...And screenwriter & actor, with clearly no interest in bettering his craft as long as it sells. Spike Lee, Aaron McGruder, & Touré all had valid criticisms of Tyler Perry's works way back when...
Sell out and denigrate your people for a dollar to portray a negative image of black men especially is just apropo nobody is surprised and people need to understand movies and shows are programming and cast spells and emotional trauma when it’s not there guard your ears and eyes
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 I legit feel like there were some rituals going on in that movie which is why I actually stopped. Something felt off to my Spirit
I see his product like Mcdonalds. Not the highest quality of its industry but its not trying to be, but its fast, binge worthy and its predictable, there is a market for it, so Mcdonalds doesn't improve its product because it doesn't have to. It's customer base is pleased! That's how I think his content is which is why he focuses on quantity and less on quality
Tyler creates like he took the oath. He never creates content that shows us how to create a Black Wall Street. Most of his movies show us in an inferior manner.
Tyler Perry AND Robert Townsend did teach us how to attain wealth and make a name for ourselves. I submit to you that in fact they taught a MASTERCLASS👈: Get up, and go get it yourself instead of begging, and waiting on a handout from the whiteman👈 The same tactic works in ANY field of endeavor.
Listen I don't have no problem if you wanna make movies about black people doing heinous things. Just make it to where it doesn't feel gratuitous or it makes fun of the lifestyle that the main characters are living.
As a black woman. I no longer entertain like in my youth struggle black movies. Anything dealing with drugs/ strippers/ homeless/ poor/ sex. This applies to music as well. It’s different if it’s a biopics and I want to learn about the history of someone. Other than that I watch free Christian movies on CZcams. I listen to Afro gospel and more. My life has completely changed.
I'm right along with you. I don't watch all that black negative crap. There are other things going on in the black culture besides drugs, murder, getting arrested, etc. Don't need all that stuff interring in my spirit just because I want to watch a movie.
Tyler Perry proves that we need more Black filmmakers and other media producers. We don't have any variety. Everything we get in terms of Black film and/or television represent either the most dysfunctional or the most dystopic.
@@user-er6zk5mt6u Yep. And he's been ignored by Hollywood for decades. Instead of pushing transformative or positive content, they would rather depict the shame, pain, and struggle of black people.
If we’re being honest, Tyler has shown very little growth as a filmmaker. He thought it was a flex when he told us he writes every script. Bro, we can tell.
The thing is Tyler Perry has the money and the studio to hire competent people to write, produce and direct but until that happens, we will continue getting these crap movies
Y'all need to stop throwing Oprah Winfrey's name into everything including Tyler Perry movies. Oprah and Tyler actually fell out because of his poor writing. If you remember he had about 3 shows on her network and she most likely told him he needed to explore better storylines and hire better writers. He got mad and went over to BET. They have since reconciled but they are no longer working together. Oprah produces along with female directors like Ava DuVernay and Mara Brock Akil and gives us shows like "When They See Us" the 4 part series about the Central Park Five, "Cherish The Day", "David Makes Mann", "Greenleaf" and "Queen Sugar" which was an excellent show where black men like the character Hollywood, Ralph Angel and Remy were all nuanced and portrayed with depth. Oprah's shows and movies are well written and well produced with multi-dimensional black men.
For me the nausea started when I saw Tyler perry studios.... It was downhill from there. I got to the mom's birthday party and couldn't take any more. Eight minutes.
Women are healing and therefore getting better as a whole. People can analyze these movies in an impactful way. Tyler needs to catch up with the culture and create movies that speak to us in a positive, healing light.
Before you can heal you (all of us) need correction. Before correction is the need for a proper diagnosis. The healing comes afterwards. Just like any surgery. That part HAS NOT been done!!!!
It’s cringe because all I can think about is that these are probably the men Katt Williams and Christian Keys were talking about them having relationship with to be in films, etc.
To some degree the market place determines what is being produced for consumption. Those negative stereotypes of black men and women are being distributed in many other ways. The music, social media content, the news, politics, TV shows especially the real life drama shows, sports, podcast Diddy. If Tyler closed down shop today and never made another movie would all the negative images of black folk suddenly stop?
Nope and you're right it's supple and demand. I have to be honest but as a community we need to look in the mirror and ask why we don't support films of us in good roles. Black people complain about not being portrayed in a good light but I've seen some good films with Black actors but those films weren't watched by Black people it was white people that supported those films
One thing about black people they (we) will find something to complain about no one is making these people watch his movies or shows everyone is not so called evolved in life I have never heard a black person go in on any other producer like they do Tyler clearly his work has helped someone there is no way he would be still going if what he does didn't work for somebody
Tyler Perry is using his movies as his own therapy. Which is endangering the images of the black community. Yes he was abused by his stepfather however he may not see the part his mother played in that. If he didn't know that man wasn't his biological father, his mother definitely knew. The issue I often times see in the ADOS community is that we pedestalize our women and ignore our men. No matter what mama does she is always right. That has damaged us to the point that we have a superimposed superwoman image of our women that doesn't live up to reality. Tyler is using that to make his money. The question we have to ask ourself is, is it OK just because he is black or would it be OK if someone form another ethnic background did it?
as someone who was physically and mentally abused by my mother and have been demonized for saying anything about it i can agree whenever I bring up the things that were done to me its as though im wrong for not painting my mother in a perfect she can do no wrong light
wtf is ADOS ? is it that hard to just say black people? or is this another woke term to make other races feel included in our struggle? & why do people just assume that the reader of their comment knows what all these crazy new acronyms & special interest groups mean?
@@mauricehamilton4025sorry to hear that brother. That is something so many young black men have gone through silently. It's normalized in our community so when it's brought up by men its always shot down as if its some kind of lie and that a black woman couldn't be capable of doing such horrendous deeds.
I feel like its destructive and devisive and retraumatizing. Thanks cor your perspective and this discussion because I stopped watching his movies a long time ago. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💪🏾🙏🏾👌🏾✌🏾
I don't respect TP films....his hustle/grind is like the dealer in the hood just a cancer to the community......he knows the black female audience will support.
I saw this movie with wine 🍷 last night and cackled to the high heavens.😂😂 There was potential…it had the bare skeleton of a decent erotic thriller. The cliches, bad lines, dull filter, no transitions, no good soundtrack, and no connection to the characters was lack lasted. Kelly deserved all the good gowns compliments because her makeup, hair, and wardrobe were top tier. When Kelly was around veteran her acting improved ❤
Notice the paint scene is constantly being talked about. Also notice how Mea was literally watching the man engage in sex with another woman and then follows up behind her? I don’t think she would have made so quick a jump.
The paint scene is why these people like the movie. Really? What about content and substance those sex scenes wasn't even necessary I wanted to see them in the courtroom
Your views are very insightful.Objective, pleasant and feminine in your delivery.A new subscriber looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts. Plus I can appreciate your rational reasoning in your critique .Keep doing your thing my Sister.👊🏾✌🏾
I started this video thinking this was just a movie. I watched this movie because I believe Kelly is actually a great actor. I love her Christmas movies. But I 100% agree with this prospective. This is one of the issues in our community, a lot of what we constantly see and hear is replicated in our real lives. We must do better, time to be triumphant not stuck in trauma.
You literally said everything I was feeling about this movie. In fact not only this movie but some TV shows and a lot of our music as well. It's quite sad. Great points and very well said 💜
Tyler has shown he can make funny & thought-provoking movies like "Why Did I Get Married 1 & 2" that are somewhat balanced; but he knows where his bread is buttered. He knows what his target audience responds to regardless of how many naysayers on the outside keep saying about his work. The ppl that matter to him are the ppl that are buying the tickets & willing to put their money where their mouth is. He had a brief dialogue on Kenya Barris's show BlackAF where he explains his thought process a bit among the criticism. I can't knock him. He has created a lot of content & put alot of ppl to work, and made himself rich in the process. Most of his films aren't for me, but that's okay because apparently there's enough ppl that just eat his content up. The question of whether his content is problematic is a difficult one for me. I'm more likely to side on the perspective that it's Art, & whether it's low brow with repetitive tropes or not it has a genuine audience. You make Art for ppl to appreciate it & many clearly do. Believe it or Not there's a whole lot of Black viewership that go to watch movies or TV with no intention of being stimulated or challenged intellectually by what they are watching. They just want to see themselves on the screen doing something they can cheer or boo at.
The movie is trash. I don't know what's worse, the horrible depiction of black people or the ridiculously unbelievable storyline. Garbage all the way around.
Tyler Perry, today is the Ophra Winfrey in the 90s when she was at the pinnacle of her career and influence. He never creates black men in his movies in a positive image just as Oprah did on her talk show during the 90's.
It was Tee Rash. I only watched it because a couple people recommended it so I gave it a try. It started off okay and I kept waiting for it to get good but it never did. It went from okay to bad to terrible. Tyler Perry be doing too much. It's hard to argue with his formula because it works for him but as a fan of film, I would love for him to hire some writers. On another note, if anyone hasn't seen the Tyler Perry documentary, Maxine's Baby, I highly recommend checking it out. It was excellent.
I wish that hed make a movie where in the end everybody wins. He has so much hierarchy and billions of dollars to make it happen. We just need some movies that are full of drama.
I couldn't watch past the first 5 min. No more Tyler Perry movies for me! TP is literally passing his trauma and bad experiences onto others through his movies.
Hope You Are Reading This Tyler. This Is A Deep Time In Black Culture,When It Comes To Entertainment And Taste. Deep Times We Are Living Homie. Much Respect. Meanwhile, You Have Done Great Things. Definitely You Have. But This One With Our "Kelly" Was Rough. You Are The One With The Gift,Skill And Know How To Have Kelly Do A "Donna Summers" Story.
The key is to not let artists’ intentions dictate the analysis of the art. Who cares what he meant it to be? It can be analyzed in lots of ways that have nothing to do with his intent. It’s OK to enjoy it as art and then analyze it on a deeper level. It’s also OK to just enjoy it as art and that’s it. Sometimes we need a break from reality, even if they escape mirrors reality (e.g., romance novels).
Why can't he have one or two people that he can pay well (minus the union) who can challenge his writing in a way where it makes sense and is still his vision. It all doesn't have to make sense but dear God😅
You are correct and the reason he does it is because they wouldn’t allow him to continue to operate on the level he does in Hollywood otherwise. He loves his money and his lifestyle much more than he loves God or the image he portrays of us on the screen and that is proven evident in the body of work he has been producing. That is what the devil loves and God hates but that is what keeps the money rolling in and he can keep holding hands with the devil while pretending to be a friend of God. It won’t end well for Him unfortunately because all the money and fame in this world can’t save anyone from the wrath of God…
@@zidinuovoio8308brilliant businessman translates to, "he's rich. Ignorance makes you believe that as long as your rich then you must be brilliant. In reality he is destroying the black image around the world. Just explaining the mind set of bluefig797.
What we do not want to understand is that being "black" is not about skin colour. It is a dehumanising label placed on us by the pale skinned oppressors who elevated themselves by using the label, "white".
there is no hierarchy in color. black blue white green red yellow....all have their applications. stop the inferiority complex, its degrading to black people
Your analysis was so on point but I think you missed the point that was right there. It’s neither and both. His success and therefore a lot of aspects of his freedom became linked to making money from past trauma and no doubt, there is some cathartic value to that for him as well. So I suspect that a lot of his self identity is tied to doing things this way
i love your analysis you really explain piece by piece what you found wrong with the movie you didnt just say i dont like tyler you showed the good and the bad
Right, namecalling, the physical violence - didn't tie in well into the story. The Zyair character and the line "...girl, move!" that REALLY bugged me, she's your lawyer, dude! I shut down after that. But, Kelly Rowland is BEAUTIFUL! She looked great onscreen and the outfits were fierce, that worked for me.
I want to see more images, stories and films with black women of all ages winning. whether your the 8 year old who studied really hard and was accepted into high school level calculus, the 18 year old that gets 25 scholarships, the 29 year old that sold her business for a billion dollars or the 68 year old that begins a hedge fund and owns 25 million dollars in real estate.
Sister you are a 100% correct, I watched the movie for the first time, and when it got to this sex club, I turnt the movie off. I couldn't watch it anymore. Tyler perry is not a good story teller for so called black people. It was very very degrading, coming from a so called Black man. Thumbs down for this movie.
Tylyer Perry's success is a side effect of our shared trauma. He preys on it, in a sense, and has become protected by this trauma. His art wont evolve, because we (generally speaking) enable him to remain the same.
While watching the Grio Awards on tv, i remember the audience "gasped" collectively when TP was given a award. Black folk know TP movies and tv shows are pure garbage, but he keeps black actors working. I have tried to watch some of his movies and tv shows. The Oval is pure trash and the dialog is redundant (I wonder if the actors laugh at him behind his back). We as black folks deserve quality over quantity.
My mom and I couldn’t finish the movie. We started to watch it, and at one point we looked at each other and just said let’s watch some thing else. I don’t know why Mr. Perry will not hire a writing team and come up with some better subjects and characters. There is no real variety in his work now. I feel like I don’t need this kind of regurgitated traumatic and disturbing form of sexual content in my psyche.
TP's movies give me the impression that I'm watching someone else's trauma response, his whole career is a trauma response on loop. In psychology, they talk about how sometimes victims of trauma can repeatedly replay or reenact their trauma for a long time, unconsciously (in different ways, but same dynamics). The "big scary black man" was very present in his life and it plays out on screen over and over again. This unconscious behavior is also the reason why some people continue to experience more trauma thereafter. It actually affects the way the nervous system and the way the brain functions (PTSD). You can see physical differences in a healthy untraumatized brain vs a traumatized brain via side by side scan. In order to heal, you have to process that trauma, understand it, then train your mind and nervous system to recognize it as a past memory, old stuff, so that your body understands that it's time to store it away in the right place, the subconcious region of the mind where past information belongs. A key component to doing that successfully is by sealing it with a positive thought, like an alternate outcome or something that gives you peace about it, and recalling that installment when old stuff pops back up. This is often accomplished through visualization exercises and/or somatic therapy and EMDR therapy.
Tyler Perry is a terrible filmmaker. It is what it is.
...And screenwriter & actor, with clearly no interest in bettering his craft as long as it sells. Spike Lee, Aaron McGruder, & Touré all had valid criticisms of Tyler Perry's works way back when...
Sell out and denigrate your people for a dollar to portray a negative image of black men especially is just apropo nobody is surprised and people need to understand movies and shows are programming and cast spells and emotional trauma when it’s not there guard your ears and eyes
@@garthyahudahandrews8504 I legit feel like there were some rituals going on in that movie which is why I actually stopped. Something felt off to my Spirit
I see his product like Mcdonalds. Not the highest quality of its industry but its not trying to be, but its fast, binge worthy and its predictable, there is a market for it, so Mcdonalds doesn't improve its product because it doesn't have to. It's customer base is pleased! That's how I think his content is which is why he focuses on quantity and less on quality
@@ChezCharde I agree. Very good assessment of Tyler Perry. 👍🏿
Tyler Perry be wanting to make black movies … and you gotta tell him noooo!! -Katt Williams
Katt Williams been on one lately lol
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😂so true
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Tyler creates like he took the oath. He never creates content that shows us how to create a Black Wall Street. Most of his movies show us in an inferior manner.
Because... he clearly did
Tyler Perry AND Robert Townsend did teach us how to attain wealth and make a name for ourselves.
I submit to you that in fact they taught a MASTERCLASS👈:
Get up, and go get it yourself instead of begging, and waiting on a handout from the whiteman👈
The same tactic works in ANY field of endeavor.
Listen I don't have no problem if you wanna make movies about black people doing heinous things. Just make it to where it doesn't feel gratuitous or it makes fun of the lifestyle that the main characters are living.
Stop crying goddamn..
As a black woman. I no longer entertain like in my youth struggle black movies. Anything dealing with drugs/ strippers/ homeless/ poor/ sex. This applies to music as well. It’s different if it’s a biopics and I want to learn about the history of someone. Other than that I watch free Christian movies on CZcams. I listen to Afro gospel and more. My life has completely changed.
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AMEN!!! I have no listened to Afrogospel however I do listen to many christian channels
Yes I'm sick of BW Struggletainment
I'm right along with you. I don't watch all that black negative crap. There are other things going on in the black culture besides drugs, murder, getting arrested, etc. Don't need all that stuff interring in my spirit just because I want to watch a movie.
Went to netflix, watched the trailer, saw the name "tyler perry," stopped & went to something else.
Lmaooo…🤣😂😅
Right 😭
I did too then the other day my mom wanted to watch it.
In that order
Wise choice!
When somebody under the age of 65 tells me a Tyler Perry movie is “good”, I question their overall judgment. 🤔
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Thank you. I don’t like his movies. Mediocrity
@@emyleewong3600couldn't agree more, then we wonder why we don't win Oscar's
The older people on my life don’t think much of his movies either.
and this is why Oprah stamped him
The most charitable way that I can view Tyler Perry's content is as the compulsive spewings of an unhealed mind.
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Tyler Perry movies are always trash
Tv shows too!
Yet you watch them goofy
@@brooklynbred1460 I don’t watch them
@@brooklynbred1460 Well...duh!
How else will a person know that it's crap?
You watch the content long enough to see that it's crap! 🤣
But black women love them.
Tyler Perry proves that we need more Black filmmakers and other media producers. We don't have any variety. Everything we get in terms of Black film and/or television represent either the most dysfunctional or the most dystopic.
Definitely no variety. Surprisingly Spike Lee did variety- Miracle @ Santa Ana, Malcolm X and more.
@@user-er6zk5mt6u Yep. And he's been ignored by Hollywood for decades. Instead of pushing transformative or positive content, they would rather depict the shame, pain, and struggle of black people.
Tyler Perry is the son-husband GOAT
Good one 😅
well-put....
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If we’re being honest, Tyler has shown very little growth as a filmmaker. He thought it was a flex when he told us he writes every script. Bro, we can tell.
The thing is Tyler Perry has the money and the studio to hire competent people to write, produce and direct but until that happens, we will continue getting these crap movies
"We know we have drama, we need more SOLUTIONS to avoid it".......... Nuff said.
At this point I think TP can ruin even the best script, much less a bad one.
Its almost hard to imagine that he's not doing it on purpose. His saving grace is the studio and the opportunities he creates for people of color IMO.
Meaning more people he corrupts.
Ita funny I just said it's no longer entertainment heavily becoming an agenda
Opportunity maybe, I heard he pays crap. But you don't get to billionaire status paying the correct amount 🙄
Wow, Sister you are a brilliant critical thinker. The Movie really assisted the black stereotype more than ever
Thanks!
I find the Tyler Perrys, and Oprahs of the world sick and disgusting. 🔥🔥💯 Thank you for sharing love..........
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Y'all need to stop throwing Oprah Winfrey's name into everything including Tyler Perry movies. Oprah and Tyler actually fell out because of his poor writing. If you remember he had about 3 shows on her network and she most likely told him he needed to explore better storylines and hire better writers. He got mad and went over to BET. They have since reconciled but they are no longer working together.
Oprah produces along with female directors like Ava DuVernay and Mara Brock Akil and gives us shows like "When They See Us" the 4 part series about the Central Park Five, "Cherish The Day", "David Makes Mann", "Greenleaf" and "Queen Sugar" which was an excellent show where black men like the character Hollywood, Ralph Angel and Remy were all nuanced and portrayed with depth. Oprah's shows and movies are well written and well produced with multi-dimensional black men.
For me the nausea started when I saw
Tyler perry studios....
It was downhill from there. I got to the mom's birthday party and couldn't take any more. Eight minutes.
Omg, only 8 mins in? lol
Women are healing and therefore getting better as a whole. People can analyze these movies in an impactful way. Tyler needs to catch up with the culture and create movies that speak to us in a positive, healing light.
What women are healing? I'd love to know. And healing from what?
Before you can heal you (all of us) need correction. Before correction is the need for a proper diagnosis. The healing comes afterwards. Just like any surgery.
That part HAS NOT been done!!!!
@@cliffpostell508healing from what, what a great question because these BW always need healing from some visible experience they never had
It’s cringe because all I can think about is that these are probably the men Katt Williams and Christian Keys were talking about them having relationship with to be in films, etc.
Probably, huh? 😂
Straight trauma pimping but there are buyers.
Exactly
Yep.
To some degree the market place determines what is being produced for consumption. Those negative stereotypes of black men and women are being distributed in many other ways. The music, social media content, the news, politics, TV shows especially the real life drama shows, sports, podcast Diddy. If Tyler closed down shop today and never made another movie would all the negative images of black folk suddenly stop?
Nope and you're right it's supple and demand. I have to be honest but as a community we need to look in the mirror and ask why we don't support films of us in good roles. Black people complain about not being portrayed in a good light but I've seen some good films with Black actors but those films weren't watched by Black people it was white people that supported those films
One thing about black people they (we) will find something to complain about no one is making these people watch his movies or shows everyone is not so called evolved in life I have never heard a black person go in on any other producer like they do Tyler clearly his work has helped someone there is no way he would be still going if what he does didn't work for somebody
Tyler Perry is using his movies as his own therapy. Which is endangering the images of the black community. Yes he was abused by his stepfather however he may not see the part his mother played in that. If he didn't know that man wasn't his biological father, his mother definitely knew.
The issue I often times see in the ADOS community is that we pedestalize our women and ignore our men. No matter what mama does she is always right. That has damaged us to the point that we have a superimposed superwoman image of our women that doesn't live up to reality. Tyler is using that to make his money. The question we have to ask ourself is, is it OK just because he is black or would it be OK if someone form another ethnic background did it?
as someone who was physically and mentally abused by my mother and have been demonized for saying anything about it i can agree
whenever I bring up the things that were done to me its as though im wrong for not painting my mother in a perfect she can do no wrong light
@@mauricehamilton4025you know black women can’t do no wrong
wtf is ADOS ? is it that hard to just say black people? or is this another woke term to make other races feel included in our struggle? & why do people just assume that the reader of their comment knows what all these crazy new acronyms & special interest groups mean?
@@mauricehamilton4025sorry to hear that brother. That is something so many young black men have gone through silently. It's normalized in our community so when it's brought up by men its always shot down as if its some kind of lie and that a black woman couldn't be capable of doing such horrendous deeds.
Nah he is working with the govt as Hollywood is an arm of govt
You should see Umar was on "lil yachty" podcast an he blamed black men for bw having bbls
😂😂 Umar never let's a moment go to waste when there's an opportunity to blame bm for something. "It's always Jermaine's fault."
It's a dead giveaway that he's a con. woman will give him more money than man so he panders to them
@@ConsciousRebel85He's projecting because BM have stopped giving him money.
He's right if black men didn't respond to it they wouldn't do it.
Respond how. Most BM don’t like the BBL.
I feel like its destructive and devisive and retraumatizing. Thanks cor your perspective and this discussion because I stopped watching his movies a long time ago. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💪🏾🙏🏾👌🏾✌🏾
Church/Christianity always is tied to perverted sex...I've always wondered why🤔
I don't respect TP films....his hustle/grind is like the dealer in the hood just a cancer to the community......he knows the black female audience will support.
where are the good black male filmmkers??? why are they not making the movies you want to watch???
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No respect. Standing knee deep in the blood of your own people for a dollar.... That is not good business.
I saw this movie with wine 🍷 last night and cackled to the high heavens.😂😂
There was potential…it had the bare skeleton of a decent erotic thriller.
The cliches, bad lines, dull filter, no transitions, no good soundtrack, and no connection to the characters was lack lasted.
Kelly deserved all the good gowns compliments because her makeup, hair, and wardrobe were top tier.
When Kelly was around veteran her acting improved ❤
Kelly would be beautiful bald headed! I was not the biggest fan of her wig in some scenes but outside of that she is always looks amazing
It"s really bad we need to break the cycle
Right we don’t have to support and we can give feed back
I agree. More people should speak out about his film making. 💯
Notice the paint scene is constantly being talked about. Also notice how Mea was literally watching the man engage in sex with another woman and then follows up behind her? I don’t think she would have made so quick a jump.
It was a HOT mess!
@@ChezChardeI haven’t even seen the movie but all I see on social media is women going crazy over the paint scene
The paint scene is why these people like the movie. Really? What about content and substance those sex scenes wasn't even necessary I wanted to see them in the courtroom
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@rachael1247 thanks 😊 the movie did have potential but it's bad
Your views are very insightful.Objective,
pleasant and feminine in your delivery.A new subscriber looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts. Plus I can appreciate your rational reasoning in your critique .Keep doing your thing my Sister.👊🏾✌🏾
Thank you for stopping by and subscribing! i hope you get something out of this channel!
He makes the movie so non black people can laugh at us.
FIND ME WHO FOUND TYLER And SHIP THEM AWAY FROM BM
I started this video thinking this was just a movie. I watched this movie because I believe Kelly is actually a great actor. I love her Christmas movies. But I 100% agree with this prospective. This is one of the issues in our community, a lot of what we constantly see and hear is replicated in our real lives. We must do better, time to be triumphant not stuck in trauma.
Haha! I stopped watching Tyler Perry movies/stories AGES, and AGES ago!🤣❤️
You literally said everything I was feeling about this movie. In fact not only this movie but some TV shows and a lot of our music as well. It's quite sad. Great points and very well said 💜
Tyler has shown he can make funny & thought-provoking movies like "Why Did I Get Married 1 & 2" that are somewhat balanced; but he knows where his bread is buttered. He knows what his target audience responds to regardless of how many naysayers on the outside keep saying about his work. The ppl that matter to him are the ppl that are buying the tickets & willing to put their money where their mouth is.
He had a brief dialogue on Kenya Barris's show BlackAF where he explains his thought process a bit among the criticism.
I can't knock him. He has created a lot of content & put alot of ppl to work, and made himself rich in the process. Most of his films aren't for me, but that's okay because apparently there's enough ppl that just eat his content up.
The question of whether his content is problematic is a difficult one for me. I'm more likely to side on the perspective that it's Art, & whether it's low brow with repetitive tropes or not it has a genuine audience. You make Art for ppl to appreciate it & many clearly do. Believe it or Not there's a whole lot of Black viewership that go to watch movies or TV with no intention of being stimulated or challenged intellectually by what they are watching. They just want to see themselves on the screen doing something they can cheer or boo at.
Yup! Bingo. There is a market for it. He is just tapping into a market
I don't think Kelly should've taken this role. Seems like it's beneath her imo.
The movie is trash. I don't know what's worse, the horrible depiction of black people or the ridiculously unbelievable storyline. Garbage all the way around.
In any other culture movies like Tyler Perry's would have eventually bombed.
Because even they get bored.😕
Can we say that he did not go to school for filmmaking and screenwriting?
It was horrible. I can't believe a married woman did that sex scene
Whaatttt! U talking about Kelly? I haven't watched a Tyler perry flick in yrs
@@nubianking4203 yes
All famous black folks are married to black.
I mean non-black !
So? She’s an actor.
He had Becky’s juices on his lips and tongue and Mea had no problem tasting it.
eeewwwww, groos! lol. I thought of that, too. Dang, Kelly still playing second fiddle.
Yes my thoughts too I was like she going back in there after this girl was riding 😮
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You nailed this review…my thoughts exactly. 😤
Is that the best movie role Kelly Roland could have done?
I love your content keep up the good work
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Tyler Perry, today is the Ophra Winfrey in the 90s when she was at the pinnacle of her career and influence. He never creates black men in his movies in a positive image just as Oprah did on her talk show during the 90's.
That _Boondocks_ episode said it all about how I feel about TP's movies. But yes, I do respect hisbfrind and his success however.
It was Tee Rash. I only watched it because a couple people recommended it so I gave it a try. It started off okay and I kept waiting for it to get good but it never did. It went from okay to bad to terrible. Tyler Perry be doing too much. It's hard to argue with his formula because it works for him but as a fan of film, I would love for him to hire some writers.
On another note, if anyone hasn't seen the Tyler Perry documentary, Maxine's Baby, I highly recommend checking it out. It was excellent.
You plan on cussing out those people who recommended it to you, right?🤣
@@patriciacoley3801 Already done.
This movie is more scarier than a horror movie
Even though I don't watch his movies, I kinda want to watch this now! 😅
You are not missing anything and you can just watch a spoiler review of the movie on youtube. It was very predictable as his movies usually are.
It was gross.
It's stupid if you are a critical thinker you won't like this movie good luck
I wish that hed make a movie where in the end everybody wins. He has so much hierarchy and billions of dollars to make it happen. We just need some movies that are full of drama.
I think its possible to show drama and also recovery! Like people CAN recover from trauma and overcome it!
@@ChezCharde This!
I couldn’t even finish the trailer.
Thank you for your objectivity Queen! 👑
To reinforce stereotypes . That's how he stays on top
I couldn't watch past the first 5 min. No more Tyler Perry movies for me!
TP is literally passing his trauma and bad experiences onto others through his movies.
I really appreciate this commentary. Something about this move had me feeling uneasy. You hit the nail on the head. ❤
Thank you for reviewing this HOT mess 🖤
We can't wait for you to do black tea .
Hope You Are Reading This Tyler. This Is A Deep Time In Black Culture,When It Comes To Entertainment And Taste. Deep Times We Are Living Homie. Much Respect. Meanwhile, You Have Done Great Things. Definitely You Have. But This One With Our "Kelly" Was Rough. You Are The One With The Gift,Skill And Know How To Have Kelly Do A "Donna Summers" Story.
I have an idea! This movie should have been about a radioactive super croc from Florida, raised by a black girl, who inspired him to become a hero!
Just a suggestion. Your music is drowning your voice out at times.
I watched it and I didn't think it no worse than any Tubi movie I've watched. I didn't find it as horrible as I've been hearing.
Bless you! God bless you! This was an excellent in-depth review. Sisters like you give me hope. You don't fall for Tyler's movie trauma porn!
The key is to not let artists’ intentions dictate the analysis of the art. Who cares what he meant it to be? It can be analyzed in lots of ways that have nothing to do with his intent.
It’s OK to enjoy it as art and then analyze it on a deeper level. It’s also OK to just enjoy it as art and that’s it. Sometimes we need a break from reality, even if they escape mirrors reality (e.g., romance novels).
I love your view on this topic
Love your channel! Keep up the great work! 🎥👍🏽❤️
Mea Culpa is my next must see movie. I want to see what Tyler Perry does with AI as opposed to this movie.😂
Why can't he have one or two people that he can pay well (minus the union) who can challenge his writing in a way where it makes sense and is still his vision. It all doesn't have to make sense but dear God😅
Have to feed the beast to maintain the beast
That was the EXACT moment I cut the movie off too. It was disgusting
Oh wow!
You are correct and the reason he does it is because they wouldn’t allow him to continue to operate on the level he does in Hollywood otherwise. He loves his money and his lifestyle much more than he loves God or the image he portrays of us on the screen and that is proven evident in the body of work he has been producing. That is what the devil loves and God hates but that is what keeps the money rolling in and he can keep holding hands with the devil while pretending to be a friend of God. It won’t end well for Him unfortunately because all the money and fame in this world can’t save anyone from the wrath of God…
Phew you came with Fire! I wish nothing but the best but I do know God don't play. He is merciful, but can't no one play HIM a fool!
Tyler Perry is a brilliant businessman, but at what costs to the black community?
Theres nothing brilliant about him except his bald head
@@zidinuovoio8308brilliant businessman translates to, "he's rich. Ignorance makes you believe that as long as your rich then you must be brilliant. In reality he is destroying the black image around the world. Just explaining the mind set of bluefig797.
@@zidinuovoio8308 Anyone who consistently makes millions from this types of work is brilliant, indeed! 👏🏾
No lies told
What we do not want to understand is that being "black" is not about skin colour. It is a dehumanising label placed on us by the pale skinned oppressors who elevated themselves by using the label, "white".
Exactly
Facts
there is no hierarchy in color. black blue white green red yellow....all have their applications. stop the inferiority complex, its degrading to black people
That’s not the issue here. Stick to the point.
@@princeinyang6257 Isn't it? Go back to sleep.
Your analysis was so on point but I think you missed the point that was right there. It’s neither and both. His success and therefore a lot of aspects of his freedom became linked to making money from past trauma and no doubt, there is some cathartic value to that for him as well. So I suspect that a lot of his self identity is tied to doing things this way
i love your analysis you really explain piece by piece what you found wrong with the movie you didnt just say i dont like tyler you showed the good and the bad
Right, namecalling, the physical violence - didn't tie in well into the story. The Zyair character and the line "...girl, move!" that REALLY bugged me, she's your lawyer, dude! I shut down after that. But, Kelly Rowland is BEAUTIFUL! She looked great onscreen and the outfits were fierce, that worked for me.
Awesome analysis!💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
I’m with you!! I couldn’t finish it was AWFUL!!!
Nice music at the end. That would be great intro music
The only and I mean only Tyler Perry movie I liked was The Family That Preys. That’s it. I couldn’t get into the other movies and even his plays🤷🏽♂️
Yes! That movie is sooooo good. His BEST work!
@@divastyle05 yes I definitely agree.
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the entertainment industry rewards him.
I want to see more images, stories and films with black women of all ages winning. whether your the 8 year old who studied really hard and was accepted into high school level calculus, the 18 year old that gets 25 scholarships, the 29 year old that sold her business for a billion dollars or the 68 year old that begins a hedge fund and owns 25 million dollars in real estate.
Sister you are a 100% correct, I watched the movie for the first time, and when it got to this sex club, I turnt the movie off. I couldn't watch it anymore. Tyler perry is not a good story teller for so called black people. It was very very degrading, coming from a so called Black man. Thumbs down for this movie.
Tylyer Perry's success is a side effect of our shared trauma. He preys on it, in a sense, and has become protected by this trauma. His art wont evolve, because we (generally speaking) enable him to remain the same.
Yeah I'm not a fan of a lot of his filmz but a respect his will to get the job done.
While watching the Grio Awards on tv, i remember the audience "gasped" collectively when TP was given a award. Black folk know TP movies and tv shows are pure garbage, but he keeps black actors working. I have tried to watch some of his movies and tv shows. The Oval is pure trash and the dialog is redundant (I wonder if the actors laugh at him behind his back). We as black folks deserve quality over quantity.
My mom and I couldn’t finish the movie. We started to watch it, and at one point we looked at each other and just said let’s watch some thing else. I don’t know why Mr. Perry will not hire a writing team and come up with some better subjects and characters. There is no real variety in his work now. I feel like I don’t need this kind of regurgitated traumatic and disturbing form of sexual content in my psyche.
TP's movies give me the impression that I'm watching someone else's trauma response, his whole career is a trauma response on loop.
In psychology, they talk about how sometimes victims of trauma can repeatedly replay or reenact their trauma for a long time, unconsciously (in different ways, but same dynamics). The "big scary black man" was very present in his life and it plays out on screen over and over again. This unconscious behavior is also the reason why some people continue to experience more trauma thereafter. It actually affects the way the nervous system and the way the brain functions (PTSD). You can see physical differences in a healthy untraumatized brain vs a traumatized brain via side by side scan.
In order to heal, you have to process that trauma, understand it, then train your mind and nervous system to recognize it as a past memory, old stuff, so that your body understands that it's time to store it away in the right place, the subconcious region of the mind where past information belongs. A key component to doing that successfully is by sealing it with a positive thought, like an alternate outcome or something that gives you peace about it, and recalling that installment when old stuff pops back up. This is often accomplished through visualization exercises and/or somatic therapy and EMDR therapy.
Everybody thinks it’s horrible Tyler‼️
Great Vid ❤❤
Thanks!
I caught the last 15 minutes of the movie and could tell right away how bad it was
The movie was disrespectful to Black people
I was not a fan at all
This makes so much sense why his movies have always triggered me.
My mother was the one who broke up our famiky because she wanted other men ....its not always the men who hurt women!
I know Tyler hates dark or brown skin men but makes the lightskin men look like gods smh