Actually Installing a GPU in the $5 Windows 98 PC!
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Back in January I attempted to install a GPU in the 98 PC, and found out that the card got damaged during shipping. Well recently, a viewer generously donated another GPU! So let's try to install it, shall we?
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At least someone installed a new gpu this year.
fx 5200 price in 2021: 420$USD
@@NuclearToastMusic I can confirm this is true for some listings!
the dislikes are from the 90w power supply.
@@NuclearToastMusic it has reduced to 169USD on Amazon now
@@healspringy6300 it was a joke
This video: Windows 98 PC runs Windows Vista aero
Old times: Windows 98 PC explodes with Windows Vista aero
windows is daddyyyyyyyyy
technology is strange sometimes
If MJD got Geforce 6 Series on hand then he can get from Windows 95 to Windows 7 with aero running on the same machine,it's a little bit disppointed to see MJD not getting one of those.
PRETTY SURE he can handle Windows 12
@@ZERARCHIVE2023 😳👀
Michael MJD : installing a gpu in windows 98
Microsoft : are you stuck in June 1998
lol
he's my daddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
xbox 360 gaming
i wanna be stuck in august 2001 :(
Yep he is haha
Actually, I would like to see Kolibri OS
Yeah me too
That OS name somehow reminds me of that tiny pistol lol
Ditto
Ys
Me too
that moment when your anti virus is 21 years out of date...
still working :D
Oh no! Anyway...
Oof
yea
I laughed a little to hard when I saw that 😂
"So, the next time you guys see this monitor, this machine will be running Windows Vista!"
Famous last words.
Context?
I think you should do that video about the 64-bit Windows XP versions. That’s always confused me
I remember Microsoft had some sort of program where you could get a 64-bit upgrade of Windows XP, but I think it wasn't quite ready for production. I almost did it but when I researched it I realized there were no graphics drivers available for it for my card.
I don't think the xp 64 bit had proper directX drivers at all. A friend tried to set it up years ago and got nothing but a headache and homebrew drivers that never worked. He was in love with xp and refused to use newer windows versions, even though he spent most of his time trying to use those stupid, unofficial 13-gig "driver packs"
Windows XP Professional x64 is for AMD64 systems, while Windows XP 64-Bit Edition is for IA64 (Intel Itanium) systems.
Kolibri 0S: It's been 84 years...
ZeroS (0S)
OS*
ahh yes zero system
since i found you during covid lockdown, everything has been better.
kolibri would be a good idea because you haven't really taken a look at obscure operating systems (windows 12 is linux lite) except for reactos so i think it'd be a good video idea.
Lately I've been watching your older videos, and the difference between then and now is huge! You sound more energetic, the "welcome to another video" doesn't sound so robotic, and your videos have way more editing behind them, they're much more entertaining now! Please continue being like this, your videos became much better now.
Next video: Trying to mine cryptocurrency using a GPU on Windows 98
This would be a fun one.
Imposter
GONE WRONG, NEARLY DIED
omg its windows xp,i have it installed on my daily driver pc(because its old)dualbooted with my second most favourite windows,windows 7 ultimate
@@blobbydbob4350 maybe latitude d610 could mine if it supports 4gb
The background music reminds me of the dankpods "h.e.a.r.s." test
i think it is :)
@@joshparker132 yeah
the name of the song is "TrackBibe - Walking Through the park"
@@bokexd3173 thank you for the name. Btw its a very fitting name for the track!
I still can't get it off my head after a whole year
This is such an awesome series; it’s so unique! I love all of the $5 Windows pc videos you put out, just so much fun to watch
Yes! At this point the $5 pc is just a mix-match of parts xD
SSD hype. This saga fills the hole that Druaga1 leaves when he's not uploading, thank you
i sometimes wonder if they are brothers...
hey smoker, Drua- I mean MJD here
Legit didn't know about the Windows XP 64 bit differences. Would love someone to dumb that down for me lol
Also digging the editing
XP 64-bit is literally Server 2003 with XP "theme" :)
@@paulstelian97 what theme?
@@NotJohnTanner I mean Server 2003 doesn't normally have the Luna theme or the typical Consumer side of built in programs (such as games). XP x64 has them added back in.
@@paulstelian97 that makes sence
To make it more confusing, there is Windows XP 64-Bit Edition, which is for IA-64, and has two editions: one is based on Windows XP and the other on Windows Server 2003. Then there is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, which is for AMD64 and is based on Windows Server 2003.
Definitely replace the HDD with an SSD. I believe there’s also a workaround to get Windows 8.1 running on SSE1 processors, so that might make for an interesting video.
whats next, windows 7 on a pentium non mmx?
that won't work, he doesn't have a SATA to IDE adapter
also, did you forget this PC is from like the year 2000?
@@Manny_OG1990s*
or a 286
I am here earlier than that time I was early.
Cue family guy cutaway.
Yay
That doesnt make sence and I love it
???
I would definitely recommend going with an SSD rather than a CF or SD card in this case. NTFS (or any journaling file system) will eat through SD and CF cards rather quickly. Also there's the page file that would need to be taken into account. Awesome video and I'd definitely be interested in both a video on Kolibri and XP x64 and XP IA-64. :)
I love your editing :) Great video as always, always fun to watch.
If you put the ssd on the 98 box don’t forget to turn off the paging file or move it to a partition on a spinny disk or you’ll kill the ssd really quick. Also 98/XP and I think Vista does not include trim support
Michael: Im gonna put an ssd in the 98 PC
Me: Is literally running windows 10 on a 5400RPM HDD
do upgrade NOW!
120GB SSDs cost less than 20 Euros so please go ahesd and buy one
I have a 7200RPM HDD (500 GB), I have owned it for a while and it is still doing as much as I need it to. I doubt I'll get an SSD because I have no reason to.
Fitting that I just upgraded the gpu in my own win98 machine. From a gefore2 mx 200 to a ATI 7500. Got the drivers from Phil’s Computer lab, great resource. Glad you got yours working finally
I want to see more videos from each topic you proposed in this post. Thanks a lot, I am learning a lot of great informations from you!
I used to have a working FX 5200, and Longhorn builds will usually natively have the GPU drivers installed, aero on 4074 works but can be sluggish, some newer builds have better performance. The FX 5200 is one of the better cards for easy aero on Longhorn.
Quick recap recreation:
someone sent him an FX 5200, and it got damaged while shipping. When he asked the donator, It was apparently overclocked, so he tried to re-flash it, but he did it wrong and ended up bricking the old GPU.
I get BIOS bricks, but it's so strange that a GPU can be bricked.
Awesome that it works! I was hoping for this video! :D
That is beautiful! Hopefully we'll see more upgrade videos from you. 👍👍👍
You should get an IDE to SD adapter since SD cards are quite more common and are quite inexpensive than compact flash cards. Not only that, most modern SD cards have decent speeds that it would max out the old ancient IDE ATA interface and as said cheaper to get than buying an SSD and trying to use an IDE to SATA adapter.
He already received the SSD he bought, he mentioned it at the end
@@laurinneff4304 for future projects it would still be good
why michael didnt pin you
Are you sure an sd card will max out the ide interface?
I have run Windows 10 RTM off an MicroSD on a relatively old computer (like 2007-ish, and 2 gigs of RAM) and it was a pretty good experience
The fun thing about SSDs is that they use the SATA interface, like anything from the past 15 years. It's a shame the windows 98 pc doesn't have SATA but even with an adapter, it's amazing how you can fit the latest hardware and the fastest possible drives (excluding NVMe of course) in a pc that was made years ago
nvme to sata exists, then add sata to ide :D
@@bookshelffury that's true but it won't get you any speed over a data SSD
Use pciexpress to nvme adapter
Hey, Michael! New subscriber here. I thoroughly enjoy your videos; they have become almost a sort of ASMR thing for me - the perfect ambient noise for my day-to-day living (I promise I mean that in the absolute best way possible, but FYI, the background jazz music isn’t helping your cause).
Among others, I saw your brief nod to Windows XP 64-bit in this particular video, and it made me wonder if you’d covered that operating system before, only to realize you HAVEN’T! I’d LOVE a full-fledged video of the XP 64-bit development (and all the included heartache) on your behalf - there was a time fairly recently in which that was my daily driver OS.
I know there’s a lot of bad blood surrounding XP 64-bit, but I’d really enjoy your showcase of that misapplied anomaly of a Windows release. Just some food for thought.
Cheers, MJD!
Wait, a video without major issues? That's great! Very interested in the SSD video!
I was _literally_ just watching the Windows 12 video again, and then I see this!
Also, hopefully this GPU actually works...
You installed Vista, but at what price ?
The pc : Everything.
love the new editing style! :)
man, the editing! i love it! i am down for a kalibrios video :)
I don't know who you are or how you got in my reccomenedation, but I'm happy to be here and early on your video, also this seems like an interesting video :)
Update: just finished watching the video. I'm looking forward to get more of your videos reccomended to me!
he has so many good vids,i actually like him,which is not common,because i hate americans
16:19 I love the way in the first office 2010 bootleg you said microsoft would never make a grammar mistake like that. then here we are lol
edit: just relised it happened at 18:03 too btw under digital signer
Actually they used a short form of 'signature' as 'Signer'. Look closely and you can notice a period ( .) Instead of colon ( : ). So, Michael MJD is right.
The editing is pretty funny this time around. :D
Yes, do a video on Kolibri OS
It's a bit meme-y right? I found it funny too, but I don't think it's for everyone
These kept getting recommend to me, I decided to finally check it out and it was so worth it.👍
snappy driver installer might be a good thing to look into for you.
I used to have an FX5200 gpu, then one of our local pc fixers guild told me He had an HD3650 AGP, I just had to have it, I gave him the fx5200 and an fx5600 I had laying around, best deal ever in my opinion, it's so overpowered for it being an AGP card
one of the best ones there is, only better ones are the 3850 agp and the 4670 agp
But not 98 compatible
Yes, upgrade to an add! I have a 2002 HP that I would also like to upgrade before the HD dies, that is lacking SATA ports. Great video.
Oh! Amazing!
Wait, it’s been 2 months since the GPU, the one N00bUltra seen you, was mentioned.
I’m ready to hope that the GPU works this time...
Why swap the DVD drives' front covers and have an empty hole now when you just could swap the entire drive? Or is the donator drive broken?
yeah, he said that the donor drive was broken and it didn't work properly
Here’s hoping it goes better this time :D
Pretty cool. I just installed a 5200 card in my Dell XPS T450 for use with windows 98.
I love finding old discs in drives I haven’t used in years lol. Trip down memory lane
21:06 In honor of Druaga1 this PC should have a SSD installed.
This PC has gotten more attention than I did my entire childhood lmao
Great Video Michael keep it up
Looking forward to what's to come with the 98 PC. I'd love to hear more about the 64-bit and x64 editions of XP, I feel like I knew about them, but never acknowledged them lol
Yes i want to see the video about kalibroOS. Correct me if I'm wrong
I wonder if you were to add up everything you have spent on the $5 PC how much it would "actually" cost?
a lot of money
a trilion dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7 dollars, a double cheeseburger and some chuck e cheese tokens.
Finally, been waiting for this videooooo
Very Kool video. I love the older machines and just bought a retro dell 4000 to run rocket jockey on win 95 or 98.
I have that exact GPU, I found it for free at my local PC store.
18 views
27 comments
43 likes
*Seems legit*
*views* are real views that watched the video more than 15 seconds, or idk
@@x5nash870 No, it has to do with synchronization of the counters over the world. Cause YT uses a CDN as it is decentralized. And synchronizing view and comment counters over multiple database servers is a complicated task. Tom Scott made a video about this: Why can't computers count or so.
I was able to get Xubuntu 18.04 working on my Athlon XP machine, I was impressed it could run something that new.(although Firefox kept crashing on it)
I'm pretty sure this is the first time something has actually worked out. Looking forward to the SSD installation!
When will you do a face reveal?
when he wants.
I know you aren't trying to be mean or rude and are just asking when he will do one but jeez let the man reveal his face whenever he likes, don't pressure people into doing stuff because they might feel uncomfortable
Did you just assume he has a face? That's very face-ist of you.
@@stonent i hate being part of gen z 🤦♂️
@@dinkyeepy i know but i was just askin not pressuring, i asked because maybe he thinks that we dont want one or anything sooo
I just realized something, you're making your voice sound more lively so people will stop saying your voice sounds like Microsoft Sam
sounds the same
Only the error message readout sounded like SAM to me :D
The Windows XP x64 future vid sounds good! Great video by the way
Oh, man. I love your videos. Keep it up!!!
Thank you!
@@MichaelMJD WE WANT a video on the kalibri os
I wish you would show MORE of the issues you come across. I’m a huge fan of Druaga1, and your videos you do that are more loose and less scripted I really enjoy. You’re actually really funny but many videos are super professional and more dry. Still interesting, but I try to find these videos where stuff goes wrong! Those are the most fun to watch lol 😂
So please, love your channel Michael - Please show the issues and failures and the like. This video, and the special clapper video where you destroyed the knockoff version then duct taped it I was dying laughing 😂
👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
Man, I love this stuff..brings back so much. My first laptop was a.. well.. kinda forgot the manufacturer. It was a odd ball I bought off a friend of mine... I remember it had a single core Intel Celeron M, 512MB DDR2 RAM, and S3 Graphics! It came with Windows XP installed.. I later upgraded it to Vista to find it didn't look as nice as other computers with Vista or 7 installed with the transparency and all.. the 64MB of VRam just couldn't do it. Tried registry edits and everything to no avail. Crazy stuff.. but I did learn that Ubuntu will allow transparency on ANYTHING... but this "Extended Life Linux" OS I got ahold of that claimed to be able to make any old computer carry out day to day functions really made the most of that system.. still wasn't enough for the larger Halo:CE maps. Haha
Well done Michael..lovely to see :-)
Why did I laugh so hard at 5:38 when the beep happened at the windows xp 64 bit install thing
Amazing video as always :)
Thank you!
Congratulations for working the Aero Theme successfully!
An pc who passed for every test possible, every upgrade, every software , and now, a gpu for the evolution
I was waiting for this
same
I used to have this exact model of card back in the day, I was able to use it and a pentium 3 into the beta days of windows 7 RC2!
From my recollection, those issues with the installer were pretty common back then. You would always get some kind of error, and then have to go online and figure out what you REALLY had to do to get it installed.
The fact that Micheal had install errors installing both the driver and Vista from CD suggests that the drive has issues. So he did the correct thing imho and tried another drive.
Thank God you finally upgraded the gpu!!! If you ever wondered why the integrated gpu caused so many problems such as low res, low colour depth images or things not displaying properly, that's because the VESA compatibility in the integrated gpu is crap!!! To put it simply, VESA compatibility allows an OS to run at resolutions higher than VGA res without graphics drivers installed. By the year 2000 most GPUs where compatible with VESA 3.0. With VESA 3 this is how you are able to see the typical Windows 7 boot screen, the "Windows is loading files.." text in higher 1024x768 res instead of 80x25 text mode and also when you boot into Windows XP or newer with no Graphics Drivers, you can run in 800x600 and higher in 16 or 32bit colour depth. Intel's graphics however where stuck on VESA 2.0 until the GMA 950 which only allows 640x480 in 4bit (16 colours) colour depth without dedicated graphics drivers. If it was up to me I would have changed the GPU on day 1 of having that PC for better compatability!! By the way your channel is awesome!!!!
Yes love to see Kolibri OS. Keep up the great video's.
The first computer I built from scratch included a Geforce FX 5200 card. I thought it was a pretty good card at the time. Something about being the cheapest card at the time that would run DX9 IIRC.
the black cd tray looks slick
Ugh, I did this last year and MAN - installing old drivers for Win98 was pain in the I/O port! Not only finding legacy drivers which were compatible with oldass graphic card, but then to finalize everything xD
@mjd This vid is a party of recognition, as I did all of your upgrades myself. But I do have to disappoint you on the performance of an ssd over IDE. It did not feel any better to me than an HDD. Kind regards
I would recommend using a utility like Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 to ensure that your installation of Windows 98 is as updated as possible.
Wow, didn't think it was possibly to get Areo working on a P3! That's awesome!
Would love to see a video on kolibri os. Always fascinated with open source os’s that look similar to windows
Jeez man just know you are the best.
This pc is virtually my very first pc back in 99 - 2000 used to play Medal of Honor allied Assault and return to Castle Wolfenstein on it
My eyes lit up when I saw aero. This is awesome!
Are you planning on doing dual or even triple boot with XP on this PC? Could be a good use for that SSD. Too bad neither of those OS-s use TRIM, but it's a throwaway SSD so it's no big deal. Upgrading RAM to 1GB could be pretty sweet too.
A dream that came ture after all these years! Thank you so much for the wonderful memories
Yeah I had no idea there were two different 64-bit XPs. Looking forward to that.
I love these kinds of experiments "what if"
I love the editing
Thank you!
Good to know they already had Norton popups in 1998
And yeah, of course we want to see the Windows XP 64-bit/x64 and KolibriOS videos. Btw you should do a ReactOS video.
Yes, definitely an SSD in the 98 PC is something we want to see, even if obviously won't run at its full speed by any means. The flash card solution is only OK for older OS like Win 9x, newer ones make a lot more read/write operations, severely reducing the lifespan of the card. Very satisfying to see Aero running on a PC which doesn't even have a proper (typically AGP at its time, later PCIe) graphics expansion slot on it, I wasn't really sure whether any PCI cards existed that were good enough for that.
You can actually tug the drive trays out if identical models and then push back in, no damage, does work for quick swaps haha
Love these older pcs, got an older dell 933c that I need to get going, thought about radeon 9200pci along with my 2 voodoo2s... Doesn't seem to want to power up though. Amazing how things break from just sitting in storage lol
I'll take anything, I love your content ^-^ and have never heard of Kolibri OS
Hey Michael! I would recommend that you install the monitor's driver, because this is a 75hz model right? The driver includes the driver .inf file and a color profile. Maybe this would be helpful and maybe it looks nicer on camera then ( i don't know much about video recording, but i think it's helpful. (I use a similar monitor for my Vista PC project, so i know that there is a driver for that)
that would be nice to see
75 Hz might seem better, but I don't think it is. I would keep the monitor at 60 Hz, because it will look just as fine while being less cpu and gpu heavy. Also - I think - videos in 30 or 60 Hz might look better if your monitor is actually 60 Hz instead of 75 Hz
But installing the proper driver _could_ still improve the image quality, especially in older OSes, you're right about that
I would love a video about the 64-bit Edition and Professional x64 Edition. I really wanna know more about development and also naming reasons.
That's the sequel I was looking for
20:55 By the time you upgrade the motherboard though you’re really starting to get into Ship of Theseus territory