The SAD & SLOW DEATH of CLEMSON Football (What Has Gone Wrong?)
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Just a few years ago, Clemson looked like the next dynasty in college football and Dabo Swinney was close to being the best coach in college football. Couple that with a great culture and you had a recipe for Clemson to be the #1 program in the country. Except, the Tigers have instead suffered a long slow death and now are being left in the dust. Today, I want to discuss how Dabo Swinney built Clemson to begin with, the slow downfall itself and why this has all happened, enjoy!
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I plan to upload 94 times before 2023 ends, what topic should I add to the list?
Cover the rise of Arizona Wildcats. Jedd Fisch has the team trending up after Kevin Sumlin crashed the program into the ground.
Since you are already on the subject and I'm watching the video now but I'm pretty sure you have no reason to mention my boy but I would love to see you do a video on Woodrow Dantzler... I get nostalgic just typing his name. Or even a video on my other boy Eric Crouch boy did I lovehim and he played on a great Nebraska team but unfortunately ran into the greatest team ever assembled in the national championship and got smoked
And now that i think about it didnt Crouch have like a 90 something yard run on the opening drive???? Only neb td at that if I remember correctly:(
I think it would be neat to do rise of any the "Basketball" schools, so you could do up Duke, N Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, all teams doing pretty good recently considering the football teams usually in the past arent as good as their B Ball teams haha.
Or like "surprising" teams that are playing really good but you don't usually hear about them, so like teams like Maryland, Oregon State, Tulane is still playing really well, another team having a crazy good season is Air Force, James Madison lol.
Rise of liberty University. Which lead by one of my favorite HC jemey chadwell
A big factor in Clemson's decline is the resurgence of surrounding schools. Clemson was loading up on Georgia talent, including two generational qb's. Those recruits are staying home now. Miami and Florida state are also scooping much of the florida pipeline clemson utilized as well as providing opposition in conference. Not only that, Beamer has won a few in state recruits for South Carolina and Mack Brown has kept guys home in NC. The result is much more competitive balance.
That is a valid point. I still believe if we had better player development we would be fine. We are still recruiting great athletes, but there is no progress in their development.
Recruiting is fine....coaching is the problem. Dabo hires friends and former players with no coaching experience as position coaches.....that's the entire issue....There is plenty of enough elite talent on that team.
Facts!
@treeherder2201 recruiting is still good, but it's not what it was. Clemson was recruiting top 3 classes, now it's recruiting 10-15th classes. There is still plenty of talent, but not the same degree as the national championship teams. I agree coaching is an issue, I was just pointing out an issue not mentioned in the video.
Also a few guys like Jaylin Hyatt went out of state and NIL money Dabo said he’s against it and its been downhill since then
Just remember the age old saying, “Adapt or die.” It seems as though Dabo has taken this to heart. Also, this proves just how important Brent Venables & Tony Elliot were to his success.
If Elliott was good what’s happening w Virginia 😭
@@seabell6683 that’s a stupid question. Virginia hasn’t ever been good. He’s not going to come in and turn into a powerhouse overnight. That’s at least a four year rebuild if you’re lucky.
@@RedBluePurple_____________YTthat’s if the boosters are that patient most of these guys only get 1-2 years and then get booted
It always happens at one time or another. Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Alabama, Michigan, Nebraska - you name a program. They all have had periods of time where it just doesn't go well for them.
Exactly! Nobody gonna stay on top forever! It’s gonna be a point when Bama fall off very soon
@@thesupervisor3270and Georgia too
@@thesupervisor3270 alabama is 8th in the country
Ohio state doesn’t fall off
@@jessesantiago4584Ohio St was trash in the 90’s and could never beat Michigan back then.
MARK richt helped build the Clemson dynasty. Allowing watson and Lawrence to leave the stat was criminal
Kirby had been head coach for over a year before TLaw verbally committed to Clemson and two years before he officially signed. Kirby preferred Fields
Lawrence grew up a Tennessee fan not a UGA fan
And now DJU is in a ranked #11 Oregon St team. DJU was never the problem at Clemson.
dj’s been in college for four years and he’s barely throwing 60% behind a top 10 O-line at osu. he’s talented but has never been an accurate qb in college
@@bryce_atkinson1598 Yeah, I agree. I was scared to death of Oregon State this year (and still am because they will be tough to beat) because I thought the only missing ingredient at OSU was a real stud QB. They were my dark horse pick for Pac12 champs. But something just seems off about DJ. U. Of course I’m sure he’ll have the game of his life against Washington.
I was one of the many Clemson fans blaming DJU for all our problems. Very obvious now how wrong that was. I'm happy for him and hope he continues to do well.
@@flydawg7784that was a great game in general I’m from the future 😂
Hey Clemson fans, I put a ton of work into this! Hope you enjoyed it and please let me know what I got right or wrong. Hope Dabo figures it out soon...
No Clemson fan will see this cause it's a bandwagon fan base and I been saying this since 2015 (I'm die hard bama fan) Dabo only confirmed what I been saying. I was a bartender at a pub near Raleigh NC from 2017-2021. They all bragged and gloated and were rude in a way that was obvious that this whole "being a fan of a sports team" thing, was new to them . I had to bite my toung many times from uncalled for backhanded remarks . Many time id asked who was coach before Dabo? At least half would respond "whos Dabo?"
Dabo's comments to some entitled fans was fair game.
@@pryingopenmythirdeye1830 to be fair im a real clemson fan, gonna be a fan when we are up, and will continue when we are down. All glory to being a fan you know
Thanks for the work 😭
@@pryingopenmythirdeye1830 TLDR:
Clemson "fan" hurt my feelings. I'm still angry about it.
Cmon fella, all fanbases have douchebags and bandwagons. As a Bama fan you should really understand that.
As always, even when we suck, Go Tigers! 🐅
Tony Elliott was not the reason for our success. Our offense took a dive after jeff Scott left. The problem we have is player development. Riley needs to bring in his own position coaches!
Should have kept Jeff Scott. Dude was a huge bust and not close to head coach material.
Actually, he was... the Black players had a coach they could relate to. Dabo just plays his unatheletic family members.
Wait tony elliot the UVA coach?
@Himothy704 You might benefit from some english classes lol
This is why our fanbase has a bad rep… stop acting like Tony Elliot wasn’t a huge part of our success!! Both him and Jeff Scott were huge for us… just giving credit to Scott is the bs people be talking about Clemson
Damn I remember when I used to love Clemson because of one player and I get crazy nostalgic to even think about my boy woodrow dantzler......
Woody D was an absolute beast. He was unstoppable in NCAA football for PlayStation too lol
I was a Rodney Williams fan. That's how long I been a Tiger, lol
He was way ahead of his time
Hey Scott you nailed it. I believe its too late for Dabo to start trying to use Transfer portal players even if he changes his mind. He has already branded himself as the anti NIL/transfer portal coach. Why would a good transfer portal prospect go to Clemson when you can go to Tallahasse or Miami where they will welcome you with open arms?
You nailed it 1000% he has that old school overseer vibe. I have many associates who are a part of the 7 on 7, high school football recruiting scene. He has been labeled already as such. Only the kidd who don't know any better or have behind the scenes runners are direct them to Clemson. Dabo aka Mr.Candy is done
Why can't Dabo welcome someone from the transfer portal with open arms?
@@mynumberoneguyNot done today were we ask Notre Dame
Clemson fan here. Awesome job on the video, you nailed it.
As a NC State fan i love the clemson downfall, they have owned us for the past 10 years and it's nice to be able to repay the favor
10??? more like 20
Bro y'all suck too
And it will start again next year
@@michaelyork7844 are got going to reply to every comment I post? Lmao living rent free i see 😂
And NC State has won what in football?
I don't think Dabo is gone after this season. If this happens next year though? That seat will get extremely hot and it really could be the end of ole Swinney 👍
Depends how this year finishes out.. they may think they’re at rock bottom now.. but the bottom can ALWAYS fall out and things can ALWAYS get worse. If they were to finish under 500 this year.. then maybe? But even if they win out and go 9-4.. Dabo is still gonna be on the hot seat for next year. Honestly though.. I think the writing is on the wall for Dabo era Clemson football. Having the kind of drama they’ve had for 3+ years now and progressively losing more and more games can really scare the good recruits away.. the best recruits want to win AND get to the NFL and the prospects of Clemson fulfilling that for them is looking less and less likely.
@darthsilversith667 you're delusional and don't know anything about clemson football. If we go 9-4 this year. It will be one of the best coaching jobs Dabo has ever done. We have missed on 2 five star QBs, And Dabos main problem is wanting to give his guys a chance to coach. I think he hired some of these guys about 10 years too soon. They needed more seasoning in their coaching. Most people forget Billy Napier was Dabos first OC at clemson. He couldn't get it done so he got rid of him. 10+ years later that guy is head coach at Fla. Point being, Dabo us stubborn but will make the tough decisions when he needs to.
And the transfer portal is overrated. It's mostly for shitty teams that can't recruit out of high school. If you're building your whole team on players that couldn't cut it at their original school. Who wants to transfer and sit on the bench? I'm not saying one or two here or there wouldn't help but I think Dabo knows that too. We recruit good enough to not have to build our team on transfers. The little stunt going on in Colorado is going to be the Prime example of why getting all transfers won't work. Just wait 4 years when Colorado still sucks.
It's so easy to say Clemson is falling off but in my opinion if we talking football as a die-hard Clemson fan we have to get better on the Offensive Line. That's where we are losing which has affected Cades growth and has led to a lot of failures offensively Clemson defense is ranked 5th in the country and isn't allowing 20 pts average. I feel the offense line coach and Tyler grishim the WRs coach are probably gone after this year. Dabo knows what he is doing. I feel it's not just about the transfer portal that's not the case at clemson its development and coaching in critical situations. But we will see I'm a ticket holder and seen many games even in 2010 when we loss to USF in the mineke bowl. Dabo has won a lot of games in the past and people have doubted him then so at this point just pile on and watch the show lol.
Your right. Thomas Austin and Grisham are getting sent off after this lol. Also we’re actively looking in the portal for WRs and LBs. need to get O line talen
Huh didn't look like a top 5 defense when we played yall this year 😂 #GoNoles
@@theheadofthetable4246 y'all didn't lead until overtime 😆. And for the record without those two costly mistakes in the red zone and missed field goals that game is definitely not the ending like that.
@@bharp375 the only reason it went to overtime is cause your coach can't manage a clock correctly and yall couldn't guard Keon Coleman and Johnny wilson all day. Also there was a lot of phantom holding and pass interference calls that gave yall field position. Also should I mention yall are 2-4 while we are 7-0 with 2 of those being over teams that were top 15? Just shut up you are embarrassing yourself.
I agree wholeheartedly with Thomas Austin and Tyler Grisham needing to go. The WR's haven't improved since arriving as freshman with Grisham the coach, unlike when Jeff Scott was there and guys got better each year. I didn't think the o line could get worse under Robbie Caldwell, but with Thomas Austin it's a disaster. Shipley and Mafah are having to break a tackle at the line of scrimmage just to gain positive yards.
Love the content love the way you paint a picture! Could you talk about some more Olinemen :)
That 2018 15-0 doesn't get talked about enough. Going into that game the national media was propping up Alabama as the 'greatest college football team ever'.
Love to see the Clemson content
And they beat Notre Dame today with a depleted team and their best player out.
I think recruits are shying away from Clemson more and more. Dabo has publicly put his foot in his mouth so many times over the years, he's starting to sound like a parody of a coach.
Just got 2 commitments last 3 days
Coach Dabo not utilizing the transfer portal is showing how stubborn he is in adapting to today's NCAAF as even Saban has adapted. Losing Venables was inevetable so he maybe difficult to replace as successful OC and DC coaches will always be lured away for Head Coach at other programs.
Defense Clemson strong point
Losing venables sucked, and no doubt he was amazing, but if anything Clemson have done a pretty good job replacing him cuz the defense hasn’t really dropped off much. Say they were a top 3 defense under venables, they are now prolly a top 8 defense. The big drop off is offense and you can/should tie that in with losing those coordinators and coaches
The only era that compares to this era of NIL, is when scholarship reductions were put in place. In the 70's, you had a scholarship limit of 105. Teams would stockpile guys; Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Penn St., UW, USC. Then it was reduced to 95, and then 85. Teams could not longer just sit five star guys, and it was equitable. But today, it's the wild west with NIL and an open portal every year. The portal used to be guys who graduated already. Now, you can flip your entire roster in a year. Dabo is a guy who would have flourished in the 70's and 80's. He needs to adjust, Saban did. Don't know if he will or not...
From a Cornhusker, be thankful for 6 or 7 Win seasons, just don't let it get worse. There's down years cause you don't always have the best players.
Thankfully it looks like Nebraska finally got the head coach right. Especially after the Scott frost disaster
@@JeffBird86 yeah it was honestly shocking how much of a loser that guy was coaching us. Just proved UCF was a fluke
I respect Dabo believing that he doesn't need to rely on the transfer portal to be the championship team and focus on the players he recruits. I am not a big fan of NIL money that instantly makes players millionaires, or can show off how much diamonds or cars they have. But, that's where College football is heading, so Dabo needs to take that approach.
Why are you not a fan? These kids work hard and deserve to be paid, with your logic anyone who works hard shouldn’t be paid cause of “culture”. Just cause you want to work for free doesn’t mean others do
@@kennypowers1945Their payment is free college.
@@kennypowers1945 College is for higher education. It's a privilege (because they've worked hard) for student athletes to get scholarships to help receive an affordable/free education.
Longtime Clemson fan since I went there for grad school in '93. You hit a lot of points that we've seen. Defense is playing well except for the occassional chunk play. We need a much better O-line, Kiubnik sometimes doesn't check off of recievers, and we need to add more WRs. Dabo needs to swallow his pride and start utilizing the portal.
I never recall all the negative vids from people when FSU, Oregon, Miami, even Georgia had recent down years....The hate for Clemson from sports media is real. That's one thing Dabo has been right about.
Cause fsu had a whole new coach, and they were still getting slandered. Dawg FSU is number 4 in the poll and still gets disrespected constantly on nationally televised channels
Clemson has fell completely apart without Brent venables
Whats Clemson problem this year offense again and kicking not defense
@@michaelyork7844the office has been their problem for several years it's the defense that was winning games for them but that changed without venables
Love Dabo and wish him the best... after this Saturday. Go Irish.
Klubnik is great when he has all day to throw the ball, but he is no Trevor Lawrence. He panics under pressure and makes stupid mistakes. Unfortunately, he's under pressure a lot!
I didn’t think Dabo Swinney was going to bring back Clemson to the promise land but he’s proven everyone wrong has led his Tigers to 9 ACC championships, 6 straight playoff appearances and 2 titles. I think he’s been a great coach and recruiter for 1 1/2 years but he’s lost his mojo of what made this program special in the first place. Now you look at the other programs like Georgia and Florida State they’re starting to be a lot more competitive and recruit efficiently with their marketing brand. He may not be a fan of the NIL but I don’t think it’s going away anytime soon in the future and it’s the reason why Clemson’s football program is tanking until Dabo realizes he needs to wake up that change isn’t always easy.
Hahaha damn who would you get as a head coach? This is crazy how fast a fan base has turned on the man that built them.
They just knocked off a strong notre dame team rank #15
Simple: recruiting hasn’t been at the level it needs to be to remain atop the mountaintop.
Beyond that, Dabo’s unwillingness to stop competing with one arm behind his back (no portal action) is just not going to cut it in the new era of college football transfers.
The top schools are auditioning pros, after all.
In short, Kirby and Saban hopes he keeps this “slow death” act up.
As a Clemson fan this hit me hard because it’s completely true man I miss the old days
At least you had a great run unlike my Buckeyes.
Few thoughts from someone who has actually followed the team. The problem with 2022 wasn't DJ, it was the fact that aside from the running backs, the offensive talent was very lacking while the system did not maximize that talent in any way. Everyone but OC Brandon Streeter knew DJ didn't fit a spread offense, but they used one anyway while the receiver talent was young or just not being developed.
This season, it turns out Klubnik isn't the guy anyone thought he was. His decision making is awful and based on how he handles himself in the media, he doesn't seem to understand what he does wrong sometimes. The receivers are still not great and none of them are a true No. 1, but some of the talent is starting to show. The Duke loss was a "bad loss" only if you don't follow the ACC, they're a good program and Elko and Leonard have made them a tough matchup for anyone, but turnovers derailed Clemson in that game, not Duke. It's a similar thing to N.C. State, they always play Clemson tough and when it comes to playing conference games, no team in the country plays up their competition like the Wolfpack, but again, Klubnik wasn't ready for it.
This "end of the world" reactionary content has been the problem with Clemson fans since I moved down here. It's a bad year that followed two seasons that weren't outright dominant. It happens and it's only a legitimate problem if it continues.
The coaching isn’t developing the talent. Thats the biggest thing. WRs and O-line especially have not been what they have in the past. Even in the Tahj Boyd - Deshaun Watson years, the o-line was very serviceable and played well together. Clemson is getting out-schemed and dominated on the line on offense more than ever and have no true offensive identity. I think part of it may also be strength and conditioning. These guys are getting pushed around and are just soft. Dabo has hired a lot of unproven coaches at the position coach level, most of which are former players or teammates of Dabo. While I love the idea of bringing former players back home to coach, Dabo has got to let them get more experience before bringing them in. He lets these guys come in and learn and struggle, but Clemson, from a program perception standpoint, should be beyond struggling - even without the portal, their roster is a top 5 most talented one in CFB. There’s no excuse for being a .500 team when your talent far exceeds 80-90% of your competition. There’s not one fix. Wholesale changes must be made. Simultaneously, I believe in Dabo. He built it once and he’s a competitor. He can build it again. We just have to be patient, keep supporting our team, and hope and pray that Graham Neff (Clemson AD) is in Dabo’s ear helping push him in the right direction
You already said it, with the changing environment in college football, Dabo Sweeny needs to adjust. 🤔
The resurgence of Michigan football, Mac Brown at UNC and making them more competitive again, Tennessee and Missouri slowly coming around, has reshaped Clemson football.
Dabo just didn’t wake up this morning and forget how to coach.
Rock bottom is being me as an aerospace engineering major falling a simple math exam and questioning my validity as a future aerodynamicist.
Clemson fan here, seeing an empire be built and destroyed in the flash of an eye is surreal
After the loss to Duke, some people thought I was crazy when I said Clemson will lose 5 games. Now its looking like they might lose 6-7 games.
Didnt lose today
They became weak in the trenches( especially the O-line.) you have to have the big uglies up front
offensive line, offensive line, offensive line; its why DJ struggled and why Cade is struggling; beyond the fact that it's hard to replicate Watson, Lawrence, or Etienne, the rest is some severe over-analysis
This year bad kicking,turnovers,not great wide receivers for like 4th year now and not great o-line = 4 loses
Bad season marred by turnovers. No chance of being fired, recruiting is still fantastic. Ultimately, QB play has just been subpar the last few seasons. Clemson is just fine and will return to championship form.
True. Some of these stats are insane. Clemson has actually won every game on paper. 6 goal line possessions that didn’t score a td. Have also put gained everyone and still lost. Last place in fumbles lost. Rarely give up scores on drives of 50 yards or more but defense always has short field and is actually ranked very high in total defense. Fluke of a season but changes on staff need to be made
FSU was the same way during Jimbo’s downfall. It took 10 years for us to get back up
FSU was down for 5 yrs not 10. 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 are the down years.
This is not rock bottom for Clemson. They could lose Dabo, drop in recruiting rankings, and fail to make bowl games multiple years in a row. They might be stuck in the bottom five of the ACC in four or five years-and miss an invite to the SEC like many of their fans are on the hands and knees begging for.
Every school seems to go through peaks and valleys.
Dabo will NEVER be fired by Clemson. And I mean NEVER. That said, we really suck this year.
Tennessee and Clemson can’t be good at the same time. We recruit basically the exact same pool of HS kids from the same areas
It all started when Lane Kiffin was hired in 2009, he told Tajh Boyd (who was a Tennessee commit) to look elsewhere and that’s how he ended up at Clemson. Then once Kiffin left Tennessee that’s what started the downward spiral of the program. Trevor Lawrence, Tee Higgins, Amari Rodgers don’t go to Clemson if Tennessee isn’t a disaster in the mid-late 2010s. Tennessee also lost one of the biggest recruiting pipelines to Clemson in the state of NC. We’ve recently gained it back under Heupel and with Dabos refusal to adapt to modern CFB recruiting will be Clemsons downfall. Even if they fire him and get a new coach that does things differently, it’s gonna be hard for that new coach to out-recruit Heupel.
Amari rogers was a big recruiting loss for Tennessee because not not only is he from Knoxville, he’s also the son of Tee Martin, the quarterback who led Tennessee to their last national championship back in 1998. That had to hurt Vols fans to see him become a star wearing the wrong shade of orange
Clemson will be back. They just showed what kind of team they could have been this year. Almost beat the #4 ranked team, too. A lot of young talent on this team that will be better and more prepared next year. I don’t mind a couple down years to build an elite team back to the top, which is exactly what is happening. Recruiting class is looking pretty good, too. Unfortunately for the haters, Clemson will be back. Watch.
Looked fairly good against Notre Dame today minus turnovers again
DJ's problem was play calling, O-Line, and his receivers wouldn't catch the ball when he got it to them.
What happened? They found a way to pay players behind the scenes without getting caught on a larger scale than anyone else. You don’t just go from having Trevor Lawrence and Deshaun Watson at the same time to being mediocre as soon as NIL happens
What bulls-- so go tell that to Georgia i guess they paying players like Bama and Ohio State too just another idiot comment
@@michaelyork7844 Im a GT fan, so I will tell that to georgia, but it wasn't on the scale of clemson
Hey! My wolfpacks turning it around down the stretch this year… I think 😬
Wild they went on to win the next 5. However this season coming up with be measuring stick.
The transfer portal prevents teams from warehousing talent. Players are moving to schools where they can play and improve.
It was started to slow down teams like Alabama who stockpiled five star recruits like firewood 🪵. People were tired of seeing them dominate. Then along came the portal and NIL to help level the playing field.
JUST RELAX!!
Everyone needs to remember, this still is "Little Ole Clemson". Nobody and I mean NOBODY ever thought they would go on a run of 12 seasons with 10+ wins and 2 titles. A bad year can and will happen to any team not coached by the GOAT Nick Saban. This is a small school in a tiny town in South Carolina that doesn't have multi millionaire boosters like an A&M or a massive alumni like an Ohio State. Things just work different there. Yes, Dabo needs to make some changes on his coaching staff, primarily the o line and WR. Yes, the portal needs to be used. And yes, for 3 years now the offense has been garbage. But that's what happens with a bad o-line. Just ask FSU how bad their teams were because they couldn't block. Clemson won 10/11 games with DJU despite having a terrible o line. This year not only has it become even worse, but the team also has suffered from horrible luck. All of the goal line fumbles. All of the missed FGs. The scoop n score against the Noles right when Clemson was about to go up by two scores with all the momentum and STILL had a chance to win on a 30 yard kick but missed. Tiger fans, I know you're upset. Believe me, I'm upset too. But have faith that Dabo will get the right coaches this off-season. We are still recruiting at a high level. There is lots of young talent on the team. We've just had a rough season with every break going against us. It happens like that sometimes. Block out the hate coming from Gamecock, Buckeye, and Seminole fans on the internet because all they can do is talk while deep down they can only wish they've had a decade as good as the one Clemson just had. Don't give up on the Tigers. Things have NEVER been this good for the program and it would be a real shame if we let it go by living in negativity rather than enjoying the ride. Dabo took the team to heights not even Frank Howard or Danny Ford could. Let's trust that he can bring us back there!
Think Venables leaving left a huge hole in the culture of that team. Also left a huge hole in recruiting. We've all seen what BV has been able to recruit at OU think he was a secret weapon for Dabo.
Dude your a Clemson fan I remember your profile pic was you in some Clemson shit
Would love to see you do a story on how Mark Stoops took Kentucky Football from absolutely nothing to a decent SEC Football Program consistently
Easy. He beats 4 OOC pansies and then beats the bottom half of the SEC to get to 8 wins. Never beats the upper tier.
Well, the news of Clemson's demise were a little bit premature. Clemson 31 Notre Dame 23. Clemson 42 Georgia Tech 21 Clemson 31 North Carolina 20. Three wins in a row, two over ranked teams.
Clemson fires Dabo who then becomes the next member of Saban coaches rehabilitation program, ultimately taking over when Saban retires.
Reminds me of WVU when they had a four year run of greatness they had a good coach and a great QB and Clemson did the same thing when they had Lawrence now its back to mediocre seasons
Looks like Clemson football is still alive.
I'm really surprised that Dabo didn't get the Alabama job.
With as competitive as it is, it’s unrealistic to think you’ll always stay on top.
It seemed to me that what set Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, and maybe Ohio State was their massive AND fast Offensive and Defensive lines. They always got those 6’3” 320 pound linemen that could run a 4.9 40. Just scary… That’s why I felt the Pac12 could never compete with them. I just assumed Clemson lost a few too many of those guys to Georgia and Michigan etc the last few years.
I didn’t know about all their coaches getting poached. (Except Venables)
100% coaching. Dabo hires his buddies and former players with no coaching experience as position coaches. And there is his refusal to use the portal..... It's really that simple and it's 100% Dabo's fault....that's why he gets so mad when called out on it. He KNOWS.
Well coaches dont throw/fumble the ball,dont miss field goals,dont get injuries and dont drop passes so not all on coaches everytime
I got one .... what about how TCU went to the championship game and now probably not going to make a bowl game
That was to be expected with as much talent that they lost from last year. They only began the year ranked as a courtesy for what they accomplished last year.
Great video idea and yup, we all knew they would take a major step back
Oregon State says: thanks for the qb. He's not Trevor Lawrence, but...
Oline, nepotism, not recruiting dawgs from the trenches, failure to adapt. Dabo will fix it but how far will he have to fall is the question. Dabo got away from what made him great and that is team building. His greatest strength was recruiting and that also came with hiring great coaches not just “Clemson guys”
I still want to know how clemsons defense in 15 managed to hold OU to 17 points but let Alabama score 45??? At the time Bama was a run team who was sometimes capable of making a few throws. The blueprint to shut that type of team down is easy. Stack the box and play man coverage with safety help. Yeah if a RB breaks out he's taking it to the house. But thats extremely hard to do when the RB has to get through the D line and LBs. But then again BV was the DC then and he just showed the world that he would rather give up long sustained drives 4-8 yards at a time than committing to stopping the run with OU losing to KU and OSU.
Talent what went wrong
Dabo "Swinney's contract" says that Clemson must go to the S.E.C. Dabo Swinney has been underperforming on the field. Something has to save his job
I think the blame starts at the top with Dabo. 411 oit of 414 yards of offense by FSU portal players sounds like a "statement". His refusal to use the portal and NIL in the evolving landscape of college football stunted the program's growth post Lawrence.
He was opposed to NIL before it was allowed, but the program, and Dabo, fully embraced it once it was allowed. They shill the hell out of their players' NIL possibilities.
In the end Dabo may turn out to be right with his stance on transfers and NIL. What I already see happening is less development of players occurring with the trend of hiring "young and brilliant" coaches who place day one talent and scheme far ahead maximizing an athlete's potential. That works great for the 50-75 guys in cfb who were born with NFL talent and attributes, but everyone else will see their ceilings come crashing down and their NFL dreams evaporate. While this is happening, the programs that still coach players, will become the feeders to the NFL. Then, it takes more than wearing the same jersey to be a team, and a nonstop convection of players entering and leaving programs will perpetually leave them in storming and norming phases where they never actually gel as a team. Compare TAMU and Miami to mid PAC12 teams. Those PAC teams far out perform TAMU and Miami despite their lack of talent, transfers, and war chest of NIL money. Good coaching is why.
Good video but there’s more nuance. First Clemson has an NIL program (example being dj’s Dr Pepper deal). Second the number 1 issue is player development and inexperienced/bad coaching specifically on offense and special teams. O Line is full of 4 and 5 star guys who just don’t pan out. Receivers don’t get separation and Cade suffers from those groups not meeting expectations and also having growing pains we didn’t see from Trevor (not ready to write him off just yet). This could be fixed with portal guys who are already finished products but idk if that’s realistic. I don’t like dabo being against the transfer portal and I’m hoping he changes his mind but not adapting to NIL and transfer is not why they’re bad. There’s rot in the program that even if dabo makes the exact right moves in the off-season probably won’t be fixed until 2025
The whole 2020 oline class didn’t pan out. Every single player either transferred or was a complete bust
Clemson’s main problem: Loss of BV and not embracing the portal.
“Nil”onaires can’t be avoided
Portal has value however building an entire team through it year after year is not sustainable. NIL, that is completely different. I didn't realize that he wasn't fully onboard. That is a huge mistake and a program killer.
So you mean to tell me, some coaches who have had a strangle hokdbon college football; Bamaband Clemson, are struggling to compete when NIL evens the playing field
Sunshine went to the NFL. That's what happened.
Not really bad o-line not good receivers and more injuries last few years it seems big problem
Its time to go Dabo!
this team isn’t dead many programs have bad years 😭
There was no reason to go to Clemson without getting bribed when they were winning, and now that everyone can do that, there is again no reason to go to Clemson. NIL is hurting the schools who cheated the most before it was allowed, who don't have something else that allows them to compete on a more level playing field.
What's it really like to be an assistant under Dabo? Is he micro-managing the game - sure looks like it. When you respond to a call in guestion by ripping the guy's head off does that give you some indication of how approachable he is with his staff. Pre-portal and NIL was a different time. Its not that time now and Dabo's "star" is dimming. He may need a woodshed moment from the AD and President at CU. It doesn't appear that he'll receive from anyone who isn't signing his paycheck. I really hope he'll change.
Averages 11+ win seasons, lost many key players and new coaching staff and has an off year doesn’t mean decline.. people are too obsessed bro
Its simple
Dabo refuses to change with the times
Dabo reguses to hire externally outside of Riley (whom i think he still has a leash on, the offense isnt that good, so dabo still has his hand in it.)
Dabo refuses to use the transfer portal resulting in talent and experience gaps that cant be filled by his current roster thats young.
Dabo is the definition of if the wheel is broke fix it
Howd you like that win today against Noitre Dame?
I think a good video would be the glory days of the Miami Hurricanes (The U). Then the down years after and if you think the U will ever get back to being in the future.
Will there ever be anyone else outside from another conference to dethrone the SEC in the future FBS national championship games. I sure hope so like Clemson did a good while back
They had Watson and Lawrence back to back enjoy it while it last
I personally think Clemson will be fine, Dabo may retire due to the game changing I’m on him so abruptly
Good. Fakest coach on the planet
I wouldn’t be surprised. He reminds me of coach Beamer at Virginia Tech. He sees what’s going on in college football and is disgusted by it. It’s the equivalent of a caste system now. You’re literally having to do things you just shouldn’t have to do for an amateur sport. Good luck to you all.
@@deemerwm wtf are you going on about lol
He's not adapting and stuck in his ways, other programs are deep diving into the portal and it's making a massive difference for some programs while Dabo is "Too good" to go down that road, it's literally free agency and he's saying no....other programs are getting two recruiting classes (Transfer Portal + HS recruits) while Clemson is choosing to do one each year...Dabo will be out the door soon because they will want a coach who taps into the Transfer Portal
Actually not a bad team, things haven't gone the right way, it's not like they're getting whooped when they loose, either. Turnover make any team "look" bad. Already have one of the best running back and d line groups in the country. The depth that's getting built is scary and exciting. I'll be waiting for the "clemson football back from the dead?" And I want Dabo to look like a zombie in the thumbnail lol
Sam Howell just born doing big thing yet still gets no love. He has IT and I’m happy we got him
Well,they beat Notre Dame. Still alive it seems
No it doesn't
Tony Elliot knocked off a Top 10 North Carolina Team
Nothing lasts forever, kids. Alabama will suck again as well.
Alabama, oklahoma, and ohio state are the most consistent programs in history
@@detectiveharris8772 Alabama was pretty mediocre before Nick Saban came along and Oklahoma wasn't that good in the 90s.
@@bstove24 still doesn’t invalidate my statement.
Alabama has won a title every decade except for the 80’s
@@detectiveharris8772 I agree that they are historically an all time great but I think that if they never lured Nick Saban away from the NFL they wouldn't be having anywhere near this type of success.
Props for attempting to pronounce Uiagalelei everytime his name came up.
They Hit on some QBs... It was a good run-
Do Michigan State and Oklahoma both of there programs have fallen off a cliff
Do one on Virginia tech
This is so sweet to me, Dabo is a jag. The classic idiot that refuses to go along with change and die's out. Im glad he ended up being a fool and Clemson notices they won't be what they were with him at the helm. F Dabo
Should've fast forwarded to 11/4/23 LOL