My History with Treadwell 3- Final Fatal Mistakes
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- What happened to Timothy Treadwell in the end? My opinions. #alaska #bears #bearviewing #wildlife #alaskawildlife #animals #grizzlybear #grizzlybears #brownbears #bearsafety
Thanks for really explaining your thoughts Brad. That land and all the wildlife is what is important and needs to be protected and valued! Your work and study is very important and allows people that have never gotten the chance to experience in person and my never just how magical Mother Earth 🌎 truly is!
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I had heard. It's really sad that he died and his girlfriend too.
Bears are so interesting. I've always loved bears, I live close to the Great Smoky Mountains and grew up spending time up there often.
Black bears of course are so different.
After I retired, I started reading everything I could, and watching Documentaries to learn.
The coolest thing was learning about the birth of cubs and what determines if there will be cubs and how many. That's just amazing to me.
Again, thanks for explaining why Timothy died. It's important information.
Waiting and watching for Otis to show up at Brooks. He's about 28 1/2 this year.
I've got my fingers crossed for Otis too!
@@katieforeman7947 Last year, I thought Otis seemed healthier than he has in previous years. Toward the end of the year, Otis and 3-4 others went running down the Riffles and up that big hill in the back. That was amazing at his age. I hope he comes back, I cannot imagine never seeing him again. 🧸🐻🧸
I respect your opinion as someone who has so much experience with bears, bear education, and conservation.
The documentary seemed to not only bring a lot of awareness brown bears and habitats, but also highlighting the fact that no one is above it. Treadwell seemed well meaning at his core.
He also saw himself as above the need for caution- for example calling them “his” bears- instead of maintaining that caution and reverence that all forces of nature demand. Ultimately that misplaced sense of superiority lead to a tragic end for not only himself but also his partner.
While his recordings were not meant for the public, I feel that the context given through these recordings highlighted Treadwell as a human being, and not just a loose reference of “man thinks he’s better than a bear and obviously gets killed and eaten”
I really enjoyed your insight. I stumbled across your channel and was hooked when I saw the incident from this past weekend involving the mother and 2 spring cubs/coy...Curious, a few weeks prior you posted a video showing a mother with 2 spring cubs and the coy and mom appeared to be the same involved in the incident. I assume after the bears had departed based on where you recorded from after the battle that no one saw the little one on the backside that you initially thought (or someone did) was taken or killed by the huge male....are there any updates with that???
Also, I was offered an Administrative Position at a hopsital a long way from there relatively (Alaska distances)...in Juneau....I am considering relocating but I am not young anymore and was born in the Florida keys and lived and worked in South Florida butmajority of the time in another southern state.... My mind yearns to experience but I worry my body, maybe not so much.... I guess it all...DEPENDS.... Thanks again for the insight about Treadwell...I've read about the guy and of course like most have seen the documentaries.... fascinating in your office you have to maintain your situational awareness at the highest evel similar to when my time with small direct action teams ...not hunting bear or big game so to speak but really bad and the most evil of creatures...man....
Great chat, thanks for the background 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Treadwell was a good man and had a good heart. Those pictures of him working with those children at the school, and the smile he had in the classroom, happy to just teach kids, make a difference, talk about what he loved, the bears. Him and his girlfriend are in heaven now.
Any reason that turned him anti social is the same thing that can happen to any of us. Its sad. But he was accomplishing things no other man had ever done, was on the forefront of something extraordinary, and felt shunned and ridiculed, by tv, by newspapers, by the governement. And all he wanted to do was protect the bears and the habitat, you could see it in the pictures at the school, right there, he was in the midst of exactly where he wanted to be. Appreciated for his work, the school kids he was speaking to, it was positive, it was memorable to them where someone comes to speak at your elementary school, and youre excited and wanna listen to break up the monotony of regular school, and tim most certainly could feel that and was happy. but on tv, in a news article , or the powers that be he was not liked and many looked at him like a crazy person.
And the tv shows like letterman make him look crazy, and people say hes crazy, and the government doesnt like him being there, and so thats what made him become anti social and turn away from everyone, and in the last few years of his life be more anatagonized.
Appreciate you sharing brother. Enough time has passed thats its wise to have these convos from a lessons learned perspective. Thanks for taking the time. I bet that was pretty special for that group.
This is the best perspective on Treadwell that I’ve heard so far. You seem like a really cool person. Thanks for the stories. Much respect.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and nuanced views.
Thank you! I appreciate it
Thank you for this. People use Treadwell all the time to prove how "bad" bears are, forgetting he spent 12 safe summers there. And I agree about the hunters- how is it hunting to sit at a food source when bears come out of hibernation. It isn't, it is ambushing and makes me so sad to see these majestic animals like that.
Thank you for telling your story here. I watched a number those videos of Treadwell's making, and I was not only critical of how he took those desperate hungry bears for granted, treating them as you said, as if he he was "their god and protector," but how the final movie portrayed him as just another crazy nutjob, oh-so-superior to nature. It made me really angry, and then in the final clips, freaked me all the way out. I'm grateful to see here, a rational, respectful, and astute video clarifying Treadwell's mistakes, and creating a much healthier attitude and true sense of respect for the bears. I can appreciate how Treadwell loved all those bears, and loved being with them, but he didn't respect them nor anyone or anything enough to learn the factual truth about them. He fell into a self-aggrandizing delusion of self-importance, which not only killed him and his partner, but increased the risks operating against all those bears he claimed to understand. He didn't die for the love of those bears. He died because he was ignorant of the biological facts that you brilliantly outlined here, and he was dangerously self-deluded about his own image of himself in relationship to those bears, which put everyone and everything at great risk, causing fear, death, increased threats to those bears, their increasingly threatened environment, and everyone, everything else around them. I'd happily and much rather go on a safe respectful photography adventure quietly observing the facts and truth about those bears, rather than being sold a fantasy island story of danger and risk. Excellant work, and thank you for telling your peace about it all.
This is so well written n inclusive, I don't even need to comment really. U said everything we're thinking n feeliing. So, TY :-)
Will you carry a firearm when you go on your "respectful" photographic journey? Or will you rely on the "kindness of nature" to protect you?
Wow that was a very thoughtful and astute response. Thank you.
I have never carried a firearm here, in 25 years of guiding people to see the bears. No need.
@@bradjosephs So far
Thank you for sharing. I always wondered about him after listening to the audio of him and the bear that ended it. 🙏🏼
Herzog doesn't make movies about "mad men." He fabricates and crafts a story to show the truth of the situation, which is what he did in Grizzly Man. He showed Treadwell's imaginary relationship with the bears, where he believed himself to be magical and how his narcissism blinded him. He showed Treadwell projecting on to those bears with very little regard for the bears themselves. I think it's admirable you still have any respect for Treadwell, not because he seemed so silly in the documentary, but I don't think you realize it was not lost on all viewers of Herzog's film that what Treadwell did was create a negative stigma for the animals he claimed to love by making it about himself. I don't think Herzog vilified the bears in any way.
Totally agree why trash talk about the guy. And yes, those were some fatal mistakes that were made. It was his life and he saw things in nature that most people will never see. Pretty sad actually but he died doing what he loved. Thanks for
The one thing that confuses me the most is why bears break in human homes to get to the good stuff one black bear made it to the local news for stealing OREOS every time he broke into a different house
@@velvetbees right he will be there all night with them cookies😎🥛
Thanks for opening up about your experiences with him and thoughts. Really insightful.
What company do you guide for? Might be heading back to Alaska in a year or 2 and would like to hire you for a day to see bears.
Brad I have a lot of respect for you and was fortunate to have worked with you a couple seasons.
The one thing that pisses me off is why the heck Amy didn't run away and try to save herself ! She couldn't do much anyway to save him. I mean, if the bear was busy ripping him off and therefore having enough flesh to consume, was it still interested in chasing Amy and kill her as well?
Of course it was still interested in eating her because it was starving. And Treadwell at first was telling her to hit it with a frying pan. She certainly was not being a typical woman normally just care about themselves.
woody harrelson is all to blame if Timmy would have gotten that cheers role
Also it's very easy for people to be rude and hateful...As far as Treadwell those rude and hateful probably could not even withstand the tiny relentless bitting insects on those marshlands let alone Giant Bears ! Treadwell had issues yet most of us do! He was not a evil person he was just passionate and truly cared! Your Spirit Brad and Treadwell's are very similar in that way alone! You both really care about Mother Earth 🌎!!! ✌ Peace Brother
Very interesting, especially about how Bears get ready for hibernation and can get really cranky.
You said it so well! I feel people judged too quick and too disrespectful towards this guy and this is no doubt he was a nutcase in some way but you can see he had a good heart too. From some footage of his own, I can clearly see he was very aware of the danger of being killed by bears and he even said so on the camera and every second he could been destroyed by these bears. RIP Tim!
I have stubbled across your channel , I find your channel very interesting and informative . Much respect to you and your crew , Question are the bears safe there or are they hunted , I am not a hunter and believe they should be left alone the way nature intended them to be. I also have watched the Grizzly man and thought there were times Treadwell got to close to the bears , it was truly a sad story for a man that loved bears only to be taken by one
We've just started watching ur channel n we've already learned a lot. Sure, there are lots of opinions n we try to dissect n learn from those we respect.... but you, this channel seems almost intellectual, along w compassionate, kind, fair n honest. So may I ask you a ???? plz. I didn't know hunters can kill bears at the park; does that include the Katmai National Park, Brook Falls? TY
Thank you so much!
No hunting is allowed in katmai national park, but it is in katmai preserve sadly
Bean watchung the , brooks falls bears with mike fitz..past 2 years..only bears id seen besides tv were people who luved teddy bears..
Really ave enjoyed the conservation , the bears, grazer, chunk, 747, etc.
Thanx for your videos..
If you see bears 68 or 480 otis, out where you are, Theres 2 great male bears...thanx again..
Thank you for your wisdom and perspective. ❤
I thought the bear that killed him was one he didn't know.
That was a rumor but it wasn’t true. I remember the bear
Nothing especial about bears, they will feast on whatever they can, wild animals
Stay away, stop trying to make it look like that they will accept you
They won't, keep your distance
Yes hunters are worse then animal's, they are not even humans
Thanks for sharing that