Refreshing the Board Just Got Even Better! - Peglin

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • Peglin Part 21 - this new refresh synergy relic caught my eye, so I thought I'd bring it out in a custom build with the refreshorb. At first, it seems crazy that they nerfed the refreshorb, but now I see why they did it.
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Komentáře • 235

  • @bishuhp
    @bishuhp Před 2 lety +462

    my favorite part was at 38:14 when tyler says, “it’s refreshin’ time.” and then proceeds to refresh

  • @xanderramsdell2919
    @xanderramsdell2919 Před 2 lety +519

    "as the run goes on" he says, 1 fight away from the final boss. Yes, Tyler, because there is so much run to continue to go on. There will be plenty of time for you to see how much that relic helps. *Definitely*.

    • @Nullbound
      @Nullbound Před 2 lety +4

      Bruh 😭😭😭

    • @rupert_1491
      @rupert_1491 Před 2 lety +13

      -sun tzu, the art of war

    • @stickofthetruth9408
      @stickofthetruth9408 Před 2 lety +13

      Said that just incase there was a secret room after the boss

    • @alasdairsinclair916
      @alasdairsinclair916 Před 2 lety +14

      Well, to be fair, the sock puppet does even less on the final boss.

    • @susamogus8331
      @susamogus8331 Před 2 lety +6

      @@alasdairsinclair916 at least it doesn't hinder him

  • @nintendomario007
    @nintendomario007 Před 2 lety +204

    Refresh orb used to start every 8 then got upgraded to 6 IIRC, but now it starts at 6 with a cap of 10 refreshes.
    Edit: The refresh damage boost does apply instantly. 21:01 your stone started gaining damage by 4 instead of 3 after hitting the refresh.

  • @nobutlikeactually
    @nobutlikeactually Před 2 lety +125

    39:20 that item seems like a weird synergy with betsy hedge, it literally just means that every crit on the board gives you +0 +1

    • @10503.
      @10503. Před 2 lety +7

      Tyler should try to start with those two and the relic that gives +2 crits on the board

    • @NoizZy_
      @NoizZy_ Před 2 lety +14

      @@10503. seems like too much as starting, tyler likes to atleast make the starting a bit fair ya know

  • @timbo3286
    @timbo3286 Před 2 lety +25

    19:10 All orbs that have the text "can target any enemy on screen" do half damage to mirrors, with one exception nosforbatu( that one does normal damage), all other orbs do double damage, at least this was the case a couple of updates ago.
    21:00 The buff does apply during a throw, even though the numbers on the side of the screen don't update, as the stone gained 4 damage per peg hit but the numbers stated it should be 3 (same thing happened at 24:55 the orb gained 5 damage per peg hit but, according to the numbers, only shoul'dve gained 2).

  • @Lystr0saur
    @Lystr0saur Před 2 lety +42

    38:13
    When he said "It's refreshin' time!" then refreshed all of the bad pegs, it was truly one of the moments ever.

  • @samuelo5052
    @samuelo5052 Před 2 lety +88

    Well this was a refreshing episode. It’s pretty baller how you have these while you move.

    • @muhammedsamman
      @muhammedsamman Před 2 lety +7

      Some might say it's an orbscellent episode

    • @TlalocTemporal
      @TlalocTemporal Před 2 lety +4

      @@muhammedsamman -- An eggcellent and well rounded episode, all things concentered.

    • @metal3978
      @metal3978 Před 2 lety +1

      This certainly cured my borbom.

  • @tubbzchain2569
    @tubbzchain2569 Před 2 lety +39

    So the reason for the change of refresh orb was because it was probably the most broken orb, if you had the gift that keeps on giving, it had the possibility of causing runs to end because it would just infinitely refresh which is why it was limited to only 10 times now.

    • @brutusthebear9050
      @brutusthebear9050 Před 2 lety +9

      I feel like the last upgrade should make it so the board refreshes after the orb leaves the field, so the next orb has a fresh field every time

  • @BleachWizz
    @BleachWizz Před 2 lety +45

    The stuck thing is really annoying, and I think an "if (velocity = (0,0)) { velocity = (0,-1) }" might solve it. I mean you just force it to hit the bottom peg.
    You can also raycast down and just destroy the block, but stil you need more than 1 direction, at least 3.

    • @kdevelopergw
      @kdevelopergw Před 2 lety +1

      or something like if (velocity = (0,0))
      {
      StartCoroutine(HitboxDisable());
      }
      IEnumerator HitboxDisable(){
      collision.enabled = false;
      yield return new WaitForSeconds(.5f);
      collision.enabled = true;
      }

    • @BleachWizz
      @BleachWizz Před 2 lety +7

      @@kdevelopergw there will be bugs with ball receiving back collision boxes inside the pegs.
      Other than a ball randomly flying off it's fine

    • @bastian_5975
      @bastian_5975 Před 2 lety +3

      @@kdevelopergw I think the simpler solution is better, if anything just get the direction of net force on the ball (usually down, but the gravity wells change that, and any time there are moving pegs, it could end up being forced in a new direction) and remove the pegs making contact in that direction if the ball is stuck.

    • @kobdog2823
      @kobdog2823 Před 2 lety +3

      @@bastian_5975 I think a decent solution would be to make the ball check for connecting pegs and hit them when stationary. Things like refresh and the pumpkin allow the ball to get stuck with no speed so checking when speed is 0 should fix it as long as you check it a few times to account for refreshing before deleting the ball.
      As for granting velocity to the ball you could do it but it’s not unlikely for your ball to be forcefully moved inside a peg. Then depending on the physics it might just blast off screen at light speed. Which while it would look cool could soft lock the game.

    • @tommy3134
      @tommy3134 Před 2 lety +1

      But aren’t there several other situations where the velocity vector could be (0,0) and that additional could mess with things?

  • @godlyvex5543
    @godlyvex5543 Před 2 lety +10

    By the way, the damage upgrades were definitely applying in real time. It doesn't reflect in the stats on the left, but if you pay close attention to the damage numbers, they rise faster after they get the damage bonus from refreshing.

  • @kiranaun9593
    @kiranaun9593 Před 2 lety +18

    That one poltorbgeist shot against the wall was amazing

  • @haabyalexis1157
    @haabyalexis1157 Před 2 lety +5

    "I'm taking a break "
    What do you mean you're uploading bangers everytime while in a break? No, seriously, I never been that satisfied by your uploads. Hope you're actually resting enough, keep up the great work man.

  • @thecomentguy6557
    @thecomentguy6557 Před 2 lety +14

    Tip: this strat is godly with critiball, refresher course, electropegnet, and the shaft potion that makes crits also refresh. (Also tgtkog if you can get it)

  • @lily_littleangel
    @lily_littleangel Před 2 lety +3

    20:55 it actually did apply, it just doesn't show on the left, but the damage counter does increase by 4 every time.

  • @doomse150
    @doomse150 Před 2 lety +11

    I think you severly underestimate the value of refreshing on the first orb hit. Especially when the board gets more empty, having that initial refresh can be a lifesaver by kickstarting the refresh streak

  • @weird_th
    @weird_th Před 2 lety +7

    refresher course buffs do apply right away (the side doesn't update, so you have to look at the numbers on the board)

  • @jucom756
    @jucom756 Před 2 lety +3

    The thing about betsy's hedge is getting a crit does exactly the same with or without it, but getting a 2,4 critted vs getting an 8,4 critted hits different.

  • @noahvanhinsbergh7021
    @noahvanhinsbergh7021 Před 2 lety +41

    I softlocked with a critiball with heavy-shaft potion and gift that keeps on giving that is why refreshorb has a limit to how long it can refresh

    • @sunbleachedangel
      @sunbleachedangel Před 2 lety +13

      Just give us the "stop* button after like 3 or 4 minutes instead of putting stupid fun limiters

    • @slice6298
      @slice6298 Před 2 lety +4

      @@sunbleachedangel 3 or 4 minutes sounds like a lot
      Maybe instantly, there could be some cool intercations with destroying the orb mid flight

    • @new0news
      @new0news Před 2 lety +3

      @@slice6298 click the orb to blow it up lol

    • @slice6298
      @slice6298 Před 2 lety +1

      @@new0news borbm

    • @new0news
      @new0news Před 2 lety +1

      @@slice6298 clorbck theorb orb torb ballow orbt uporb

  • @crimsondragon2677
    @crimsondragon2677 Před 2 lety +10

    “You can always afford to lose a few pounds”
    I wish!
    - a chronically underweight dragon

  • @casualviewer9804
    @casualviewer9804 Před 2 lety +63

    As if refreshorb wasn't good enough

  • @lily_littleangel
    @lily_littleangel Před 2 lety +2

    I'm pretty sure mirror logic is that it deals double damage when hitting from Peglin's side and half when hitting from above (orbelisk and lightning both hit from above for example). Not sure about ones that hit directly (jack orb, concentration).

    • @jdr293
      @jdr293 Před 2 lety

      Given that logic I would expect normal damage from direct hits but idk

  • @wypmangames
    @wypmangames Před 2 lety +1

    instead of waiting the update, maybe you could do a chaos run:
    you start off with all relics, and one of each orb type, you are NOT allowed to take any new orbs, outside from dublication mirrors (dublicate all) and the remove mirror just pick a random one to remove, and then see the chaos of synergies and brokenness regardless of what orb you get
    just a fun bonus video/challenge idea of course :)

  • @sunbleachedangel
    @sunbleachedangel Před 2 lety +1

    35:00 Tyler completely missing the gap at the bottom lol

  • @soundboomer
    @soundboomer Před 2 lety +8

    I may be late, but congratulations for reaching 500k subs!!

    • @lukeguo3966
      @lukeguo3966 Před 2 lety +3

      he’s celebrating at the start of september, don’t worry ur not late

    • @fastertthanyou8805
      @fastertthanyou8805 Před 2 lety +4

      I am real hyped for whatever he has planed when he gets back from his break

  • @garlic_bread_toast4403
    @garlic_bread_toast4403 Před 2 lety +1

    “That was a little disappointing”
    “That was disgusting”
    -Tyler 2022
    -also my dad when I was born

  • @Juniper_Rose
    @Juniper_Rose Před rokem

    Tyler, faced with a long line of enemies and a big board of pegs: I don't want Poltorbgeist here.

  • @desktoplasma1070
    @desktoplasma1070 Před 2 lety

    The orbs that do double damage to the mirror or things like that are the ones that attack from the side. Because they are hitting the glass.

  • @lunchtime_mmmmmmm
    @lunchtime_mmmmmmm Před 2 lety +2

    It's good to come back to the Tyler that knows how to play, episodes from 3 months ago hurt to watch

  • @fastertthanyou8805
    @fastertthanyou8805 Před 2 lety +6

    Sweet refresh build

  • @davidpotts7116
    @davidpotts7116 Před 2 lety +1

    An easy way to fix the issue of pegs getting stuck - if a peg’s momentum reaches 0 for 3 seconds, set its downward momentum to a low amount. Getting pegs stuck because of refreshes is so annoying, and it happens constantly with refreshorb.

  • @PPedroFernandes
    @PPedroFernandes Před 2 lety +1

    So now I'm wondering, if you gave the refresh orb matriorbska, would each orb have its own 10 refreshes and trigger the relic twice?

  • @timvankoert7702
    @timvankoert7702 Před 2 lety

    In case you don't know, the mirrors and weather vanes take halve damage from orbs that can target any enemy (or colunm), and all other orbs deal double damage (and get reflected, in case of the mirror)

  • @bengoodwin2141
    @bengoodwin2141 Před 2 lety +12

    Peglin is cool but I'm really looking forward to potion craft

    • @CowKirbo
      @CowKirbo Před 2 lety +3

      I'm a bit the opposite. I love this game and don't really have much interest in potion craft.

    • @cannedbeans29
      @cannedbeans29 Před 2 lety

      im still waiting for tyler playing another BTD6

  • @therabbithole5686
    @therabbithole5686 Před 2 lety +3

    Time to fuck my sleep up again

  • @oygemprime3864
    @oygemprime3864 Před 2 lety

    The mirrors' damage modifiers are pretty simple. Targeted orbs deal half damage, while fired orbs can be reflected and deal double damage.

  • @sammy-the-haze
    @sammy-the-haze Před 11 měsíci

    I know this is an old video now but tyler stays sleeping on the poltorbgeist and I’m so glad he saw how good it was in the very last fight

  • @wingedfish1175
    @wingedfish1175 Před 2 lety +2

    I feel like a cool relic could be +1/+1 for every elite killed this run

  • @maverick4437
    @maverick4437 Před 2 lety

    Jack-orb-Lantern used to have stat buffs on each level, started as a 1/2, then when leveled up it became a 2/4 the went to the top of the board twice, and at level 3 a 3/6 that traveled back up the pegboard three times.

  • @thomtom3070
    @thomtom3070 Před 2 lety +1

    You should always or at least regularly start with the eye of the turtle relic. I think it’d just make everything more interesting overall since you’d have more options.

  • @Shade00a00
    @Shade00a00 Před 2 lety

    very nice run. Loving your content these past couple weeks with the potioncraft beta and this coming back, made me reinstall it :)

  • @CadAvarice
    @CadAvarice Před 2 lety

    “Refreshin’ time” -Refreshorbius

  • @Starwort
    @Starwort Před 2 lety

    2:38 it was actually to prevent a softlock with gift that keeps on giving, on the board that's essentially just a moving wall

    • @darkithnamgedrf9495
      @darkithnamgedrf9495 Před 2 lety

      That is definitely not the reason, considering it still gets stuck and also if it wasnt there that relic would be way to op, so using some critical thinking we can assume they changed it for the relic

    • @Starwort
      @Starwort Před 2 lety +2

      @@darkithnamgedrf9495 it's literally stated in the patch notes, plus IIRC the refreshorb change happened before refresher course was added

  • @Bush_Scout
    @Bush_Scout Před rokem

    38:14 HE SAID IT HE SAID THE THING

  • @greenbirdgaming8691
    @greenbirdgaming8691 Před rokem

    Quick note: From what I can gleam from watching this, the mirror is weak to any orb that doesn't alow you to pick your target, but if you hit it with any of said orbs and it survives, you will take damage. Any other orb does half damage.

    • @greenbirdgaming8691
      @greenbirdgaming8691 Před rokem

      Acualy the weather vane works in a similar vane to the mirror, minus the bounce back. (Pun intended)

  • @wisppandemonium8106
    @wisppandemonium8106 Před 2 lety

    fun fact about mirrors: anything you throw from the left does the good damage, but anything that doesn't do the good damage also doesn't trigger the mirror to damage you.

  • @dejikimoritzgztyuixc7227

    This was a really cool video, loved watching the absurd 12k damage at the end, absolutely mental that a bollock can do that much.

  • @22TwentyTwo
    @22TwentyTwo Před 2 lety

    24:25 supporting tyler is everything i need

  • @Seldaphar
    @Seldaphar Před 2 lety

    More Peglin content is always refreshing

  • @colserra3063
    @colserra3063 Před 2 lety

    Yay! More peglin!

  • @mav0709
    @mav0709 Před 2 lety

    @22:35 Incase you didn't know you can just click which enemy you want to target and the targeted orb will hit that

  • @maximelenfer6280
    @maximelenfer6280 Před 2 lety

    I haven't watch a pegglin video since at least 3months i think and omg it change so much

  • @SheWhoExists
    @SheWhoExists Před 2 lety +1

    Praise be peglin!

  • @Idontnowut2do
    @Idontnowut2do Před 2 lety +1

    This was definitely enjoyable

  • @DavidLIVE_
    @DavidLIVE_ Před 2 lety

    Love to see another peglin upload.

  • @sarad2487
    @sarad2487 Před rokem

    Rewatching when there was no shop yet, ah the good old days

  • @raf42
    @raf42 Před 2 lety

    I believe everything here is pre-recorded, but FYI in the latest patch they removed the x0 slot from the weighted chip relic. So it might be worth revisiting in the future.
    Hope you're having a fantastic break, looking forward to the ongoing content you were kind enough to leave us during this time.

  • @cheesiestmaster879
    @cheesiestmaster879 Před 2 lety

    Orb idea: The Alphorb
    3/4
    Innate: This orb will be your first orb every reload
    Echo Boost: This orbs damage is multiplied by X for the purpose of calculating Echo effects

  • @ipkandskill
    @ipkandskill Před 2 lety

    Backpack hero is officially out if you wanna check it out.

  • @jeffgoldblunt
    @jeffgoldblunt Před 2 lety +15

    My favorite part of the video is when Tyler said it's refreshing time and then refreshed all over that guy

  • @liamorsborn2711
    @liamorsborn2711 Před 2 lety +1

    How does the jack-o-lantern work with the chip?

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 Před 2 lety

    as strange as it was when you started doing it, i can say it was a great choice for editing style to accelerate the video but not the audio

  • @jackmartini2718
    @jackmartini2718 Před 2 lety

    yoo loving the midnight uploads

  • @yozarahirvi4750
    @yozarahirvi4750 Před 2 lety +1

    here's a little info on why matriochka shell wasn't a bad pick : each orbs have their own counter of 10 refresh => with matriochka shell a single refreshorb could refresh 20 times
    edit : gift that keeps on giving isn't a bad pick, but matrioshka shell was better because the -2/-2 doesn't matter much when you get +5 worth of stats on every refreshorb you throw

  • @cheesiestmaster879
    @cheesiestmaster879 Před 2 lety

    If you have both Betsy's Hedge and Short Stack, Betsy negates the negative of Short Stack

  • @Dravenick
    @Dravenick Před 2 lety

    if the pegs that fade in and out can spare orbs from bugging out, then what if when the game detects the orb bugging out, instead of the orb disappearing, the nearby pegs fade out and in... Or that could be a new relic that does that.

  • @kirbomatic1573
    @kirbomatic1573 Před 2 lety

    I think that it would be cool if stuck orbs got a burst of speed in a random direction. that would help when you have the gift that keeps on giving

  • @etourdie
    @etourdie Před 2 lety +1

    Mirrors/lightning rods take .5x damage from things that don't hit from the side

  • @AVoiceForRadio
    @AVoiceForRadio Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like Jack-Orb-Lantern would be insane with the Chip relic

    • @huang111
      @huang111 Před 2 lety +1

      Kinda? Not really insane though, you still have the same chances of making it in or out the hole

  • @Raylative
    @Raylative Před rokem

    3:25 I went completely pog

  • @evenaxin3628
    @evenaxin3628 Před 2 lety

    This tempted me into starting with matriobrska shell, 4 stones, and jack orb lantern. it's very hard to get to work, but very strong once it does.

  • @CaTastrophy427
    @CaTastrophy427 Před 2 lety

    There ought to be a ? event that only shows up if you skip the boss relic (and not always, just sometimes), which gives a special relic, or maybe just gives you the option to pick any relic you want.

  • @alliebonesVODs
    @alliebonesVODs Před 2 lety

    I think a good buff for the Refreshorb upgrades would be for the max refreshes to go from 5 to 10 to 15.

  • @necroprogaming6851
    @necroprogaming6851 Před 2 lety +1

    Challenge: Finish peg Lin, but every time you are offered one or more orbs, you have to take one. No skipping.

  • @hannahlistento100EAT
    @hannahlistento100EAT Před 2 lety +1

    games be looking sick right now

  • @ashtonh991
    @ashtonh991 Před 2 lety +1

    Very fun build

  • @destroidhak2556
    @destroidhak2556 Před 2 lety

    That's a fresh idea

  • @totally_not_a_possumlmao254

    Fun fact, mirrors health are 1331 because it is the same “mirrored”

  • @youssefmehana1249
    @youssefmehana1249 Před 2 lety

    I have an idea for the game:an orb merger where you can combine two level 3 of the same orb and it becomes a level 4 which has a special effect on the pegs like maybe the jack-orb-lantern when it hits the pegs they fall down and come from the top again falling into place...hope anyone sees this idea

  • @glitchxero4687
    @glitchxero4687 Před 2 lety

    Nobody seems to be able to say musircle, but it's "musical", but circular. Because orb pun.

  • @coltonknight1073
    @coltonknight1073 Před 2 lety

    You need the relic that makes crits into refreshes and then use Critaball for infinite scaling

  • @drawnfromflames7007
    @drawnfromflames7007 Před 2 lety

    hope one day an echo build can be done, would like to see its full potential

  • @etourdie
    @etourdie Před 2 lety

    They made the refreshorb only work 10 times because with terrible luck on some moving peg maps you could either softlock or build up wayyyy too much damage. I believe they added that the patch before this one

  • @Dracophile7
    @Dracophile7 Před 2 lety

    Challenge ideas
    Complete a run with only critiballs, refreshorbs, and bomborbs.
    Or
    Complete a run with only weapon orbs.

  • @michasokoowski6651
    @michasokoowski6651 Před 2 lety

    What a REFRESHing build

  • @christophermoore6110
    @christophermoore6110 Před 2 lety

    Why skip the boss relic? So what if the kinetic meteorite gets cancelled out by the refresh orb?

  • @Valreg
    @Valreg Před 2 lety

    They need to give a relic that grants a bonus for “skipping stones”

  • @euva8904
    @euva8904 Před 2 lety

    Where are our rule 34 artists with refresh orb yelling "stepbrother I'm stuck!" ?

  • @jansyrovatka4090
    @jansyrovatka4090 Před 2 lety

    In my opinion, better orb for refreshing is crittibal with heavy? shaftpotion.

  • @kritzmaker
    @kritzmaker Před 2 lety

    now i suddenly want to see piercing attacks do 2x damage to the wall
    cause yknow
    you are breaking through the wall

  • @XNAROTO
    @XNAROTO Před 2 lety

    tyler. when you get a chance i would LOVE to see you play cult of the lamb. it just came out and its really great

  • @Alayric
    @Alayric Před 2 lety +2

    Step refresh orb keeps getting stuck 😤

  • @Jack_Wolfe
    @Jack_Wolfe Před 2 lety

    I wanna see how many of those chest bombs you can detonate in one run.

  • @semajniomet981
    @semajniomet981 Před 2 lety

    When do you plan on doing the Sphear-only run? It'd be fun to watch you solo run an orb that you've never used (at least, not that I've seen) before.

    • @huang111
      @huang111 Před 2 lety +1

      That’d be boring both due to the fact that it’s a pretty boring orbs and a solo run of it would just make it more boring

  • @purplestar322
    @purplestar322 Před 2 lety

    35:37 should of gone for the all dupes since you would get a total of 6 refreshorbs

  • @tragictoast3197
    @tragictoast3197 Před 2 lety

    Good 44:33, love to see it (;

  • @erinlieb4535
    @erinlieb4535 Před 2 lety

    MUSCIRCLE asfsadfsaf
    Chad Alienstock says (musk circle)
    Virgin cunning lunguist says (mew-circle (portmanteau of Music and circle))
    lmao nice vid

    • @MyzticF
      @MyzticF Před 2 lety +2

      His way is probably correct, pretty sure it's muscle + circle

    • @erinlieb4535
      @erinlieb4535 Před 2 lety

      @@MyzticF Okay, That works.
      Why would a *bell* and a *book* give you *muscle* tho

  • @trinity5893
    @trinity5893 Před 2 lety

    how to contradict yourself: 13:45 -1 orb is bad. Earlier:-1 orb is good

  • @briansun9261
    @briansun9261 Před 2 lety +1

    cool

  • @CaTastrophy427
    @CaTastrophy427 Před 2 lety

    Tyler, take the Chip again, it has been buffed a lot, it's actually good now, no 0x slots and two 2x slots

  • @therecusant2355
    @therecusant2355 Před 2 lety +1

    “Can target any enemy” and proceeds to discard the jack-orb instead of left-clicking the enemy he wants to hit