Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1 - Review
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- My review for 'Horizon: An American Saga - Chapter 1' directed by and starring Kevin Costner.
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HELL OR HIGH WATER is a great modern western. Wind River also. Both written by Taylor Sheridan
Great flick which I thoroughly enjoyed but it is too contemporary for me to call it a western. I feel like The Wild Bunch which takes place in 1913 is about as late as the genre can go.
@@geekinwithJamesHancockagree. You should do a list of good modern or neo westerns
@@jmil843 I love that sub genre. Anytime a filmmaker combines the crime genre with the American southwest, I start drooling.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock I’d even add LOVE LIES BLEEDING
My favorite neo western is breaking bad.
I went in knowing that it wouldn't be a complete story so I had a good time with it. I'm looking forward for Part 2.
❤I LOVED IT!!!!! Have seen it twice and am going back again today. Spectacular! Homage to westerns. Gorgeous film. This is going to be a classic. The French got it right when they gave it a 10 minute ovation at Cannes!
This was an epic beginning to the saga. It’s a story of the most important struggle of American history. So good. How are you not emotionally floored by the action of the attacks in the beginning and the the end? I can’t wait for the next chapter.
Epic beginning? Nope. Saw it tonight. It was a lame Hallmark channel western.
Going to disagree. I thought this was the quickest 3 hours I've sat through since LOTR. I thought this was great, each storyline kept me enthralled and I had no issues following nor engaging with the characters or the story. I did feel the montage at the end felt awkward...but I'll give it a pass. No frustration here and very satisfied. Part 2 here I come! It might not end up being a commercial success, but I think it will have long legs...I hope so.
I'm totally with you. I saw it yesterday and never felt the length of the film and rarely felt the desire to check the time. While it may not be perfect I thought that overall it was excellent. It will be a cinematic tragedy if Costner is not able to finish the story.
Agreed. There is so much going on and I had no problem following the story and characters
Maybe this is one of those things is that it will be better when you can watch them all sequentially with no time between.
that's a long binge
We getting blood clots with this one😂
If he gets to make all 4 of these movies, that would be epic, but these first two definitely need to perform to make that happen.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock he’s already shooting the third one.
This is a great movie with a good start and I really look forward to the rest of the movies as all the story lines unfold..!
i really liked this first part. i was invested in the characters and storyline and the 3h went by fast and entertaining! Bravo Kevin Costner, i'm in for Part 2!
Western in this day n age is a tuff sell for the Theatre. We're saturated with comic book movies and regurgitating IP's. This prolly wud have been better off as a tv series. Unfortunately people aren't running out to the theatre to see westerns. Rooting for him tho.
For western enthusiasts, thankfully we have so many classics to enjoy, but I totally agree that a big sweeping western is a really tough sell in the international marketplace in 2024. But who knows, Costner still might get the last laugh and complete his quartet of movies. I'll be following the behind-the-scenes every step of the way.
It’s not that it’s a western, it’s that it’s not a full story m, you’re going out to the movies to not get ANY conclusions. That’s frustrating.
Saw it the other day and really enjoyed it. This was introduction of the beginning of about 4-5 storylines in the beginning of groups that migrated west and starting new and dealing with Native Americans! I can see how they will all intersect by the end of the SAGA!
James, have you seen the Australian western - 'The Proposition'?
Guy Pearce, Danny Huston, Ray Winstone, John Hurt, Emily Watson, David Gulilpil & Noah Taylor.. written by Nick Cave.
It's only taken me 19 years to see it, but a great, gritty, mean movie.
Thanks for all the recommendations at the end of the video. Haven’t seen many of them
Definitely more for old school western junkies but I'm a fanatic for the westerns of Sam Peckinpah, Anthony Mann, John Ford, Budd Boetticher, Sergio Leone, Howard Hawks, Sergio Corbucci and many more.
Been looking forward to this bro ever since it was announced in 2022 gonna see four movies
I'll be there for all 4 as well. I'm rooting for Costner all the way even if I had issues with the first chapter.
I see four storylines in this film with the following leads - Sienna Miller, Luke Wilson, Kevin Costner, Jeff Fahey ("Tracker").
I thought his last good western was "open Range". So g ood.
Watched it recently. He and Duvall were so great together.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock I lov e the scene with the note on the door and I loved when he tells him his first name. I watch that movie about 1 time a year. Along with Kelley's Heroes.
Obviously. So good and underrated
I, unfortunately, agree with your review. I just got back from seeing it and I thought it was gonna be a homerun for Costner. It has so many good things going for it but it fails at having any sort of a solid story foundation or having any interesting or compelling characters to care about. So, I honestly couldn't give it more than a 5 out of 10. I am somewhat curious and am willing to give Chapter 2 a chance but I fear (and am fairly certain) it will just be more of the same. I'd be surprised if this ended up doing well in the box office as I'm sure word will get out about it's subpar charcters and story. Definitely heard someone snoring in my theater when I watched it.
I'm sorry to hear that you had as underwhelming an experience as I did. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have advised Costner to focus on his character every step of the way as he gradually encounters all the other characters in the story.
Don't agree
It's LIKE Vignettes
A beginning of threads that has various storylines that appears it will weave together and it's in an edge of something unique and will become a tapestry
I'm on the Ride
The deal is he conflicted with Yellowstone executives or writers and directors. He didn't like where it was going. He's been planning Horizon since the 1980's. I think we need to bring back old school movies cuz what they make today mainly in trash. Kevin brought me to the big screen
Thanks for this review. It's sad the film is not that good.
Respect to Kevin Costner for making these films with his own money but sadly passion alone isn't enough to craft a good story.
Side note: I love westerns, I wish we had another prestige tv series like Deadwood focusing on my personal favorite old west person James Butler "Wild Bill" Hickok. Still breaks my heart they cancelled Deadwood...fucking suits...
I've seen Deadwood 3 times all the way through and it gets better each and every time I see it. Definitely one of the best shows HBO has ever made.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock 100% right. I'm currently on my third watch. xDD
I get new details and nuances every time. David Milch is I think the best tv writer when it comes to dialogue and probably characterization too. What a genius man.
Have you seen it? It’s so a mix of Deadwood, plus Dances, plus Yellowstone.
This was just the setup and it was beautiful.
I like Kevin's view point of Westerns. He shows the perspective of Native people vs the whites coming in the destroy it all. Most old Westerns don't have this interesting thought process.
I loved this unique and ambitious project. I was able to follow it just fine. In fact, i hope theres a longer version of Chapter 1 so that we can thoroughly enjoy the authentic feeling of this movie. And i cant wait for Chapter 2, 3 and 4.
And personally, i think Dances With Wolves still deserved Best Picture over Goodfellas. BUT WHAT A YEAR for movies right?
The thing that made old westerns so good is that they focused on shootouts first and story second
Went to see Quiet Place Day One and thought it was another good prequel after Furiosa but not as good as Furiosa
I loved the first A Quiet Place. I felt like I had been hit by a bus after watching it.
This should definitely be series.
That's the way it felt it in theater. You could almost feel the commercial breaks as the film cut between different storylines.
You can't really judge this as one movie. The story will take all 4 parts to tell.
Interested in the film always looking for a good new western. Unfortunately In my area (from u.k.) it’s only being shown in my local cinema one night. On the same night they are showing re-release of Network which I haven’t seen. Tough choice but gotta go with Network I think. Seeing kinds of kindness also tomorrow which after your review I’m very excited for!
Network is one of my all-time favorite movies so I would make precisely the same decision in your shoes.
Good to know! Very excited to see it! I’m a huge fan of 70s cinema also. Your recent video on Chinatown was excellent by the way.
I agree, James. I think you made some good points here. I largely enjoyed the movie, but it was underwhelming. I’ll be watching the other parts and hope for the best.
Was intrigued when I heard about it in theaters but I didn’t watch it until now, I am looking forward to part 2
I liked this movie. I think it will be regarded as a great move in a few years.
However, the issue is, to paraphrase a Costner movie, "If build it well, they still won't come unless there is interest."
I wanna see this just to see the sequels. I watched the Searchers and man that was brilliant. Hopefully Kevin won't do too many independent western films and make some other genres of kick ass blockbusters.
It wouldn't surprise me if he takes a big acting gig in someone else's movie to help finance Chapter 4.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock 😂 He's gonna have do porn to make up for it.
Taylor Sheridan apparently bought a giant ranch for 340 million. Perhaps Costner wondered why he wasn't paid more for Yellowstone.
Sounds like a true clash of the titans. I'm a fan of both filmmakers so I'm not taking sides.
It has NOTHING to do with money and Costner DID NOT QUIT . IT WAS DUE TI FILM SVHEDULING..Taylor Sheridans Production.comosny WASITED TOO MUCH TIME creating SIX other series(Tulsa King , Mayor of Kingstown, 1883 ,1923 & Bass Reaves in the time he inly turned out only 1and 1/2 seasons of Yellowstone. WHY should Constner have to out his career on hold for 14 MONTHS with NO FILMING on Yellowstone? It is why he finally left.
Taylor is the writer, producer and showrunner of Yellowstone, Mayor of Kingtown, 1883, 1993, Lioness, Tulsa King and Landman. Kevin and his investors just Lost $100 million on Horizon 1 and the 'saga' is toast.
Huge Costner fan and I wanted to love this film. It was very hard to stay engaged. You explained it perfectly. I will see this through since I respect and love Costner but this was a absolute mess
I wasnt fond of the aspect ratio. I thought maybe the "projector" might have made an error with adjusting the screen. Nor did i like the bright digital photography. Westerns work best on film. Im sure it was cheaper to shoot on digital here. The locations are beautiful though. The story was a little disjointed to me. And im not talking about the 3 different storylines. Within the separate stories i was a little confused at times. I didnt feel for most of the characters. They were not all that compelling. The music was good. I had so many questions in response to what was going on, on the screen which was not a good sign while watching. It was just ok. I feel like maybe it wouldve been better as an amazon movie. Sorry, because it felt like one. I feel like the characters in Sheridan's 1883 were better. I'll probably see the next installments just because. This aint no Lonesome Dove. This isnt Dances with Wolves or Open Range. I give this first installment maybe a 6.5/10. Yeah i have high standards i guess. A few days ago i saw the Good the Bad and the Ugly on the big screen. As great a filmmaker as Costner should be... he's no Sergio Leone. He's no John Ford. He aint even Walter Hill. Horizon is missing what makes a movie into Cinema. The direction was flat. I dont see much craft in the filmmaking process here. I hope it gets better because i unfortunately was not impressed.
Im gonna see it. But what you say is very valid.
Here's my take as a "theater fan." Ive noticed the options playing in my theater are quite different than what they used to be 5 years ago.
Tons of re releases, foreign films ( near me Indian), some religious films, some Japanese anime once a month. Boxing matches, Jake Paul, Ufc events.
So i started looking at the theater experience differently. More like an outlet. I wouldn't mind watching a Yellowstone, sopranos or true detective ( season 1,2 or 3 ) series on a big screen ( on its first run.)
Success will be about what they were expecting to get back. Im sure theyll sell some streaming rentals, then streaming rights.
Yup! The trailer alone proves that it's a streaming quality project. So I'm gonna wait for streaming to give it a shot. Dunno what Costner was thinking to distribute it into theaters.
I think after 'Dances with Wolves' won 7 Oscars, he's wanted another big prestigious hit ever since. My guess is that after making piles of cash from 'Yellowstone', he figured it was now or never.
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, it’s well worth the 3 hrs showing all sides of the history of the time, it’s a show needed for the time, where both sides have bad people there aren’t just white hats and black hats
When is Wrong Reel coming back?
These days I think of Wrong Reel more as a state of mind like Chinatown as described by Robert Towne, so I slapped the Wrong Reel intro on my latest interview with Bill Teck and Rob Cotto: czcams.com/users/liveXWTjPdDwxp0
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Bummer. That was my favorite podcast.
@@hunterdean4766I listen to James’ videos as audio, and it fills like a hybrid form.
I don't understand how a big film can have a weak screenplay, especially from a cinephile like Cosnter.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Well then could you put these longer form videos up in podcast form so we can listen to them on podcast sites?
Great review, James! I will pass on this one in cinema and wait until it is streaming. Have a good weekend, sir.
Have a good weekend as well! Thanks for checking out my review!
did you check Kalki 2898 AD? It's really good
I went to see it on Wednesday but I fell asleep a few times around the halfway mark and left. Apparently I missed all the good stuff in the second half. Seeing the Indian action movie 'Kill' on Tuesday.
Both films cost 100M in the aggregate. Costner is banking on the first film bringing word of mouth in anticipation for the second film. I think you're right - he's thinking that the Yellowstone fan base will go see this movie and it will turn a profit if they show up.
Costner is pushing 70. He’s won 2 Oscars and enjoyed a decade as the most sought after leading man in Hollywood. His legacy is locked in. Dude wants to spend his own money for his passion project, let him. FFS, wasn’t his career also supposed to be over after Waterworld and Postman?
Yellowstone resurrected his career but then he up and quit the show thinking he could be a Big Leading Movie Star again. He failed all around.
I can't stand the old school John Wayne (the creepy McCarthy squealing rat) westerns but I do enjoy some of the modern ones like Hell or High Water & Bone Tomahaw.. It looks like Ridley Scott will be directing S.Craig Zahler modern Gothic western Wraiths of the Broken Land, can't wait
S.C.Zahler should be better known. His movies can be a little slow at times and after being Marveled out, maybe I need that.
I love el dorado and true grit Wayne was gr8 in those
Your taste blows because John Wayne has some great movies.
Revisionist westerns they are called, because they arent even remotely real westerns, they are cartoons. You would love buster scruggs.
@@EthanFaidley So what type of Western is Brookback Mountain ... a man on man buddy one ... a buckaroo one ... a git your teeth one ... especially when they are only wearing their chaps 🤠😳😱
I saw the movie last night....SPOT ON WITH THE REVIEW HERE! HORIZON MAY BE A TRAIN WRECK IN THE MAKING, BUT I WILL STAY LOYAL TO THIS WESTERN SAGA. 🤠💣💥🎬
I hope this is a success in theaters. Nice to see movies on the big screen again. This movie has it's good and bad points. It should have been and series though. Hard to follow when you have to keep coming back.
It is a great movie and Western! Can’t wait for Part 2. The critics, on the average, have been too hard on this film. Decide for yourself!
I feel like im one of the only ones understanding horizon isnt so much a town as it is the name the movies given to the symbolism of manifest destiny.
Fired up to see this one tomorrow
Chapter 2 right around the corner in 6 weeks as well.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Recently read Tom Clavin’s books on Dodge City, Tombstone & Wild Bill. I would definitely recommend them
@@mjduncanthesmall1094 Very cool! I've never read any of his stuff but much obliged for the heads up. Picked up Richard Stark's 'The Hunter' today and I'm fired up to get into that world.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock That sounds right up my alley, going to have to add it to my list!
@@mjduncanthesmall1094 The movies 'Point Blank' and 'The Outfit' are based on the series.
So basically the movie wasn’t what you wanted it to be. It didn’t fit the formula you have in your mind so you’re saying it’s bad.
No. He was spot on with everything he said. Did you even watch it?
@TheCryptoKeeper I watched it and thought it was excellent. I can't wait for Part II and hope to heaven that Costner is able to finish Parts III and IV.
@@sorenpx my thoughts as well. I’m going to go watch part 1 again in a week or two.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I definitely support that. It doesn't look like the film is on track to do well financially at all. If Costner is not able to raise the money to finish it then I really hope Netflix or some other streamer steps in to help, with the agreement that Parts III and IV will premiere on their service.
@@sorenpx I hope so too. I feel like way more people would watch it streamed even though seeing it in the theater is a must in my opinion.
I see a box office bomb on the Horizon.
Even more interesting is going to be the performance of Part II in August. We're in unusual territory here, but I'll still be first in line for Part II irrespective of my issues with Part I.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock Line? There won’t be no line, pardner.
@@ziggy8253wasn’t Costner supposed to be ruined 30 years ago when Waterworld came out?
@@bobcobb3654 He wasn't ruined. It just signaled the end of Costner as the Lead actor able to carry Big movies. The Postman and Horizon confirmed it.
I love this movie. It's a fantastic movie. Keep routing for Horizon brother. We love you❤
Hey James, the main actor from Salaar has a new film out Kalki 2898, you might like it.
I was really excited to see it. Big fan of Prabhas and I'm fired up for 'Salaar Part Two'. But with 'Kalki 2898 AD', I went to the theater yesterday and ended up falling asleep several times around the halfway point. I decided it wasn't for me and left the theater.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock
Damn, I can understand. It was 3 hours long after all. The first half being really slow is apparently an unanimous opinion here. That said, the second half is where the film actually kicks, & the 3rd half is where it shines.
@@ngultrum1 Damn, well I'll definitely watch the second half when it drops on some digital platforms. The next Indian movie I have on my calendar is 'Kill' which I'm seeing on Tuesday.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock
Oh yeah, that'll be a good watch.
Cannot disagree with you more. So off base.
I watched it, and I’ll probably pay to watch it again in theaters - one of the few films I’ve ever considered doing 2 viewings.
The complaints I hear are the kind of complaints that make me think a reviewer isn’t that intelligent.
If you’re complaining about the inter-connected story arcs, either 1) you’re too stupid to realize this is a multi-part epic, 2) you’re too stupid to have actually noticed that the final scenes clearly show that all these people are converging on Horizon, or 3) you’re too stupid to follow multiple storylines.
The acting is solid, the visual storytelling is captivating, the music is swelling, the mix of action and romance and adventure is well-balanced, it’s truly a proper epic and a true-to-form Western that knows exactly what makes Westerns work.
“Deconstruction Westerns” are so derivative and stale now, seeing Costner (King of the Modern Western) breathe life into the true Western is great.
Snap read my comment. Reviewers in general are as dumb as ....Costner is not stupid. When part too comes out many will be claiming to see part 1 hopefully it Will build momentum and make money outside the theatre.
Gorgeous movie! I've seen it twice already, & can't wait for Chapter 2. What a treat to see it in all it's magnificence, yet authenticity.
The movie flopped, lost $100 Million and the 'saga' is cancelled. It's already on HBOMax.
Think I liked chapter 1 way more than you did. It wasn't trash like killers of the flower moon.
Well I was never bored and I'll definitely be seeing Chapter 2 in August, but if someone asked me what is the plot of the movie, I would struggle to give a decent synopsis.
What? I can give a synopsis easily: the Southwest settlement of Horizon is attacked and razed by Natives. The army leads survivors back to the nearby fortified outpost, where a woman widowed from the attack begins to fall for a young officer. Meanwhile, local natives are split over how to handle the inevitable wave of white settlers. Up north in Wyoming, a woman attempts to kill her abusive husband and flees with their baby, but he survives and begins a family-driven hunt for revenge on the woman and baby. The baby escapes death with a young prostitute, assisted by Costner. Lastly, a wagon train makes its way through wild western Kansas, beset by looming external and internal dangers.
However, all roads lead to the settlement of Horizon as the characters of the three arcs all begin to converge on the little patch of settlement.
It’s three simple storylines that begin to converge on a common location. Not hard. It’s basically LotR Two Towers. If you can follow that, you can follow this movie.
@CatholicSamurai That's what I'm thinking to. By the end, of the Saga, I personally believe all characters will become entangled with each other or they'll cross paths in some way shape or form. I believe he wanted to build it up to them all being within the same area. I personally think the story and writing was brilliant, but I am hoping that it connects them all in some way, that way the movie doesn't jump back and forth so much. Overall I thought it was a great, grounded and entertaining western.
Exactly. Everything you said.
This is going to cost both Coppola and Costner around 80 million plus in losses, maybe more as each film flops, but I’m sure apocalypse now and dances with wolves made more than that anyway so neither of them will ever be worrying about the gas bill like you are. These guys are so rich they can burn 100 million quid on absolute garbage
They are so incredibly rich it’s beyond my comprehension I cant waste 10£ let alone 100 million!
It will blow more like 200 million if you add the advertising they will do to try to get a few people in to watch it.. but yeah 200 million down the toilet 🚽 🚾
@@igungfarben9612lol omg 😧 what a bozo Costner must be holly moses and even dances with wolves was a total load of permed hair foam wasn’t it
I was skeptical about Megalopolis until I saw the trailer. Now I think it might be Coppola's best flick since Dracula, but it could still end up being a financial debacle.
Kevin had private donors that gave him the first $100 million. He put in at least $38 million more to get to this point. Bottom line, Horizon still LOST $100 million. I don't know how they handle financially all those cast members that were contracted to make 2 more movies over the next 2 years. Those actors didn't schedule other jobs, so are they just screwed?
“Horizon - Part One: A Child of Fire”
Horizon - Part One : The Phantom Menace lol
😂@@whoknew2273
Lol, luckily we're not in that terrain.
is it true there are 4 chapters
Oh yes 🎉
Oh yes indeed.
I cant disagree with your critics of the movie and i do agree that this might work better as a tv series. But hot damn ill be lying if i said i didn't enjoy this film!
This movie was amazing best western in a long time, way better than anything Taylor Sheridan has done who romanticizes everything
Westerns are the only genre that will get me into a theater. And I don’t mean stupid ones like the Lone Ranger and the wild Wild West. I enjoyed the movie. And will pay to see part 2. Silverado was similar with multiple story lines.
Instead of just trying to make a good western, too many film makers are hell bent on making a "classic western," and fall way, way short.
Hi James 😊
Hi hi hi there!
The budget for chapter 1 is 50 million dollars and chapter 2 is 50 million dollars so it's 100 million for both films together.
Omg Costner must be so dumb it’s like burning 100mil
@@briansmith4520well add marketing and he’s basically shredding 200 million .. and he’s still got three “houses” - complexes
@@briansmith4520 Did Kevin bang your mom or something? You seem to be very mad at him.
And chapters 3 and 4?
@@ktom5262 chapters 1 & 2 together is 100 million and chapters 3 and 4 together is 100 million. It's 200 million for 4 movies. Most movies today cost over 200 million to make but Costner made four.
Can we call this film Kevin's Gate.
Great review and I agree with a lot of your points!
Is this a theater release?!?
Indeed. Went into wide release yesterday.
You should go see it again
If it is on digital before Chapter Two, I'll gladly rewatch it, but movies are too expensive in New York to see a movie twice unless I'm obsessed with it.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock ohok I understand all good
If i wanted 3 episodes of television id watch a show on television. Im not paying for tickets every few months because costner couldnt get anyone to pay for his show.
How can you say this is not going to do well in the box office. You are telling your audience to stay away and make this flop for Kevin. People can decide for themselves. Yes in the movie there are parts where you think what?? but it's worth seeing it through
You're totally wrong. It is a great movie. It is not a TV show. You don't understand the West.
Jai vraiment envie de voir tous les series.dhorison de kevin costner❤lacteur est une kegende❤zohra zihra
I wouldn't say this is a complete disaster but it was too choopy. Didn't get a full grasp of a few story lines. Couldn't hear most dialogue due to sound editing or something. This would go over better streaming as a series. Too long to wait for other half. The clips at the end were too fast couldn't grasp them. The Cinematography was beautiful. Women's characters were good
If you want to talk temerity, make a movie in Monument Valley without being named John Ford.
Story driven films better for streaming ? Man , you don't know what you are saying!
I'm hardly going out on a limb suggesting that movies are driven more by visual storytelling while TV is driven more by scripts. In the world of streaming and television, the writer-producer has all the power, not the director as is the case in movies.
Costner looks like he had no plastic surgery done and does not look a guy who is 70 years old.
it's about time someone takes a chance on something different AND original instead of a forced PC remake. can't wait to see it. it's clearly a set up, an introduction, to the rest of the saga so of course it doesn't have an ending.
I'm all for Costner attempting something original but 3 hours is more than enough running time to get beyond the introductory phase. That said, I'll be there for the sequel.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock it's a big story to tell. I'm good with 3 hr movies. I'm a glutton though. is it really an "epic saga" it's it's only 120 min?
@@gbgary When Last of the Mohicans first came out theatrically it had a running time of 112 minutes but definitely still felt like an epic.
Honest review and I enjoy westerns. However, I'm not at all recommending this movie.
I just watched this and it was HORRIBLE. 3 hours of complete disappointment. It severely lacked a storyline, three characters were forgettable and it was so poorly dragged out. There were movie giers that walked out of this. Save your time and your money. SKIP THIS. After the reviews of this film, they may want to cancel the part 2 being released this August. I wish we could get our money back. Kevin Costner did nothing for his acting in this. It may be the worst he's done and I have been a fan.
I think this is a Waterworld-like situation where how long this Horizon series going to last at the box office because Horizon isn’t been getting great reviews and seeing this is a passion project for Kevin Costner, I think Horizon: An American Saga (Chapter One) is looking to be another massive box office flop for WB after both The Watchers and Furiosa failed to break even. He’s going to have competition against the heavyweight champion of Pixar movies, Inside Out 2, looking to be the first billion dollar movie of 2024 and A Quiet Place: Day One looking to grab the #1 spot this week. I’m not going to see Horizon, I’ll just wait for the digital/streaming release. Instead, I’m going to see A Quiet Place and Kinds Of Kindness. Thelma is also in theaters and It’s one of the best movies of the year (so far) if anyone haven’t seen the movie.
I keep hearing good things about Thelma and definitely need to check it out. Kinds of Kindness I throughly enjoyed although it is a tad on the long side.
Its nothing like water world as thats a dam good film original funny and entertaining
Waterworld actually did make a lot of money for 1995 and was one of the highest grossing movies that year but the problem is that the movie went over budget, and it underperformed in theaters. Still made a profit overall after it was released on VHS.
@@Mickey-1994it made money on home video and has gained a cult following, but the massive financial loss of Waterworld signaled the end of Costner’s A-list leading man career (that and the ill-conceived The Postman in 1997)
Side note: Costner almost died on-set filming Waterworld, which is why the behind the scenes stuff was a mess.
@@KadeemG61 His star power did cool off in the late 90s but he never stopped being an A lister or leading man. It's not like he started doing a bunch of straight to video B movies like Bruce Willis or John Travolta.
This is why Kev had a lengthy Divorce settlement then lol
Costner must be so detached from reality to do this on not one but four crappy dumb bs films
@@briansmith4520 You have watched all four movies including the two that haven't been filmed yet? That is amazing.
@@BishopWalters12 will anyone watch them in a cinema ? I predict a colossal failure and they never even get made the plug is pulled at 2 flops costing Costner over 200 million. Let’s see 🪑 ⌚️
@@BishopWalters12 yeah like in 2024 everyone is going to rush down to watch a pack of lies about the “bad “ aka indigenous Indians shooting Costner and his permed up “”law makers” … lol 😂 the guys a completely out of touch muppet it’s going to cost him dear
Are you dense sir. What is so wrong with doing something different with an ending. And who cares that the film is not a stand alone film that it plays like an episode. It states so clearly going in...are reviewers so stupid that they have not got the brains to take all this into account. It is a fact that Hollywood treats its audience as stupid and has to point out things. Costner is clever he makes the viewer want to see part 2.
Lord of The Rings is one film divided into 3 so why not Horizon...come on sir, the movie industry was developed by people like Costner have you become so nulled by Hollywood's bland samness that you can't take innovation?
Went to see it tonight. Poorly made. Only six or so people in the theater room. Almost every one else were 80 years old or older. This movie is trending old people. Had a Hallmark/Mormon channel look. Ugh.
I liked young guns💚🇬🇧🌱
That was my first western in the theater as a kid. Then I watched it countless times on HBO.
Horrible....... I watch everything..... and this was the worst of the year
.... oh shit he is done, I didn't know he bet it all on this
Worst of the year for me so far is 'Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver' but the year is only halfway over, lol. Who knows what else might be coming our way?
What the absolute fuck was that ending montage? It seemed like something a big studio would force a filmmaker to do. I don't need or want spoilers to get me back. I'm rooting for Horizon though not yet sure if it deserves it. I'm rooting for Westerns in general and regret not paying to see The Dead Don't Hurt a few weeks ago. Based on reviews it might have been the better movie.
I loved the montage. It’s meant to reinforce to viewers that there’s more to come in the story and gives them something go look forward to.
And it had absolute banger vibes.
Do you not like movie trailers either?
@@CatholicSamurai I like movie trailers. This would have been better placed mid or end credits. It was no substitute for an ending.
@@tjk3430 you mean after everyone has already left the theater?
Or do you think every movie is a marvel movie?
Also, it’s literally called “Chapter 1” in the opening title. It’s not meant to be an ending. Do you hate LotR Fellowship and Two Towers too?
@@CatholicSamuraiI had this thought on another thread. Younger audiences are trained to wait for stingers and likely much of K.C.'s audience is not. It would have been better to leave it out entirely.
The way you're responding reminds me of the scene in the movie when Matthew (Luke Wilson) scolds Juliette (Ella Hunt) & she gets apoplectic in response when she was in the wrong. Except in this case it's the opposite. You're stepping up to me like Mathew trying to teach me a lesson I learned long ago from much better teachers. No reason to be a prick.
@@tjk3430 ok sure bud 🙄😂
He gives spoilers, don’t watch review unless you’ve seen the movie.
And I give a warning before that spoiler. Chill.
@@geekinwithJamesHancock yea and when is the spoiler part over exactly? I tapped forward and have no idea if you're done talking spoilers or not. Ruined the review dude.
Dude you are wildly undersources about your Cinemax history. Knowledge. sue-gee-o Lee-on-A. Having said that. New Line Cinema canceled the 2nd installment