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HUGE Yemen Houthi Missile & Drone Strike On US Carrier Group In Red Sea (WarGames 183) | DCS
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
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Today we simulate a US Carrier Strike Group passing close to Yemen. Houthi insurgents launch a coordinated strike using C-802 anti-ship missiles, Iranian drones and Scud missiles. Will the carrier group survive? If so, could it pursue and stop the attackers?
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Just wanted you to know I thoroughly enjoy being a “Valued Viewer”.
It’s a lot of work what/with all the scenarios and weapons systems and I wanted you to know I do appreciate ya’lls work.
Thanks everybody.
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Amazing vid, Cap! DCS fails to model the US' most powerful weapon in senarios like this: Electronic Warfare. In reality, those cheap drones and missiles would be VERY vulnerable to jamming since they dont have Electronic Counter Counter Measures. I believe majority of the incoming fire would be taken out just by EW. The rest can be handled by SAMs.
I'm only at the scuds so far, but I couldn't help myself and had to comment. Amazing visuals in this mission, truly epic with the altitude, missile volume, and area of the map allowing you to visualize everything so well. Great job! We need more scenarios that use scuds hah.
Maybe some sort of fictional US amphibious landing in the same region?
Noted J.
Dark here. There are some moments in VR were things all of a sudden feel very real. Watching that from the deck was one of those. I was genuinely scared. I lost all sense of it being a game and I did not want to be on that deck anymore.
@@Thewhitetile It was great. Perhaps it's time for GR to do a short film.
@@jamison884 isn’t that what we normally do? Haha no I get what you are saying. Reminds me of the mirage F1 video where we had to defect. We got in character for that one haha. Bird? I think as the commander was so good.
@@Thewhitetilebecause of VR?
I dont play DCS but I love your videos, always fun to watch!
I installed that but I don't play
Recently, the USN cleared the Super Hornet to carry the StormBreaker glide bomb. That thing can hit targets from forty miles away.
If you decide to do another swarm vs. carrier group battle or replay this scenario again, you should do it with Super Hornets carrying StormBreakers.
Realistically, I believe, we would have a few aircraft airborne already for something like that as well as having an AWACs up to assist with targeting
In my eyes it’s a loss for the US, look how much more it costs to defend ourselves, as long as carrier groups stay around hostile regions the longer insurgents will just drain the US resources
We're not blindly going through a choke point without birds and eyes in the sky ahead of us.
You are afraid you would lose your free money and food from the government. Very typical. @@ericp4573
@@ericp4573you blind then
This is a great simulation. I was on CG-55 and passed through here many times. It was always tense.
Shorty after the Yemen launch, the B2s shadowing the fleet would drop their JDAMs on pre selected targets throughout the area.
Yes that's fair.
Booms and Beers didn’t disappoint
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YES! Idk if I was the only one that asked for this or not but thanks for doing it!!
Interesting scenario. Would be fun to revisit in the future with some complexity added in. Such as maybe civ traffic on the road or stopped near the road to be avoided? Also most, maybe all, of your scenarios have near perfect intel, which doesn't seem realistic. In this scenario for example, you didn't know what route the fleeing trucks would take, but you did know all opposing forces and their locations at the start. I suggest that occasionally you add-in some enemy assets that GR doesn't know about pre-mission (and if you are flying you have to not act on the knowledge). In this scenario, maybe a SA-6 site inland that unexpectedly turns its radar on mid-mission, or a couple of rogue Iranian F-5s, or if you're feeling nasty, F-14s, show up and a scud hunt turns into a dog fight. I wouldn't suggest this more often than once every 3-4 scenarios, but even when you don't add in the 'incomplete intel' trick, I bet GR will be just a bit more tense and on their toes.
I agree.
These videos are great, but I also wonder whether this platform could be stretched to mirror more of the complexity of actual events. Perhaps you could add conditions unknown to human participants, like escalation aimed at less protected nearby assets in case of US troops targeting specific Huthie assets. Not sure this is the best way to go about it, but it could be nice to raise the bar somehow.
Thanks!
I had to open another tab so i could have the the carrier scene from The Sum of All Fears playing as the scuds launched. there's just something about watching the missiles hitting zennith and hearing "THERE! It's a weak signal, low on the horizon!" "TAO, AirSup, inbound contact! Multiples on the same bearing!" "Vampire! Vampire! Vampire!" "Fast movers inbound! I've got 7, 8, 9 of them!"
WarGame proposal: what is the cheapest way to get a hits on a single Aegis cruiser?
My guess is launching lots of the cheapest rockets that can pose enough of a threat to require engagement. I suspect it wouldn't even need to be time-on-target as the goal would not be to saturate the defenses and leak some through but rather to drain the magazines and leave them with nothing to defend with.
Interesting...
My money is on Scuds
If you can sucker them in close enough: something like Qassam rockets at
Well the cheapest option in total is to amass thousands of cheap, unguided rockets like the Qassam and launch them when the cruiser passes by. However, the cheapest *effective* way to hit an Aegis cruiser is probably use something like the Miltec LCM (literally 'Low Cost Missile') or 3M-24 Uran. Both missiles cost less than 500K USD and are ARH with shaped charge warheads and programs to maneuver. You would still need probably tens of millions of dollars worth of them, but it's much cheaper than using a YJ-21 (9.5$M USD) or a 3M-22 Zircon (up to 15$M USD).
@@theaxgame maybe a mix of both? The point of the cheap stuff isn't to hit anything, it's to force a reaction. Once they quit getting reactions, launch the real stuff. Really ideal might be a mix of lots of cheap and a little good where they look the same for as long as possible.
Perhaps two important points DCS cannot simulate are the accuracy of the missile and the jamming factor. I don't think scud is accurate enough for attacking moving ships
True
But it (and the Shaheds) can distract Aegis for the Silkworms
That was fun, your boys were a little off today, but super cap put in some work! Thanks for the content!
'only four people cause its hard to get more for an early morning raid like this" too funny! Thanks for the content
Smashing video, Cap and Team.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!! THANKS CAP & TEAM!!!!!!!!
At 7 mins in insert Star Trek Wrath of Khan's "Where's the OVERIDE???" scene!!!
😆Just crazy!!!
This would be a good test of Aegis vertical launch with the fully-active Type 6 (self-contained full-up tracking ability; just an initial aim point value from the fire-control and many WHOOSHES straight up). The earlier versions had to have the ship's radar support the semi-active Types and thus fewer targets can be handled at a time. The Type 6 is indeed a very good thing here!!!
The Houthis are doing this today! Are you guys practicing predictive programming?
Remember, it's only Simba if it's from the Simba Region of America, otherwise it's just Sparkling Cap.
90% casualty rate for the op for is still pretty good, Cap. extrapolating, that is.
Be a bad day to be transporting sewer pipes
Imagine someone seeing stuff like this from a few hundred years ago. They’d genuinely think this was magic
For the Yemen rebels as it's not an army it probably also looks like magic so big the diff is.
You might wanna check the DDG and CG count that the IKE actually transisted with!
I'm confused. Why is this scenario played in Egypt? Yaman is WAY down the Red Sea where it meets the Gulf of Aden. Your labeling is incorrect, this map shows where the Gulf of Suez meets the Gulf of Aqaba to form the Red Sea (that Dahab, Saini hint there). Bab Al-Mandeb Strait is much narrower and poses a much greater risk to any ships (especially a US Carrier Strike Group) going through it.
Map with Yemen not available in DCS
I would love to try flying with you guys, I have a good 50-100 hours of flight time with a plethora of modules.
😂
Good work as always GR!
@Grim Reapers - Great video, Cap.
20:30 - That is what you would call, "Puttin Warheads on Foreheads!"
"Safe in the mountains"? The United States can and have altered the geographical landscape.
As soon as you said "and then run back into the mountains," I was hoping you hid some manpads back there.
Had to click on to see whole title... Just more Bravo Sierra
Also? if the straits are only 20nm wide, would it be theoretically possible to pincer a US carrier group with torpedoes fired from the coastline?
I thought Simba was invincible by now but he parks the velocity vector. tsk tsk.
Yeh that was a rare slip.
Type 45 vs arliegh burke tomorrow right cap? You said middle of next week last week.
Tomorrow 1700UTC
First off the Navy would/should be aware of what missiles and launch areas and where they would be set up. Plus awacs and drones would be in the air. So, when the first missile was launched it would be known where it came from. Carrier would be launching aircraft and support ships would be launching missiles. The carrier would launch every aircraft that could fly, then turn away and go further out to sea. The aircraft would know the area the carrier would be and return to those coordinates. This is called an alpha strike. Those aircraft would be recovered, hot refueled, rearmed and launched. I have great confidence in the carrier battle group and the sailors aboard them.
And our carrier is still floating full of good stuff
Great video GR team!!
Ah... if. Yeah man
i believe one or all of those islands to the west of the CSG are controlled by houthis- i seem to remember something from years back where weapons were caught being delivered there. have you done a simulation where the CSG is attacked from multiple directions simultaneously? i don't know if itd make much of a difference but just an idea to complicate things.
He has and it actually makes defending easier both in game and in real life.
USN started back in March of this year of testing out the replenishment of VLS system at sea, for the warships won’t have to visit a port. Then again it’s in the testing phase
Maybe have the attacker fire its missiles so that they all would arrive at the same time, giving defender less time to react and target missles
All of those missiles blowing up look just like flak barrages from WW2
Real word: if a carrier had good enough reason to make that run, would they have the fighters in the air and weapons free? Or maybe stated to other way: if the situation isn't urgent enough to kill anything that looks like an active threat, why would the CV be there at all?
Also, does DCS have any UAVs? SEAD missions with defend-only/shoot-second rules of engagement would seem to be a great application of "disposable" UAVs as they would allow you to know exactly where a lot of the SAMs are right up until the other side launches. That combined with a ship launched equivalent of MLRS could be rather interesting.
CSGs sail past the cost of Yemen after transiting the Suez Canal which happens from time to time as part of normal naval operations.
@@duanemckinley9353 IIRC Yemen isn't on good terms with Saudi Arabia so even under "normal naval operations" it may be politically viable to have attack planes in the air ready to respond to anything overtly threatening. Time of flight might make it impossible to kill the launchers before they get something off, but if the aggressor knows the best case is they will 100% not be getting the launchers back and likely wouldn't even get to fire a full load before they die that would probably make a difference in their thinking.
Actually, what might make a viable strategy would be a super-saturation attack using something like Qassam rockets (the launcher is cheaper than the rocket and thus expendable) with a goal of forcing the CSG to expend it's air defenses. (E.g. present more potential threats than the defender has missiles to shot them down with.) Maybe as a prelude to something more targeted?
That line of thinking is making me yet again think that the 1st world militaries are going to need to develop some high-volume/low-cost defensive systems just to buff the kills/engagement stat.
The USN would absolutely have a CAP at a minimum in the air when doing something high risk like transiting through a straight next to a hostile country and potentially various manned and unmanned USAF assets in the area to support if the risk was high. You would have to ask Cap, but I suspect that they had issues with getting hit by friendly missiles if they didn't wait to take off. That is a potential issue in real life although there a number of ways to mitigate that issue.
There are a large number of issues in successfully performing swarm attacks on a CSG. Qassam rockets and the like are cheap, but they also have very short range and have no guidance to target anything much less something moving and maneuvering at 30+ knots in the sea. Systems like Aegis are capable of calculating trajectories and discriminating between threats and non-threats leading to much higher interceptor efficiency. While Gaza's dense urban landscape and massive tunnel network allows for surprise volleys against Israel, the Houthi's lack those advantages meaning that any massing missile forces would alert the CSG who could simply avoid them or would cross through prepared to strike them the moment they moved. They weren't used in this SIM because nothing got close but system like CIWS and SeaRAM are able to perform moderately high volume and relatively low cost intercepts of anything that happened to get close. The basic economic issue is that giving a weapon range, speed or accuracy makes it expensive which then precludes a low budget force using them in volume.
The US is still concerned with further reducing cost to intercept low-cost munitions which is exactly the thinking behind systems like HELIOS, LAWS and the LWSD although none of those can handle a particularly large swarm on their own yet.
@@duanemckinley9353All valid points. But the gamesmanship has some other options open. If you can have fake rockets ready to "launch" for months on end you can force every CSG to a high alert posture which is a win of sorts all by itself and would just require a few thousand fence posts and lengths of drain pipe.
Also relevant is if you can make the real launchers stupid cheap. The CSG and CAP can't know which are real until it's launched and no longer worth hitting.
It's yet another action/reaction game that is far from clear where it will end up.
@@benjaminshropshire2900 that would only be true if every CSG was permanently stationed in straits next to hostile ground forces. The reality is that they get stationed in either friendly ports or open water so that when the CSG is doing something especially risky they will stay alert for the couple of days until they get back into open water where they are relatively safe.
What you’re showing as above almond up it’s actually the southern side of Sinai peninsula
Super cool video! I thought that Shahed drones could only be fired at stationary targets. Am I wrong?
Reaper flight your cleared to engage! Love the VID!
This will probably be on the BBC a s " US carrier group suppress Yemen attack"
What’s a good BUDGET Flightstick for DCS? I have the turtle beach velocity and it doesn’t seem to map very well to the game. (Could be user error) but I’d LOVE to play this game. (Maybe even with you all.)
@@rucker69 right…. Example?
It would be interesting to add civilian traffic to make it harder to spot the vehicles
As if US fascism ever cared for collateral damage...
Numbers. It doesn't matter if you have the greatest technology, a simple explosive not blocked because there is insufficient munitions will be just as effective as a 'high tech' weapon which evades defenses...
Hey Cap, the Zumwalt class destroyers are being fitted with hypersonic missiles. Could we see them face off the Chinese Type 055 with the YJ-21 in the next naval wargames?
The hypersonics the Zumwalt will be getting will be for land attack, they won't have an active seeker iirc. So they can't be used as anti-ship. Maybe it'll become available at a later version
Its a destroyer it will def be fitted with an active seeker capable of hitting moving naval targets. It wont be just land.@@apolloaero
@@blvck.8197 kinda like how they removed the Maritime Strike Tomahawk? It might be a future development, like how they're doing increments with the PrSM, but it won't have an active seeker in the 1st version
I think the boats and drones should have been launched first so everything reached the fleet at the same time. That would give the attack the best chance of doing damage since there are only so many defensive missiles that can be in the air at the same time. Plus, it would limit the FA/18s since the airspace would need to be clear for SAMs. Also, we need a crossover video with Binkov's Battlegrounds sometime.
"Viewingtons", LOL
I love these swarm attacks, but realistically they dont represent proper strategy. Its open source knowledge that a carrier strike group has about 1k anti-air missiles, plus their seawiz. A competent military strategist would be sending atleast of 3k missiles/drones to overwhelm. I know there are tech limitations to actually doing that, however that would be more representative of if china actually wanted to take down a strike carrier group.
Exactly and the real forces in Yemen would never be dummy enough to start something as this they can't even defend themselves from SA. Their armed forces are maybe at ten percent the rest is defeated or running to their families if those still are alive they where under attack since 2015 I can't imagine why cap thought this would break sweat
Why would China want to do that ?
@evan6034 money, power, resources. But if china were going to do it, it would be much larger. Theyd probably covertly convert container ships to arsenal ships with modular missile launchers in shipping containers. Thats 10-20k missiles (both anti-land/ship and anti-air, or suicide drones). They would do a coordinated strike on both us coasts to blow up our ports, shipyards, naval bases, and carrier groups and bases in korea/japan/phillipines/hawaii.
Not for an invasion mind you, but to remove the USA from having any influence in the pacific. Then they could subjugate Australia for food imports, japan for tech, and taiwan for chip manufacturing. In a day they could become the worlds only supplier of microchips and the US wouldn't be able to build a naval presence again for at least a decade and likely would lose status as a world power.
@@tinfoilsays China is just a country trying to survive and feed it's people, forget about chips and all that nonsense,,In the mean time they are a threat to white supremacists simple because they don't have there hands out begging and asking for US protection.
I kinda like the shorter, limited uploads
That one engagement probably consumed a not minor % of all the SM2 missiles in stock the US has and a probably even bigger % of what the US navy has available in the CentCom Area I mean i think they only build like a couple of hundred a year tops
to easy, you miss the electro optical sam system of the Houthi
Hi! I love watching your simulations, guys. I don't know much about the procedures, but shouldn't a strike group in an unfavorable region have at least two pairs of fighters in the air, if not more? Next question. What would happen if 5,000 drones, missiles and other armed flying objects were launched from hostile territory towards the strike group? Your film shows how little costs have to be incurred to threaten a fleet worth several thousands percent more.
Huh. That explains why nobody in the region has decided to give it a go. That, and nobody's too interested in the complimentary decade worth of Operation Find Out.
A bit misleading to use the Yemeni flag in the thumbnail when the Houthis don't represent the Yemeni Gov., although the alternative, the Ansarullah banner they have would probably violate CZcams's community guidelines...
@@angrytoaster610 "Well, I havnt noticed a houthi flag either,"
Uh, that's the point... though GR would probably have to censor parts of it...
"so that's a bit unfair to criticize that minor detail."
I did say "A bit misleading..."
also, the political implication is pretty huge. It's like equating the LPR/DPR as the same thing as the Ukrainian government, or the FARC as the Colombian government or Boko Haram as the Nigerian government.
The Houthis are the largest military force in Yemen and the Yemen government supplies them, houses them and coordinates with them. Yemen uses them as plausible deniability. Do better research before you start trying to "correct" others... bet you still think Hamas doesn't represent Palestine.
@@enoch52 The Supreme Political Council=/= Presidential Leadership Council. The Houthis have been at armed conflict with the Saudi backed Yemeni government since 2014 when they invaded Sanaa. Both the STC and PLC as of 2022 are joined against the SPC who are backing the Houthis.
"Do better research before you start trying to "correct" others... "
This is excellent advice if only it hadn't come from someone who is so ironically inept to deliver such advice.
"bet you still think Hamas doesn't represent Palestine."
The fact that you think that any valid opinion towards the situation in Palestine can be distilled into one sentence is extremely telling as to your own knowledge on the subject.
@@colbunkmustso tell me then why while I was in Yemen last year and into this year the houthis had orders from the Yemen government on a regular basis? Why did the houthis organize humanitarian drops for Yemen? Since you know so fucking much please tell me.
Yeh that's a tough one, I wasn't really sure which flag to use lol.
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no. not even a possible scenario. what do they have? 20 scud missiles and a 1000 1940's rifles.
U don't know that tho
They have cruise missiles and drones. Been lobbing them at US bases and Israel. They are supplied by Iran.
I looked into it, their inventory is actually fairly modern. Mainly relying on Chinese C-802 guided anti-ship missiles.
game it,s game, war its war
Interesting.. while watching this video I get a news alert "Destroyer USS Thomas Hudner shot down a drone from Yemen in the Red Sea" creepy..
As of November 15, 2023, the Royal Saudi Air Defense Forces have intercepted over 1,000 ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones launched by the Houthi rebels at Saudi territory since the start of Operation Decisive Storm in March 2015.
According to a statement issued by the Saudi Ministry of Defense, the Air Defense Forces successfully intercepted 38 ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones in October alone.
The Houthi rebels use a variety of missiles and drones, including Scud ballistic missiles, Quds cruise missiles, Samad drones, Qasef 1 drones, and Shahed 129 drones.
The Houthis target Saudi territory with these missiles and drones in an attempt to cause damage to Saudi infrastructure and loss of life..
I would imagine that satellites might be used to track drone trucks grouping near the coast where they can be cluster-bombed before the carrier group comes within range.
Not to mention recon drones of the strike group itself.
and what gives america the right to attack other nations ? if they want to have their weapons near the coast let them
@@ThePadadada good point. I guess there has to be an exact moment when it becomes an attack where you could actually defend.
@@ThePadadadauhhh idk bro if they all lined up on the coats pointed their guns at my ships traveling through the strait and were actively making threats against me i wouldn't have a hard tine proving it was a credible threat
the drone trucks look identical to civilian lorries and wouldn't be identified until they fire. So unless the US has good Humint in yemen (which it doesn't) you won't see it coming.
First and I really don’t think that Yemen could successfully sink a US Navy Carrier Fleet.
But they could successfully cause minor
(0.000001%) damage to the fleet(if extremely lucky) but nothing that would really reduce the fleet’s combat effectiveness to continue operation in the area.
"First and I really don’t think that Yemen could successfully sink a US Navy Carrier Fleet."
The scenario wasn't US vs Yemen, it was US vs Houthi rebels which are enemies of the Yemeni government.
@@colbunkmustthank you but Cap said Yemen. But I do understand the error.
Although even if the Houthi rebels did try to attack the Carrier Fleet, the moment they start moving the launchers into position. They wouldn’t have enough time to saturate the fleet with missiles because the moment a launch is confirmed. The US Navy would already be launching a preemptive strike against the launchers.
I mean the fleet going Winchester on air defense muntions is probably a withdrawal condition. They don't actually have to get through, just deplete the fleet's Sams to the point they have to leave the area and rearm.
@@92HazelMocha Going winchester would be, but this is only 21% of its missile capacity (using the configuration modeled by CH in DCS) ignoring RIM-116Bs,
@@duanemckinley9353Actually that's close to 25% of AD munitions (not counting resupply ships). So they're not dry by any means, but it is a significant chunk of loaded sams.
Play time is over...
Simulate the hot air balloon situation that happened earlier in the year in the US.😊
Maybe do a battle between Orcas & Sharks… ☮️
I wonder how effective the bushmasters on the ships are against the shahed drones 🤔🤔
Likely very effective
I'd keep an eye out for little relays along the flight path of drones, could be mobile relays along a highway or even boats in the area.
man I thought this was like a news report...
USS Mason faced 9x 802 and her Aegis + SM-2 and ESSM's got a work out when she was attacked in 2014 or 2016
Cap, How would it go if you used LJDAM (GBU-54)? They can be dropped from further out and are capable of hitting moving targets.
Do they have it in DCS?
Surely the Yemenis would have launched in the opposite order, Scuds first, Drones second and ASM last to get something more like a TOT attack
Cool mission
Yemen... more like yeah man!
I'm more than positive the ships canons could make short work of the manpads.
14:30 Ye-ME-ni, SuperCAP
Well they just tried but actually did even worse since the missiles just fell into the sea
Yeah, man is way down south and Saudi Arabia near to the Arab see
WHY would a US carrier group even ENTER that area before destroying every Houti missile site using those carrier fighter aircraft? Unless, of course, they were sure their defenses against Houti munitions were 100% effective?
This video aged well.
You baited me so hard. Great video though.
I want to see FATAH-2 HGV with 17 mach speed and maneuverable
Good fun but wouldn’t the carrier group have multiple CAPs ( Combat Air Patrols) in the air at all times. Not to mention ready aircraft on the catapults. Especially as they traverse the Suez Canal quite frequently and would know what to expect?
Shaheeds doing 450 knots... Really? 🧐
Yeah man!
I see they took notes from Iran lolol
That's not Yemen on the map. It's South Sinai, Egypt.
0:22
wonder if some sort of cluster warhead could be placed on a scud? that popped at high altitude..AEGIS is insanely good
I love my countries defense budget!
Can you fly Romeo sea hawks as armed recon? I know CSG and amphibs have flown Zulu cobras or Yankee hueys as armed recon when traversing through the straight of Hormuz for fast reaction strikes against pop-up threats before. I reckon a few armed recon hornets with a mixed load-out (1 amraam + atflir or two amraam + lightning in vmfa's, aim-9x, and mix of 1 Maverick/harm, 2 gbu-12/49/JDAM (or CBU'S rarely) and 2 bags, or double-ugly w 1 amraam + atflir, maverick, 2 gbu-12, 1 harm or gbu-31). Having some of those up on highest threat axis looking for potential pop-up threats would be a good offensive fleet defense posture going into such tight straights (hormuz, al-bab, malaka). Would be interesting to see how this would affect the engagement.
Scud ain't gonna hit a moving target unless by accident even if they got through..
The thing is Houthy can try but it is not going to. Nothing more than talk and anyone with common sense is aware of that. They can talk that talk but they can't walk that walk.
So Tomahawks wouldn't be used?
why? why us ship is threre?
Laser guided munitions are one of the cheapest and most effective ways of striking moving ground vehicles although SDB-IIs or Mavericks would probably perform better in this scenario then the Paveways. Tomahawks are not designed to hit moving ground vehicles and have a completely excessive warhead and cost for this purpose.
Annoyingly TMs currently not working in game, hence why I haven't used them in last few battles.
😥@@grimreapers
But there is always fighters and drones in air beforehand