Radiation Map of First Atomic Bomb Site
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I went back to the Trinity site to map the radiation of ground zero using a Radiacode 101. Was great meeting people that had seen the video I did about the site the year before.
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Drew, maybe I can answer some of the questions your viewers are posing. I'm the guy in the orange vest in your video in front of the "Free Answers" table at the southside of GZ. I've been doing Trinity Site open houses and answering questions since 1977. Concerning the collecting of Trinitite......Trinity Site is a National Historic Landmark on U.S. Army property as designated by the National Park Service. The NPS has no say in what happens at the site but the Army has implementing regulations and rules governing such sites on their property. Basically it amounts to the same kind of protection you'd see at one of the NPS historic sites. That means you cannot collect the artifacts associated with the history of the site. I can't think of an item more tied to the history of the site than the Trinitite. Nobody is going to let you collect the doorknobs at the Schmidt/McDonald ranch house just like they will prevent you from stealing arrowheads and bullets from the Little Bighorn battlefield. That is why I had the sign made before I retired about removing the Trinitite being a federal crime. Of course, theft is not limited to the inner fenced area. The Trinity landmark is thousands of acres and it is ALL protected. There is nothing magic about the gate and the inner fence. The sign is placed at the one area that everyone will see as they enter GZ.
Number 2 - your map is lopsided because the area is nothing like it was in 1945. Before the Atomic Energy Commission turned over control of the area to White Sands, they bulldozed GZ to mix up the Trinitite with sand and basically bury most of it. That moving sand and glass back and forth left some areas rich in Trinitite and some without much. Also, of course, some Trinitite is more radioactive than other pieces depending on where the glass was formed in the fireball. Bill Kolb mapped radiation at GZ years ago so it will be interesting to see what differences there are, if any.
Number 3 - the site is only open 2 days year because it is a big, expensive, pain in the rear for White Sands to do it. The place is still an active military test range for the Army, Air Force, Navy and others. They have to shut down everything for a few days because it takes time to get the site set up and then they have to pay all those people overtime to work that day. Its pretty expensive plus you've got dozens of people rather be home with families on a Saturday or out fishing, etc. When I started we only opened once a year. In the 80s we added the one in April, trying to spread the crowds because they were getting way too big for what little infrastructure we had. This last April there were 3,800 visitors which is a number that the site can handle but is pushing the limit for visitors having a decent experience. When it gets over 4,000 it gets pretty awful for visitors as the lines to get in, the lines to find a parking places, the lines to catch a bus to the ranch house get way tooooo long.
Jim Eckles
Thanks for all that additional info Jim. The radiation map makes sense knowing what they did to ground zero after the test. It would also maybe suggest that the radiation at the center of the site might be more intense the further down you go. Also that the center of the site maybe didn't get as much dirt covered on top of it as the outside edges did.
On a separate note...were you the same guy I ran into at the Nuclear Science and History Museum a couple days after Trinity.
Thank you for time and answering my questions and my groups questions and chatting with us it was so cool getting to talk with an expert I bought your books they are coming next week in the mail!
@@CaptianMoePedro Thanks for buying the book. I really need to update it as I keep learning new things and those details should be added. If you have more questions, holler.
Thank you for what you do Jim. I’m looking forward to seeing you both hopefully next April. Your a gift Jim.
The soldiers don’t get overtime lol
It's a fun past time , I mapped the center of a town where I lived for a while. They bought all the paving granite from China, it was very nicely active
Wow…that’s interesting.
Certain types of granite slabs in a friends house in nsw australia were quite active too. They were older people at the time but both had thyroid problems and both died of cancer. I hated visiting their house as a kid. Glad i never stayed inside much.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi you wouldn't get thyroid cancer from granite slabs. Iodine 131 exposure is what can make its way into your thyroid and turn it cancerous. Iodine 131 is a manmade isotope and doesn't occur in nature.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Living in an area with granite bedrock that contains trace amounts of Uranium (and decay products) usually means that Radon gas will get into your basement, and thus the need to install a radon mitigation system.
“Need” is a very strong word when talking about radon mitigation. The vast majority of houses that have radon have levels that are so low they pose zero risk to anyone.
I'm standing at the tent at @5:21 !! Really wish I'd known you were going back, your videos in particular made visiting Trinity a priority for me, and it would be great to ask you some questions and thank you for all your efforts and work in person!
Sorry I missed you. I might go back next year. I'll post more about those plans later.
If you ever get the chance, come to Maralinga in South Australia, where the British detonated nuclear weapons in the late 1950s and early 1960s. I did a tour of the site a few years ago and it was fascinating. Most areas are cleaned up, but one site is still littered with Trinitite. It's a very long way from Adelaide however, so you have to be super keen to visit like I was.
That sounds cool. I'll have to try and make plans to visit the site one of these days soon.
I worked for WSMR for a few years and had to drive up to Stallion a few times. It was usually quiker to drive up range road 7 to get there and I was tempted to swing by Trinity Site even though I would only be able to stand outside the fence... but never did as there was work to be done. Now I don't have range access so I have to go when everyone else does.
I thought about going this time but it wasn't to be. Next open housr will be in October - the weekend after the annular eclipse that'll pass right over Albuquerque - so I plan on finally making the trip out then.
Its a cool site to check out. Its much more fun if you have a Geiger counter of some kind.
Glad to see it's cooled down so much over the years. And it is wild that you can collect outside of the gates. Well not that they let you but that nobody is stopping you! I may have to make that a priority visit and get out there and see it for myself! Thank you for the mapping. It is really interesting to see what the levels are at, already, at ground zero. Thanks Drew!
The government discovered that the least expensive way to dispose of nuclear waste was to tell the public they couldnt have any :P
My sister and brother in law, both Air Force, lived in Alamagordo. They made the time to visit Trinity and sent back a DVD and info packet. I would love to visit the site, if only to be able to stand where such a nuclear detonation took place and attempt to imagine the enormity of the energy that was created. As a photoscience professional, I've had the opportunity to see some high speed images (at an EG&G facility) of the first few moments following detonation. Such an alien thing to see the glowing of the fireball in a building followed by its expansion until it consumed the building.
I dig your videos man. I had "discovered" uranium glass just a year or two ago while in an antique shop near my house, and went down a youtube rabbit hole where found your channel Ha ha. Good stuff!
The subject of radiation is a pretty deep rabbit hole.
It is amazing those scientists only had their intuition and theories, no computer simulations, no accurate data collection, still made it to work.
They had real data...it wasn't all theories. You could measure the fission rates with the plutonium they made. It was a lot of science, engineering and good old fashion research that got them to the finish line. Theories started it off.
It’s fascinating to speculate just how much of what went on at Trinity (or Los Alamos, etc.) all the tourists milling around actually know. There’s a whole lot of background readily available. For a one volume, very well-written on this subject, I recommend ‘The Making of the Atomic Bomb’ by Richard Rhodes.
great video as always bro, im sure a decent percentage of the people there have come because of your videos
I would like to think so.
Thanks putting in the work on these videos. Really informative.
No problem…I enjoy making these videos.
Drew, i recently came across your channel and as a science enthusiast i must say that this is by far most intriguing and fascinating topic i ever came across, the way you narrate and present the videos is commendable. Its like watching a high grade documentary movie. Longing to meet you some day. Much love from India brother.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Another great video,seems such a short time ago that you only had 700 subscribers and now you’re almost 40,000 congratulations it’s about time ‼️what about breathing in that dust 🧐that can’t be good ? Thanks 👍👍
What about breathing in the dust ❓that can’t be good for you 🧐
I don’t think much contamination is in the dust. Maybe after the explosion there was more contamination. I checked my boots and didn’t have any contamination.
Thank you Drew, great to see a revisit to this site.
It was great going back.
I just found this channel, and I'm absolutely fascinated! Thank you for letting me live vicariously through you!
Glad you found the channel.
Nice informative video, thanks for including the doserate and dose numbers in Sv, making radiation relatable in my brain 😉. keep up the good work.
Lots of people were requesting sieverts…so I try and include them when I can.
Hoping to get there for the October opening. This has been on my bucket list.
Thanks for the interesting and informative videos.
Thanks for the videos, really enjoyed them
Thanks for watching them.
Hi this is Thierry from the Netherlands. Awesome channel glad I found it!
Glad you found the channel.
What a cool video project this is Drew, ticks all the boxes mate for a very entertaining video.
Thanks...glad you liked it.
It was so cool to make it out there since i saw your video on the Trinity site a few years back I made it a goal to make it out there! Im so glad i made the trek from Nor Cal all the way our there. Equally cool was getting a chance to see you and meet you! The mapping you nade was really intriguing! Interesting that it varies that much across ground zero!
It’s was really cool meeting all the people that had seen the other video.
Interesting as always. Thanks!
Glad you found it interesting.
This is as close as I'll ever get to the Trinity site. Thanks for bringing us along for the watch. Cheers.
Nice. Thanks for the tour.
No problem.
Awesome video Drew! It was great meeting you out there this last open house. I too noticed that some areas were "hotter" than others while I was there. Hopefully I'll see you there again next time?
Nice meeting you as well. I might make it out next year.
Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Very cool!
Thanks for doing this, Drew. I would love to see similar maps for other sites, like the test sites in Nevada.
They wouldn’t let me do something like this there.
@@RadioactiveDrew And I just realized that was underground testing, which would not be too interesting on the surface. I wonder if anyone had done mapping around Nagasaki or Hiroshima?
As far as I know those sites have almost no additional radiation from those bombings. Has to do with the altitude at which those bombs were detonated. Still I would like to check it out for myself.
With the 3/11 event, I'd think mapping the return areas in Fukushima would be more fun. I've heard that they have been trucking the bags of contaminated soil to other prefectures to bury, which is bringing the baseline radiation up across the entire island.
Great video, I so want to visit the Trinity site as have always had a bit of a fascination with Radiation and anything Nuclear. I'm currently working my way through the audio book of American Prometheus in preparation for Chris Nolan's Oppenheimer this Summer.
I'm absolutely hooked. 😊
Makes me want to continue learning more about the first Atomic Bomb and Oppenheimer in particular.
I'm from England and I've never visited The States before and as much as I'd love to go to all the tourist places like Disney and other parks, I'm more interested in going to the Trinity site and also the Titan missile base/museum.
All so interesting.
Love your channel and looking forward to more videos 😊
Really glad you like the videos. If you do come to visit the site check out the Nuclear Science and History Museum along with the town of Los Alamos.
@@RadioactiveDrew Thanks for the suggestions 😊
Great video Drew. Nice work on the mapping. Interesting to see the results.I wonder if there are any published goverment or mining aerial radiation maps of the whole area showing downwind radiation levels ?
That would be interesting to see.
nice video. love the mapping. so happy you found some fans and they came. now people are learning the facts .maybe do a trip to Japan or Ukraine some time. Kile Hill and a bunch of others has and posted videos .I hope to visit some places as well.
Due to the ongoing issue in Ukraine, it might be a while before a lot of people go there
Thanks for posting, going to have to time my next visit to the US with the opening of the site !!.
There are also some other cool areas to check out if you do come to the open house. The Nuclear Science and History museum is in Albuquerque, 2 hours to the north and there's also Los Alamos an hour north from there.
Pretty cool Drew! Nice work sir...
Thanks.
New subscriber from Italy. I'd love to visit those places one day. Nice informative video.
Thanks for subscribing.
Wow, I’m so bummed. I was also there for the March ‘23 opening, based upon your last Trinity video from the fall of ‘22. I was joking to myself that I might see you and here it is you were actually there. I stayed in Alamogordo and got up early to get a spot in the convoy entering from the Tulie gate on the East side that goes across the base. It took 2.5 hours to traverse the base and the vistas were incredible. The convoy is a one-way excursion, so we too had to exit through the northern Stallion gate. The entire circuit was close to 275 miles from Alamogordo. The next day (Sunday) I went the short drive up the mountain to Cloudcroft and then to Sunspot, where the national Solar observatory was having its open house with actual access and viewing of the solar monitoring system and optics benches. Two entirely different nuclear sites, albeit the latter one was a remote monitoring site from 93 million miles distant, on two consecutive days just a short drive apart.
The sad bit was that I ordered a radiacode in Nov ‘22, based upon your featuring it, and it finally arrived and was waiting for me when I got home from New Mexico. It only took 4 months. My goal was to perform that very same survey!
Perhaps if you go again this fall or next spring your interested subscribers attending could have an informal meet-up and compare obscure monitoring gear?
I have been thinking of a possible meet up next year for the Springtime Trinity Open House. I’ve never done the fall one because the weather has so far been very nice for every springtime open house. Maybe after the summer I will start putting the idea out there to people and see how much interest there is.
@@RadioactiveDrew Great idea. Please consider it. I’d make the trip out there again in order to participate.
@@RadioactiveDrew Weather-wise, the October open house is usually better. April can be windy and, sometimes, cold. Got snowed on during one of the April open houses back in the 80s.
Interesting how the overhead radiation map of the site shows a 'skewing' of the radiation levels. The left side shows a much lower level than the right. Wonder if that's caused by something in the different soils that varied it's activation levels, or just why it's so 'lopsided'. Still a fascinating part of history, thanks for sharing.
It was mostly caused by the AEC bulldozing GZ before turning it over to the military in the early 50s. That means that Trinitite, the source of the radiation, is unevenly distributed across the site to a depth of about 18 inches. There is nothing about GZ now that resembles what it was like in 1945. That inner fence was erected in the 70s simply to control the crowds of visitors and keep them from wandering all through the big area defined by the outer fence. It is an oval that has nothing to do with the size or shape of the original crater. Jim E.
Thanks!
Wow...thank you so much. Every time someone is nice enough to give money to this channel it always brings a smile to my face. Again, thank you so much...I greatly appreciate this.
trinitite the atomic glass that litter the site doesn't travel very far by wind action however, in 80 years it has traveled way beyond the blast boundary that is fenced off so there is no need to look in the fenced-off region where collecting the stuff is prohibited.
the way the wind scatters the trinitite is actually not the wind itself but the sand around it the sands move due to the wind the trinitite just rolls on the moving sands.
in the Sahara near Egypt, a meteor air blasted 100 to 400 years before King Tut it was a relatively small site about trinity size but the meteoric glass has spread over a 20-mile radius.
some of the jewels in King Tuts' grave were made of meteoric glass found at this site.
Aussie subscriber here, just noticed the ARB cap, (Aussie 4WD equipment/accessories manufacturer), another great post!
Awesome video like usual, i've got a few pieces of Trinitite up here in Canada. I'd like to get down there one day in the future but it's quite the road trip from where i am lol
You could turn it into a multi site trip. If you come down to visit the site make plans to visit the nuclear science museum and the Los Alamos area.
@@RadioactiveDrew Your current upload reminded me about this comment lol. That would most likely be what i do that, it's a little while down the road before i'd be able to anyways, so lots of time to plan.
3:25 It may not be legal to record the base in any way. Here in Australia, since 911 it's been illegal to photograph any key infrastructure, without permission. That includes power stations, power sub-stations, telecommunication buildings, parliamentary buildings and of course military bases.
We don’t have restrictions like that here in the states. Usually if you can see it from a public place you can take pictures of it.
man, this channel is gonna explode when that new Christopher Nolan movie comes out!
That would be cool.
I couldn't see for sure but if you have the 4.0 tacoma hold onto her. The 3.8L sucks and your gonna get more life out of got rig.
I dig the outlander setup you got going too, brother. Again- thanks for the content. 🤙🏽
Yep, 4.0L with 360,000 miles. Bought it new and it’s been an amazing truck. Do a lot of my own maintenance.
13:40 although negligable.. you could have mentioned or included the background radiation from the sun as well.. and even the incoming from space too :)
earned my sub :)
Funny how they don’t want you filming out front when you can pull up their exact location on Google maps and see plenty of other photos on the internet, their secret has been out for a long time.
Yeah it is kind of funny...but its just some guys doing their job.
Wow, I had no idea there was such a line to get in there... I thought of visiting some time, for some reason I thought it would be mostly vacant. Like your channel name BTW, I had an uncle named Rod, the family nick named him Radioactive Rod... he was a welder at Hanford.
Yeah the line there can be very long. But they get people in there very quickly.
6:04 I see myself and my father behind the photographer there. We found your hot spot, but I think our counter was faulty.
Which detector were you using?
@@RadioactiveDrew GQ Electronics GMC-300E+
It sucks thats the site is only open twice a year! As someone who doesn't live in the country it makes it super difficult to time a visit 😢 maybe someday
Well if you do come I would say try for the April date. I’ve had really good luck with weather every time I’ve been there.
Wow cool! Where did you get the opening footage of the bomb explosion?)
There are photos and footage part of the national archive.
got mine radiacode 102 after just 3 weeks of waiting.. nice..
I’m looking forward to testing out the Radiacode 102.
I think the guards are concerned about someone planning an attack using detailed data.
Well that is their job to think and plan for something like that.
I really wish I can go there someday. Isn't it also possible to visit Sedan crater?
You can visit the Sedan crater...but you can't take any electronics onto the site.
VEry cool!!! Radiation level mapping!!! I've been waiting for something like this... next, quadcopter version. lol. Def be a lot easier on you! ha!
It’s an idea I’ve been thinking about.
I can only imagine this site being visited even more after the Oppenheimer movie! but still! for myself it would creep me out to go out there! such mass evil destruction that they created back in ww2! but at the same time they had to come up with this bomb the other country did not want to stop the war. thank you for sharing the trinity testing site.
I wouldn’t think of this site as a place of evil. It’s a place where the world changed that’s for sure. Nuclear weapons aren’t evil. The science that was discovered at Los Alamos has had far reaching implications that aren’t limited to bombs.
i bet you like to visit that place alot!
I do…it’s always a fun experience. This last time was awesome. I met so many fans of the channel.
I would love to see one of the underground test sites they did. I heard one guy snuck in and crossed a field of them and died two years later from cancer.
Unlikely. I've stood in a crater from one of those underground nuclear tests, no adverse effects.
@@realSethMeyers How did you get the opportunity to do that? Is that something I could do if I wanted to?
They do offer tours of the Nevada Test Site. Lots of nukes were detonated there, above ground and below.
@@RadioactiveDrew Yep! Amazing tour, and free too!
@@RadioactiveDrew That's cool, I gotta do that if I'm out their.
How are the camo dudes to deal with? (Assuming that's who you talk to.)
Interesting how the yellow and red hot-points is more northwest of the monument.
I was able to buy a little piece of trinitite recently. I need to build a little wall-hanger display case for it with a little picture and a little plaque explaining it. This stuff is really fascinating.
Everyone that works at the site is very nice and happy to answer any questions you might have.
@@RadioactiveDrew That's cool they do this. Not everything up their is super locked down. There's a lot of history that took place up there and it's nice that they try to share with us as much as they can.
There is absolutely nothing they can legally do about you filming whatever you want in public. That won't stop them from trying to bully or intimidate you, though. Love your videos and all the information.
I came to post exactly this. The 1st amendment is a pesky thing to the government sometimes.
@thecohorts They really don't like it.
I don't know US law. But isn't an area like the white sands missile range, government property instead of public lands? As in, same rules outside/ inside government buildings?
@@Mediamarked He said he wasn't on the base. He was pulled off the highway just before the entrance to the base.
It would be cool to see what isotopes the radiacode was picking up
I was running a fresh spectrum while I was there…pretty sure. I’ll need to check my records.
Question: by the house what’s the danger that exists where they have the signs marked off ? What is considered a dangerous radiation reading on the Geiger counter ?
It’s about the structure being unstable.
I'm going on a road trip to Arizona on the 20th of May so I'm going to miss the trinity test site open house by over a month and half sadly but I will be up on the Mogollon Rim for a few days are there any uranium mines you know of out there
I don't know of any uranium mines in that area...but you never know. You could always look at the mines in that area and see what they were after. A good resource is mrdata.usgs.gov
Where can I get the Radiacode 101 carrying case?
I think you can get it from Radiacode.
New Mexico had a real winter this year next year can you map the white sands and see is what you find?
I’ve been to White Sands a couple times and you would need to radiation map that place from the air. On foot would take years.
The fact is everything is radioactive water air food, the very earth, since the atomic age, we eat atomic bomb derbs every day.
Welcome to our state buddy.
Awesome video! What camera do you shoot time lapse with?
That was a GroPro Hero 11.
@@RadioactiveDrew I half expected you to say you used the thorium lens or something XD Love your videos
I have a thorium lens and have done a video about it before. I want to do another video about lenses like this. Glad you like the videos.
I want to buy the same dosimeter as you have. But what is the difference between B20 and B20-ER? Which one is more sensitive?)
They are same sensitivity but the Radeye B20ER has an extended range.
6:52 the map
I also made my trek there a few years ago. Also been to Chernobyl.
I thought it would be interesting to map out Ailuk,Rongelap,Rongerik,Bikini here in the Marshalls. Rongelap, Rongerik,and Ailuk we’re all lower than 20 CPM. So…not so interesting after all.
You are awesome young man, I love your videos. Please give me a call next time you are in the Nucla Colorado area.
For sure. I might be out there this summer.
I've got a sneaky suspicion this base will be even more popular due to Oppenheimer being released.
As long as your on public property you can photograph the gate.
I realize that but sometimes you get much further by playing it cool. The security guys were really nice about the whole thing.
It’s gonna get so much busier after the movie.
These videos have started to see an uptick after that last Oppenheimer trailer came out.
You use two dosimeters the radeye b20 and the radiacode 101. What one is better in you’re opinion? I see prices are relatively different for both. But they both seem to be very good as a viewer
They have different functions. The Radeye B20 is a good compact survey meter that can detect alpha, beta and gamma radiation. The Radiacode 101 is really great at detecting gamma and some beta radiation. The Radiacode can also do gamma spectroscopy, which allows you to identify different isotopes. You can also connect it to a phone and create radiation maps like I did in this video.
Radiacode is amazing. The Gamma Spectroscopy has opened up a whole new world for me. Can not only measure radiation, but what isotope it's measuring. Now Radiacode 102.
Drew, what do you think about hiking in Norway with Geiger counter. Worth it ? Anything interesting radioactive here ?
I would be interested in hiking Norway with a Geiger counter. Personally I think having one around is a good idea...you never know what you might find. You might just find some deposits of uranium or thorium. Nothing comes to mind as a site to explore out there that might be radioactive from some event.
@@RadioactiveDrew I know that us Norwegians didnt check for radioactivity when our grandfathers dug out mines, and theres alot of these mine sites.Especially around city of Kongsberg, the biggest europe deposit of Rare Earth Metals (yet to start mining).
Im hiking alot in western Norway, yeah, I was curious about your thoughts ;) thinking of getting a geiger counter. not sure what to get.
Could be interesting hiking with this kind of equipment.
If you can get one I would look into the Radiacode 101. It’s pretty sensitive to gamma radiation and you can hook it up to your phone and have it log GPS and dose rate onto a map. Works pretty good. They are a little hard to get at the moment but I’m very happy with mine and use it all the time.
@@RadioactiveDrew gps logging would be awesome actually yeah
It’s worth the wait.
Wow? I didn’t know that site was so popular!
Seems like a lot of people saw my pervious video and wanted to see the site.
Where can one pick up one of those velcro pouches you have for the spectrometer? Seems better than shoving it in to your sock. 😛
Mine came with the Radiacode 101.
@@RadioactiveDrew Hmm. It must have been a limited run, or something. They don't even have them for sale on the site. I got mine before the conflict started and they went from Russia to Cypress. 🤷🏾♂️
I ordered mine last summer and it came with that strap holder. Not sure what else would fit it.
Odd. I'll shoot them an email and see if they have any available, or if they plan on making more, if not. I found a belt sheath lying around that fits it, but belt level is a bit too high up, IMO.
Wow it's cooled down quite a lot. Would the government cleaned the whole area up or has the radiation naturally decayed. I saw another video on nuclear power cells in russia. Can you do a video on these to explain or elaborate what these are about. These are really bad and scattered all over russia. Cheers love your videos
When the test first happened the government filled in the crater to hide it from the soviets. But that would have done very little to stop the radiation. The lessened level is mainly from radioactive decay.
I saw that video as well about the old Russian RTGs. I’ve always found those extremely fascinating. I plan to do a video about them or ones very similar.
Well those guards were full of ish trying to say you couldn't record from public property onto a military installation. If you are on the installation they can lay down rules that way but they have absolutely ZERO authority to keep you from recording anything you want while on public land.
That being said I've been there once and it started out amusing as the first cop I ran into looked at my Mustang and said he would let me in for free if I would do a burnout to the next cop. I was like hell I just got a green light. He stopped me before I got started though so no fun had that way. :)
Any idea what background radiation was BEFORE Trinity?
35 CPM / 0.08 uSv/hr.
Can anyone tell me about the large bit of metal pipe on the site? Was it there for the test?
I showed a bit more of it in my previous video about the Trinity Site. It’s called Jumbo and was built to be used as a container incase the bomb misfired so they could collect the plutonium much easier. It was never used for that purpose and was blown apart using conventional explosives after the test.
@@RadioactiveDrew Ah I see sorry i missed that last video I will check it out now. Thanks for the reply
@@RadioactiveDrew Oh yeah. If you're ever in Scotland.The Forth estuary, especially around Dalgety bay area is contaminated with WW2 Radioactive waste from submarines. I think it's Radium particles from dials, not uranium. You still can't eat shellfish from the Forth estuary because of this. Thanks again and hopefully this is an interesting story for you.
My neighbor has a Kern jar full of the glass that used to be on top of the sand at GROUND ZERO!
As far as radioactive items go, trinitite isn’t that radioactive. So it very safe to be around…just don’t eat it.
@@RadioactiveDrew the samples he has came directly after the test! They are very radioactive- so he keeps the jar in a sealed lead box! He brings it out like show n tell sometimes!
The trinitite that I measured at the site was about 20 times background radiation, which is very low as far as radioactive things go. The trinitite your neighbor has would be right around that same activity. The lead box for the storage of those pieces is unnecessary.
@@RadioactiveDrew nope he got his the day of the test! And worked directly with the Trinity project! As well as Fat man And Little Boy! Because it has been kept in his lead container the emitted radioactivity has not decreased much from the time it became elemental!
@@genehasenbuhler2594 that's not how that works. Doesn't matter how you store it...under water, in a lead box or a vacuum. The radioactive isotopes decay at a particular rate, half-life. The main radioactive isotope in trinitite is going to be Cs-137 (30 year half-life), which at this point has gone through a little over 2 half-life decay cycles since the test. So at this point in time it would be a little less than a quarter the activity it was when the test was first done.
Is it like that every day? Cars lined up forever ?
No…only 2 days out of the year is it open.
I always heard they scrapped away the top 3-feet of soil.
I’ve been told something similar…that they buried the site.
@@RadioactiveDrew They didn't simply bury the site. If they did that, there wouldn't be all that Trinitite on the surface. They brought in sand to fill the gouged out center area and then bladed and mixed the Trinitite with the surface sand. There is Trinitite down to about 18 inches.
Your on public property or outside of the active base entrance line ... Nothing they can do.😊
You’re right…but I find in these type of situations is good to be cool.
So at 7:07 the little sliver of red, is that where the obelisk is?
No, its a little Northwest of the obelisk...maybe 40 feet.
@@RadioactiveDrew gotcha. I’m gonna try to go there in October. Thanks for your replies.
@@marshallcaudle3321 no problem...hope you get to check out the site.
My RadiaCode 101 shows less radiation after latest FW update. I still dont know why they did this and what they did. My RadiaScan 701A showed always still 0.10 uSv as background.
Its energy compensating for certain gamma energies...which would make it more accurate. Before the update it would way over estimate dose from lower gamma energy sources.
@@RadioactiveDrew Thank you Drew, you are correct. Meanwhile I read a lot of pages on a german forum, where the employee of Scan Electronics is involved and explained it in detail. It is interesting that our national measurement systems in Slovakia (and many worldwide I guess) do not compensate, so the reported background is actually always higher than in reality. Thanks again, your channel content as well as video production quality has been amazing since the early beginning. God bless you Drew!
wow
I wonder how far in space the explosion wave is by now:)?
78 light years away?
Since a shock wave from any explosion is the movement of air outward, the wave would diminish as it hit the upper atmosphere and simply peter out as the molecules of gas got further and further apart.
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BTW, it's Ray-Dee-Ah-Code.
Drew if the level of radiation is so low, why is the site off limits? And how does is compare with Chernobyl and Fukushima exclusion zones?
Security and safety. The site is located within an active military range.
As I understand it, Chernobyl is by far the most contaminated nuclear accident site because of how the reactor blew up. The contamination at Fukushima isn't nearly as bad because even though 2 of the reactor buildings blew up it was only the containment building and not the reactor vessel. So the Trinity Site is nowhere even close to those other sites.
@@RadioactiveDrew I have learned so much from your videos, thanks. This is such an interesting topic, and there is so much mis/dis-formation appreciated the facts. In a future video would you talk about the different ways ionizing radiation is measured and why? Counts per minute, REMs, RADs, Becquerels, Curies and Sieverts?
According Derek/Veratasium the people exposed to the most ionizing radiation are cigarette smokers from their lungs and the radioactive elements used to fertilize tabasco. Would you agree? Derek has a list of places which the level of ionizing radiation but it’s a bit confusing. How can a smoker’s lungs be worse than other locations? czcams.com/video/TRL7o2kPqw0/video.html
@@rogerlevasseur397 Has nothing to do with the ionizing radiation levels, just that it’s an active base?
Celebrities and their groupies.
What is that cylinder at 12:40?
I talked about it a little in the previous video I did about the Trinity Site. That’s why I didn’t bring it up again. But it was a container built incase the test was a failure so they could recover the plutonium. They never used it and blew it up using conventional explosives after the test.
@@RadioactiveDrew Cool! Thanks for the reply.
I also remember hearing about them possibly using a big concrete bowl or dish to catch the plutonium if it didn't go.
Yeah that was an idea as well. I think by the time they got to testing a lot more plutonium was being produced.
Do the same in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I would watch that, going from tourist places, parks and such.
It’s something I want to do for sure.
The first step into the darkest chapter of mankind madness... Not a single word of the treat we are facing again right now of a nuclear doomsday
Could Alpha particles be in the dusty soil and breathed into body where it could continue to expose inside of body to radiation?
Well you don't have to worry about alpha particles like that. Alpha emitters are the ones to look out for...isotopes that emit alpha radiation like uranium, thorium, plutonium or radon (there's a lot more). But at this site I haven't run into any large alpha emitting sources. Usually the radiation exposure is in the form of gamma radiation.
Radioacive/legal or not, I would leave what Trinitite I found behind for others to see. I know many areas have been picked clean by people who wanted something to bring home. But that is just my personal take 👍.
As someone fascinated by nuclear history, and who lives far from White Sands, it is a great glimpse into a key moment in our history.