IN-EAR MONITOR SOLUTIONS FOR CHURCH WORSHIP BANDS
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You do not need to be a professional musician or have a multi-million dollar church budget to get started with in-ear monitoring. In my opinion, in-ear monitoring can help the struggling worship band on a tight budget make drastic improvements to their sound without breaking the bank. Here are three options for building a wireless in-ear monitor system for your church. This guide assumes you already have the basics of a sound system such as loudspeakers for your congregation and at least a 16-channel mixer. In this example, I am going to use the Behringer X32 to demonstrate in-ear monitor setup. This board has dominated the market of affordable digital boards the past few years and is a popular choice for smaller churches on a budget.
We are looking at in ear monitors for our church, and this is the best explanation of options that I have seen so far. Thank you!
Thanks Ed! Make sure you also check out the latest video I made on wireless in ears with WiFi and iPhone s.
Thanks to this video and other resources I finally made the move to wireless IEMs. I got the Shure wireless PSM300 system. In the past even a wedge didn't help to overcome congregation singing/clapping (out of sync with the backing track). We used the IEM system this past Sunday and it was near perfect.
You say most people don't need a stereo mix, but I went from a mono setup to the personal mixer with stereo capability and the difference is night and day. I would hate having to go back to a mono mix in my ears. Great video, though. I really appreciated your breakdown of systems.
Yeah, stereo is always ideal for sure. But it can get expensive real quick!
I know right? This Gaffe is surprising after all I have gotten a lot of good info from these guys in the past but now I just can’t take them seriously anymore!
@@thecriggster I think in their drive to push out content, they've spread their expertise too thin and don't have time to test/vet all their ideas
So why cant you connect wireless transmitters to the headphone amp??
The one thing you missed with the stage mixers is that everyone has a stereo mix and you don't have to use the busses on your mixer to break it down for everyone. We have a combo of stage mixers, wired and wireless setups for our IEMs. Works great.
Great point.
Stereo, all day long. But I prefer to call it pannable mono because even if all mics and instruments occupy one channel on the sound board, you can still move those mono signals left and right in your head to separate them so turning up one doesn't mask all the others. The personal digital mixers like the P16M allow the panning without making changes to channels and busses on the board. Wireless IEMs are too expensive for me and something else to go wrong. (we're talking RF wireless not bluetooth which I would never consider)
This channel is just amazing. Props!
Thank you!
Churchfront with Jake Gosselin what is your intro music??
We have used the Behringer P1 Power play wired iem. It cost us only $50 each unit and work on the xlr that already comes from the snake. It has been an amazing solution and I think easier than using the headphone amp option.
Yeah I've heard people really liking those too!
The Soliste it would go from your outputs on your mixer through a snake to the input on the P1
I sing at Bonita Valley community church in Bonita ca.. I use ultimate ears 7 (ue7) in ear monitors. Let me tell you this is the best investment for your VOICE! God Bless
THIS IS GOLD
I want to see a band performing with Wired In ear monitoring system (The first option.).
You don't mention the Behringer P1's here 🙁
I watched your videos on IEM and went for the P1's. We only have an analogue system and our snake has 4 Aux😬 ..I have routed lead vocals and lead instruments to Aux1, with some ambiance from a condenser mic in FOH, (and a little bass/backing vocals/instruments to fill as required) and then used a splitter on that output. That goes to L input channel on the P1's then the R channel is routed direct from the instrument (eg from the harp/mandolin guy's mini mixer for his mix, and direct out on the bass DI box). Aux2 goes to R channel in P1 for the backing singers (they share a P1 with a earphone splitter) - they may decide to just have their own mono mix from Aux 2, just using one input on P1, but at the moment they like panning the 2 inputs. The other 2 Aux are left for keys, guitar and lead vocals, which I have to set up. I am doing my best to cope with 4 Aux! And by using P1's I can share a lead mix to all of the P1's L or R channel from 1 Aux is a good workaround!
Thanks for the videos, they really have helped get my mind working!
which wireless in ear monitoring system do you recommend so each band member can get their own mix?
Sennheiser G4, although pricey, the sound quality is top notch. If you have 4 of them, you can use Sennheiser's Antenna Combiner to unify the signals of all the units.
Hey Jake, which option is better: using the headphone amp like the one in the video or using the individual P1 Behringer? Thank you for your help!
Following
Finally Jake uses headamp now 👍 Cek his latest video. My worship now is using headphone amp
I have a question, is it possible to connect a Wireless In Ear monitor into the output of the Behringer HA-8000 instead of going with a headphone cable?
Hello.
Can you make a video showing more in detail the setup #1, the one with the ha800, please show how you do every mix and how you route them to the ha800. It will help a lot to Maranatha Church in Il and im sure that it will help too to many churches.
Thank you
yes we want to see it please jake listen to this guy
Not everything has to be specific to worship you know
The equipment propably explodes if you are not worship Band
@@MultiDevilmaster lol
Hi Jake, this video was super helpful!! Is a similar set up also doable without a mixer? I’m currently running a Behringer UMC1820 interface straight into our DAW for our pre-recorded worship set. We need a total of 6 in ear mixes and the HA8000 you recommend appears to be our solution! I’m not really sure how I would hook both of these units up? First time ever doing this, so any feedback you can provide is highly appreciated. Thanks in Advance!!
Hello I just found your channel and is very helpful...I have a question, you see I'm trying to install in-ear monitor but for a small church that does not have a digital board so Im trying to go the wired route without using apps as most of them are over the age of 30....what kind of gear would I need? thank you in advance!
Thanks for the video We have 7 people on our praise team and we have wireless in ear mics. I want to be able to control each person mix separately from the board. Is this possible or do I need additional equipment (for example) a stage box .
WHAT ABOUT IN EAR MIX WIRELESS OR OTHER TYPE…WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WITH HEARING AIDS??? THANK YOU
i'm using p16s and when my guitarist switches guitars i mute him in the mains on x32... but there is still a pop in the p16s is there a way to stop the pop or a setting for ultranet to be post or pre mute? thanks for the help
Why do you need a headphone amp? Couldn't you connect from x32 aux out directly to headphones?
Good point!
Hi I am the minister of music at my church and I'm looking to set up an in-ear monitoring system that gives us flexibility and control. As of right now we have no need for wireless.
We already have an X32 board, butwe are looking for the band to have our own dry signal that is not dependent on our A/V team. Ultimately we are looking for a plug-and-play situation for the band that is not affected by our sound guy.
We are about to purchase
1. Behringer X32 Rack Digital Mixer
2. Behringer S16 16-channel Digital Snake
3. Behringer P16M Personal Mixing System with P16D Distribution Module
Please let me know if this makes sense, or if there is another option that is better. I appreciate it.
Les
DIGITAL SNAKE Behringer S16
Input 1 - (d) Hi Hat & Snare
Input 2 - (d) Toms
Input 3 - (d) Floor Tom
Input 4 - (d) Overhead Mics
Input 5 - (d) Kick Drum
Input 6 - Misc/Drum Machine*
Input 7 - Bass
Input 8 - Organ mic 1
Input 9 - Organ mic 2
Input 10 - Keyboard 1 (Main)
Input 11 - Keyboard 2 (Aux 1)
Input 12 - Keyboard 3 (Aux 2)
Input 13 - Guitar* (condenser mic)
Input 14 - Click Track/Computer
Input 15 - Talk Back
Input 16 - All Vocals
To
1. Behringer X32 Rack Digital Mixer
OUT TO
POWERPLAY 16
OUT TO Individual
Behringer P16M Personal Mixing System
What are tools i need to run in ear monitor if I’m using behringer XR18
How do I get those separate mixes for the 2 wireless receivers with the 1 transmitter?
transmitter is stereo, so 1 left channel and 1 right channel. The receivers are setup to listen only to the left or the right channel.
Why are all the IEM videos on CZcams specifically for worship bands?
Hi Jake! Unrelated question to the video: What kind of teleprompter setup do you use?
Thank you for your videos and resources! Great work
I don't use them much anymore but i used to use the parrot teleprompter
How would you implement limiters on IEM? As a safety measure for unexpected bang (from mic drops, feedback, equipment power shutdown, etc) in your ear which could potentially damage your hearing for lifetime?
The personal mixer p16 system has built in limiters on each unit that you configure with a single knob. I believe most wireless units have limiters built in to the transmitter as well. For the wired option he mentions, I think you could use compressors on your bus outputs on the x32 to get some protection as well.
What if I don't have that behringer mixer
Hi Jake... Do you know if the first option works with the Behringer XR18, does that mixer have an App like the one you're talking about?
Yes it does. That is our portable retreat setup. XR18 6 auxes feed 6 channels on the headphone app for 6 individual mixes controlled by the X AIR Q app. Works great!!! With the behringer headphone app that Jake shows on one of his videos, you can actually connect 2 wired IEMs per channel if you have more members than mixes(2 people sharing a mix). Hope this Helps!!
Hi Jake, do you have any recommendations for the headphones to use for the wired option? We are considering using the wired option for the E guitar, bass, piano, drums, and keys, but we want to make sure that the ear pieces are not distracting and have good sound quality.
Shure SE215s are my favorite
Whats the deference between having it in mono to having it in stereo? And how would stereo be connected?
Thanks
The difference is like listening to a modern, commercially produced album vs plugging your ears into a 1970's era B&W TV with a mono out and listening to content from that era.
I consider stereo ears monitoring to be the bare minimum for all musicians. I would never be satisfied monitoring in mono. Why spend $1k+ on custom molds 6, 8, etc drivers just to monitor in mono?! The soundstage collapses, there's no spatial depth. It's just a terrible way to monitor that is entirely uninspiring.
Currently have a PSM 300, if I use two body packs and one transmitter will I still be able to hear the Metronome on the left and Track on the right? At least that's how I have them right now.
No, unfortunately you can only have mono signals when you set them up that way, meaning you would hear the same thing in both ears.
if your use a stereo transmitter and split L/R mono signals to two receivers, will they still be both able to listen to click tracks ?
Yep! So long as each mono signal has it's own mix, you can still have click and tracks in both.
With this method, would you need a special type of receiver/transmitter systme? Im using galaxy audio transmitter/receiver system and they dont have an option for panning on the receiver itself.
We have a digital board but it's not behringer. Health and Allen. Will the concept still work?
Yes!
hey bro I want to find out some info, I hope you can help. what equipment can you recommend for an in ear monitoring system, not an expensive one though?
I would recommend starting with a headphone amp and headphone extension cables as described in the first portion of the video. That is about as inexpensive as it gets.
Churchfront with Jake Gosselin ok thank you🙏🏾
Churchfront with Jake Gosselin I have an analog sound craft mixer. What can you recommend so I could get an air monitor for myself and my musicians??
Use pre-fader aux outs for your monitor mixes. You may need mono-to-stereo adapters to connect them to the headphone amp or wireless transmitter. I'm in the process of seeing what we can do on a budget to go from wedge monitors to in-ear monitors, so I'm in the same boat as you, it seems.
I have an Yamaha mg24.will it still work
How many outputs do you have for monitor mixes?
Churchfront with Jake Gosselin it’s a 24 channel mixer but idk about monitor channel.how do I find that
Maybe!
Backing tracks to me are gimmicky... it really boxes in the flow of worship imo.
Too complicated and then starting with what in ear came from is unnecessary
bro...can u talk less? pls straight to the point