These are super interesting! Not sure I would have a use for full tubes of them at the moment, but the colors/textures are really appealing. And I also really like that they used leftover fruit bits to make the pigments :)
grape seed black = single pigment indigo or payne's grey. cherry pit black = single pigment sepia peach stone black = more granulating version of ivory or mars black.
I appreciate your in depth reviews so much! Since I'm in Germany, Schmincke is very prevalent and I've been curious about this range for a while! I was especially concerned about it rubbing off easily, so I'm so glad you included that! I honestly can never resist different shades of black, I might just have to get at least one of them T__T"
I love the Cherry black one. It has a sepia black quality to me with extra granulation. Thank you for sharing! I didn't even know these were out. PS, I wonder if you can draw with the dried out ones?
THANKIS DR. OTO, I find your reviews so intuitive and engaging. It's great how your knowledge helps us all and how you anticipate the questions we need answered before we can ask them.
I'm doing my very best not to add these to cart because I really don't use a lot of black, but they are just so inviting for me for some reason, especially the warm and cool ones. PRETTY. Thank you for giving them a run-through for our benefit, Oto!
The layering tests gave some very interesting results. I like these very much but doubt I would buy more than one initially. I wish they did some smaller tubes as nearly £20 is a large outlay unless you have a serious purpose for them. Thanks for the walkthrough of how these perform. Your methodical approach is very welcome, as is your practical approach to whether or not we actually need them! However I do love working in monochrome so have been considering the warmer black.
I started drawing in pencil before ever using another medium in earnest and shading with different grey hues is a technique often used for architectural studies and sketches, so grey media always make me curious. These are definitely on my radar, but I'm not as methodically as you are when trying things out, so any test you'll do will help me form my opinion and will be much appreciated 😘
Great review. I recently purchased Nitram aquarelle watercolor and love using it for the darkest darks in my watercolor paintings. Thank you for the review and demonstration how to use it.
Those are neat. I really like these black ones, did get the Art Graf tailor shaped and really love how they apply on paper... so I actually could like the liquid ones maybe? Do you by chance know if these ones are rewetable once they dry in the palette?
Didn't know these existed, loved the review. Mixes turned out surprisingly nice! Not sure how you'd use this with regular charcoal though, feels like it is its own thing. I wouldn't use watercolor paper for charcoal drawings but these seem too much like watercolor to paint on regular paper
I hope you'll paint again soon and share with us... I do like these review videos but I would like to see how you paint with all these wonderful products please....
I would have liked to try these but didn't want to buy such a big tube without any knowledge of them so thanks for covering them. Is there any chance you could do dots for patreons?
Been contemplating getting one or more of these paints, for monochrome paintings and for mixing colors to create my own moody colors. Loved this video! Have you heard of/tried Nitram liquid charcoal?
When I've had watercolors not stick like that such as Chinese white, I just wet the bottom and sides then press it into the pallet, when it dries it's stuck. Not sure if it would work with charcoal but it works with watercolors for sure
It is available in several places in the Netherlands I saw, and also Gerstaecker, which I know is in several places throughout Europe. Hope that helps.
Thank you, very much, Oto, for sharing your opinion. I would like to see what you would use it for. I purchased the grapeseed charcoal for its granulation and blue shade and expected to use it as a blacklike watercolor. But it is not. I came up with a mess. I didn't get a dark black and grey tones as I expected. The color came up very easily when I painted a second layer above. And the granulation was more a pepperlike dirty look, than a blueish granulation which you know from lets say the supergrans from schmincke. So I am left with a tube of color and don't know what to do with, as its behavior is so much different than I expected (ie in comparison to mars black). What do you think, would be a good use?
Hello, thank you for your video. Always thourought, your work is greatly appreciated. I think they'd be very useful for monochromatic studies also. I wonder how different they are from the Nitram's liquid charcoal.
@@TammyNewmanArt Wow, that's a bargain! I wonder if you got it from an art store, usually everything porcelain made towards art is $$ compared to "regular" porcelain stuff.
You can pretty much find them anywhere, especially amazon. The flower type are the most common ones and the prices vary from brand and how many wells they have. I've seen many for 15$ on amazon but try to find them cheaper elsewhere, just search: porcelain palette
@@didi7074 so sorry, I forgot to add that I got them for Poundland. They are just small serving bowls for nuts and things, I’m not paying £15+ for some5hing similar just because it says art palette hahaha
A ridiculous product for a ridiculous price. Three different seeds burned for charcoal? Absurd. It's just carbon folks, about the cheapest pigment imaginable.
REALLY? I'm quite eager to give them a try. They'll be much better than Ivory black etc... which I don't care for. I love their granulation. I can't wait to mix them too. For each there own I guess. 🤗 And I actually think they're a good price. Bfn
Come on ppl, do it the right way. Find your local cave, bring a bit of charcoal and you're all set. Or wait, not me then, I'm happy with all the choises the modern world has given me, including charcoal in a metal tube. You're not? Use your own handmade charcoal and a wall in a cave.
@@LisaSandboge because those are the two choices...Schminke or stone age, you really fell for their hype🤪 There is a myriad of carbon based mediums for sale with all kinds of binders, including gum arabic. For less money and without the nonsense (as I said, three kinds of different seeds/pits for three diffrent shade is preposterous). That said, I have willow trees on the farm, and did make my own charcoal sticks, but that's quite a different medium than discussed here so rather irrelevant. And before your fantasy runs away with you again, I apply it on paper, not cave walls.
@@edzejandehaan9265 Hehe, have fun with your willow trees! I'm sure it's quite interesting to learn the process (yes I mean it) but as I cannot do much of that myself I'm so happy I can pay a pretty penny, or dollar, to have a nice tube of paint I like! I'm just happy there are possibilities nowadays, even though the possibilities are sometimes expensive. :)
@@LisaSandboge Thanks! And hey, if you like those paints, and they work well for you, then that's great. Schmincke is a quality brand after all. I am just pretty critical/ sceptical of all kinds of new (gimmicky?) supplies. Watercolor is rather in fashion right now. Also I live in a very expensive country, imported art supplies are ridiculously expensive here, so my default attitude is rather frugal😉
These are super interesting! Not sure I would have a use for full tubes of them at the moment, but the colors/textures are really appealing. And I also really like that they used leftover fruit bits to make the pigments :)
grape seed black = single pigment indigo or payne's grey.
cherry pit black = single pigment sepia
peach stone black = more granulating version of ivory or mars black.
I appreciate your in depth reviews so much!
Since I'm in Germany, Schmincke is very prevalent and I've been curious about this range for a while! I was especially concerned about it rubbing off easily, so I'm so glad you included that!
I honestly can never resist different shades of black, I might just have to get at least one of them T__T"
Interesting! Have been curious about trying these. Thanks for the thorough review.
I love the Cherry black one. It has a sepia black quality to me with
extra granulation. Thank you for sharing! I didn't even know these were
out. PS, I wonder if you can draw with the dried out ones?
Since they’re bound with gum Arabic, I imagine it’d be similar to drawing with the Daniel Smith watercolor sticks
THANKIS DR. OTO, I find your reviews so intuitive and engaging. It's great how your knowledge helps us all and how you anticipate the questions we need answered before we can ask them.
I'm doing my very best not to add these to cart because I really don't use a lot of black, but they are just so inviting for me for some reason, especially the warm and cool ones. PRETTY. Thank you for giving them a run-through for our benefit, Oto!
Ooh, that Grape Seed Black is so 'me'! So interested to see this review, thank you!
The layering tests gave some very interesting results. I like these very much but doubt I would buy more than one initially. I wish they did some smaller tubes as nearly £20 is a large outlay unless you have a serious purpose for them. Thanks for the walkthrough of how these perform. Your methodical approach is very welcome, as is your practical approach to whether or not we actually need them! However I do love working in monochrome so have been considering the warmer black.
You are always my go to when I want info about paints
Oh i Heard about These, awesome to have a review by you, or introduction.
That was so useful! I've been toying with the idea of trying one but had a few questions about it and you answered all of them 🙂 thanks for sharing
I started drawing in pencil before ever using another medium in earnest and shading with different grey hues is a technique often used for architectural studies and sketches, so grey media always make me curious. These are definitely on my radar, but I'm not as methodically as you are when trying things out, so any test you'll do will help me form my opinion and will be much appreciated 😘
Great review. I recently purchased Nitram aquarelle watercolor and love using it for the darkest darks in my watercolor paintings. Thank you for the review and demonstration how to use it.
Oooh I've been waiting for this one!!
Those are neat. I really like these black ones, did get the Art Graf tailor shaped and really love how they apply on paper... so I actually could like the liquid ones maybe? Do you by chance know if these ones are rewetable once they dry in the palette?
Thank you for such an extensive review, much appreciated.
Thank you for the great review as always! I just got the Cherry Pit one. Still exploring this medium.
These are really cool. I doubt I will buy them, but they do look interesting. Thank you for sharing Oto.
Didn't know these existed, loved the review. Mixes turned out surprisingly nice! Not sure how you'd use this with regular charcoal though, feels like it is its own thing. I wouldn't use watercolor paper for charcoal drawings but these seem too much like watercolor to paint on regular paper
Great review as always Oto! The paint looks beautiful, I might have to get a tube!
Please, please, please do a showdown for the flattest, deepest black gouache!!! Inquiring minds must know!
I hope you'll paint again soon and share with us... I do like these review videos but I would like to see how you paint with all these wonderful products please....
Finished watching now, thorough as always. Interesting medium!
Wow you were like the best product reviewer ever 🤗
I’m loving my liquid charcoals, they’re fantastic for experimenting and mixed media
excellent tutor and atmosphere, soft and sophisticated, what joy .
The huge tubes are a bit scary for someone who isn't sure if they will use them frequently. Wish they had a 15ml option as well
I would have liked to try these but didn't want to buy such a big tube without any knowledge of them so thanks for covering them. Is there any chance you could do dots for patreons?
This was really helpful, thanks!
Been contemplating getting one or more of these paints, for monochrome paintings and for mixing colors to create my own moody colors. Loved this video! Have you heard of/tried Nitram liquid charcoal?
When I've had watercolors not stick like that such as Chinese white, I just wet the bottom and sides then press it into the pallet, when it dries it's stuck. Not sure if it would work with charcoal but it works with watercolors for sure
Love the cherry black
Really interesting. Nice review 👍
Cherry pit black looks similar to Voronezhskaya Black from White Nights.
The grapeseed black strongly resembles a Payne's Gray. Interesting!
It looks beautiful. I wish it was actually available anywhere in Europe.
It is available in several places in the Netherlands I saw, and also Gerstaecker, which I know is in several places throughout Europe. Hope that helps.
Schmincke is a German brand, therefore European. So it's odd that it's still not available in many European countries
Thank you kindly 😊
really interesting! I'd love to get them!
Great vid thanks!
Thank you, very much, Oto, for sharing your opinion. I would like to see what you would use it for. I purchased the grapeseed charcoal for its granulation and blue shade and expected to use it as a blacklike watercolor. But it is not. I came up with a mess. I didn't get a dark black and grey tones as I expected. The color came up very easily when I painted a second layer above. And the granulation was more a pepperlike dirty look, than a blueish granulation which you know from lets say the supergrans from schmincke. So I am left with a tube of color and don't know what to do with, as its behavior is so much different than I expected (ie in comparison to mars black). What do you think, would be a good use?
Hello, thank you for your video. Always thourought, your work is greatly appreciated. I think they'd be very useful for monochromatic studies also. I wonder how different they are from the Nitram's liquid charcoal.
I want to test one of them myself now 😁
I’m very curious about the grape seed black. I love blue blacks. How does it compare to the Daniel Smith sodalite?
Hi Oto, Do you know whether this product is vegan? Thanks for the video.
thank you so much ! I actually think you just save a lot of money for me ;)
after your deep review, I think I am not gonna buy that.. ;)
Just so you know your amazon affiliate link for the US did not work.
hello what can i use on charcoal?
Is there a link for the ceramic/porcelain mixing dishes you use?
If you are based in the uk, I got a similar set of 3 for £1
@@TammyNewmanArt Wow, that's a bargain! I wonder if you got it from an art store, usually everything porcelain made towards art is $$ compared to "regular" porcelain stuff.
You can pretty much find them anywhere, especially amazon. The flower type are the most common ones and the prices vary from brand and how many wells they have. I've seen many for 15$ on amazon but try to find them cheaper elsewhere, just search: porcelain palette
@@didi7074 thankyou!
@@didi7074 so sorry, I forgot to add that I got them for Poundland. They are just small serving bowls for nuts and things, I’m not paying £15+ for some5hing similar just because it says art palette hahaha
A ridiculous product for a ridiculous price. Three different seeds burned for charcoal? Absurd.
It's just carbon folks, about the cheapest pigment imaginable.
REALLY? I'm quite eager to give them a try.
They'll be much better than Ivory black etc... which I don't care for. I love their granulation.
I can't wait to mix them too.
For each there own I guess. 🤗
And I actually think they're a good price.
Bfn
Come on ppl, do it the right way. Find your local cave, bring a bit of charcoal and you're all set. Or wait, not me then, I'm happy with all the choises the modern world has given me, including charcoal in a metal tube. You're not? Use your own handmade charcoal and a wall in a cave.
@@LisaSandboge because those are the two choices...Schminke or stone age, you really fell for their hype🤪
There is a myriad of carbon based mediums for sale with all kinds of binders, including gum arabic. For less money and without the nonsense (as I said, three kinds of different seeds/pits for three diffrent shade is preposterous).
That said, I have willow trees on the farm, and did make my own charcoal sticks, but that's quite a different medium than discussed here so rather irrelevant. And before your fantasy runs away with you again, I apply it on paper, not cave walls.
@@edzejandehaan9265 Hehe, have fun with your willow trees! I'm sure it's quite interesting to learn the process (yes I mean it) but as I cannot do much of that myself I'm so happy I can pay a pretty penny, or dollar, to have a nice tube of paint I like! I'm just happy there are possibilities nowadays, even though the possibilities are sometimes expensive. :)
@@LisaSandboge Thanks! And hey, if you like those paints, and they work well for you, then that's great. Schmincke is a quality brand after all. I am just pretty critical/ sceptical of all kinds of new (gimmicky?) supplies. Watercolor is rather in fashion right now. Also I live in a very expensive country, imported art supplies are ridiculously expensive here, so my default attitude is rather frugal😉
Very useful.