Tasmanian Serpentine Botany Dungeon & Huon Pine Shorts

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Ultramafic Soils - aka Serpentine Soils - are soils created from the weathering of ultramafic rocks that are high in iron & magnesium and low in essential plant nutrients like nitrogen & calcium.
    Longtime watchers of this channel have likely heard the rants about geology & plant speciation and will already be familiar with how this rock type and geology influences plant evolution in places like California and New Caledonia for instance. What many people don't know is that the island of Tasmania has its own exposures of serpentine soil in the western half of the island, and on these soils - as there tend be on this kind of geology - there are plants that evolved a tolerance to this toxic kind of geology and have become adapted to it.
    Plant species like Viola serpentinicola (Violaceae) & Micrantheum serpentinum (Picrodendraceae) are Tasmanian Serpentine Endemics, while other plants like Banksia marginata and Drosera auriculata - having already been adapted to nutrient poor soils - are also able to tolerate the serpentine.
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Komentáře • 105

  • @MotoHikes
    @MotoHikes Před rokem +32

    I love hearing about the relationship between geology and ecology, super interesting.

  • @katiekane5247
    @katiekane5247 Před rokem +20

    Living the life & sharing, nice gig. Damn sure healthier overall than your last job. Best part of my Sunday!

  • @Heavilymoderated
    @Heavilymoderated Před rokem +15

    I want to be whipped with eucalypts in the Tasmanian Sepentine Dungeon.

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ Před rokem +8

    Ah, serpentine in luggage, reminds me of bringing some tephra, cinders, and bits of basalt from Dotsero back in luggage as a curiosity (don't worry, they'd already quarried the shit out of the place so a few rocks for curiosity wouldn't hurt it beyond what already happened). An old rockhound friend of mine did the same thing, brought back a bunch of rocks in a suitcase from an Alaskan island many decades ago. It seems that rocks in the suitcase is a remarkably common experience for any rock nerds out there! And of course any sufficiently trained botany nerd will be a rock nerd to some extent by necessity.

    • @errhka
      @errhka Před rokem

      when they ask you if you have any foreign soil when coming back into the country - Me: a rock is not soil

    • @64Pete
      @64Pete Před rokem +2

      @@errhka "They're MINERALS Marie..."

  • @kingpopaul
    @kingpopaul Před rokem +16

    I'm used to droseras in wetlands, not dry rocks, nice to see those adaptations.

    • @efangrim8470
      @efangrim8470 Před rokem +2

      Even though it's rocks, it's in one of the highest rainfall and coldest areas in Australia, not that really dry

  • @krissteel4074
    @krissteel4074 Před rokem +10

    You're thinking Stichtite, its a carbonate of a couple of metals and I know a fella down that way with a lease who mines it on occasion in the serpentine. Where i grew up also had a lot of serpentine in NSW that also managed to get a lot of it stuck in a fairly old fault line (300k years ago from memory) and mashed it into Nephrite making it one of the few place in the country you can find much of it but none of them cool purple rawks.
    Fun fact- more people get bitten by bull ants and die from anaphylactic shock every year than most of the snakes combined. I kind of know why, they are super angry little bastards and will take you to the cleaners for trespassing. So, so angry... and ancient to the point I don't think they've changed much since the split between ants and wasps.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Před rokem +2

      We've got fire ants in the SE USA, each one is less lethal but their swarm & bite at once tactics aren't pleasant. Made my super proper Mom take her pants off in public though. Miss her & we did end up laughing about it.

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 Před rokem +2

      @@katiekane5247 We also had those 'introduced' accidentally somewhere in SE Queensland and they went all out to get rid of them because they're little monsters.
      The Bull Ant is quite remarkable for an ant, they have a few types of them which range from about half an inch long to about and inch and a quarter long, they can jump about 2ft straight up and they see extremely well being an active predator. The worst thing though is they behave a lot like wasps, so if they see an animal approaching the nest from about 10ft away they will get their guard ants to roll out and go sting them repeatedly until they bugger off.
      This is not at all funny! The sting is really quite long and it hurts like a SOB if you've ever been stung by a wasp, its about that bad or a bit worse.
      The worst experience I had with them was going fishing with a friend and we're standing by the car prepping gear on a school holiday, so he gets whacked on the leg and goes jumping around like he's been hit by an electric fence. I think this is hilarious, because 15y/o me was a bit of an arsehole like that, however, I did not notice the 5 of them that had jumped on my left leg and started stinging me through my jeans like I owed them money.
      It hurt so bad and took me about an hour of wandering around to get my feeling back in my leg it was numb and ached like I'd been punched repeatedly.

    • @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer
      @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer Před rokem +1

      I was six years old, in my summer PJs, and sat down practically on top of a nest of hopper ants. Stung about 30 times ... stung all over, if you get my drift 😅. My ol' Mum is freakin' out because Aunty was hospitalised with anaphylaxis from a couple of stings the week before.
      Grandpa rocks up with this bush remedy that's some kind of blue laundry product in a little cloth sack.
      So not only was I covered in painful, itchy stings, I'm also stained with big blue polka dots. I was feelin' pretty sorry for myself, I admit.

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 Před rokem +1

      @@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer Not a lot of people would remember the laundry blue, I think it was mostly made by Reckitts here in Australia and the UK. My nanna used to put it in a big concrete tub in the laundry and it got used on everything from whitening sheets to bathing the chickens in it, it was this brilliant prussian-cobalt blue from all the copper sulfates.
      Dunno if it really contained anything that might counter ant and bee stings but a lot of people swore it did and well, you're still alive at least!
      Another bush remedy was braken fern tips crushed up and applied to the area apparently works to stop it hurting but I've not tried it myself

  • @charlesdeuter
    @charlesdeuter Před rokem +3

    Went to Tasmania right before covid hit. When I visited the zoo I spent a couple hours walking around in parking lot because even it was shockingly beautiful and full of wildlife.

  • @myrmepropagandist
    @myrmepropagandist Před 3 měsíci

    I can't believe I missed this episode with such a charming ant cameo! Jack jumpers "come at you" due to their excellent eyesight. Very intelligent and beautiful little ladies.

  • @Bucketsu
    @Bucketsu Před rokem +8

    I had to look it up. Turns out they filmed the planet parts of Prometheus near the Hekla volcano in Iceland. Would love to see the difference in geology and botanical varieties in comparison.

  • @reivenne
    @reivenne Před rokem +3

    So weird to me to see gorse in that context. I'm Australian but now live in Scotland and love the gorse and heather here, but it definitely doesn't belong there! Makes a lovely yellow dye, though :)

  • @johnridd6774
    @johnridd6774 Před rokem +1

    I studied geology at the university of Tasmania. One of the mapping subjects we did took us to that very serpentine outcrop. Fond memories of that trip. Cheers to you for showing off tassie.

  • @arnorrian1
    @arnorrian1 Před rokem +18

    Serpentine zones are clearly visible on the satellite imagery of Serbia, being bleak and brownish, not verdant green as the surrounding areas.

  • @grannyplants1764
    @grannyplants1764 Před rokem +4

    Love serpentine, that beautiful big rock you held would have come back w me, glad you did not chuck it! Luggage weight, used to be 50 lbs. went to Tucson Gem and Mineral show pre-COVID, bought great mineral specimens from Morocco ( azurite mixed with malachite ) and Mexico ( fishtail selenite, nice!) I am glad you include the geology of the area you are in. Loved those drosera, and it was so interesting seeing how the violets adapted with more compact, ground hugging leaves. And of course a parasite, it seems every continent has them. (Dodder is fascinating, seen in central NJ). Great idea for a book…enjoyed this video, even if that area of Tasmania is not on my botanic travel wishlist like the Anacama desert, and South Africa are! 🌱 🌿. Thank you

  • @EdwinC-xp8mk
    @EdwinC-xp8mk Před rokem +7

    Just like me, thrive out of spite.

  • @markupton3482
    @markupton3482 Před rokem +1

    Thank You!
    We lived on Serpentine, (1985-1990) Round Hill Rd. Redwood City CA.
    If we worked in the yard, hands all scuffed and cut up at the end of the day, like gardening in sand paper!

  • @mandipai
    @mandipai Před rokem +1

    Good morning glory 🌺 Thank you from Idaho!
    StopLavaRidge

  • @Pantherfoot2
    @Pantherfoot2 Před rokem +5

    Identify as a Male and am married but bud I love ya man 🤣 Thanks so much for all your knowledge and time 🤗

  • @snortkarl2070
    @snortkarl2070 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for all the great content 👍 🙏

  • @jedmoser
    @jedmoser Před rokem

    Fuck yeah I love it when you jump right into the videos

  • @JC-nw6yt
    @JC-nw6yt Před 3 měsíci

    I just went to Tasmania and passed Zeehan in search of this exact formation. I didn't stop because we were concious of the weather. I'm regretting this so badly right now after re-watching this. ARGHHHH

  • @asfd74
    @asfd74 Před rokem +2

    How did you get a skink on your hand??? They are so quick and scared. You are a lucky dude.

    • @Farimira
      @Farimira Před rokem

      There's a skill to it but it can be done. Some species are easier than others. Gotta get them when they're a little sluggish but still out in the open. Try to corner them from the front and grab them promptly but gently by the middle so they don't drop their tail. Don't have the will or patience for it these days, unless I need to get one out of the house before the cat finds it.

  • @belligerent369
    @belligerent369 Před rokem +3

    Nice vid I'm on the northwest coast, and I'm keen to see you go through the old growth

  • @Mortifier21
    @Mortifier21 Před rokem +5

    Does an invasive legume also bring it's own symbiotic bacteria? Or is that just the same bacteria across the globe?

  • @JennyBesserit
    @JennyBesserit Před rokem

    I always lose my shit when I hear other people other than me talk about toxic levels of metals in serpentine ❤️

  • @wildcritters5297
    @wildcritters5297 Před rokem

    That smooth piece of serpentine e your we’re holding with streaks is called slickenside that occurs on fault lines

  • @JeffBostick222
    @JeffBostick222 Před rokem +1

    Just what I needed for my Sunday morning. Maybe an interesting metaphor, but not all beautiful things are good for you but you could end up being stunted but still grow given your environment. #rambling

  • @lucyb15
    @lucyb15 Před rokem +3

    Life will find a way. (nugget from Jurassic Park). i believe it.

  • @af8828
    @af8828 Před rokem +1

    I feel like having a drone while you're out there would help you navigate and assess hard to reach places :)

  • @Euphlor
    @Euphlor Před rokem

    Those jumping jacks are nasty buggers. Got bit a few times as a kid.
    No idea what their actual name is but ‘Bush Stitches’ are just as gnarly. 😭

  • @anaritamartinho1340
    @anaritamartinho1340 Před rokem +1

    The habitats in Tasmanian, nice😅...so many diversity of plants, on the serpentine soil of Tasmania😮( "Viola", "Banksia"...)...i remember the "Fritillaria", beautiful plant in California...sandstone, quartzo, climate and the carnivorous plant so strange ( "Drosera")😮... humidy florest, tree near the river😯 ( "Podocarpaceae"...)

  • @ElmoRitter
    @ElmoRitter Před rokem +1

    DROSERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy

  • @brothernorb8586
    @brothernorb8586 Před rokem

    Would it be possible to make a playlist of Al's appearances? I'd love to get a few people hooked on your channel by way of the sea shanty, car troubles and what the shit. I work your channel into comments whenever I can make it relevant. It was the coyote that got me hooked, there's just so much to you..

  • @ExcitedPunch
    @ExcitedPunch Před rokem

    First accommodation listed on that sign is cold beer. Definitely down under.

  • @justincal6817
    @justincal6817 Před rokem

    Great stuff

  • @troygoss6400
    @troygoss6400 Před rokem +1

    I'm so thankful for the breath of fresh wild air in this fucked up reality. Once again, thank you for your view.

  • @Disndushwj
    @Disndushwj Před rokem +1

    Sir you should visit the western ghats in India or rhajistsn in India which is a desert with many plant species mostly angiosperms or western ghats a tropical rainforest which has the same distribution of plants from the subcontinent splitting for madagascar

  • @brianburkart
    @brianburkart Před rokem

    I grew up in the bay area of California... love a good serpentine outcrop

  • @chrissonnenschein6634
    @chrissonnenschein6634 Před rokem +1

    Dont suppose you have a list or playlist of the Greatest Hits of Gondwana Land or the Best of What Came Before? GFYBye.

  • @canadiangemstones7636

    Rocks, plants, and killer ants, great combination!

  • @jedmanson
    @jedmanson Před rokem

    MY MOUTHGUARD! Did you pick it up by any chance or remember where you where exactly?

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 Před rokem

    Nice 👍

  • @64Pete
    @64Pete Před rokem

    Yeah, you don't fuck with those ants, you only ever get stung once, allergy or not. Most painful sting I've experienced.

  • @IjwPetersen
    @IjwPetersen Před rokem +1

    aww here we go i love a serpentine episode

  • @soundsgayimin22
    @soundsgayimin22 Před rokem

    We love you Tony

  • @JennyBesserit
    @JennyBesserit Před rokem

    I CANT BELIEVE YOU TOUCHED THE RETAINER 😂😂😂

  • @LostInThisGardenofLife
    @LostInThisGardenofLife Před rokem +1

    Buongiorno! ❤

  • @missyflutter5562
    @missyflutter5562 Před rokem

    Serpentinegasms are real, also heating whip birds is my happy place ❤

  • @ecomandurban7183
    @ecomandurban7183 Před rokem +1

    🤗🤗🤗🤗

  • @stevesewall
    @stevesewall Před rokem

    wonderful

  • @SussiestCat
    @SussiestCat Před rokem

    shitty santa drunkenly stumbling into the living room in the middle of the night

  • @davec9244
    @davec9244 Před rokem +1

    Great Geology lesion too. Green rocks from Mars, alien without a green card build a wall, to keep the invasive species out. Thank you ALL stay safe

  • @eleborebeta791
    @eleborebeta791 Před rokem

    And there are some gorgeous lycopod in the video.
    i'm in love.

  • @kcrttheking
    @kcrttheking Před rokem

    Myrmicia are the coolest ants 🤣🤣

  • @SaganTheGreat
    @SaganTheGreat Před rokem

    Any chance you could make it up to the Daintree?

  • @mistermobile2615
    @mistermobile2615 Před rokem +1

    Yeah, in California we are careful with serpentine due to the asbestos.

  • @flyingknee9554
    @flyingknee9554 Před rokem +1

    Loving the vids man! This stuff in the pacific is so fucken fascinating, keep up the good work!

    • @efangrim8470
      @efangrim8470 Před rokem

      Tasmania is not in the pacific, it's southern ocean.

  • @larry3591
    @larry3591 Před rokem

    Interesting

  • @peterirwin2913
    @peterirwin2913 Před rokem

    I would like to donate monthly via PayPal ... is there a way to do this?

  • @dukesilver702
    @dukesilver702 Před rokem +3

    Toni Tony Tone

  • @MrsLisaCrow
    @MrsLisaCrow Před rokem

    ❤️

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides Před rokem

    Lycopodium...is that related to Lycolectern?

  • @Smileyson58
    @Smileyson58 Před rokem

    Hey I’ve got an Airbnb that’s all yours if you want it in Sydney city

  • @chrishanby87
    @chrishanby87 Před rokem

    Dont mess with the jumpin jacks mate they are vicious mofos

  • @STONEDay
    @STONEDay Před rokem

    Show me the Tasmanian trichromes!

  • @djchefmark
    @djchefmark Před rokem

    Thanx for the new vids Joey !! and my new favorite term "Roadside Dildo" Keep on being you,& also congrats on "Kill Your Lawn"
    hope that works out for you guys......Chef

  • @Snaperific28
    @Snaperific28 Před rokem

    Would it be cheaper to just box it up and ship it home?

  • @pikiwiki
    @pikiwiki Před rokem +2

    it might be interesting to know what supplements are associated with what plants

  • @jimmyg7100
    @jimmyg7100 Před rokem

    Those are some Handsome looking ants. Do you think they are the primary pollinators in that ecosystem?

    • @efangrim8470
      @efangrim8470 Před rokem +2

      Australian ant nerd here.
      No, yeah they do need sugars/carbs but get that mostly from sap sucking insects that feed on plants and produce honeydew rather than from flowers.
      but they're also hunters of other inverts and seed/fruit collectors.

    • @jimmyg7100
      @jimmyg7100 Před rokem

      The name of my new “Punk’
      Band is Jack Jumpers and the Angry Ants

  • @BluestemGlade
    @BluestemGlade Před rokem +1

    More Gondwana!

  • @LukeMcGuireoides
    @LukeMcGuireoides Před rokem

    Jesus Christ! A discarded retainer on the ground?! Lol, wtf?

  • @caterpillarnana
    @caterpillarnana Před rokem

    It happens

  • @FunghiJacob
    @FunghiJacob Před rokem +1

    😎🤝😎

  • @robyngraham8075
    @robyngraham8075 Před rokem

    Not a raven - a crow.

  • @fenrirgg
    @fenrirgg Před rokem +3

    I heard the anger issues are a sign of small pp 😒 🐜

  • @MotoHikes
    @MotoHikes Před rokem

    Being in the mint family, does Westringia rubiifolia have a square stem?

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  Před rokem +1

      No, square stem is not a solid diagnostic trait for the family

    • @MotoHikes
      @MotoHikes Před rokem +1

      @@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Ah, of that I was unaware. Thanks for replying!

    • @evelyncarr6421
      @evelyncarr6421 Před rokem

      Dang, botany in a day lied to me.

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  Před rokem +3

      @@evelyncarr6421 it's a great beginner text, but if you get serious about what traits unite various families or orders, plant systematics by Simpson is the gold standard

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  Před rokem +2

      @@MotoHikes no problem. Many members of Lamiaceae have square stems. Many also do not. And non-Lamiaceae plants sometimes have square stems, too.

  • @RobinMarks1313
    @RobinMarks1313 Před rokem +2

    I keep hoping you'll stumble across the Tasmanian Tiger. I'm a fool. edit, had to add. Ants are being aggressive. They are being defensive. Oh, the army ants are aggressive taking over other territories, just like us.

  • @Shadowsolider1
    @Shadowsolider1 Před rokem

    Hey crime pays or any one here with a good understanding of families, tell me why Queensland stands out as one of the few calling fabaceae a sub family of legiumaceae?

    • @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
      @CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt  Před rokem +1

      Fabaceae is the family (Leguminosae) is based on an old nomenclature from decades ago. FabOIDeae is one of the 3 (now 5 or 6) subfamilies of the family.

  • @williamwallace3057
    @williamwallace3057 Před rokem

    if you start a cult im down

  • @jackwood8307
    @jackwood8307 Před rokem