Building houses for our little neighbours | Spring in Northern Sweden

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2023
  • Episode one hunded and sixteen in which we are building some birdhouses, and Mathias and Ivar is building a climbing wall.
    Some instructions on building birdhouses:
    www.talasbuan.com/english-blo...
    This is a vlog about our struggles and joys of living off the grid in the forests of Jämtland, Sweden.
    If you like what you see and want to support us you can do so here: / talasbuan :)
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    Take care,
    Tova, Mathias and Ivar

Komentáře • 183

  • @SAnneD-dp8el
    @SAnneD-dp8el Před rokem +66

    OMGoodness! It's so wonderful to watch that little boy grow up! He's so lucky to be growing up the way he is in such a lovely home with such wonderful parents!

  • @karenfleet2287
    @karenfleet2287 Před 11 měsíci

    A young child’s dream ,your beautiful parents how blessed to have parents who interact with their children,instead of just telling them to go play😊🇨🇦

  • @margaretcooke7016
    @margaretcooke7016 Před rokem +22

    It is always so wonderful to see you. Ivar is growing up so fine. He is a very smart little boy. Living in the Firest us very good for him. He will have so much respect for Nature. Blessings

    • @sandrasprinkle9540
      @sandrasprinkle9540 Před 11 měsíci

      Do you all never have wildlife other than song birds? I'm 75 and we never had whitetail deer, black bears, turkeys in our area until about 8 years ago. Now we see them daily. With you living with forest all around I would think you might have to be cautious like us!

  • @noreenlawlor3700
    @noreenlawlor3700 Před rokem +42

    Such a joy to see your latest video. Thank you for transporting me to your beautiful calm world. It fills me up. Also thank you for caring about our feathered friends. Lovely to see Ivar so chatty and involved with everything. What a wonderful childhood he's having. Love and blessings to you all from Ireland.🧡

  • @mariamunroe6861
    @mariamunroe6861 Před rokem +22

    Like always , I feel like I just watched a movie..., A beautiful movie with beautiful scenery and beautiful People..., Skiing,, automobile, rock climbing wall and much more..., Oh Yes very special to try to help take care of our Birds....Thank You.

  • @joelleschmidt5944
    @joelleschmidt5944 Před 11 měsíci

    I sincerely hope that we have many little Ivar around the world , they will be needed to lead this new generation into the right direction

  • @janetmorgan-rosen8096
    @janetmorgan-rosen8096 Před rokem +23

    You are wonderful parents. Ivar is so lucky to have such engaging parents. I love this video

  • @rosemariemchugh988
    @rosemariemchugh988 Před rokem +26

    You are just the most wonderful/giving/loving of families. Ivar is very lucky indeed and he has this inprint in him and he knows what true love means. May God Bless your family all the way.

  • @rosemariemchugh988
    @rosemariemchugh988 Před rokem +9

    'Birdsong is absolutely essential to life'. I so agree. Thank you all.

  • @merakitra
    @merakitra Před rokem +30

    My favorite moment is when Ivar realized he was being filmed, he looked at the camera and smiled, O... that was so adorable!! Also when he was learning how to skip, that was beautiful, good dad. Ivar is growing up, he put a smile on my face, every time I see him. Thanks for the video.

  • @davidowen2396
    @davidowen2396 Před rokem +15

    Your films and cinematography have a wonderful, ethereal quality to them. So peaceful..truly living life in the moment! Thanks

  • @lindsayphelps1732
    @lindsayphelps1732 Před 26 dny

    Ivar is so smart. i love to hear him talk. he is going to have wonderful childhood memories.

  • @Jacqueline-ts1wd
    @Jacqueline-ts1wd Před rokem +5

    What a beautiful childhood Ivar has being out in nature all the time instead of being stuck to a screen all day.

  • @debbiecryan4882
    @debbiecryan4882 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for being good stewards to our Earth :)

  • @donnawebb6057
    @donnawebb6057 Před rokem +13

    Little Ivar is so adorable and
    Precious. You and your wife
    is doing a fantastic job raising
    him and God bless you and
    Your family.
    I can't say enough, how the
    environment is calming,
    tranquil and peaceful.

  • @jeffw.6821
    @jeffw.6821 Před rokem +3

    You are a sweet couple.
    Ivar has a good personality. Life will be easier for him.

  • @mariettehamel12358
    @mariettehamel12358 Před rokem +26

    Nice to helps the birds and extend the playground of Ivar... taking care of all living beings in your area is a blessing to see! thank you to share those lovely moments with us.

  • @gertrudegiesbrecht
    @gertrudegiesbrecht Před rokem

    I love seeing daddy doing so many things together with his daddy. Sure loved seeing daddy and !var skiing together and Ivar learning so quick. What a wonderful life style.

  • @GeorginaNZ011
    @GeorginaNZ011 Před rokem +14

    Thank you so much for another joyful watch! It is so heartwarming seeing Ivar living such a wholesome and delightfully simple childhood, something so many kids these days lack. Hoping you get lots more little bird visitors too!

  • @ginny3282
    @ginny3282 Před rokem

    This is your beautiful story on how much you care for the birds and their songs in our world ❤

  • @monikacarless_wordwitch
    @monikacarless_wordwitch Před rokem +16

    Tova, Mathias and Ivar, thank you for showing us the reindeer! Was so nice to see Ivar skiing, and the little bird houses. I hope you're enjoying spring, more sun and maybe even sprouting flowers in the greenhouse.

  • @anniehawkins6321
    @anniehawkins6321 Před rokem +1

    Outstanding video! I love them all! Ivar is so adorable! I love to hear him talk! He will be genius on off grid living! His parents are marvelous teachers! And role models!

  • @kimberlyshalaby1134
    @kimberlyshalaby1134 Před rokem +11

    The bird houses are really nice. Our fine feathered friends will have a place to call home.

  • @almutphilipp4057
    @almutphilipp4057 Před rokem +22

    Your wintertime is really long, but so nice! In Germany we have temperatures of summer in May ( sometimes). I like so much your creativity and engagenent for your child. Ivar is a wonderfull boy! It's so sweet, to hear / read bis comments. Climbing wall and birdshouses are amazing projects. Ivar learns to live with nature and his little life is full of joy and love of his parents! That impresses me !❤

  • @janwilson3458
    @janwilson3458 Před rokem +2

    To quote Ivar, “Oh what a forest”. Lovely.

  • @catherinejustcatherine1778

    Thank you for the lessons about birdhouses, and for sharing your endeavors to build an admirable environment together.

  • @tomas5376
    @tomas5376 Před rokem +17

    Iver is growing fast. I love that he asks so man questions! Won’t be long before he climbs to the top of the wall!

  • @rosemariemchugh988
    @rosemariemchugh988 Před rokem +16

    Brilliant parenting.

  • @lorettabray1483
    @lorettabray1483 Před rokem +1

    Watching Ivar skiing reminds me of my grandchildren learning to ski as well. Thank you for a wonderful video.

  • @mariegracesumbrado300
    @mariegracesumbrado300 Před rokem +7

    We appreciate ur english subtitle so that we can understand each other😊

  • @carolynspaulding6322
    @carolynspaulding6322 Před 3 měsíci

    I love how you are attentive to Ivar that is so important I still remember one time one of my little girls came up to me talking and then she looked up noticed I was not paying attention and walked away as soon as I saw her look, I called her back and told her I was sorry but I lost the moment she didn't want to repeat said, " it's OK Mama", I still cry when I think of that she is 52 now. That is so important.

  • @earthangel8730
    @earthangel8730 Před rokem

    I recently got Covid and was more or less miserable and useless for a week. The one thing I still managed to do was change the birdbath water daily, replenish hummingbird nectar and fill bird feeders with suet and black oil sunflower seeds. I lay in bed later, achey and feverish with my bedroom window opened for the fresh Spring air and comforting sounds of all the happy and well fed birds. I don't really need to feed the birds (except hummingbirds), because my 12 acre forested homestead is filled with long established, healthy conifers and deciduous trees and dead standing snags
    I call the giant standing snags BIRD CONDOS 😊.

  • @kathrynmoll86
    @kathrynmoll86 Před rokem +9

    Loved this episode! Beautiful job on building homes for the birds in your forest, planning a garden, enjoying nature's bounty, and spending time with adventurous Ivar! Thank you for bringing enjoyment and valuable lessons into our homes! 🙏🏼❤

  • @bibbiblocksberg2031
    @bibbiblocksberg2031 Před rokem +1

    _thanks for helping the birds!! I recently learned that the song of the birds also helps the plants to grow! Isn't that amazing! 🙂

  • @catherinelaffargue4418
    @catherinelaffargue4418 Před rokem +5

    You are simply amazing people. I’m sure it’s SO MUCH HARD WORK to have your kind of life…..thank you for sharing anything with the rest of the world.
    Merci du fond du cœur.

  • @suemcknight9051
    @suemcknight9051 Před rokem +7

    Love, love, love your birdhouses… funny that this year I am replacing my old semi rotting ones that need to be exchanged for new. I had to buy mine already made as I’m almost 80 & wouldn’t attempt making them myself any longer. I live in the northeast USA (state of Vermont), so I have a yard full of tufted titmouse birds, chickadees, nuthatches, wrens, robins, bluejays & cardinals. Was happy to hear that we share the same species & live so far from each other. Enjoyed every minute of this video. Each one you do enriches my life in one way or another. So, thank you…always.

  • @kathym6603
    @kathym6603 Před rokem +2

    What a little boy!! So purposeful and always participating.

  • @judyschepp8748
    @judyschepp8748 Před rokem +1

    LOOOOOVE THE birdhouses and Ivar is adorable!!!!

  • @oanasimon1983
    @oanasimon1983 Před rokem +1

    So nice you're into climbing Mathias. I've been climbing for 17 years and it has been so good to have that in my life. Exposing Ivar to that at such a young age is so beneficial. Looking forward to see you projects on the spray wall :).

  • @mariegracesumbrado300
    @mariegracesumbrado300 Před rokem +15

    How stunning ur place indeed😊 how adorable Ivar is😊 no skip ads 😊

  • @katherinemcdaniel8446
    @katherinemcdaniel8446 Před rokem +1

    Where I live we put up houses for the birds too, for the same reason as where you live - poor management of the forest. We don't have so many trees because I live in the desert, near our southern border with Mexico. We have the big saguaro cactus and this functions as our large trees. The woodpeckers make the holes, and other birds use them. It is kind of you to think of what the birds need too. Ivar has so much to say these days. He is at a wonderful age and I can see he has much imagination. It's good he lives there with you guys, in the woods. It's the best way to grow up.

  • @thegroundedstarseeds
    @thegroundedstarseeds Před rokem

    As always a magnificent video. I loved these precious moments when Ivar is with family with beautiful music and reindeer, skiing with the cat, etc. So nice Mathias and Ivar could spend more time with Finnish family and it was a real joy to be with beautiful Tova a little more for gardening. Your bird houses are gorgeous and you make many beings happy! Ivar... more adorable than ever. I loved learning more about bird habits. Woohoo climbing fun for Ivar!! Gratitude for this wonderful video 💙🙏😊

  • @elizabethj.davenport8947
    @elizabethj.davenport8947 Před rokem +11

    Tova (I’m sorry for misspelling) I’m really glad to see you in videos. You bring a lot of good information! May your plants grow tall and bountiful!

  • @MyHumbleNest
    @MyHumbleNest Před rokem +4

    A trail camera would be fun footage, but I understand the desire to leave it a pure atmosphere. Ivar has grown to such a fun young man!

  • @clareoclareo2626
    @clareoclareo2626 Před rokem +6

    That little snowdigger is so cute! My nephews would have loved that. Xxx

  • @davidwpinkston4226
    @davidwpinkston4226 Před rokem +3

    great photo of the nuthatch. i call them "upside down birds". two species (?) visit my bird feeder. the smaller variety seem to speak to me.

  • @soupedujour
    @soupedujour Před rokem +3

    The best thing about your video which appealed to me, was your love of the existence of small birds. I find that in my life one thing I never tire of is watching small birds, just living about, jumping branch to branch, so alive, and listening their songs. As you said their songs is one of the most important things in life, and that I truly believe. In light of this, I offer you a genuine serious reverence, and I thank you for sharing your kind and nature loving thoughts.

  • @pattypop52
    @pattypop52 Před rokem +6

    Sorry this is long, but, i can't help myself, you's are still the sweetest family i watch on yt. He melts my heart, every time. Loved the skiing times, reminded me of 20 yrs ago, when i skied with my 2 small grand children. Awww, when daddy gave him a pile of snow, for his machine to move !! too cute. Brilliant idea, making those bird houses with long boards & cut them into the many you wanted to build, genius . & the bottom like a flap so you can clean it out. 10 yrs, better late than never, i always say ! Tnx for the close up of screwing it to the tree, i was wondering how to do that. tfs xoxo

  • @MissouriPenny
    @MissouriPenny Před rokem +13

    Love love love your family and channel thankyou for sharing your life with us ❤️ 💜 ♥️ 💕 💖 😊😊❤❤

  • @johnblake3863
    @johnblake3863 Před rokem

    I can't believe Ivar has grown up so much. Such a cute guy!

  • @beatemichaelis6186
    @beatemichaelis6186 Před rokem +1

    Thank you very much for your wonderful videos ❣All the best for you three and the 🐾🐾🐾🐾 ....
    ❤❤❤

  • @sunshine8711
    @sunshine8711 Před rokem +3

    thanks for posting. love the bird houses... yes nuthatches.... aka nutties! I'm in Nevada...roadrunners, quail and beautiful singing birds! Enjoy!

  • @annemariemoormann996
    @annemariemoormann996 Před rokem +20

    Thank you! I can now understand about half of what Ivar is saying :) He has a wonderful imagination and an inquisitive mind. Is he still reading about Pettson and Findus? I love how you make winter fun up north. We tend to stay inside and wait for warmer weather, but of course that’s not an option when snow lingers until June. Fingers crossed for the seeds in the greenhouse! Wonderful drone shots, Matthias, as ever :)

  • @leroisolitaire
    @leroisolitaire Před rokem

    I love how you care about wildlife ! No it is not too late to put nests. Sometime birds find a nest to breed just two days before they start laying.
    I would love to see all the kinds of birds you have in Sweden. I can spend hours just watching them.
    Great video !

  • @gillbennett9784
    @gillbennett9784 Před rokem +8

    Another great film. Ivar is so entertaining. You are right the birds that climb are nuthatches.
    We have bats that roost in the roof of our house. It is a nursery roost so only mothers and babies and they are only there in the summer months arriving in March and leaving September/October depending on the weather. It is wonderful to go out at dusk and watch them flying out to feed. They can be quite noisy in the roof space above our bed with lots of chittering once the babies arrive but it has become one of the sounds of summer for us along with the birdsong. ❤

  • @frankscarborough1428
    @frankscarborough1428 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks for letting us see a little of you life. Ivar is such a curious and intelligent little one

  • @brendag2891
    @brendag2891 Před rokem +2

    I love your videos, they are wonderful. I laughed when Ivar did his Happy Dance for the climbing wall!

  • @TxgrlnGa
    @TxgrlnGa Před rokem +2

    We put sheet metal around the tree under the bird houses to keep the cats from getting into the houses

  • @Babbajune
    @Babbajune Před rokem +13

    Beautiful video! I am sure Ivar will master those skis very soon. ❤❤❤

  • @g.christelbecker6349
    @g.christelbecker6349 Před rokem +2

    Happy Spring to you, and many more!!! Thank you for sharing...........

  • @MimiPet
    @MimiPet Před rokem +2

    I am fashinated how do you educate your small son, you are good parents, he will grow as a good boy!!!

  • @MiddleEarthGirl75
    @MiddleEarthGirl75 Před rokem +5

    Thank you once again for inviting us into your special life. Love and blessings as usual from Eastern Ontario, Canada 🍁

  • @soupedujour
    @soupedujour Před rokem +2

    I love all you share…such healthy living …thank you.

  • @RiDankulous
    @RiDankulous Před rokem

    The birth of a new cross country star! 😄 You have a fan in hot Tucson, Arizona. ♨😎☀

  • @ChristianeDuchastenier
    @ChristianeDuchastenier Před rokem +2

    That's a wonderful time you are spending together with Yvar.He looks so cool and enjoys life quitely. For me, it's a time of great pleasure to see you.

  • @katherinemcdaniel8446
    @katherinemcdaniel8446 Před rokem +1

    Also, that is such a nice climbing wall. It will be enjoyed.

  • @emilymcclellan8988
    @emilymcclellan8988 Před rokem

    Love the videos of sweet Ivar! Blessings to his wonderful parents too!

  • @yasmindawoojee6831
    @yasmindawoojee6831 Před rokem

    I love your way of life - I got rid of all the magazines with advertising on it - I got rid of make up as well and doing everything DIY at home with Dad. I love living off the grid as well - and doing home made cooking.

  • @heidihill2361
    @heidihill2361 Před rokem +7

    It's always a pleasure to see a little bit of you world and how you live in it.

  • @pinklady184
    @pinklady184 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for the beautiful Video...💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝🌼🌷☀️🌼🌷☀️🌼🌷☀️😊

  • @heatherclayton-callaghan4270

    You have more pressing needs than bird house cameras ,would be my thoughts.
    I hope you are successful in growing your seeds into plants in the glasshouse.

  • @chrisj49300
    @chrisj49300 Před rokem

    Thank you for bringing breathing space to my day

  • @aliciathom9633
    @aliciathom9633 Před rokem

    Truly a magical play to live and for Ivar to grow up in! ❤️

  • @renatasikora3243
    @renatasikora3243 Před rokem

    I just want to let you know that although some of us - faithful watchers - do not participating in patreon we politely anp patiently watch all the adds which pop up during watching your films. I do hope that it helps, too.
    Thank you for great content of the channel 😊

  • @megfairbairn9876
    @megfairbairn9876 Před rokem +1

    Your videos are wonderful!❤Thank you!

  • @kristinastoltzfus6032
    @kristinastoltzfus6032 Před rokem +4

    Wonderful video as always. There is a bird in US called a Nuthatch. I enjoy watching all the different birds and listening to their songs. Best wishes on the plants in the greenhouse. It can be so frustrating hardening off the plants. I hope this works for you. 😊

  • @theresanoble1695
    @theresanoble1695 Před rokem +2

    Lovely video thank you! I think you could just keep the camera rolling and we would just love it! It is a privilege watching Ivar growing up in such a place. You are such good caring parents. I wish all children could know such a life away form the influence and noice of society!
    What a bonus seeing the herd of reindeer, thanks for sharing!
    Two good ideas I’m going to steal, getting a climbing wall for my Grandkids and building birdhouses with them! Excellent ideas.
    Ivar is very lucky, he will have a video diary of his life…that is amazing!❤
    Cheers from 🇨🇦 Canada Great Lakes

  • @kathyboudreau-henry1717
    @kathyboudreau-henry1717 Před rokem +1

    All gardening is an experiment! I never know what my seedlings will do. I hope the greenhouse will help.

  • @francaperagine1295
    @francaperagine1295 Před rokem +3

    Siete fantastici vi adoro. Il vostro bimbo è stupendo. Che belli esempi di vita che date. Vera vita ❤❤❤

  • @ninasperry833
    @ninasperry833 Před rokem +5

    Such a great video! Many blessings to you all! Peace

  • @juneturner7964
    @juneturner7964 Před rokem

    I always love the drone shots through the trees in all the different seasons.

  • @dixieanderson2276
    @dixieanderson2276 Před rokem +2

    As I watch this, we have a mockingbird singing at 1 am! Awesome work for the birds, wonderful parenting skills, and such an
    adorable, smart boy! Thank you for sharing your lives with us.

  • @giuliapariz
    @giuliapariz Před rokem

    the little boy is always so cute. love watching this channel

  • @karenanderson9740
    @karenanderson9740 Před rokem +3

    Nice to see some of your spring time work and fun. Thank you so much for translating what Ivar is saying!! He is talking so much now and I love how he puts his thoughts together. Seeing his imagination in pretend play is a real gift!

  • @tonyblast4592
    @tonyblast4592 Před rokem

    Seeing all that snow in May really brings home how short your growing seasons is. In the South of France in April everything is in full bloom and we start to harvest full baskets of strawberries. Now at the end of May it's almost time for the first batch of hay making.

  • @isharalove2966
    @isharalove2966 Před rokem +1

    I love hearing Ivar's musings on life! The Little Philosopher. ❤

  • @emmanuellebassi7356
    @emmanuellebassi7356 Před rokem

    Ooh I love the ideas so so much! Ivar is growing up soo fast but he is so beautiful! Hope for you that garden will be growing up too! Hope to see you soon, take care of your beautiful family! 🤗😍

  • @marybethterhaar4200
    @marybethterhaar4200 Před rokem

    Very clever. So fun to watch Ivar growing. Love your stories ❤

  • @silvanatamburiel8213
    @silvanatamburiel8213 Před rokem

    thanks mattias, always so relaxing to watch your videos.
    Hello Tuva, hello ivar,
    Bye from north india, from an italian

  • @juliettbarger8622
    @juliettbarger8622 Před rokem +4

    Ivar is so adorable and growing up so fast. I remember when he was born. Such a lovely wholesome family.

  • @carolienhunfeld6788
    @carolienhunfeld6788 Před rokem

    again, a good one ! with "the privethy of birds and Ivar "does one grow when leading the way ?" wonderful.

  • @davidwear1461
    @davidwear1461 Před rokem

    This gives me an idea for my grandson! You guys are exceptional parents❤

  • @annamariavonschalien9346
    @annamariavonschalien9346 Před rokem +17

    Så härligt att få följa ert harmoniska liv och vilken njutbar picknick ni hade ❤❤❤

  • @ceciliavondehn4402
    @ceciliavondehn4402 Před rokem

    A wonderful video of news and views in your forest world ! Thank you from a Canadian fan.

  • @louisetaylor3653
    @louisetaylor3653 Před rokem +1

    I always look forward to your next video.
    Thank you! And I love watching Ivar grow up.
    He’s such a lucky beautiful little boy.
    You are a lovely little family!!!

  • @angelheart6457
    @angelheart6457 Před rokem

    I love your videos and the way you all embrace the nature. One thought I would like to share about the birds, is that besides the forestry destroying the natural habitats, the birds also have prey that they need to be protected from, which again is natural and the way of life. But your cats are also hunting them and giving them more reason to flee. Here in Australia, it is becoming more important to make laws for people to keep their domestic cats inside, so we can protect our wildlife. The domestic cats kill many small animals and sadly have been the reason some of our native animals are endangered. I am not suggesting that you keep your cats inside, as they are very used to being outside. But be wary of their hunting habits maybe.
    Thank you for sharing your wonderful life with us.

  • @anitanagahisa3049
    @anitanagahisa3049 Před rokem +1

    Ivar has a good imagination. He is learning about nature and animals too.

  • @JL_10acres
    @JL_10acres Před rokem

    I also made birdhouses in my pasture this spring for tree swallows. They are fun because they fly around animals catching the flies that come out of the grass as they walk around. I didn’t think I would have any since it is my first year with birdhouses but they did come and nest! I hope you have as good of luck!

  • @corrievanhalm9154
    @corrievanhalm9154 Před rokem +4

    What a lovely video yet again. We got to see such a variety of aspects of your life, some of which I recognised and identified with. To see you Tova relish your alone time. I remember it well. What a joy to not have to think about anybody but yourself. Even for just a short while. And then the fulness and liveliness of the boys' return and the birdhouse project. I could see how satisfying it was for you both to finally have done it. I hope the birds will come again and again. The climbing wall, also a fun experiment. So good to see you as a parent Mathias. Your deep thoughtfulness. I am so impressed with both of you as parents. Ivar is a gorgeous little boy. I do not for a moment think you situation and life is perfect. That is just not possible, as I well know. But, I can see, by looking at you, how you experience moments so beautiful that, rather than the unobtainable idea of perfection, must feel like the very best of life. I wish you well and send you gratitude for letting us enjoy with you. Love from The Netherlands

  • @Daytona2
    @Daytona2 Před rokem

    Lovely to see you relaxing and enjoying the environment, Mathias & Tova. The climbing wall is a great idea. It would be mad and difficult to climb, but how about extending it up via an overhang around the eaves of the roof ?
    Bat box is good ...because it is a box. Bat roost is the more common term/description (roost = a place where winged animals sleep - birds, bats etc)