Kingdom Hearts: The master of masters true name?
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Theme song: foretellers kingdom hearts
Hey guys it’s final here I hope you all are having an amazing day or night been cooking up this video and had this in my mind for a long long time and thought it was a good idea to push forward let me know what you all think of this and if you like it why not stick around and be apart of this amazing community till next time 😄 thanks
Nomura after watching this video: WRITE THAT DOWN. WRITE. THAT. DOWN.
LMFAO!!! LOVE THIS COMMENT 😂
You know, considering the first time I ever saw the fan theory that defeating someones heartless and nobody would restore them as a person was aaall the way back when KH2 was still the _latest_ game in the series (years and years before the DDD reveal), I would _entirely_ believe that Nomura just adds in whatever interesting ideas fans come up with if he stumbles across them.
@@thatboringone7851well maybe I’ll be written in history some how 😭😂
@@Final_RPG Nomura being a time traveler himself seen this wrote it down and proposed this to disney making kh 1
@@adammorin2955 which in conclusion makes me a time traveler of the past and future for getting this footage and then coming back to the present to share with you guys 👀
friendly reminder that the box is marked X-super, so the master very well may not be the pride sin but whatever is in the box is. the book stuff i dig and is really cool. While yes he includes himself among the lost masters and jokes about "not counting" as one of the seven, him being different than the rest is also made blatantly clear. His name can't be one of the sins (which most of the fandom has pretty much gleamed from the fact that they hid it) and he doesn't fill that role either. he's the one setting everything up, not an instrument in the plan
The Master of Master's name will definitely have to do with Light.
Invi-Envy
Ira-Wrath
Aced-Sloth
Gula-Gluttony
Ava-Avarice
Luxu-Lust
Pride-Lucifer the morning star.
What does Xehanort see in the KH3 opening that signifies the start of the path he walked. A star. "The truth is what you see with your eyes not what you hear."
These books always intrigued me.
7 books with 7 different names containing ancient script.
Knowing how every little thing has meaning and comes back in a crazy way like the machine from kh1 coming back. I’m 100% convinced that these books mean something.
Me too I've always thought they meant something
Fullmetal Alchemist version:
MoM: I am the truth, the universe
I. Am. YOU
I am... Theo
Us: ???
MoM: ... Because I'm TheoRIZING
Nomura: I warned y'all were overthinking
Ngl, this'd be PERFECT
I've had a theory recently. supposedly the story of the keyblade war and loss of the X-blade refers to the foretellers war, then Xehanort makes a new keyblade war. what if these were not the only keyblade wars and neither is the original? what if there was an even older war for Kingdom Hearts and THAT was the war that resulted in the loss of the X_blade?
why do I think this could be true? well what did the X-blade supposedly turn into? 7 pure lights, and 13 PURE-DARKNESSes. what is the dark figure in the foretellers era? the multiple dark figures? they are "Darkness" right? if they are PURE darkness, is it not possible that there are 13 of them and that they are the 13 pure darknesses that came from that shattered X-blade? and then what of the MoM and his "lost friends" he seems to have something going on with the number 7 strangely enough, doesn't he?
and so then, what if the black box doesn't 'currently' contain the MoM as some think, but is a tool intended to contain the 13 darknesses and 7 lights to rebind them into the true X-Blade once more? having been part of the X-blade would explain how the MoM was able to create replica Keyblades from peoples hearts. perhaps after the MoMs plan is finished he, the other lights, and the darknesses will be rejoined into the X-blade ending their 'war' and allowing Sora to wield the true X-blade to restore Kingdom Hearts.
I just remember that scene where the master tells the darkness that he is their counterpart so that would make him light in physical form but I could definitely have read that wrong
The fact the true darknesses could all fused together to create one entity is insane lol I always end up thinking of that
@@Final_RPG Yeah nomura really opened up some wild theories when he gave darkness sentience
@@herculejoestar5809 I absolutely love it though I’m ready for the future to already be here 😭😂
@@Final_RPG Been with the series since 2002 and I only love it more the crazier it gets
@@herculejoestar5809 me too I’m glad I found it the day it started cause if I didn’t I wouldn’t be able to have the friends I have now because of it.
Everyone is either Xehanort or Sora
Indeed 😭💀
Look up what Theodore Translates as: Theos(God-Given) and Dōron(Gift), so Theodore literally Translates as "God given Gift". So if we go by the logic that MoM doesn't give out names randomly, he is literally telling you his presence is a "God given gift". It means he is either an actual manifestation of Light itself, or he is the "Avatar" of light, and acts as it's representative to fight against Darkness, which takes control of others to fight on its behalf(at least normally).
Thanks for pointing that out lol. It's funny because I was going to make my bestie the master of masters in my kh fan animation, and his name Sean happens to translate the same meaning: "god is gracious" or "gift of god." 🤣 Made me laugh. Like what are the chances of that happening?
it would be funny if he was actual light like there are darknesses, but he had to use one of his eyes so he must have a body
@@manuelbonelli3690 Ahem, *Vanitas*
But no really, Vanitas is a manifestation of the embodiment of darkness separated from Ven's Heart. Furthermore, Darkness was said to _have physical forms that they cast off._ So it's not really a stretch to presume that Light could have started with a physical form.
Warning for Some spoilers below.
Apparently in Dark Road, it was revealed where all 13 "True Darkness's"(Aka the character) are currently. 4 Are trapped in the data cable between the Dandelions and Wreck-It Ralph's worlds, 1 became Vanitas(possibly) or was destroyed by Sora during Remind, 1 possessed Baldr in Dark Road and was destroyed, and the remaining 7 are said to be trapped in the Lost masters, Aka "Ava, Ira, Gula, Invi, Aced, Luxu, and the Master of Masters".(I only just learned this bit) Which kinda messes with the whole "He is the light" idea.
@@SkyEcho751 I think the MoM right now is really a nobody . Like , I don't think even Nomura knows. The MoM now is just a plot device that help Nomura with keeping the story ongoing , at the same time he made so that he has multiple possibilities to chose who the person is (might be Soraz demyx or whoever else) and also to be a completely new character. But I really thin nnomura just doesn't know himself yet
@@manuelbonelli3690 His name is a new one, like the voice actor for Master of Masters straight up confirmed they had been floating around dropping a name, and even recorded the audio line with a name included.
However the voice actor also said that he "Doubted the name would have any specific impact", basically saying that the name wasn't one connected to major characters of the series, like if they called him "Dave".
It also seems like Nomura has a story outline, and we'll actually get to learn _who_ the MoM is in the new arc, because the mainline games so far has been all about Xehanort and Sora and the battle between the two. Not really much room to fit MoM in and introduce him, and define what roll he'd play other then the "mysterious guy who set everything in motion" that he already fills.
Bro!! You blew my mind!! But, it makes sense!
MoM and Darkness talk casually together like God and Satan would.
MoM knows the future like God does.
MoM knows his disciples very well just like God knows his children.
It all makes sense!!!!
Thank you for watching I’m glad you liked it hope you stick around to see more of it unfold
Things like this in all the games just fuels my headcanon that Nomura has had a generic outline of the major important events, then just filled in the rest as time went on
Not really he’s stated in interviews already that he already thinks of the next games after building one game lol
@@Final_RPG To me though i feel like he would of had the story at least 25% done after chain of memories. Theres to many things that happen later on to be like nomura just used this because it was an asset from kh 1 or fan theories made it possible. The thing that comes to mind is the machine in kh 1 in the end of the world that shows up in melody of memories. Thats a huge stretch of time for nomura who worked on 2-3 games at the time to say out it in put it in.
@@adammorin2955 exactly he also had bbs done by the time of kh 1 if u free came the room you can see a drawing of sora roxas and ven it’s fucking insane.
@@Final_RPGwhich room?
I don't know but, the theory that the master is sora from a different timeline is getting pretty hot. Yozora's arc is hinting that the sora we know looks different from the sora he knows. Also, who is hiding their look?. Yeah the master is hiding his face for a reason. He is someone we know or resembles someone we know. But yes, the master's personality is the complete opposite of Sora's, right?. Well, remember that yozora said the sora he knows looks "different". This could also imply that this different sora also has a different personality. Their personalities aren't too different by the way. The master and sora are both easy going and overly positive. Remember that the theory posts that there could be 2 Sora's with different looks, so anything is possible.
I’ve had this theory for a while and would love anyone’s thoughts…
Sora is Yazora (Sora means Sky and Yazora means Night Sky). Rex also confuses Sora for Yazora in Toy Box.
Verum Rex means “true king”
Noctis is from “insomnia” from the Kingdom of Lucis, or “Crown City”. Noctis is the true king after finally awakening from slumber. This echoes Sora needing to master the power of wakening. “Noctis” means “night” and lucis means “light” in Latin - Caelum meaning “heaven”. Heaven in Latin also happens to be “sky” or “Sora”
Therefore Sora + Yazora = Noctis, one true king is literally light and dark Sora. Needs both forms to “awaken” and become the one true king (or MoM).
I haven’t thought much further than this, would love to hear what others think.
Theodore means ‘gift of gods’, and shortened to Theo means ‘God’, buuuut… did you know? ‘Jack’ means ‘Man’.
Jack = man? According to what? I'm curious.
Everywhere I look, I find it means God is Gracious or Supplanter.
Hebrew, British, Greek, etc.
Am I missing something? Cuz, I like what you're saying because That would be a very clever comment!
I could say my name is God or that my name is man, but I couldn't prove it either way.... brilliant!!
@@danisle4379
ordinary man (jack1 (sense 7)), also a youth (mid 16th century), hence the ‘knave’ in cards and ‘male animal’. The word also denoted various devices saving human
www.verywellfamily.com/jack-name-meaning-origin-popularity-5120953
@@Veritas_Quaesitor_IIV Thanks. After reading that, it seems Jack = Man is not official. Jack was just used alot to name babies. Although, not official, I still like the idea of "I could be God or just an average man, but I can't prove either one."
Okay so that means that MoM may given us clues about his true name with a joke ? That man god sure is something 😅
This would also explain the Mom saying that he can be anyone (from a god to a normal man) but nobody knows and the truth is only what you see (just like he said)
Theodore is Ancient and Modern Greek meaning "the one gifted from God", gifted as in "being given to someone as a gift" and not gifted like talented.
I see but there plenty of other translations in a general sense that just mean god of gods
@@Final_RPG well, actually no. The origin is Ancient Greek, and for that matter Theon too. Theon means "godly" or better "the (thing) having the essence of god, which gives a better understanding of the name Theodore being divided to Theon Doron which means "godly gift" , so the whole implies that Master of Masters is not directly god but rather a gift from god to the world or someone that has the essence of god in him, whether it's heritage from god (or ... Gifted* to him), or he acquired it through other means or even that he WANTS to acquire it which better fits his name as the seventh sin. Every other translation of Theodore and/or Theon is based on the original Ancient Greek ones and can be misleading. Every single form of a word serves a different and unique purpose in ancient Greek, even when you compare synonyms or tautosims there will always be a difference in meaning in some way, indicating a different purpose/root/axiom/...usage in general.
@@KlaviersAnthology how is this no? There are variety of words for each language despite from just one singular continuity
@@KlaviersAnthology but I do appreciate the info in a general sense 💯
@@Final_RPG i mean, if we really seek the translation of a word we must seek its origin and why was it used the way it did to mean the thing it meant. Then every other language that took this word took it cause they didn't have a word prior to that to describe this powerful and specific meaning. Although, through years, alterations in the ways we use a word happen, and not only for words a language took from another but inside the same language of origin the usage might differ over the years. Rest assured though, that in this case both latin and English have used these too words they way they were used back 4000 years ago and the reason is simple: it illustrates and depicts a condition in which something can have the essence of god or be given from God (to humanity) and there would be no other words till now depicting this exact meaning that well. Even in Modern Greek that, trust me, it has become a travesty, these words have retained their ancient meaning. If you continue looking it up you will also come to the realisation of this fact :D thank you for your time to answer and thank you for this video! I really love this series and engaging in such philosophic talks about it is extremely fun to say the least!
My man, i loved this video. Great video❤
Just wanted to correct you since I'm an Arab and just wanted to correct you on a couple of things
1. Salet isn't an Arab prophet, we have only 1 and that is prophet Mohammad PBUH or if the word is Salat it means Salah which is prayerin Arabic
2. Nara doesnt mean light, it means fire. Enara means light.
3. Fun fact, Asad translate into Lion in Arabic
Thank you so much I just knew it was from some origin of prophet I just wasn’t sure what dialect it had came from prior in ancient history. Also edit nahara is the spelling but the way it is spelled and meaning of origin comes from light you’re right the spelling of Nara does mean fire tho
@Final_ RPG no problem! We do have a warrior named Salah Al Dein Al Ayoubi so maybe its a reference to that? Not sure anyways looking forward to listen more to your videos!
@@tarikdarouich thank you so much man I try my best when making my videos I don’t know if you use discord but we have a community if you want that I could slide you the sever I haven’t properly asked in a video if people would wanna join so yeah you seem cool enough if you’d like just let me know!
Asada in Spanish is “steak”.
There are multiple Arab prophets in islam. Hud, Shucayb, Saleh, and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. The difference is Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, was the messenger for the Arabs of his time and the rest of humanity after. Salet means connection in Arabi. Salet (plural) or salah always means our formal prayer which is a connection between us and Allah
The world of kingdom hearts is a dream and the master of masters is the sleeper.
Oh my gosh, you're definitly onto something with that theory of yours. To think many of the answers to our questions may have been in KH1 since the beginning 😦.
This has been my face ever since I cracked this code a couple years ago I just wasn’t able to share it at all I was so bothered I could I’m glad you liked it!
One of those things I always say. There's always something new to learn from the first Kingdom Hearts. Twenty years later.
seeing smaller youtubers find stuff like this that bigger youtubers miss, still puts a smile on my face to this day🙂. Also does that mean that "SPOILERS" LUXU color scheme is red like sora's😯
Not gonna lie. When you said Theon, I was thinking "oh my gosh the Master of Masters is Leon!" But oh well🤷♂️ it was a fun theory for a couple seconds
LMAOOO
His name is superbia he’s the seventh sin the box literally had that written on it
Also in Dark Road when the Master of Master's says his name it is still blank, but does have five spaces. Which works super well with your theory!
5 to 4 very close its very hard to tell since they don’t actually come up in dashes I’m so excited to see ahead to the future though
@@Final_RPG (Slim) SHADY
@@Ingisen lol
Damn Theodore
The funny thing about the 'Theodore or Jack' comment is that the monicker 'Jack' is often attributed to Satan.
M.O.M. is literally saying 'I'm either God or Satan, can't tell ya which.'
What I got from that is that there's a chance that MoM's true name could be Theodore.
God of Gods? So the Master of Masters is Zeus! We do keep going back to Olympus.
Lol no just a label not the actual mythos that is funny u said that though
Out of all the theories, MoM being a god/light always made the most sense. It also gave me an idea. If the Master of Masters is a being of light, what if just like the True Darknesses, Light itself could possess people? Think about it. The MoM is seen conversing with the Darkness and is referred to as the counterpart, so if Darkness can possess peoples heart, why not Light? But it would bring a lot of more questions if it were possible, but it would explain how Light was able to gain a physical body, and who would this vessel even be? Who would be the best person to carry so much Light? The Child of Destiny?
Are we sure he's on the light side of things tho? (I might have missed something I haven't played the mobile games)
@@skchabauzinha7118 He defiantly is on the side of light. Since you didn't play or watch union x or dark road he discusses his goal is to defeat true darkness which can't be destroyed or killed.
@@adammorin2955 That's the problem....he might be too much in the light side
super well rounded theory explaining everything we know this far, and predicts some things we may see. We have seen other surprises in KH1 so this may very well be another.
When he said “I could introduce myself as Theodore or jack…”
JACK MEANS “GOD IS GRACIOUS” so yeah… I guess he’s god?
Even Theodore means, a gift from God. The weird thing is when Xehanort wanted to know the name, The master only show light during he said the name
@@wonders8561 maybe he is showing how he “is” the light. In tune, he can do the same with darkness? Maybe? Just not for THAT scene. Who knows haha I can’t wait!
@@mrrj44 I don't know if you remember a scene when the Master and darkness were speaking in person before the Master vanished in X Union. They've been knowing each other since ancient times.
@@wonders8561 the most ancient darkness talking to the most ancient light?
@@mrrj44 Hmm... maybe.
Unless Sora is a Luxu vessel
that would be sad
Also my dude Theodore is funny AF but Jack is Time traveler from FF1 and the remakes Stranger of Paradice that Nomura helped write, Jack is time traveler like FF1 but his real story is that JACK WANTED TO BREAK OUT OF A TIMELOOP THAT WAS BEING CONTROLED BY LUFENIANS(DARK ELFS) MESSING WITH LIGHT AND DARKNESS TO KEEP A FAKE BALANCE.
I recommend watching a recap of FF1 OG so you can see the fun clues Specifically when you meet the dark elf and get the Crystal eye and then watching Strangers of Paradice witch is the Jacks story so OGff1 is anout stopping Jack and SOP is about jacks time travel story, its pretty good.
Oh yeah I totally agree which are vague references
I hunted so many theory content, nver seen those books in KH1. thats massive bruv. Really didnt expect a good guess to Master of master name. Really insane
Edit: Theon kinda sounds like "The One", sounds very important. Weirdly sounds like Xion, even though I think its a mistake to correlate with her, her name comes from "No. 1" as experiment number 1, given by Vexen/Even (who also was interested in studying Xehanort Memories...)
Luxord had a title known as "Master of Rhetoric" which contains Theo (seems to be just a bad coincidence)
Weirdly enough, "Luxord" is phonetically similar to "sword" and "Lux" in latin means "Light". Does Nomura put any reason his name suggest a Sword of light? He did said Luxord was his favorite Org XIII character...
hafen is the place where ships dock , law in german means "Gesetz" ......
ive replied to this before the correct defnition is suppose to be hafe coming from a biblical term
@@Final_RPG would you please give me the source to your claim just asking becaus i dont want to consult germanistic students on this
@@Jakedoe2567 it comes from the bible in English it's about Noahs son
@@Final_RPGHow's this related to german and where did you get that bad translation?
@@enoyna1001 I fucked up it was hafe and it was a biblical translation
I still like to think MoM is a version of Axel.
The book names could be used for the Foretellers' Keyblades
Or simply the closest translation in English, either in a positive or negative meaning:
Lawful/Lawless Envy for example
luxuria (lust)
gula (gluttony)
avaritia (greed)
tristitial acedia (sloth)
ira (wrath)
invidia (envy)
superbia (pride)
You have the color of the books... BUT you also have the Sora vs YX battle in KH DDD: the colored hourglasses
BTW, the Master of Masters' real name is Slim Shady
Consider me absolutely mind blown right now.
I wouldn't place too much on the colors of the books. Colors in Kingdom Hearts are strangely less important than you'd think. Look no further than Kingdom Key and it's D counterpart being mirrors, but still sharing those colors. More often the connections are names and words, the intent behind those words, etc.
So the books in the library of Hollow Bastion match tales of the Foretellers. Y-Xehanort was researching the Ark, probably the Foretellers, and perhaps even the Master.
Also, Theodore and Jack are names that are very important.
They both mean similar things, "Grace/Gift of a god."
Judging from the symbolism presented already, the way Light is presented in the Age of Fairytales, and such things, then The Master is referring to himself as derivative of that root word, God.
Luxu means excess, but its root word is obviously Lux, Light.
It all ties back to Light.
Perhaps we're just searching for the right translation of the right word for light, and that's the name of our man.
Remember that primary character names in the game are always hyper-symbolic. Especially in the true Japanese
"One Sky, One Destiny" is translated a different way in Japanese, but the fact is that Sora's name is the word for sky, and that speaks for itself.
So we're probably looking for a name, word, or even phrase that encompasses all that we've seen. From the strange, cryptic words of the Ark in KH1 to the various references throughout all games pertaining to light.
Sora is the Master, maybe. If he is the Sky, then Light is a natural connection, and so is Darkness. He could be some sort of heart reincarnate, and other theories state that he is Kingdom Heart's answer to the darkness, a heart that was given life with the power to heal and protect other hearts. An Ark in human form.
If Sora had to make the player character's choice of reincarnating or becoming a Dream Eater, would Sora reincarnate then into a boy called Soma, meaning the sound of win? Further echoing his symbolic connections to the sky, and light?
Anything is possible and plausible to kh totally seeing the the x alone for the sigil became something of major importance so I wouldn’t ever put anything past it
Yeah, MoMs and Luxus names are just straight up on point, its just mind boggling at this point, dude revealed in an interview more than a decade ago that he planned out Yozoras appearance and now you're telling me he had already thought about MoM and Luxu at the time?
Sure they might've been just concepts back then, but its still nuts that he had the balls to put all these hidden messages into the game.
Bro is literally built different
I'm just happy I cracked these codes 😭 on some real shit
HOLY CRAP IM LATE but search up gaman, it has the exact same definition of the khama book sora pics up, i didnt know there was another word for it but i want to get it tattooed and that’s how i found it
do the sora video please. I am interested now lol
I’ll try to do it after my next one I’m a bit backed up and I’m setting up the stream for Thursday with friends so stay updated through my community post unless you wanna be inside my server for discord just ask me and I’ll hand it over. I usually keep it closed up because I try to make it as a safe space for everybody but yeah I’m glad you liked it thank you so much! It means a lot
Ive just been binging your content- the videos feel so short with how enjoyable they are : ) amazing stuff
Jesus Christ the good sovereign God loves you
Oh no my brain.
IM SORRY 🤣 does it at least kinda make a little sense tho loll
What is luxu true form during the era of the foretellers I wonder
Good clues in KH1 and mentioned in Dark road, thats effin sick!!!! Also you mentioned Sora being m.o.m. Okay i can see the Events unfold im my brain. Okay dumb i know but who taught sora latin he never reads??? Lol like theres this other theory that Kairi goes bad which both are inciting haha. Lovely stuff imagine sora gaslighting Xeonort into darkness is efffed up revenge like aizen iq villainy
Yeah that’s a whole other theory multiple people have spoken on the sora is master of masters but a lot of them haven’t actually looked at other context that has literal proof that he is.
You did an amazing job ! Thank you :)
No thank you for sticking around and watching it means more than me putting the video together truly!
i think mom is mother.
Me too I need some fucking dinner
@@Final_RPGure great 😂
The red book represents love/lust and the Luxord is venitas or Roxas or yozora the reason he doesn’t have a face because his face is a “black mirror”
Plot twist, MoM's name is being Jack wasnt a lie and he is actually Jack Garland from FF : Stranger's Paradise and the whole plot of Kingdom Heart is one of the cycles of Chaos.
Please, enough with this "modern new canon" garbage 😮💨
the 7 crowns could be what's in the black box..
Khama in Arabic means (ore) or (raw material)
in Buddhism it means (the concept of pleasure, enjoyment and desire) I think this meaning fits Luxu more because luxu in Latin is luxury
Just subbed bro been playing kh again and this theory trips me out so much mystery
As a german I have one big gripe with your theory. The german word for "law" is in fact "Gesetz" and not Hafen/Hafet (didnt exactly understand what the word was supposed to be).
So I instantly come to the conclusion that you did your research wrong or you are trying way to hard to make the books names related to the fortellers.
It different dialect of languages that are in history books not todays language and hafen/hafet has been corrected before in my comments in a mixed confusion on my end
I’m sorry, but in the Japanese version he doesn’t introduce himself as Theodore; he calls himself Taro or Jack. Taro is written with 太郎, if that helps.
My boy Jack Garland
My boy Jack Garland
My boy Jack Garland
My boy Jack Garland
My boy Jack Garland
I've never ever heard anyone else talk about this but the theory makes a lot of sense and knowing Nomura it's gotta be intentional. You just got another subscriber lol!
I really appreciate it dude Ive taken like over weeks and weeks to compile all of this stuff I've been trying to kick out videos a lot lately but I don't have a schedule really so it's kinda hard but I'm live streaming summers games fest with friends and then I'll be uploading it later to the channel just for a with friends thing and then I'll be making another video after the events of summer games fest!
@@Final_RPG sounds good haha! I look forward to seeing your channel grow.
@@Darth_Spyro thank you! And me too I can’t wait to gather everyone together and grow the place as a community
Anyone else think that anytime when the characters themselves bar you from going somewhere, it’s really MoM preventing them from changing fate?🤔
To a degree of course because luxu and xehanort both knowing him I would definitely believe this is true but that’s only because there has been a blockage from the org and just main story progression overall
@@Final_RPG I mean, like those moments where you try to go somewhere then text pops up like “I’ve got more important things to do” or “there’s nothing this way” 🤔
@@DemiTrusdale3 no I just think this is more of a plan from the team to limit an area so everything isn’t an invisible wall. Gives more attention to detail in world for what’s happened in prior situations sometimes.
Heh, MoM is playing the longest game of Whodunnit?
Man playing the longest how many people can I make feel like there’s something way more wrong
Hmm, interesting theory!🤔 im convinced 😲!
Thank you for watching man hope you see the new ones and what’s to come later on
I think Luxu is the temporal paradox MoM warns YX of. Luxu IS brain. Possibly a future or alternate version of him, but he and brain are the same person
Xigbar is just a anagram of Brain ( & Braig or was it Bragi ) just with an X
It's most likely that when inhabiting a Brain ( possibly a data version ) while the real one, who we saw in a young Scala Ad Caelum, he probably lived a long life and even started a family, that being Eraqus bloodline, being Eraqus *whatever* Grandfather.
While the data version, Luxu, hid the box, and then later before dying, he gets into a new body and giving himself a false name but close to the one he previously inhabited, Braig/Bragi (get it, cause it's close to Brain ), getting into Organization 13 and getting his name mixed around and a extra letter, X. For the heck of it
Ta-da!
it accully makes so much sence and it explains MoM perfectly and why he is hell bent on destroying darkness also holy shit how far back has numora been planning this shit if the "meaningless" books from kh1 heald info on the lost masters and MoM. i feel MoM has the black box as a literal black box the data of the people and world before it fell to darkness. it does kinda make sence why doom his world without back ups
I really do enjoy this theory a whole lot my next manga video I’m pulling out should be dropping the 5 or 6 before summers game fest
HOPEFULLY WE HAVE KH4 there 😭
@@Final_RPG it's funny when Kh first came out I was 15 I loved jrps but a Disney game no thanks, then in my mid-twenties before the final mixes came out I was visiting my cousin who was 13 at the time, and he got me into kh and I'm glad he did I am so pumped for the new saga
@@mithosirving that’s amazing man I’m glad you’re apart of the ride for it I’m excited as well funny you say that for my 100 sub special I wanted to do a video on how I got into kh but I may do it before then who knows will have to see. I’m also gonna be streaming summers game fest with some friends so hopefully it’ll be something to look forward to it’s gonna be great I bet
Makes you wonder just *how much* Nomura has been restrained over the years when it comes to KH.
9:38 so was Jack a random name too?
Definitely had to have been lol
@@Final_RPGWhat if he’s a Jack of all trades? While also being a Master of Mastering all those trades?
@@matthewnord5238 I would feel if a name had to go to someone as that it would have to be luxord
they have it backward kingdom hearts character in resident evil reality & resident evil character in a kingdom hearts in reality
Im a bit confused on what you mean 😅
@@Final_RPG the dark road the light road the in-between road to discover that they are too more side road you have to choice the world to dreams or the road of nightmare from fiction to reality or reality to fiction lego star wars .. star wars zootopia or beastars my little pony anime style or akame la kill we don't look at the dark road for what positive to the stranger we care angle or human to keep them in the road to hope while we nit pick on beastar akame la kill what when wrong as same much as the ai robot is confuse are stranger hacker or what the ai believe it a robot , where they don't want to look how resident evil are world look and yet where using it as a Cain or a gain-lit while are beloved once is trying to tell you how magic you are that something negative as you an me can make something pure and positive DESTROY the damnation return it to hope
@@jonathanreyes3249 I kinda understand what you're saying but I apologize if I can't understand due to the language not be grammatical correct but if I'm right you're saying how everything is connected and in in favor need to return to light or the hope of what sora does if so that's amazing and is what is his whole character is about
Spoilers for Dark Road!
Adding to Luxu’s side, there is one thing I just realized that connects him to the color red, like the book: Bragi’s keyblade armor. I didn’t realize this at first, but I watched another video after this one, and saw Bragi activate his armor, so I wanted to come back and comment this.
Oh and there’s also Braig’s red scarf and the red parts of the Black Box.
Personally I’m a believer that sora is the master of masters. Basically I believe the MoM’s is sora from the future who lost everything. He goes back in time and sets himself up as the MoM’s
Same. It makes the most sense and would make for a cool plot twist
What is Lux i thought he be Pride
this is the old theory that has been floating around but luxu being pride is also interchangeable with some others it just depends on the writing
This was a cool video! I would lean towards a name similar to Theos because this is the Greek rendering of God. The Latin gets Theo from the Greek. So names that have Theos or scrambling the letters to form a new name like Roxas is Sora backwards with an X so we can use Theos and add an X to get a unique name that is similar to how names are formed for nobodies.
Sethox
Ethos or Xethos
You can try to come up with other names scrambling "THEOS" with an X
If he’s named after pride, his name could very well be Super.
Super sounds extremely goofy as a name. I would prefer "Perbia"
so real quick notice you said its girl name for aced ephemer is a greek term for temporery things but can be brokn down to prefix plus hemera witch is a day goddess
Hafen in German means Port. The German word for Law is Gesetz.
So that is false completly.
Source im German
It was actually suppose to mean hafe which is biblical terminology from Noah’s arc that actually was lawfully controlling what was going on and that was a language I had no idea on other than looking up translations but everything else here is correct but I appreciate it
He’s obviously Nick Cage
Omg nick cage in kingdom hearts what a fucking chad 💀
Nah, it's..............JOHN CENA!!
I dig that
Master of Masters is Jack from Final Fantasy Stranger in paradise.
Wha- :0
This feels like a vague reach. The translations are off. Nor do the associated sins have any correlation to the books. The foretellars all have name based off of latin. So if thats the case you would actually being looking for the better version of the latin translation of Pride. No where else are those books shown besides hollow bastion and whats more interesting is if Nomura wanted to keep this part of the lore, He would have Made those books more significant in other games.
His true name is most likely God (already theorized this before this video.
In dark road when he reveals his name to xehanort… his name has 3 blank spaces “___.”) why else did xehanort look so shocked in the cutscene. If his name wasn’t God, it just wouldn’t make sense. The real surprise is what he looks like, or which character he chose to look like..
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@@Ingisen😂
I saw other comments mentioning that it had 4 blank spaces and some even saying 5 blanks. Whatever the case, i could see him just being called light. Which wouldn't even necessarily mean that he is God, darkness has many members as well and Japanese mythology works a bit different than what we are used to when it comes to good and evil so chances are the "light" we keep hearing about in KH isn't exclusively good. Balance between light and dark was always a major part of rikus story as well so maybe sora has to learn properly use the darkness as well. Something like that would also give a possible star wars world huge potential.
i like this theory but wheres the source for salegg = saleh. only thing in arabic i find about salegg is a Saddle xd
Theo.......DIO.......KONO DIO DA!!!!!!!!!
I was actually dead serious waiting for someone to say this LMFAO
@@Final_RPG Make a meme about it. The master of masters was literally Dio from Jojos this whole time. Araki approves.
It's pluto
I KNEW IT
For a very long time I believed the Master of Masters was named “Jack”. There are many many many characters named Jack or title as such in KH or connected to it.
Post Dark Road I thought about it more. Theodore and Jack are Yozora’s companions. The names are literally opposite to Goofy and Donald respectively.
I always tried to find a significance in those library books, but honestly couldn’t pin anything really conclusive.
I will say though, that I believe the Master of Masters as we know him is nothing more than a puppet. And I believe the person who is manipulating this whole charade is Elrena.
Assuming Xehanort heard him properly when he said his name, Xehanort was shocked. But Master Xehanort also says he never figured out who he was. So the name was something that had to be the truth, but sound so unbelievable you’d have to think he was lying. Ergo, I think the Master of Masters is a woman and told him a woman’s name.
Elrena works on several levels, because she is named for Elena from FF7, whose name means “Light”. El Rena is Spanish, but using the masculine article. It should be “La Reina”, or the Queen.
Actually yazora partner's aren't the names you listed there names are actually magia and aegis meaning magic and shield to be representing of Donald and Goofy they actually even say this in pre trailer when they go to toy box but removed the fact rex mentions Donald and goofy as such for whatever reason? in the full version of the game
@@Final_RPG Magia and Aegis aren’t official names. They were demo names that the community accepts. Those names were removed from the final game and does not fit the naming conventions. Basically, Yozora mirroring Sora is a Japanese naming convention. Donald and Goofy being rather “English” names, said counterparts too would have those names.
Magia and Aegis are Latin which were used in FF15, but that won’t make sense anymore, which is why you can expect the names to be changed from the demo placeholders.
Donald means world ruler, and Jack is the King’s servant. Yozora’s companion “Magia” shows one eye during the trailer, which is the hallmark of those named Jack.
Goofy is obvious and his opposite is Genius, or talent. In Japanese, “Tensei” is the word for genius meaning “Gift from Heaven/Sky/God.” Theodore also happens to mean “Gift from God”.
@@thegummiphone still gotta wait and see what they go with because then if that's the case there is no official placed name since they haven't been introduced in setting other then being seen as characters in background but nice background info for sure
So, in other words... the biggest bad in KH... is a trans?
@@Ingisen In a sense. There’s stolen voice like Ursula, and there’s gender bending like Mulan. Trans though wouldn’t really be the way to put it. It’s ventriloquy and puppetry. Remember in Melody of Memory how Sora possessed Kairi’s form to fight on her behalf even though his voice couldn’t reach? It’s something like that.
As it occurred to anyone else that their clothes feel like thobes that Arabs wear, it could just be me.
To a certain degree but they’re all labeled as higher gods for the roles they do play within all of creation
hafen means dock , ship dock lol
I’ve already corrected this in my comment
Okay so if Jack is reference maybe so is Teodoro lol Jack is ff1 and Theo possibly ff4 He is Cecils (the protag of ff4) evil brother, Half lufenian, loves the moon, was son of a Mage who was betrayed by their own followers, watch his dad die and couldn't cure him. Hs light brown hair, watch his mother die after giving birth, and darkness took his heart because he hated his brother. And was named Golbez by the darkness but its more like an evil lufenian spirit, important cause thats the Elf/ Dark elf motif in FF. Name/ Class change is also motif of the crystals/elfs abilities, Their father gave the village Lunar magic abandoned baby bro protag in Forest, Ashamed to show his face, theodore which wow is mom ashamed??? Zemus was the darkness that took theodore. I WAS NOT EXPECTING ALL OF TBIS FROM TEODORE SO IS HINTS AT MOM IDK BUT RIP THEO BOTH JACK AND THEO ARE VILLANS WHOWERE MANIPULATED TO BECOME EVIL
I don’t think they’re actually true sentiments but I’m pretty sure they could be vague things to laugh at as a crackling joke he made for Nomura. But it is really neat on the context of how far Nomura has came to write something like these books and have them individually all correlate with each of the foretellers
@@Final_RPG yeah it's pretty sick i wonder if hollow bastion is a daybreak town relic they both got gears and lifeboats lol
@@xanv8051 you might wanna watch my foretellers home video because there’s life boat like pods in twilight town that had uses for different purposes saying they have been used before previously which makes no sense seee
@@Final_RPG my brain says the only variable left is mom's team being responsible for those pods espresso if the world's were connected then sperated
@@Final_RPG Theo and Jack being homages make sense because in ffverse both were used in FF writing team jack SOP and Theo in FF14 but he's not called Theo that is a discovery in the OG game halfway point so no way modern fans would get it has to be writing team high fiving each other
The Master is Adult Sora, who travel to the past to change the future to come...
I refuse to accept that Sora could ever be a bad guy.
Besides his heartless was so weak and placid because he had so little darkness in his heart. Sora is too kind hearted to be corrupted.
I can definitely see this happening.
you never know :( @@unslaadkrosis3489
don't say it like a fact when it's not proven and a theory it's most likely Demxy
@@unslaadkrosis3489 I will say while I don't want sora to be the master of masters as that completely kills his character nothing the master of masters has said or done has necessarily been that bad. Yes he's sacrificing people but with the intent to save them. The master of masters is likely light given some comments. One example is when the mom says to darkness that what sets people apart from other living beings is that people believe in the future even if they aren't there to see it and that he too would like to believe. That implies he unlike humans doesn't naturally believe in the future. I don't think the mom is corrupted by anything but the light which sora most certainly is not. I believe if they don't go the route of being drowned in darkness and being blinded by the light being equal concepts then I think we will see good guys vs good guys they all want the same goal overall it's just who's ideals will be stronger in the end
okay mom is communicating two misunderstood villains lol but cant proof thats who he is of cource xeonort dont know them but we do its like nomura is talking to you hahaha golbez was manipulated by evil lunafolk and ashamed so doesnt show his face and is unknowingly brother of protag and jack is garland is time traveler who is being manipulated by either chaos or lufenian hmmm what are you doing nomura
His name is Erbia.
i like that name
Where The Actual Heck Is Missing-Link? Will We Get News At Summer Games Fest?
I was thinking about possibly doing a stream for may 24th for Sony event and then there's summers games fest June 8th both are very plausible but we're just gonna have to wait and see
I'm So Sick Of How Silent Square is Being
@@Jaylobeans we've had somethings shown off and told if you look through Twitter I constantly update my discord server about things all the time if you'd like to join I'd be more than happy to give you a link my guy. And I think this is a bit better so we don't have to many spoils like we got for kh3 I can't hold excitement sometimes either I definitely understand
@@Jaylobeans it'll be okay honestly it's for the best, when it comes out it'll be better then if it was rushed a couple months. But I UNDERSTAND
I WANNA KNOW!!!!!! Lol but i don't pay to win so i wonder how "good" the game will be.
Im still irritated about the Name "Hafe" or "Have" and the Origin Name of "Hafez" because they arent connected in any way. The nearest spelling to a Son of Noha is "Jafet" wich translates to :"providing Room" in "Room" means the Room for something or Someone to live in. The Name Hafez describes a Person that have memorized the Koran completely. The other words like "Hafen" is Harbor in English or "Harfe" wich translates to the musical Instrument Harp in English. There is no Connection to the Word "Law" or any meaning of that matter. "Hafiz" is a Name thats connected to the name "Hafet" althrough the meanings are different, "Hafet" means Grandchild and "Hafiz" means Protector,Guardian or religios schoolar. These are Arab names . In a Sense, the meaning of Hafiz would still describe the Roll of Invy as the Person to look after the others, to keep them together. So in a Way the Theory holds up, just the Origin of the Name was wrong. Short i like the Theory and i realy acknowlege the effort to seach all the infos. It took me Two Hours just to go through that name 😂. As a German the Origin of Hafen bothered me so i had to look up. Great Video Thumbs up.
Didn't you know? Its Xheonhort. I am Xheonhort you are Xheonhort we are all Xheonhort! Also light and dark light and dark and liiiiiiiight and darrrrrrk!
Ok cringe
I think is sora
Not possible, we already know... *some precise details* of MoM backstory, he was around during The first fights against Darkness.
Wayyy before Sora was even born, and Sora isn't that bright
Unless this is time travel shenanigans or alternate worlds
@@neoterumi4772 So the entire KH Timeline 😭
I agree with you
Theres actually more evidence that supports the fact that sora is the MoM
Not to mention sora would get smarter as he gets older,
I dont trust Gula at all, hes sneaky and confident about it. Too stone like gulas heart couldn't call anyone of them comrades which is opposite of Aced. Also "figured out" MOMs plan and was proud of sorts i think. I dont trust GULA, He kind of behaves like Mean guy Roxas. Also his desperation with Ava i don't trust gula.
So you trust Gula then?
So……Odin
How is aced not wrath
Because Aced is short for "acedia," the Latin word for sloth (sloth doesn't mean simple laziness; historically, it was a synonym for depression). Ira is the Latin word for wrath.
Ok
At this point who cares lmao im just here for the gameplay
Really reaching huh?
Funny enough how this is a fun video and you say this when the actual words and definition do mean those exact things I just said in the video they correlate to it lol. Pressed huh?
Kinda funny how you say reaching when someone made a theory that actually makes sense. And just had took his time to translate the books definitions just to lay out facts just cause they're similar in the definition doesn't mean they're correct that's why it is a theory. Is there something wrong with them trying to do a video like that🗿
The Master of Master's name will definitely have to do with Light.
Invi-Envy
Ira-Wrath
Aced-Sloth
Gula-Gluttony
Ava-Avarice
Luxu-Lust
Pride-Lucifer the morning star.
What does Xehanort see in the KH3 opening that signifies the start of the path he walked. A star. "The truth is what you see with your eyes not what you hear."
I still do believe in this great theory as well but it's just super worth noting some of these past things no one ever really picked up on I'm so excited I hope we get some small news soon. Because I know final fantasy is blowing up the water as of currently