How you should NOT forget your teammates | CANADIAN ARMED FORCES BASIC TRAINING
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- I recently watched the TV series 'Basic Up' which was a older TV show made that followed the Canadian Armed Forces Basic Training School.
The show has some really good points and information that you can use if you are going into the Canadian military and although a little dated it is very useful.
In this video we discuss how NOT to forget sentries when your going through army training. Here are the Basic Up episodes if you want to watch them:
Basic Up Episode 1 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
Basic Up Episode 2 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
Basic Up Episode 3 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
Basic Up Episode 4 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
Basic Up Episode 5 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
Basic Up Episode 6 - • Basic Up (Season 1) - ...
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Basic up, most people thought it was a serious documentary into the real lives of recruits, but we as NCOs knew that it was a comedy show.
Brought it up to my NCOs in training and they had very colourful things to say about it.
I'd love for a quick explanation to what you NCOs saw as comedy. Is the depiction really soft in comparison? Are the instructors putting on a show? I'm genuinely curious as someone who intends to enlist.
@@vashxux It's hard to say. If you have to explain a joke in detail it stops being a joke. Either you get it or you don't.
It's propaganda and a recruitment video to trick the average person to think it's not that bad. hook line n sinker
@@jeroylenkins1745 we know its not 100% accurate.. atleast i hope most people do..... they dont want to scare most of the recruiting pool away lol.
I know it's way off topic, but I never cease to be amazed by how good Cadpat is in a Canadian environment. It truly is superior to so many other camo patterns.
Sadly they are getting rid of it right now too
@@chaz2020 They aren't really getting rid of it just, "updating" it.
@@hockeyrulz100 same thing
Remember what happened with the American UCP’s?
@@chaz2020 theyre adding some brown colouring to it, which is good. forests and grasslands have a lot of dead material
Speaking as a BMQ course officer (several courses under my belt) here are my observations:
- Course senior failure to ensure the sentries have been relieved;
- Why aren't staff serving the meal? I, alongside my staff, would serve the meals - also gave us an opportunity to observe the recruit's interaction;
- Staff always eats after candidates have been served. Officer eats LAST;
- Why didn't the officer (or 2IC) notice this failure before it got to this point?
Enough blame to share here.
because basic up was 99% staged which is why everyone thinks its a joke
When that camera stops rolling, you know they’re getting smoked. Like the producer probably said “Just be nice while we’re filming, we don’t want any bad ratings for any curses or excessive yelling”
We had a great first sgt in Desert Storm. He always made sure even the most remote soldier got fed. He was supposed to retire but they extended him because of the war.
I'm going in to basic in the next month or so, I cant wait 😊 Eo glad I quit smoking 3 years ago it'll make it a lot easier
Similar situation came up in my platoon. I caught on to it and the senior at the time said something I will never forget "Why the fuck should I care." when I asked if there were sentries to relieve the first sentries. I grabbed my buddy, 17 minutes into the 30 minutes meal and we ran outside, having barely eaten anything, because we had been at the tail end of the chow line, and relieved the sentries. Still, they went to the SGT and told him they had been forgotten and needed more time to eat, so my buddy and I, along with the entier section, were made to do these slow ass hanging pushups because the senior did not give a fuck and the sentries couldn't shut the fuck up.
I ate nothing that evening, got extra PT, but learned that the next time someone asks me, "why should I care?" the answer is "Because I will hurt you if you don't figure it the fuck out."
Soviet army: Wait your getting lunch?
When I was in basic I was called in by the DI to hide in a very specific spot so that the fire watch person who would soon have to conduct an evacuation of the building would miss me. I was mortified hearing him getting drilled it stuck with me throughout all of my time in the military and I was just the role actor he chose. I was a prior fire watch when we had a drill and I managed to find the hidden person thankfully.
This is why you get head counts after ever evolution.
Also Late Chow Post Earl Chow Fly, or at the very least first 2 done get the last 2.
I have seen this show many times before and I still enjoy watching it today.
lol, I did BMQ in early 2020 and graduated right before the pandemic. Our punishments were more brutal than that in the video. So really depends on your instructors. 2 of my instructors were RCR & combat vets; a WO (2IC) & a Sgt. Then my other Sgt was a firefighter. Just with those 3, if you fucked up, you're gonna pay dearly. We also had a MS that was pretty fit as well & his corrective measurements weren't a joke either.
Then during my SQ or BMQ-L, with all combat instructors, we paid even more.
General rule of thumb, it doesn't matter what happens, you're gonna end up paying eventually. Sometimes dearly. Thankfully, with my two courses, we all took the punishments and never blamed one another. No in-fighting whatsoever.
Good times haha
My basic in 2006 was also a full combat platoon, all hard asses, 55 Infantry recruits so we had a lot of bozos lol, we destroyed St. Jean on the weekends back in the day, I bet it still get's rocked hard eh!!! I member getting the police called on us because we were having a lot party at the mall.
As someone who got missed with getting food as a sentry or simmilar post a couple of times i appreciate it.
Once i didn`t even eat anything for two days because of shi..y planning.
Tipp: Bring your own food for 3 days as well as extra water and rehydration powder.
That's a big ole' oof on the part of the designated squad leaders. Oh well, lesson learned.
Hello Matsimus! I absolutely love your unbias reviews(except for Challenger II reviews hehe). Can you do a review on Sabrah Light tank? The one with 105mm gun turret.
After watching the corrective measures the platoon underwent, I don't understand what matsimus was talking about the measures being changed and this being an old video and things being different now. I mena there was nothing wrong with these corrective measures.
New times. In my BMQ our course WO got introuble for doing the something to us for only 10 minutes. Somebody complained and all of a sudden we had a new course WO the following weekend.
@@Vand0280 what a shitpump. Imagine joining the military and thinking it should be a walk in the park... What kind of CM was it that they had to complain? We had worse (than in the video) and none of us complained about CM.
@@XDlosDominicans It was not that bad at all. This particular shitpump felt that 'punishing us was not an effective teaching method and that we don't learn anything from punishment'. Yep. I hated him with a passion.
It's a whole different breed of whatever. Soft and squishy. One hand still dangling off their mama's purse. Told every day everyone gets a gold star no matter what. Then they wonder why they can't keep the girlfriend. Women don't want to be a parent to grown man their having sex with. Stomping their feet and falling on their backs in passive defiance with snot oozing out of their noses because their instructor wouldn't make them a bottle before beddy bye time.
Thank you matsimus!!
If you keep getting the same results.
It's not the trainees it's the training.
Any thoughts on the CAF replacing the old C7 assault rifle for a newer model. There are so many upgrades our armed forces need but with the USA upgrading their Battle rifle it's time we did too.
Ahh yes discipline. My stuff up cost me 3 nights of cleaning steps with tooth brush plus no weekends for two weeks. So learn from this if you drop your SLR in a creek and don't clean it properly when you hand back and say but, but, well they're gonna know. Lesson learnt.
that food looks awesome, better than my own at home.
I thank everyone on this post, for their service.
This Sgt seems nice. Probably because of being on film. This Sgt's reaction to infractions is nothing, the reality of a fulltime BMQ course, and punishments for failures are much harsher when the world isnt watching.
You sound like one of those people that are like “army got soft after I got out”
@@CDNSPR People actually think this is the pinnacle of our training here in Canada because of these videos.
@@michaelvasconcelos1788 ok and? That literally goes for every single military-follow along documentary, of course they’re gonna act different on camera.
@@CDNSPR And yes, the army did get soft, in my opinion. I feared it would one day conform to societies norms and "values". You dont need to believe me, but ive seen it first hand.
@@michaelvasconcelos1788 that’s your opinion
When I went through Basic in the US Army we had one Drill Sergeant who gave us this kind of "corrective training" with increasing frequency over laughably minor infractions as we got towards the end. We didn't complain much though because it became very apparent that his goal was to get us ready to pass our PT test, and he just thought it was funny to pretend it was punishment.
goog memory, the tallest instructor have an imrpessive tone of voice, i like it, lol, the reccrut will remember it
Day 3 of asking Matsimus to do a rewiev on the newest Serbian Tank, the M-84AS2
Matsimus, I want to let you know that you are one of many people who have inspired me to one day join the Canadian armed forces, and protect the freedoms of our country that many people hold dear. My Dads side of the family has taken arms against tyranny since ww2, and likely before. I plan to join the navy as a marine technician. I will ensure my grades are high, especially math, and physics. I hope to travel the world, and have a fantastic time serving in the Canadian navy.
UPDATE: I’ve decided to change my desired trade to construction technician. I feel it would better help Canada as a whole since I’m assuming they’re the ones building fences to prevent the flooding in BC. I also recently realized that I get seasick easily.
@@chillsn That domestic operation will likely be over by the time you've been recruited, trained, posted to a unit and "actually employable". Expect to wait 6 - 12 months for recruitment and another 12 - 24 months to finish BMQ, PAT Platoon and DP1.
When will you make a video about Romanias military?
There is one thing NCO's and other personel in the Canadian Armed Forces should consider:
I can plenty imagine you being send on exercises to f.i. Iceland. Now to defend Iceland against an invasion does not take much. The terrain is terrible (vulcanoes in inconvienient places - and such) AND you have to brave the North Atlantic, so any complication will make enemy planners wince at the idea of attempting an invasion.
But given that example: As a soldier in an allied country, you have the responsability of being on your best behavior.
The Troops eat before the Brass.. honestly can't complain about my old chain of Command with the 506th..
It's pretty alarming because those are C7A2s. So it was at least 2011. You know that PO should have also had a rifle in his hand for the stress positions. Great video though Matt. Thoughtful insight as always.
basic up was filmed sometime in 2005-2006
The po references a c1 for those who don't know its a slightly modified fn fal
Hey...what can anyone say? Lesson learned their lesson. I've been hammered like this too and we learned by god. They won't be leaving team mates to rot lying to the PO about again.
Integrity honesty victory.
I really need to stop reading the comments on Military related videos. They're always filled with nonsensical comments about 1 of 3 things; The Good 'Ol Days where everything was tougher and other wives' tales about weak new troops, Blatantly wrong information regarding equipment and standards, and inane opinions about how things should be done.
The "Cursing" is funny af
Haahah Petty Officer Robinson yelling 😂
Accountability. I've seen examples good and bad in the 25 years I was in. I fell on my sword more than once, and was better for it. However, I had one day... I loaded sonobouys in the belly of a CP-140, while I was signing for it the aircrew came down and started pulling out and reinstalling a few. I reported it to my Sgt, and shortly after takeoff they lost a sono on the runway. The aircrew tried to blame me, until crusty Sgt called them out on it. Yeah.
pretty basic mistake, that's why there will be the existing of ncos, they nanny the kids for all the day to day job. duty roaster, rotation, supplies, logistic, skills teaching, where is the nco in this unit? and where is the habit of existing on going tradition?
That food looks bussin
Breakfast and supper was the best. I never really liked box lunches.
If anyone wants to join the Canadian armed forces, they are good people they will take care of you. If you don’t fuck up and break rules you will be okay. My cousin showed me how the military works. Somethings you see in movies is actually illegal
LOL LOL so much easier now a days LOL I went through in the 90s before all the PC crap and such Believe me got ripped a new a hole back then, then In 200o went to ATR lichfield for Baby Para basic, God damn that was something else. Beasting room !, Imoving back home to Canada and rejoining the army at 40 something.
Hi, i really want a oportunity to serve in the canadian army force, i'm from Peru.
Do They accept Latin people ?
this is classic
Me and battle playing ANA at Polk JOTC: "Man, we've been here for 14 hours in the rain, when we going to get relieved?"
Battle buddy who's done this before and has been trying to sleep laying up against a tree for 6 hours: "Relief? Just try to relax man, the Afghanis are going to wake up in a hour and give us some good food, what are you even watching, we're ANA we don't do shit anyway"
Me: DURKA DURKA!
But are they field sanitation certified? Can't have them serving the food otherwise >_>
I got left on top of a hill in multiple stx lanes lol. Walked back into an AAR on accountability for someone else they lost.
Where do i sign up i'm joining for the food. 😸
My father was in the SADF I'm in the Israeli military so also very different disciplinary actions and training techniques but they like beating us up with pt if we do stuff like this. While those guys get to sit and watch. One thing is sure these guys were real nice to those troops compared to here in the IDF when they get kind you know something's about to happen.
Yup like they abandoned Gurkhas who guarded their embassy in Kabul? Third parties had to evacuate them.
That's the government's fault . Not soldiers on the ground ,
Ya man When I saw they did that I was pissed. Couldn't believe it
Those were Private Security contractors, they weren't included in the evacuation plans because they were contractors who were evacuated by their company brining them back to Nepal.
What About the Canadian air force? I want to join that
All of the Canadian Armed Forces do the same shared Basic
Just curious about something. After the debacle in Afghanistan how much Canadian millitary equipment was lost? Are the Taliban going to be driving around in Lepord 2 tanks, and flying Sea King helicopters?
Canada got out in 2014, when it comes to military equipment we barely had anything there at this point.
they can keep the Sea Kings
Our combat mission ended in 2011, in which all combat equipment was packed up and shipped back to Canada. We then had a training mission which lasted until 2014.
Canada did not donate any equipment to ANSF, as there was no need at the time. Canada did not leave any equipment behind.
The Taliban may have access to US supplied weapons meant for the ANA, and some helpful kit such as plate carriers, NVGs, some Humvee’s (they aren’t that great, hence why they are left behind in Iraq and Afgh. for use by local forces.). That’s about it. Nothing game changing.
Heavier armoured vehicles need fuel, and specific maintenance. Taliban won’t be flying helicopters anytime soon, or for long… very critical, specific maintenance & structural testing is required, and very unique spare parts. Plus some training on how to fly a helicopter - one mistake early on, helo and “self appointed pilot in training” are done for.
@@chrisburke624 Thanks for your detailed answer, and thanks for your service.
" frigging "?....oh that's right. Canadians don't swear. I give basic swearing instruction at local community colleges. I have no problem subcontracting out to the Canadian Army.
TV cameras, thats why
This is relatively tame compared to when I went through my initial training back in the dark ages.
Classic the sentries were forgot about lol
Whether the recruits are lying or just failed in getting the sentries swapped out, either way the instructors should not have assumed the recruits were right, they should have stepped in & made sure it happened!!!
I missed the diversity in this. I also liked the way they all sat facing in the same direction like on the target range. I hope they were not in the infantry.
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He talks like a fit Randy.
No way , look at all that chow !
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Take more care of your brother than you take care of yourself and they will do the same for you.
🇨🇦God Bless our northern cousins.
Yeah no, they treat there people like slaves. They are “free”.. Canadian government is a fucking joke
👍😎🍺🍩
The problem is really that the NCO hasn't kept an eye on things. I can only speak from experience in Danish Air Force, but the conscript NCO's are simply so incompetent. That on the range they just stand there looking stupid.
That was the problem I had as a "shop-steward" elected by the conscripts. In effect I had to do the NCO's job for them.
The problem was that I as a master sergeant of the home guard had SOME notion of a sergeants job - basically I trained sergeants on occations.
The conscripted sergeants of RDaAF were worse than anything I had seen in the Home Guard - not that the Home Guard (by any streach of the imagination) could be called elite; but when an NCO approached that idiots level - they were entrusted making coffee - we got used to apalling coffee.
What I did was: I looked calmly at the idiot and asked if he insisted on the given order - and asked for a witness.They learned to fear my calm, deadpan stare. AND my aunt (which I did not inform them) was a devastating trial lawyer.
Later in life: When I had a say in hiring staff - and the CV contained information, that they had been conscripted sergeants - well thank You, but no thanks. Which was the standard procedure in most companies (I later found out).
This is Basic training, not a military exercise, they intentionally set you up to fuck up so they can punish you so you start paying attention.
No disrespect to Canadian Force. IMHO with the low funding that Ottawa gives it appears to all Canada can have is a Coast Guard, a small professional army, and a well equipped RCAF. Just my opinion…
I would not make any bones about it later.
I ,would, take my sweet time eating my lunch.
Man, those drills were mellow compared my Army DI's...
@@johngallagher3732 are you kidding me? We would of got jacked up and smoked for hours with a possible surprise 3am p.t. session.
Look the Canadian army has a higher standard but the US training style (at the time) was all about putting soldiers through the dumbest, chaotic shite possible. I personally think that people liked full metal jacket so much that somewhere along the line they re-adopted that training mentality because that's what it was. Things aren't as far fetched as you would think when you're getting trained to go to war, things get pretty dumb.
You mean Marine DI?
@@johngallagher3732 Yup.
Oh Farnham lmao
How do Afghans feel right now after being left behind, I wonder...
Not being sarcastic here, but…. Afghans being left behind, in Afghanistan??
Unless embassy staff or contracted support, citizens working for NGO’s, dual citizens, or vulnerable people - how many do we evacuate? The entire country?
Not trying to sound cold at all. But as much as it sucks, Afghans will be left behind in their own country.
Our interpreters on the other hand? Left behind 10yrs ago. Pathetic on the part of the west 😔🤦🏼♂️
@@chrisburke624 Right! How are you "left behind" in your own Nation!?
That's a literal contradiction. Lol
Yeah, No! This is an epic fail on the part of the staff.
"I asked and someone said they were relieved." What the **** is that? If someone lied to you then you punish that person. If there is a squad leader / platoon leader who didn't make sure that the entire platoon got fed then you punish that person. If there isn't a squad/platoon leaders then what the **** kind of course are you running? Why did staff let this problem go on for the entire meal? It is their job to spot this sort of mistake and correct it.
As for punishing the whole platoon except for the sentries... Good job, you've established who the platoon goats are. From here on in those two will be hated. They did nothing wrong, but you've set them up to fail.
What are you trying to teach here? That everyone is the leader and needs to second guess the decisions of their squad leaders and platoon leaders? Because that's the lesson these guys are learning.
Finally, that sgt needs to skip a few meals himself. Not exactly setting a good example there is he?
O who cares. I didn’t eat for 2 days While I was deployed to Iraq. Give them some MREs and move on
Bruh go to mia khalifa twerking posted by MOS tiktok lmao look at the comments u can see him no cap
Don't BIDEN your people !
I see what you did there🌚
Haha oooffff, he’s become his own meme and verb 😅😈👍🏻
Canada? Must be the new country in the middle east.
Jokes
What???
This is a failure of leadership, not a failure of the platoon.
The platoon should not be held responsible for the failure of the NCO's.
This issue demonstrates that the problem started right at the top with the guy abusing the platoon.
Had he trained his NCO's correctly, this issue would not have arisen.
Inclined to agree. However, part of that depends on what kind of course this is?
Is this a BMQ(L)? PLQ?
If it is a PLQ, maybe the onus was put on course senior to ensure everybody in the platoon was taken care of?
Anything less than that, I agree - course NCO should be taken aside and asked WTF….
What are you talking about NCOs? None of the candidates there even have a hook, the only people with ranks are the staff. Its a BMQ course and the candidates and especially the course senior are the ones responsible with swapping out sentries. If this was outside of BMQ, then yes, it would be the NCOs responsibility to make sure everyone is eating.
@@MRrealmadridRaul So without NCO's or their equivalent, how is anything organised? How is military knowledge imparted onto the candidates? How were the candidates supposed to know that sentry posting was their responsibility? Who of the candidates was supposed to roster pickets? Were they told this?
The whole point of the BMQ course is to teach the candidates the fundamentals, what they are responsible for, and what they are not. But if nobody told them, how are they supposed to know? Mind reading is not very common in humans.
I repeat my original point: this is a fiasco that goes right to the CO who abused the candidates with wholly unjustified collective punishment in order to cover up his own failings.
On the face of it, this course was a clear demonstration of lack of planning, organisation and leadership.
The CO and his subordinates should be busted and sent back to basic. The BMQ candidates were unjustly and inappropriately blamed for the incompetence of the leadership.
@@MelbaOzzie That was not the CO that was punishing them. It was an NCM. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt this was their first time they were required to do sentry. They were on the range and needed to sentry ammo so I am almost positive that they have had to sentry their rifles before. I am sure that the staff could have done better at teaching the candidates. There is always room for instructors to improve just like there will always be room for the candidates to improve. Like Matismus said in the video, everyone fucks up, and its usually not personal when they punish you for fucking up. You just gotta own it and move on. 100% the course senior fucked up and maybe the section seniors for making sure their fireteam isn't getting fucked by course senior. It does kinda suck for the other people being punished but there's a lot of people that become complacent and lose all initiative to make sure buddy isn't getting fucked. I'm sure after that incident they wont be trying to be lazy and let someone do all the sentry.
@@MRrealmadridRaul It seemed like it was either BMQ or BMQ(L) - I wasn't sure though.
I was more jaw-dropped that they were getting jacked up by the same guy who I'm pretty sure was in Truth Duty Valour?
Why join the army? Y:-/