Smash Player Tries to Guess How Good Street Fighter Characters Are ft.
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Today we're doing a fun exercise - I got a professional Smash player and commentator to try building an Ultra Street Fighter 4 tier list! Will he be able to guess how strong USF4 characters like Chun Li, Elena, El Fuerte, and Dee Jay are?? Let's find out!
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I watched the Elena set after we did this and I'm so sorry you guys had to deal with that
HEALING!
She was broke af when she came out. Now she's just very strong. Not top 5 but def top 7-8. Evil ryu/Akuma/Yun/Seth/cammy/decapre/poison (last 3 are arguable depending on who you talk to) are just so much better.
She was mid tier in SF 3 so they made her a bit better in SF 4 but the Ultra system made her sort of broken
I feel like you guys had to deal with MK in brawl worse than Elena at the end of USF4's lifespan. I'm sorry you had to deal with that
I remember that Top 8 actually being pretty hype. But, it had more to do with knowing and liking the players who made top 8. So, even if Elena matches can be slow they can also be very tense. Especially in EVO top 8. GF was kind of lacking that year, but I remember the rest of top 8 (or at least top 4) was pretty sweet.
Also, I remembered people hating Rolento WAY more back then. The Infiltration vs Gamerbee set (Loser's semi-finals or Loser's finals?), had Infiltration hover over Rolento during a character change and people booed. I believe he said it made him not choose Rolento. But, it was still funny and hype cause after hovering over Rolento the camera cut to Infil laughing and Gamerbee shaking his head at him.
"Smash players LOVE tier lists"
Ok, now I see why he invited CONEY
SkeletonPls
He has so many tiers to make
"OOOHH We have this in our game. his name is SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" had me rolling💀
i never thought about that before but fuerte and ssb Sonic do play really similar
15:59 One of my favorite quotes from Coney to date lol
Ult Sonic certainly ran so USFIV El Fuerte could trip.
The collab I didn’t know I wanted, but am very glad to see.
Coney’s reaction to Elena’s “healing” is how everyone feels whenever she lands it
JESUS
I’ve been watching a Hearthstone series following this style where Runeterra players guess how good Hearthstone cards are - this is a fantastic idea!! Looking forward to more videos following this format.
yup I love those videos as well :) shoutouts to @rarran
Don't think it's the same guys, but I saw a series where a yugioh player tries to guess how good MtG cards are
@@GeebusCrust pretty sure that was DuelLogs
@@jmcrofts hey, when you said, "yeah elena is crack". What does that mean? You think ur slang words are cool or practical but they are quite the opposite.
@@shen-long9082 www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked
Found out about jmcrofts after Coney talked to him on stream and now I'm a sub despite not playing any fighting games. jmcrofts videos are just that good
Well hey, it's never to late to try them!
I'd say the best videos to watch, if you're not into fighting games, are his combo trial videos, tournament match analysis videos, and his top "blank" videos. Really the videos where he just talks and goes into detail about the subject.
He also does some trivia FGC game shows.
Hey C_Splash, when the bald youtuber was talking about elena & that she's top tier, he also said "yeah elena is crack". Can you plz tell me what does that mean??? This youtuber thinks his slang words are cool or practical but it's quite the opposite.
@@shen-long9082 Damn bro you gonna really shade JMCrofts because he's bald? Lmao 💀
@@shen-long9082 "Cracked" means "on crack", AKA something is supercharged like someone who's on crack cocaine
You should do it the other way around, you guess a smash bros teir list. Maybe for a game like smash 4 bc it’s teir list isn’t well know (well bayo and cloud are known) but the rest of its tier list is unique.
I think any Smash game would be interesting. I don't think crofts has played much Smash at all of any kind. Ultimate is a huge game and there's no way Crofts would know everything.
@@ultimatederp5069 I know Croft didn’t play much smash ultimate but your right any smash game would be cool although he should get like esam or marss (no offence coney) to explain the character or watch a tournament set of the character then guess where they place.
Esam is the last person Id get for giving character breakdowns
@@danielf1833 why, he’s a pro player and if not who would you recommend
@@Lop_123 i know im a month late but esam is known for having... interesting... takes. I'd pick Marss, he knows a lot but he's also pretty funny
Now I need to see this in reverse, jmcrofts doing a Smash Tier List
This video is the definition of “never in my life have I needed something so much and didn’t know until I received it 😏”
this is a good idea and very fun. another version could be that you show online/tournament highlights from some of the best players with the character and have someone guess based off that.
i like how you bring out the teeth tier list for the intro there, shit goes crazy.
This is a really sick concept and I would love to see more of it, seeing Coney look at MvC or P4AU would be dope
Just started the video. How is Coney only gonna work with 5 teirs?!
Love this video concept so much, would literally pay money for like a 4 hr stream where you do the entire cast. UMVC3 would be a great other one to do, mostly because I feel like a non-player would think absolutely every character is broken.
Id be down to see you try to rank smash characters with coney, this was way too entertaining and i need more
This is such good content! You did a great job giving Coney enough info to make educated guesses, while letting him figure things out on his own. Really informative!
(I've followed you intermittently since seeing you post on the SA games forum ages ago. It's crazy to see how you've blown up!)
That was great. I feel like I learned a bunch about sf4 and it was a fun watch. Great content!
Holy shit, is this a thing for Fighting Games?
I love watching these kinds of videos for CCGs, I'd be DOWN for a lot more of these
God I can't wait to see what Coney says
Edit: no freaking way he did Fuerte like that LMAO
I wanna see you guys go over Xrd so I can see his reactions to Elphelt and Johnny.
This is so great and fun!!! Ty so much for including us smashers in the convo
It takes a lot of imagination to come up with a fun video like this! Keep it up :)
This was pure awesomness, I'd definitely love to see more.
I would love to see more of this kind of content it was super interesting to watch.
I would LOVE to see the other side of this where you guess a smash tier list
Can we PLEASE get the inverse of this I would love to see Jmcrofts try to judge how good smash characters are while Coney has the answers.
This was a great idea, loved the video. Gotta bring Rarran for the next one
I like this concept mate! you should deff keep doing similar stuff! =D
I would love to see the inverse, Coney shows you smash characters and you try to rank them. Would make for some fun content
You should do more videos like this. I love this concept
Now I want to see coney test jmcrofts on smash ultimate tierlists
Now do this with various content creators and rank them in a tier list according to their tier list abilities
I’d love something like this for Guilty Gear XX. They kinda all sound god tier out of context which makes trying to rank them weird
I mained Dee Jay in USF4 (got to B Rank) and between him being a charge character and having that crouch medium 1 frame link, I did consider even right to if not worse than Dan. Don't get me wrong, DJ had a lot of cool stuff (Super cancels into Ultra 1 for high damage or insane chip, machine gun upper into dash/walk Ultra 2) but his core gameplay was just not as good as other characters. I love that character though and would love to see him make a strong return.
You spoke it into existance. We need you ranking smash characters
We need CONEY to get jmcrofts to do a smash tier list now
I loved this! I play smash and played FGs a long time ago, this is some fun content.
I’d love to see this in the reverse where jmcrofts tries to guess where characters are on the tier list in smash games
Two amazing content creators
After watching the end of the video, I will say that the reverse of this with you doing a smash tier list and coney hosting would be very entertaining.
Really cool content guys - congrats!
Excellent and interesting content as always 😁
I NEED to see you do the Ultimate tier list haha. Even Ultimate players can't agree on who's in what tier.
Awesome collab, very funny and entertaining.
If you do this sort of video again in the future, you should leave characters placed on the tier list wherever the guest thinks they should go so that we can see the tier list they have come up with at the end.
More of this please! Id love to see Coney look at Marvel vs Capcom
Honestly do this for more games other than Street Fighter this was so fun to watch
Love this idea, super fun video concept
What a great collab, two GOATS
Funny that Coney didn't say "He's good but I think it's somewhere between" and then makes 20 tiers between Middle and Low all with very specific titles like "Worse than Guile LOL" and "Okay for casuals but not good by any other means"
Love how you're playing the SF6 Ryu theme
The collab I never knew I needed
This is a very fun format, would love to see this done with other games.
This is a collab I didn’t know I needed
Considering how close Coney got with this tier list, I bet would probably enjoy playing other fighters
This was really fun to watch
Been waiting for this vid ever since I saw coney do this live
didn't know i needed this thanks 😂
Would love to see the reverse of Coney making you guess Smash characters
Two dope content creator I'm glad to see collab
Sick collab
Pleasantly surprised with this collab
We need more of these
Coney on the channel? Such a dub
First Jwong and now Coney? JM the crossover god
I think we NEED this video in vice versa
During the intro when you mentioned the vod I immediately head over to twitch
Please do more of these!
bro called T Hawk Mexican 🤣😭😭
Such a fun collab!
Coney and Uncle are a hoot! More please!
very good quality video. much love
This was a good watch.
Yooooo my current two favorite fighting game content creators.
Jm finally got ludwig on no way dude
This is a cool video! You should try and rank brawl/smash 4 characters :)
Crossover bigger than Street Fighter and Tekken: JMxConey
Coney invading traditional FGC is what I need
Now you have to make a tier list for smash
“Smash players love tier lists… and fighting game players love tier lists too!” Daaaayum shots fired, lol.
Tier lists. And Coney. I love a good garbage fire in the morning.
Ayyy what a great collab
omg what a crossover how awesome I love JMConey
Dj knee can hits meaty af..wow the active frames are crazy
now i want to see coney quiz jm on smash 4
UM ACTUALLY…Deejay can combo into ultra 1 ……..from cancelling out of super. Really hoped it would come up because it’s so unique.
Honestly it's pretty funny that both the two worst characters in the game can cancel a super into ultra
You should definitely do this but the other way around for brawl
Second part plz. Very good video
Of course the example tier list of Coney’s was the Teeth Tier List
this is the crossover of the century
Wish you did all the characters. I'd like to see you break down characters like viper, Abel, makoto, gen, decapre etc for him and see what he says
It’s true between Coney’s mentally unstable tiers and Leffen’s old ultimate tier lists for best dressed nothing will ever satisfy the craving for more tier lists
Would be great to see you doing one for Smash and see how you do.
It's cool when you coop with other creators/gamers...your personality suits working with others and building. Imo at least
I would love to see this the other way around, even if JM doesn't know anything about Smash. Just do it off of what Coney says like reverse of this video
Ngl I mained DJ in usf4 and I loved playing as him. Hope he gets justice in sf6 and he will be higher in the tiers there
Your wish was granted
I can already picture Coney doing the reverse. So this is little Mac, here are the pros: tied with Zero Suit Samus he had the fastest jab in the game at frame 1, all off his smash attacks have super armor, his run speed and ground moves are really good, and if he takes or deals enough damage he gets a unblockable move that kills stupidly early. His main weakness is that his aerial moves aren’t that good.
To describe Elena to a smash player, just say Wii Fit Trainer
What's the song that played during T Hawk's segment?