Metallica: S&M2 Tuning Room (San Francisco, CA - September 6 & 8, 2019)
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Can't believe James managed to pull this off. Kirk just trying his best to encourage him and stay positive, while he can see his friend is in pain. Kirk is ever the unsung hero of this band.
If I could like this comment more than once I would.
damn straight
Yes man you are very right
You could see how reserved he is. It kills me. I'm so glad he went for help again. Dude is my idol still even at 30 lol. This band is everything to me
What James did?
2:30 yet another Kirk's joke that goes unlaughed. this man is a legend. imagine telling jokes nobody find funny for decades and keep em coming. hats off!
He is. But imagine this: Hearing the same sort of jokes for almost 30 years every single f-in day xD
Lmaooooo poor Kirk 😂😂😂😂😂😂
what does he say? I thought I heard rock it like Dokken, but I doubt he said that? :D
Rockin' like Tocchet. Referring to Rick Tocchet, a former NHL player from most notably, the Philadelphia Flyers.
@MrBrenman let me check...
7:34 You're a good motivator, Kirk.
4:30 Kirk while James is singing and there is no guitars: It's banana time!
🍌
@@mdelposokimKirk: *noms and throws peel across the room*
2:27 Kirk: Rockin' like Dokken?
Gotta love Kirk's dad jokes
Kirk jokes are not to be confused with dad jokes...Kirk jokes have their own flare...or lack thereof..LOL
They always ignore his jokes lmfao, I remember there was one that was actually pretty funny he made when they played battery in the tuning room, he said something along the lines of "you think elon musk has heard this song before" and they ignored lmal
no one ever laughs at his jokes, it's so funny xD
@@malcolmkyeremeh5444 Do you think Elon Musk knows we have a song called "battery". Was what he said
Love Kirk but it's not like they're all that funny and I don't think he tries to be. lol
James: I‘m pretty good..
Lars: you fcking rocking it!
We love a supportive brother
2:27 ^_^
Poor James, he looks like he’s really struggling, I can’t believe he was able to put on one of the best shows ever that night. My first night in rehab I laid in bed and listened to Outlaw torn all night, cried like a baby. Metallica has gotten me through some good times and some bad.
I want to believe Lars called outlaw torn so James could live in those lyrics a bit and sing to himself. Have that same shared experience the audience does hearing it as you.
Some layers of you think about that.
@@admiralthex for sure. I hope James is doing better.
I hear ya bro. Outlaw torn is a katharsis. I hope you're doing well now!
A few shots usually helps 😎
@@dowens3781 yeah ok d
Lars: What do you wanna go through, any suggestions?
Kirk: How about 'Halo'?
Lars: *OUTLAW IT IS*
AHAHAHA YES 💀
Oh I’m sorry Kirk did you say something? ANYWAY
10:19 Lars came in like a Princess :D
Coke
Y4vuz12 100% 😂
Perfect hahaha
Coke and then intro of Am i Evil🤔🤣
Cocaine is one hell of a drug.
The struggle in James' face is so obvious. It's good to see him healthier and happier this year
to be fair, they were coming off a nearly 3 year tour cycle and James voice, although improving in aggression, was showing signs of fatigue already
Don't see any thing wrong with him?
@@sttrory what do you mean
Yeap, it's Hard To keep that belly in place, 😂😂😂 other than that, I don't get what You say.
@@iv-la9529 i think he’s talking about how he’s fresh out of rehab again
I love how Gregg is telling Lars to smile and try to cheer James up behind his back. That's not just a producer, that's a friend right there.
Timestamp?
Krook 10:46 James pours a drink and immediately notices a camera behind him. Greg is watching the whole time and noticed something was up and then tells lars to smile and act normal to james
@@cm9342 thank you. So sad to see James like this and so glad he's better now
@@cm9342 looks more like he's mad the bottle is empty. Don't think you can brew mate (or any infusion drink) with alcohol. Still, nice gesture on Fidelman's part
@@ivonahora I have no clue, I was referring to the original comment
Lars worrying about everything before they went to the stage got me LOL specially when he said what if there's an earthquake!🤣😂
7:00 Kirk sings "It´s a long way to the top" Lars immediately "Why isn´t the orchestra playing ACDC?"
Looool
Rob has more screen on time here while playing Ktulu than the final version of S&M2... The irony
The cameraman needs a raise
Same with Bells
@@AndriyVasylenko hello friends!
But at least he can be heard on the albums ..
Andriy Vasylenko Agreed!
How humble, even Metallica still gets nervous before a show. But they never disappoint
It the powerful words of James himself years ago “my thing is is that if your not nervous before a show something’s wrong cause there’s about to be some heavy or intense? stuff going on”
Seeing James being nervous before going on stage is disheartening and heartwarming all at once
4:30 kirk is like i will take just a bite while james is singing
And 9:12 when he eats a banana
lol *Playing though. There's just a huge section of Outlaw where Kirk doesn't play anything. May as well have a snack.
Don’t wanna cramp up
Why doesn't he do this live?
Kirks humor is the best.
@@aaronmcleland4772 I was just gonna say 😆
There was one time, they were about to rehearse battery and Kirk made a hilarious joke about Elon and they heard it but didnt understand even tho James drives a Model S.
Rockin like dokken 🤣👏👏
His name is Kirk Hammett
@@heyithinkitsfucking hammett up
Robert’s hair is the 5th member of Metallica 😍
200 years from now, people will be studying Metallica like they do Beethoven today. Hands down the best band ever. 🤘🤘
metallica and TOOL 🤘🤘
They will study how Lars will be one of the most declining drummers in the history of music.
@Mike Ockhurtz copying and creating are two totally different things Jr
@@metallicafan416
100% spot on.
Originality, picking through the braincells to create something new is hard.
Copying a final product without going through the creator's process is easy.
@@maparisfamilyadventures2174 the amount of doubt someone has to create something is insanely high imagine if he wrote master of puppets and was like eh that doesn’t seem good enough
Love or hate Metallica you cannot deny that this is one of the hardest working bands on the planet. And they are still working hard after how many years??? Most bands would have hung it up a long time ago to relax in their mansions. These guys are still pushing and pushing til the day they just can't physically push anymore. And as a musician, to me that is inspiring as fuck.
Still get hate They are the only band for my ears that each album are never the same others it's same sound every album
4:30
James: and now I wait my whole lifetime for you.
Kirk: and now I'm gonna have a banana.
10:47 to 11:17 how Greg is watching James doing something "not that right" (drinking or something) or being sad and wave to Lars to tell him to make James smile ? That's Epic I don't know of someone saw this ! This is priceless
that is Mate a root drink from Argentina and south america
That's yerba mate. Similar to a tea, it is taken in South America, it is planted in the north of Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. James's wife is Argentina, from the city of Rosario, birthplace, for example of Messi.
Amo como se asustan con un poquito de mate.
@@NiqoMartin What is yerba? An alcohol?
@@kaan3874 ya lo explique
9:12 kirk Finally gets to eat his Banana 🍌 from The Some Kinda Monster Doc.
I’m sure Kirk secretly loves bananas 🍌 being that San Francisco boy he is
@@mikestein1024 or now living on Hawaii he maybe even have a Banana tree in his garden xD
"kirk, how many banana you wanna eat?" - kirk: "yes." and 6:23
That's a deep cut
PLAYLIST:
0:35 - For whom the bell tolls
3:10 - The Outlaw Torn
8:51 - The Unforgiven III
12:10 - Confusion
20:15 - Halo On Fire
23:40 - The Day That Never Comes
25:00 - The Call of Ktulu
30:00 - The Ecstasy of Gold
29:47 - HEYY!
6:17 - Yerba Mate so delicious
6:40 - Behind the scenes
6:20 - Burp
4:28 - Banana
thank you greep
@@cookiepuss6296 It is such a purpose
It is such a magnificent purpose
Thanks bro
the comment we all needed, but didnt know it
10:19 - Enter Lars
Can’t believe it’s been a whole year since S&M2
What was S&M2 ?
FUCK it went by fast. Here’s to a new album next year!
@@smitjoshi4513 just google it, it means san Francisco symphony and metallica 2
Holy shit! One year? No kidding!
A whole WHAT??
To know the struggle James was having and to be able (for one night), push it aside and pull through this set/concert… it just shows how strong he really is. And he needs to know that he is. His friends can see his pain, love how they know how to treat James in his struggle. That’s love… his brothers for real.
What was wrong with James?
@@kaan3874 He was relapsing, so he had drinking issues again like in the 90s i believe. That's why he went to rehab shortly after S&M2
@@kaan3874 He Contemplated relapsing into drinking. He was struggling he stated and he said that he needed to get help before it got bad. Glad he knew he needed to go. And now he looks healthier again.
@@swegmeister96 He was close to it. I don’t think it helped him promoting Blackened Whiskey either. Of course he would never stop others who can hold their liquor but for him, I don’t think it was wise him being around it. It’ll get to you and sneak up on you when you least expect it.
If you knew addiction, you'd never would've said that.
He is not struggling with it this day, he us mentally ill also, that is what you are seeing.
He is in the zone I expected, a tell tell about the mundane reality.
Don't over glamorize, he is not even nice , a sour mood.
Still seems like sorcery that all this sound comes from just four guys - no post processing or backing tracks. Just four guys in a room. It's magic.
Here's the quick song reference with timings:
0:38 - For Whom The Bell Tolls
3:10 - The Outlaw Torn
7:27 - The Ecstasy of Gold (+Kirk's Huddle), Day 1
8:52 - The Unforgiven III
12:15 - Confusion
20:16 - Halo On Fire
23:41 - The Day That Never Comes
24:59 - The Call of Ktulu
29:57 - The Ecstasy of Gold (+Kirk's Huddle), Day 2
22:48 Kirk playing wherever I may roam in the background
The first one is call if ktulu not for whom the bell tools. Thank you🤘🖕
@@ResubidorSerial great catch!
10:40 kirk playing the day that never comes
@@monicagaba2682 great solo!
Not only is it extra content, but it's also from both of the S&M 2 shows
So awesome to watch. I got such a rush hearing Kirk speak in their huddle then watching them walk out into the hall just seconds before playing. Man it must be so crazy for them! Radness.
Metallica is still so fucking cool after all these damn years.
I wish people didn't trash talk Trujillo. He's very underrated in my opinion. Not that he ultimately replaced Newsted or Cliff. But he still has talent and I think he fits
Okay. He did replace them, they said that he fits right in and if people are trash talking Rob… then they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
Yes, he still has talent but he doesn't fit
He fits like a bear trying to ride a bicycle
His back up vocals unlike Jason is the issue.
@@anthonylynch4737 Also the way he fix his hair like in this video is so out of place. He is in Metallica not KORN for christ sake!
Seeing the way James looked a year ago and how he looked on that Howard Stern thing you might think it's two different persons... So happy that James is doing better!
I love near the beginning when Lars says “come on guys talk to me, anything” Kirk says Halo and Lars says right Outlaw Torn. 😂
I think he was really trying to reach James as a friend in that moment
its painful to see the struggle James is in during this time. God bless Papa Het and Metallica
What's the problem with James ??
He had relapsed during this time I believe
@@chassy50 its true. Many people talk shit about Lars but its gratifying to see Lars support his friends of almost 40 years.
@@nunojesus3018 yeah
Yeah, I can relate to that struggle 100%. It's a battle you can win but you'll fight the war for the rest of your life.
The power in that little room is astounding
6:59 finally someone acknowledged his joke
The Outlaw Torn is underrated I think. At least it is "underplayed".
That’s for sure!
in my top 3. also with bleeding me
It’s underrated because people think the album sucks when it’s the one of the best albums
Absolutly sure!
@Jpower Yes I agree on that. Nothing Else Matters, Enter Sandman, ... are well known by everyone, but they are overplayed as fu**
Age is inevitable to us all, but it still does not stop the pain you feel when you see the people you adore looking old. I have grown up listening to this band and watching then live. Have grieved for members lost, have felt the pain of Jame's meltdown. I am now in my late fifties and I still love what these guys are doing.
Kirk will always be my 16YO friend from back in the day. Even at 80 😂
He’s awesome (and oblivious to how talented he is...they all are).
Whats up
I could literally cry watching them coming out to stage to Ecstasy of Gold. It’s amazing how such a band did so much impact on me.
I cried just watching it in this video 😭😂
Same here man without a doubt ..
i always get teary when ecstasy starts! can't help it lol just happens.
Same dude, same. Ecstasy of Gold is such an epic song for an epic moment like "OMFG METALLICA IS PLAYING NOW"
The outlaw torn must be played in every metallica setlist
@Ewolf5150 That would be a great shame. All of their albums have at least a few great songs, sure, the first 4 are basically all great, but the later ones aren't that bad either.
Ewolf5150 LMAO
@Ewolf5150 Considering every album has hit number one, you're the minority.
Ewolf5150 that is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
@@SouthernAssault agreed
Outlaw Torn is my favorite song. Period.
I know it's boring to play, but the song is so important.
Lars may not be (and it isn't) the best drummer in the World, but it's affection with the audience is brutal, he truly knows (at least demonstrate it undoubtfully) the importance of the fans in its life and that's a huge sign of humility
he handed me a drink before he went on stage back in 2010. still remember looking at the cup in disbelief then looking up at him before he smiled, nodded and ran up the stairs to the stage
Lars isn't even the best drummer in metallica lol
@@Lonescope679 Thats bullshit🤮👎
All these Lars haters quite comical about his drumming. Just remember this he's been the only drummer for decades with his band m etallica. Surely that shows he's perfect for them.
Who cares if he is not the best? He is the drummer of Metallica
Different level of focus for this bad boy. This album rocks.
This is the best notification I've gotten all day
0:00 - 0:41 - "wow Trujillo can't even get a note in over these noisy bois."
0:42 - ".....oh".
I’m 41 years old, hole my life I listen Metallica, you guys made my life’s soundtrack!
There’s actually no way that this was one year ago...
You just exploded my mind with this statement. Holy fuck it actually was :D
Damn
Metal Puppet what in the fuck happened in 2020. i swear the world had to have been sucked by a wormhole or something and were in a different dimension now.
It is and if you look at James now and how much better he looks you can see that one year can make a huge difference..so glad he is doing better.
Todd Roy facts. He was hanging on to get this done you could see the struggle.
I've been listening to this concert every day since August 28
I’m glad the “mind going blank during a jamsesh” is universal
Rob is the coolest dude, he seemed to add some grounding to the band from what I can see.
i was one of those 15 year old's who hated songs like The Outlaw Torn and was all about heavy fast Thrash, now that I am 30 i can totally relate to or understand songs on the Load and ReLoad album. The Outlaw Torn, Bleeding Me, Fixxxer and Low Man's Lyric hit home for me.
James lyrics are so damn relatable 👍🤘
Low man's lyric hit hard
You have to reach a point of your life when you can Relate to the lyrics I'm sure when we get to our 40s we will understand St anger People and musical tastes change over time
Outlaw Torn is a classic. You feel it.
At one point I thought I was reading my own comment until you said you are 30, I'm 35 and I was the same like you, I wanted every album to be a Kill'em all or AJFA. Load and Reload are the peak for their creativity and maturity. Fixxxer, Outlaw Torn, Where the wirld things are...
23:09 “So you don’t sing FAST?” Don’t know why but that cracked me up!
3:15 that intro riff to outlaw sounds so good, crazy how Metallica can make standard tuning sound so heavy in today’s world full of drop g and whatever else
I don't do favorites, but Outlaw might be one of my favorite Metallica songs
Eb I thought
Standard tuning, but down a half step. So Eb/D#.
Not that standard Eb is that different than standard guys
It is all about the tune and the dynamics
Everybody: Hey, cool session.
Algún argentino: DIOS MIO UN MATE, GRANDES, VIVA ARGENTINA.
In You face.. Viva Argentina,!!!!!
@@gastonmartinez578 Ah, ya.
Estaba buscando tu comentario porq no me lo creía, awesome
Jajajaja que grande James siempre tomando unos verdes.
jajaja totalmente!!
james: doin pretty good...*nodding in disapproval*
im so happy he made it through and got some help again he looked off, hes usually uplifting and happy around his bandmates but here he genuinely just doesnt seem like he wants to be there
I will say he looked pretty normal for the the first show out of the two, I kinda have this thought process of, if maybe they didn't play with the symphony for a second night, maybe he wouldn't have been the way he was, but either way he was battling his demons and other stuff that was going on in his life, who knows how bad he withdrawled but we in the metallica family are all so proud of him for getting help and battling and defeating his demons for good (hopefully) and very happy to see him back doing his thing in Metallica
It’s cause he knew he was going to rehab again in the next week, and that would be his last show for a while.
I think the really sucky part is the fact that I think the guys new something was wrong but didn’t know what exactly. He didn’t seem like himself as you said he’s normally goofing around a lot in the tuning room but he seemed over it. But yet when they walked out he slapped on a happy face fooling the audience into thinking he was okay. Either way he looks much happier and healthy now and that’s all that matters!
@Kevin Jay Hey man, chill out. When you get sober off something like that, it is always tempting after, even nearly 20 years later. 20 years of sobriety, after nearly 20 years of serious addiction is very commendable. He's not perfect, but he's done very well, and even had the mind to acknowledge his problems much earlier this time. Your comment was insensitive and dickish to make.
even after going through rehab, every day is a decision. layne staley is a prime example.
31:54 this is why i love these guys, which big fu€kin' international rock band do that ?
They love and respect their fans and give so much to us. When fan wishing a good show to Lars, like two friends ... i love that.
Metallica is still a human band, even with millions of dollars, millions of albums, millions of everything, since 1981 baby !
32:03 he left his security dude hanging
James Hetfield is the absolute best motherfucking Rhythm Guitarist ever!
I'm out of words here. it is like seeing an updated, uncut version of Some Kind of Monster. Something doesn't look right with James, and the band knows it. Respect
kirk at 3:03
lars: "anybody? come on, anything?"
kirk: "how about hal-"
james: "nOpE"
kirk: "how about hAlo--"
lars: "okay! a lil bit of oUtLaW"
😂😂😂😂
The ignored
"How about One?"
🤣
this is bitter sweet bc they all look nervous and confident at the same time and james looks like hes trying 200% too keep it together
Led Zepplin fan here but this is so good to hear and lets me know Rock and Roll is still here. This band makes me so proud to know that good music still exists. I hope some young people hear this and want to keep this going
Watching them just before they go on with that music playing gives me chills everytime and I'm sat at home on a computer. Being there about to go on and play must be incredible
James is lost in his thoughts here. I'm glad that he is healthy and OK now! 🤘🤘
Any idea what was happening? I don’t follow them too much but I’m curious.
Joel Hernandez This was shortly before he went back to rehab. So he wasn’t in the best state health wise
27:17 James playing that part with Rob blended almost seamlessly 😂🤷🏻♂️
I've been listening to them since childhood and these guys never cease to amaze me metallica forever
James is my hero.
You can tell they were nervous despite all these years. Specially James who had a very heavy burden to carry at that moment.
What heavy burden?
@@breakingdawn999 that he wasnt sober
@@ESPHetfield ...not being sober and singing Unforgiven 3 without a guitar to hide behind...you can tell he felt totally exposed.
@@shawnstephens6795 exactly! I was fortunate enough to be there both nights,down on the floor almost facing him as he sang that. You could see something wasn't right all night and he was so uncomfortable during Unforgiven. Obviously we know now why. It was a powerful peformance nonetheless.
@@ESPHetfield can you tell ke why? I dont know it
What a huge sound, tuning room mix better then most bands produced records.
Pity they've got the timing of a high school band at a local talent show.
@@FB-jc5mt I've always thought comments like yours were a bit harsh, but as time goes by...it really isn't that good
Lars' tempo + unecessarry fills, and kirk's improve :/ Idk it just doesn't hit the spot anymore for me as a metallica fan.
Unfortunate
Greg Fidelman in the corner is the guy responsible I'm thinking.... amazing mixing!
Well, once you have one fix setup - EQ presets and whatnot, you can repeat that sound on each rehearsal...
@@FB-jc5mt this is metal, not a clock competition
Metallica rocks...true artists & musicians..love these guys. Been rocking out to metallica since 1986 at 7 years old
23:13 LMAO! Somebody should compile all this Kirk's quirks!
6:30 And God helping fro all ...
12:02 Metallica connection test
19:39 Lars sad but true confession
20:35 middle finger to the camera
22:41- 23:39 Lars being ignored
23:39 Lars pissed off "DAY"
24:49 Eric's special appearance
28:58 Kirk's EPIC FAIL
30:38 Metallica's Fifth member
31:52 And Lars for All...
to the top
you forgot at 9:30 Kirk eats a banana
What do you mean with kirk's epic fail? To me it sounded like he did that shift intentionally. Either way sounds good to me. Has kind of a jazz vibe to it. The good old "you're always only a half step away from the correct note"
I love your content.
Keep on posting!
The dude himself
I was really bummed out I wasn't able to see it in the theatres last year but having the S&M2 BluRay finally in my hands now more than makes up for it. Thanks for a great show, guys!
You need to be deaf if this is a great show for you. It sounds like crap recorded on some cheap microphones.
UPLOAD THE BASS TRACKS PLEASE
i guess you could say its... all within your hands...
d dn I noticed that too. I think even if it was just held in a new stadium, they should have better microphones
We appreciate you metfan4l
6:17 Qué grande James tomándose unos mates! Le faltaban los bizcochitos o las facturas. Capo
Everything they do is always well orchestrated! Has been for years! Just the #1 kick ass band, has been since forever!
The only band that kept us going during the pandemic! Thank you to our four horsemen!
Pandemic lol. You believe anything huh.
@@DaPoopIsInDaPudding I'll believe what I want to believe
@@TheOrion057 what does this band have anything to do with a flu like infection?
I just watch to see how bad Lars is. Thats it.
@@mattjwatson5089 I guess you were disappointed then.
Metal will Never be the same without these guys.
Thank for sharing, I enjoyed watching the band practice. Awesome
I feel really sorry for James in this, Kirk and Lars trying to pump him up and compliment him but just looks so out of place!
So glad he’s doing alright now!
The best thing about being a member of Metallica is to get to see all their practices and sound checks live!
The tuning room is a concert on it's own 💣
I am impressed with the level of professionalism and respect for the show and the fans of the band congratulations
Metallica does not need to prove anything, they are epic and we love them no matter what.
James looks done with it on the first night's footage, barely acknowledging the rest of the band, but seems much better the second time around. He fights a battle every day and I wish him every success in it.
Rob is so damn good, I love his energy, vibe and passion! :)
Man.... Outlaw Torn gave me goosebumps. I love that song. Always have.
I'll never forget binge watching that Clif em' all video on VHS back in 1986.. I almost lost my tears when Lars walked out aint gonna lie.. I've been a fan of Metallica since 1985 and they have always been my number 1 band.. I have so much respect and gratitude for all of these guys.. Much love to you forever Metallica.. You definitely have a piece of my heart..
Cliff's basslines really show here, amazing! I learned all the best books to read from learning about Cliff 👊💀👊
For whom the bells toll!
yawn
6:20 James tomando mate, que grande.
Ah, sí grandísimo...
31:53 the best feeling with Lars 🔥🤘🔥
Outlaw Torn... chills every time! 🤘🏻💕
4:35 I love kirk just eating a banana at the back
What's the name of that song
@@juande9750 The Outlaw Torn.
LMAOO I LOVE HIM
Probably thinking about Lars
@@thequintessential5503 lol
31:35 that moment is priceless for a Metallica fan...
I'd kiss Lars
So true. The first time I seen them live it was such a crazy experience hearing that intro all around me compared to just watching CZcams over the years
@@merciless2032 I'd kiss Kirky
@@WilleJamesHuff I'm really happy for you. I hope I can live that atmosphere one day...
sude but true its a great experience. We were lucky to get to see them two times during hardwired arena tour in the US. Now with how things are with Corona it’s hard to say when we ever will get to see them again.
Hetfield's voice is like the finest of fine wine. Just keeps getting better with age. Would love to hear some sort of solo project of Load/Reload type material, that country Sabbath vibe, but I know it'll never happen.
I hate I missed this. Metallica was the first band I ever fell in love with. Loved S&M.
I like it how they're as nervous as we would be
Right?!? It is awesome to see these guys who have played many thousands of shows over the span of 4 decades experience pre-show jitters. They're human like the rest of us!
If wouldn't be a tuning room video without Kirk making dad jokes and the rest of the band not reacting at all.
Has to be one of my most favourite videos on CZcams hands down!
Lars is the best drummer in my lifetime! I was born in 76 and in the 90's during the war when the black album came out all my buddies were coming back from Desert Storm. They all including myself listened to you guys every single day!!!!