue is so disgusting. Christ founded a Church he will not abandon us. A priest years ago warned me to stay away from movements within the church, whether it’s to the right or left. We all have access to what the church teaches. I don’t need you all to explain what Pope Francis meant. Throughout the history of the church most people didn’t even know who the know who the Pope was. I am so glad I found Theology and Reason, very balanced viewpoint.
Coffin is so ahead of the curve. I think (I don't know but I think) some day a lot of people will owe him an apology
Coffin reminds me of the parable of the mustard seed - even if the truth is only known by 0.01% of people, it's still 100% true. Then, that number of people who know the truth can grow because of the witness of those people like Coffin brave enough to be ahead of the curve. This is how the Church started, this is how we got out of the Arian crisis, the Avignon Papacy, etc. God doesn't necessarily work on majority opinion. In fact, he usually does the opposite. That's my main criticism of the argument that Bergoglio's papacy is valid because the majority of the faithful recognize him. That can be a piece of evidence, but it's not proof, and we are dealing with open heresy, not just doubts about the election's validity. I do also think that there is a growing number of people all over the world, including clergy, who doubt the validity of Bergoglio, and are just waiting for a strong voice to lay it out for them. We will see what God has in store!
@@romanslav827wow. Well written. Thank you for your comment
Marcel LeFebvre was ahead of the curve.
@@romanslav827 Yes, at moments and times of crisis in history, it was usually one brave and principled person who stood tall on principles while the world ran headlong off the cliff who wound up rectifying the situation, even if they didn’t live to see it. St. Athanasius, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Thomas Moore, and the Cristeros all come to mind.
@@annaru3814 I think he certainly was, even if I disagree with him on a few points here and there and some of his approaches. I am tired of the red vs. blue team mentality surrounding Lefebvre vs. anti Lefebvre rhetoric. I don't agree with it. We need to take a nuanced approach. He was a man in a tough situation. Even some of the greatest saints like Augustine or Thomas Aquinas weren't perfectly correct on every approach they took or on every opinion they had. That's my position.
Fantastic episode. Love hearing Patrick speak.
RE: St. Patrick's, I'm spreading this around so as many ppl know who can...
Yesterday, about 100 faithful catholics came out to a nearby church to comfort and love and offer reparation to Our Lord exposed on the altar. I hope He was comforted. I hope He was consoled. I love You, Jesus.
I'm sharing this around in the hope that you all are consoled z little, too.
I'm
Fenomenal Job, Patrick! You are great at clearing up the wishy washy. 👍
I've been listening to Pat since his Catholic Answers days. Absolute legend.
I think these questions are good and i really appreciate this discussion. I’m not alone in asking these things. I lean toward Patrick’s position but I don’t know… even if I think I know. I’m not a sede, nor is Patrick, but don’t hate them. Is Bergoglio even Catholic? Welcome to the ape of the Church. How much longer, oh Lord?! 🙏🏻
Very interesting take on Dale Carnegie's book! Thank you.
Coffin’s demeanor is so refreshing
I know you shot this 4 days ago but I need to say this Tim I LOVE PATRICK COFFIN! Please have him on frequently.
Congrats Tim, you deserve it!
Thanks Tim. This is incredible. What a great conversation. I attend Latin Mass at Old St. Mary’s in Cincinnati and also attend St. Cecelia occasionally which is truly a reverent Novus Ordo. There is no Larping here. Just honest an conversation about difficult matters.
Wikinpowa7058. Is the St.,Cecelia Chirch also TLM? And I’d it in Oakley?
@@johnholmes6667 yeah it’s the one in Oakley. It is not Latin Mass.
"Red," the color of our Lord's blood. RED PILLED are we Catholics and some other Christians, as well.
Very difficult subject that was well conducted by both you gentlemen. The crisis in the church is very fitting to the prophecy that the bride of Christ will herself undergo her own death. The beauty and hope is what happens three days after. Deus vult !!!
Love Pat Coffin!
Interesting interview, I can’t say I share his opinion on Francis being an antipope (although I understand why someone would end up at this conclusion) but I find it ironic (and somewhat absurd) he can hold this opinion and yet condemn the SSPX in the same breath. How can you believe we literally have an antipope in the chair of peter with the majority of the cardinals being invalid and get upset over the SSPX being disobedient? The reason why ppl find the SSPX tempting is because they are being proven right with every passing day. The crisis in the church didn’t just start with Francis and I don’t think anything will change until the problematic generations die off. Until then, God bless the SSPX for trying to provide a haven of sanity.
As far as the post trad hostility, I have noticed it and believe it’s primarily a result of people like Lofton who have created this weird cult like following where people have completely bought into this delusion where Francis is playing 4d chess and secretly based and awesome. it’s a coping mechanism.
I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head with Lofton. He’s driving this new post-trad hostility, I think almost single-handedly.
I'm so sorry I missed this live stream. I'm also hoping that when Patrick relaunches his Coffin Nation, he will start doing some form of live chat session with the membership. I so miss being able to chat & interact with him in those sessions.
BTW... Gratz, Tim, on 50k subs!! w00t! I knew you'ld do it! :D
1:05:30 One of the greatest acts of mercy and forgiveness is that of the Blessed Mother. As Patrick says, Jesus, the Christ, the totally innocent and pure Son of God, was murdered. An innocent man murdered as a scapegoat for the guilty. We are guilty of that murder by our mortal sins. Mary knows that. She had to watch her son, pure, beautiful, and innocent, murdered by thugs and betrayers. She knows we are responsible for that. Yet she chooses to obey the Father and accept, even love, us as her own children. If that doesn't make you want to crawl on your face every time you approach a Marian church, shrine, or statue, nothing will. That can give you a hint as to why she merited more grace than all the holy angels and saints combined.
@26:01 Is a key point. I take this to prayer all of the time. There is something really wrong with this "Pope". He is acting like someone with NO supernatural protection from error. If he is really the "Pope" then something is worse wrong. The least problematic position is that he is not the Pope. Do I think it is debatable? Sure, it is debatable. What a pedantic argument is he a really bad "Pope" or no pope at all? The best outcome for the church, is that he is not the Pope. Then we can write off his madness someday as the ravings of an anti-pope. I suspect he is not the Pope, but I cannot know it.
Not just murder... Jesus was publicly tortured to death.
Jesus was not murdered. They attempted to murder Him and He decided to use their methods in order to lay down His life. He said, 'I lay down my life, no one takes it from me." This is why the Creed states, in order, "He was crucified, died and was buried." There was no "Deicide." This is why the Centurion was so shocked that He was able to cry out in a loud voice. "Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit."
The NO church worships at the alter of ecumenism, brotherly fraternity, and inclusion. Yes, a different religion
At around 1:09:25, yes it’s a turn-off re some trads saying the NO is not valid. I only recently went to the TLM (last summer) and have since been about 10 times. It’s beautiful, reverent, mystical, all those things that people have praised it for. But I don’t always go, not even once a month like I originally intended, for some of the reasons Tim stated. I only have to drive 30 minutes but it’s a small church (Mater Dei in Irving TX) and I have to get there an hour early to get a seat for the sung Mass. There are other reasons. To suggest that going to the NO is not valid is arrogant as well as erroneous.
Excellent (and informative) conversation, gentlemen! No matter how you slice this--as you both agreed--we are in wholly uncharted territory here, as the Church has never had a pope who is, without question, hell bent on eradicating both doctrine and the primacy of the office, thereby attempting to emasculate any future pontiff from having the authority to condemn him as a manifest heretic and/or anti-pope. A line from prophecy comes to mind here, paraphrasing: 'When the Church and world are one, then the time (for God to intervene) is at hand.' Bottom line: The time of mercy has nearly expired; please, one and all, prepare yourselves, and your family members, both physically and spiritually for harsh (and imminent) worldwide trials.
France for nine days. Wow. Ive been in France for 365x13 days. Seen people in church not only submitting to being masked but actually SINGING through their masks. Pffff.😢😢😢😢😢
Pat!! 🎉🎉
There may be more reverence at the Latin Mass (and I'm not even sure about that) but there's also a whole lot more spiritual pride.
Need to define and name the fruits of Bergoglio's tree, antinomian, Christian Universalism and Gnosticism.
What people fail to understand is that a vow of obedience has its limitations.
Wrong about the SSPX! The sooner you all face the facts, the sooner we all can start rebuilding Holy Mother Church
Incorrect. SSPX are schismatics.
Jorge Bergoglio is not pope, this became clear to me on the Feast of the Theophany. I don't consider this anything other than a noetic intuition - like this has to be true as a matter of faith & reason. It has to do with papal infallibility and the fact that the gates of hell will not prevail.
I don’t understand how coffin can still talk trash against sspx??
You are leaving out the Supernatural work of God in how He will handle this. It is my belief in many of the prophesies which our Blessed Mother has given us about these days🤷🏼♀️
The drama involved with everything associated with VII is reaching its zenith. What is of man is being swept away.
And the St Patrick's Parish allowed open satanists to mock and curse it. The demons now rule that parish until there is an exorcism.
Where is the faith? To leave this on men’s hands … God will not let that be!
The splits are started by those who want to conserve. Truth is the premise. Francis cleverly used the TLM to create a crack. His synod has been the hammer to finish the gulf.
Unreal. I’m all messed up
I kind of have views on the side of Patrick, but......saying definitively one way or another is WAY above my paygrade. I think we're going to have to wait.
Patrick is 100% right.
Everything about pope Francis has a dark shadow lurking. Everything, Everything.
The world is upside down and is under the devil. That is why we need the consecrate of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Our Lady of Fatima said She can only help you. Our Lord said to Sr. Lucy of Fatima...Catholics, go to Confession on First Five Saturdays.
"Finally, My Immaculate Heart will triumph." - Our Lady of Fatima on July 13, 1917.
Pope Francis already did that
@@dylanrunner2001
He already did what? You meant consecrated. He did not consecrate Russia. He did consecrate something like strange words in 2013...I don't remember exactly.
And he did consecrate Russia and Ukraine on March 25, 2022 but it was failed. Russia alone....and there were no bishops joined with him.
@@dylanrunner2001- allegedly so did pius xii, jp2 in 1982 and jp2 again in 1984. Obviously they didn’t do it right especially the alleged faux consecration by bergoglio in 2022.
Lifesite news has interview with the ratzinger code info
You get shut down Patrick because...you are a threat to Satan's plan. You are quite the intellectual but, also reserved & very humble. Thank you dear Lord for Patrick. God bless, protect & guide you & your family always. 🙏⚘️
Great interview! For anyone claiming that there is nothing that can be done to bring Pope Francis' rein to an end, this is not true. While the Pope himself cannot be forced out of office by human authority within the Church, there are canonical procedures for addressing doctrinal errors or heresies. First the Bishops, theologians, and other competent authorities would need to insist upon fraternal correction and present theological arguments that bring correction to the Pope's teaching errors. If he were to resist, formal procedures for declaring him to be a heretic or for addressing grave doctrinal errors could be brought; they do exist within canonical law, all that said, it has only happened one time in history-
Pope Honorius I (625-638): Honorius I was posthumously anathematized by the Third Council of Constantinople in 680 for allegedly espousing the heresy of Monothelitism, which held that Christ had only one will. The council condemned Honorius for failing to unequivocally affirm orthodox doctrine and for allowing confusion and division within the Church. However, it's essential to note that the condemnation of Honorius has been a subject of historical debate, with some scholars arguing that he was misunderstood or unjustly condemned.
So, apart from the case of Pope Honorius I, there are no other instances in which a formal declaration of heresy was made against a pope in the history of the Catholic Church. The rarity of such cases underscores the gravity and solemnity with which the Church approaches matters of doctrinal fidelity and papal authority. It also illustrates that God is truly in control, and for better or worse, we have the Pope that we deserve. If we are serious Catholics who hold orthodoxy in high regard and embrace tradition, who are we then to go and invent new mechanisms to remove an unpopular pope?
PS..He is awesome, even though I disagree with him as regards the SSPX.
I'm leaning Sede ... for real... even though I go to TLM and NO etc. I'm just seeking the truth and their case is the best so far... but I'm still doing my homework, I want to do more digging. I listen to tons of channels, yours Tim as well as others... even though I'm leaning where I am. Just as I've noticed a lot of hostility between Christian denominations so I've noticed hostility from all caths towards Sedes. I never had that to them, I'm willing to listen, so far they're the most consistent without mental gymnastics. That's all.
I mean sede but you need to keep the sacraments. I’ve known of many sedes who’s faith dies due to reluctance to participate in the sacraments
I agree with you, My family swiched to the CMRI and we love it. But do your homework and lots of research and also into the different sedevacantist churches because they are different. Take your time, it took us a year of research before we made our decision. May God Bless you and lead you to where he wants you to attend.
@@CatholicChickAZ thank you so much for your kind posts ^_^ ...will do, and regardless , I consider Sede's Catholic, I don't understand the hostility and infighting, at least from the other side more so than from the side of the Sedes. God bless you too :)
@@ecclesiaxxi6210 Sede's are so evil.
Just want to clarify a common misconception.
"To square the circle" does not mean to take the circle and manipulate it into the shape of a square all the while maintaing its circleness.
It means to construct a square whose area is equal to that of a given circle. Although this might appear possible on first glance, it's actually a geometrical impossibility.
It's similar to the phrase "beg the question".
Both of these phrases were coined to mean something quite specific. If one is not told what they mean, one is likely to think they mean something quite different.
I remember when i misused both terms. Eventually, somebody finally set me straight.
If one doesn't think the person in Rome is the pope one should refer to him not as Bergoglio but Señor Bergoglio. 😂
By remaining schtum the cardinals are operating in cahoots with bergoglio. Whether the cahoots are tacit/covert/overt, is secondary. bergoglio needs to be removed - end of story.
Its like watching a very good, true performance of a Shakespeare play vs one of the plentiful modern retellings. Some might be good but the majority are definitely not as good as seeing the play just portrayed forthrightly and respectfully.
I believe that the “PP” following a Pope’s signature stands for “Pastor pastorum,” not “Pro Pontifex.” When you see PM after a Pope’s name, it does mean “Pontifex Maximus.” As far as a drunk groom goes, a priest who is doing his job calls off the wedding. If they go through with it, the inebriation is possible grounds for nullity, but it would need to be investigated.
So done with these softy trads who attack the sspx. You only have a TLM because of the sspx
Incorrect.
Have to make a quick correction on Patrick's statement about Christ being murdered. Jesus was not murdered. They attempted to murder Him and He decided to use their methods in order to lay down His life. He said, 'I lay down my life of my own accord, no one takes it from me." This is why the Creed states, in order, "He was crucified, died and was buried." There was no "Deicide." This is why the Centurion was so shocked that He was able to cry out in a loud voice. "Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit." I'd have to find it, but if I remember it correctly, Aquinas states that He held His own life and sustained it, and at the time He decided, He allowed the injuries to stop His bodily processes.
Tim, you need to read Rene Girard. Do the work.
Hey Mr. Gordon, can this episode become a regular feature of this channel e.g., 'T & P' to replace 'T & T?' Why? Patrick said, "I can be corrected..." His ethos is the Exact Opposite of Taylor Marshall.
Ditto. They have great chemistry; Patrick is smart and smooth enough to compliment Tim, while still challenging him.
What was the reason for T&T split? I still haven't uncovered this.
@@BruceWayne-rb1mb Ego perhaps.
@@BruceWayne-rb1mb Remember when Taylor publically declared Pope Francis a heretic? Taylor's SSPX-fueled, disdain for the Pope Francis was Percolating to the surface back then. And Tim was adimittedly getting sucked into it... Tim futher alluded to this with circumlocution by Saying something to the effect of a vector changes in his views Oscillating from one side to the other So that As time passes, the oscillations become less and less apparent And the zigzag looks more like a Consistently straight line regarding his views...And yes, As another commenter has said, I'm sure egoes flared immensely.
16min in. Tim, I've seen that too, people who're based in other areas are very pro Francis for some weird reason. I think it's because they spend so much time on politics and other things ( I do too),,, the catholic stuff.. I'll just say, it's confusing, it's a rabbit hole and it's a lot of digging... I'm just seeking truth (it can be full time work sometimes), and so far that is pointing me towards Sede's ... I'm not one so far ...as like I said, I just want the truth and it's a lot of digging and research , I don't want to jump into anything without doing my homework.... I'm a millennial. I'm with these people on a lot, the zoomers you're referring to, I agree with NJF on a lot... EMJ too (not on race stuff plus some protestant takes) ... but they're pro Francis... and I think it's because that would require a ton of digging that they don't have time for and they don't have shepherds to explain it.... I get it... so the easiest thing to do in that situation since you're being attacked on all sides ...you don't want to get excommunicated too. They don't need that. They are seeking truth, but you need to point it to them and do the work for them on this specific topic as it can be a can or worms and they don't want to make errors in this area, so they're waiting I think.
I attend CMRI, so take your time and glad to see you are researching all your questions and answers. Good luck to you no matter what your decision is. May God Bless You.
I am never surprised at what Francis does. He was pulling alot of this stuff from the get go. Weather he is legit or not....I pray Gods will for him & our church daily.🙏❤️
Where are the Catholics who exhibit both [true] erudition and [true] holiness (like Father Garrigou LaGrange)? Not here. Not an any of the popular "Trad" blogs.
The Church has suffered--and continues to suffer, publicly--from a dearth of [true] intellectuals and [true] saints . . .
Bishop Strickland is wrong on EMJ
Emj is owed an apology. Patrick should arrange it since he aired Strickland’s defamatory comments
EMJ??