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This is getting dangerous. As I watch more of Ray's videos, my Amazon wish list for tools grows.
That brake pad spreader he uses is a must buy if you work on more than one car .
Hose clamp pliers are a must. You can spend 5 minutes struggling with the clamps using slip joint pliers, or 30 seconds with locking hose clamp pliers.
I’ve seen a couple different tools he uses that I wish he would add to his tool list. The air tool attachment Ray used today to clean off the gasket material would be handy to have.
lmao i know what you mean.
Yeah, I have gotten a couple tools also. LOL
Hi Ray - I think your mechanical skills are very impressive. What’s even more impressive to me is at the same time you’re being an excellent mechanic, you’re also an excellent videographer! You are great at writing, acting, producing, directing, lighting, running the video cameras and especially editing. Being good at all those things is what makes the difference between producing just a show, or producing a GREAT show like yours. Those things are not easy to do well even by themselves and they are much harder while doing the mechanical jobs at the same time like you are. It’s all very impressive to watch! I’d be surprised if you’re not spending more time producing each video from beginning to end, than it takes to do the actual mechanical jobs contained in each video. I for one want you to know that I appreciate you doing what it takes to give us such a quality product to watch, while you’re in front of the camera and while you’re behind it. Your mechanical as well as your video production skills are what keep me coming back for more. Thank you!
nice compliment. people underestimate how hard it is to do almost anything like this and also record at the same time.
@@belowzeros Totally agree 👍
This commenter comments just as good as this mechanic mechanics.
I would love to see what Ray could do with a Insta360 camera. That would be awesome.
And his stunt work (catching gravity-actuated parts, performing dangerous work in a safe manner) and his comedy writing is award winning. Ray for the Oscar!
Yep and most important of all, for me at least, he's an incredibly likeable guy and relaxing to listen to. I can just put on his videos and chill out, even though I'm not even that into cars/maintainance.
Well, so far Rainman, in addition to everything else I've learned from watching your channel, now I've learned how to change a thermostat and a water pump. You have cost me more money than my ex-wife but, learning all of this has brought me more happiness than she ever did.
i know that i decided to spend money on tools instead of the labor and so i do my own work these days. though it was VERY expensive at first, it has paid off greatly!
@@DanielTekmyster Short term pain, long term gain!
Nice fix once again Rainman. Enjoy your videos.
Q+++¹
Former wives tend to do that 😜😜
Hi Ray, I am an elderly senior that work on my own cars 55 years ago from complete exhaust in the side walk, we use to rebuild everything to save money, now labor is expensive that is better to put new EOM parts. I enjoyed watching and learning new cars from you, now a days. I am disappointed that there still a lot of ripoff dealer and mechanics this days. I am so happy that you are honest that customer should appreciate.
I think you're biased because he has the same name. j/k
Yes sorry to say yeah there are rip off dealers and mechanics but hey fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me so I never went back a second time I hate to be that way but they put themselves in that spot and I would have given them a lot of work but they can't do it right be honest about it I don't need the aggravation have a good day
Independent shop owner and tech chiming in , I have had multiple 4.7 Rams in my shop that plug the center of the radiator. All appears normal until you check them w a infrared scan.
Just in case the overheat continues, enjoy your content.
Excellent bit of info! Thank you
Can confirm, as a former Dodge dealership service advisor, had several of those show up in my time there
I literally lol'd. A couple quarts IS half a gallon. That made my day! 😁 I've been teaching my 16yo daughter what I know about our cars (which is little in the grand scheme of things). I told her that if she can drive, she has to learn this stuff because our cars are super old. I don't want her blowing up our transmissions or engines because she didn't know to stop and check the fluids or just use common sense. Lol
More parents like you are needed. Its not just about your current cars, but knowing these things will help her in life down the road too. I could not drive until I could change the oil, change a tire, check and replace all fluids (brake, power steering, coolant, trans, etc.), and change a headlight/tail light bulb. I think schools should add basic maintenance to Drivers Ed courses because so many parents don't know these things to be able to teach their children.
@@justinkraynie6435 I agree! I never took drivers ed. I started driving at 12 (I was mature for my age; and only drove on private property). But I learned to change a tire, change the oil, replace bulbs, check all fluids (I had to tell my hubby that you can only check trans fluid while the car is running), check tire pressure and how to add air, replace the serpentine belt, check for wear on the tires, check and splice wires under the hood (I went through a LOT of electrical tape on my first car), how to change a headlight switch (the box thing under the dash, not the knob), how to properly use a jack, battery maintenance and testing, etc. I love learning though, so that may have had something to do with it. As I've gotten older, I've learned how to change a bunch of parts on different cars (because we buy beaters, but they're cheaper and I don't have a car payment). Water pumps, alternators, fuel pump and filters, power steering pump, engine rebuild of a '79 MG Midget; lots of things. I would love to learn more. My biggest issue is my arm strength. I just don't have it to break lugnuts and oil filters loose. Lol
@@justinkraynie6435 Sadly, my sister's son (I help her sometimes to raise up this young gentelman, not often enough I am afraid) who has just turned 18 and got a car from me - which is one year older than he is - LOL - does not even bother to learn how to fill the car up... He literally called me the other day asking for help with filling up the gasoline... I tried to explain him how to use this older car properly - sadly - he is literally not intersted... The next car - which he will need very soon as it looks judging by his lack of any maintenance and care - will for sure not be donated by me.
Or 2 liters for Australians and Canada lol
Taught my daughter to drive on a 5.0l mustang GT, Saleen...racing clutch, etc. GOOD driver, smooth shifter..... :)
Why do people criticise your work just enjoy what this man is doing it’s for entertainment not to have a dig at him 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👍
Anybody who puts either their workmanship or their product before the public invites comments or evaluation on what they have done. It's human nature!! Ray himself has often critiqued the work of other unknown technicians who've had their hands and their tools on what he's working on at the moment. Sometimes he's been kind and sometimes he hasn't... just like some of us have been with him! 😏
Those that can't do run their mouths hey have a good day
Many, many years ago a aviation mechanical engineer friend of mine explained that those " constant pressure" spring hose clamps should never be replaced with wormgear screw clamps. You did the right thing tossing that screw clamp and reusing the spring clamp. The reasoning is that the wormgear screw clamp is totally unforgiving and in this application as the hose and fitting temperature cycle the hose will deform and swell up through the screw clamp. Then when it cools it becomes just a bit looser. Do this a couple of times a day and you end up with a coolant leak. The constant pressure spring complies with the size changes of heating and cooling while maintaining constant clamping force. I seem to be hooked on your videos! Great work!
Every day is a school day. Thanks for that, Jim! Greetings from the Australian bush
That’s what I was taught , too!!
You are absolutely correct. I am a heavy truck mechanic. The spring clamps that come installed on a vehicle should be used when possible.
Most of the hoses on our large trucks are silicon and do not seal properly with the typical worm type clap. However, there are worm style clamps specifically designed for silicon hose and they work quite well. Sometimes we have to splice into a hose when adding something, The silicon hose clamps are a must. Otherwise we wind up with a leak in no time.
That makes perfect sense but I never thought of that before when buying extra clamps to have on hand.
Hello Ray
Just a nod from your cold Canadian neighbor! Love watching and I've learned alot. I love the little nods to the freedom convoy taking place in Ottawa. Like the Canadian flag on a past episode and the non compliance comment on this video. It gave me a smile. Thanks again and I'll keep on watching and liking.
Stronger together 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧
As a Canadian I must say, I loved your non compliant clamp being Canadian funny. Gave me a good chuckle. We are typically a polite even keeled bunch. However when pushed to the brink it can get ugly. Even without a hockey puck. 🤣🤣🤣
That shot of the dirt in slow mo was impressive. I love you take the time to deal with the Reee comments and explain things. Your even temperament is appreciated as well. We used to change pump, thermostat and hoses in the old days cause if you didn’t the next thing down the line always goes when your done.
I'm a landscaper I watch because my dad was a mechanic and he passed away from cancer and also my 3-year-old son wants to be a mechanic and he watches the videos with me another reason I like that your videos are family friendly
first time ever changing rad hose way back circa '74, my dad offered to help, me; 2 clamps refill it "I got this" and when i finished he came out to check and noticed the spring was now not in the hose, upon asking me i had no idea so he cranked it and gave a good rev and hose closed --- drain, put back the spring hahaha
Up here in the crust belt, it's a good idea to wire brush all the farsteners before reinstalling them. They will always have some sort of schmoo on them. Clean bolts get threaded in easier, and more accurate torque readings as well. Something I learned as a young laddie from the old school guys.
👍👍, your generation has it made with all of the newer tools, back in the day we didn’t have them, but then again the vehicles were easer to work on, less junk in the way. Don’t forget to have yourself a great day, same as us.
And, you could crawl in and hug that engine. Plenty room to work with old tools.
I hope the the water pump cures the issue. Both the 4.7 and 5.7 are know to have head gaskets issues after the engine gets overheated. Since this wasn’t my job I won’t tell you that maybe the cooling system should be tested for compression gases
Everytime you hit that pulley a tech enters retirement. Plus I think "ding fries are done!" Great content as always.
Good thing you didn't have an old boxer working there you might have come out of the corner swinging I wouldn't want to see any kind of violence happen in the shop but see the old man start dancing around it might be fun as long as you don't hurt nobody hey have a good day
Doing things one-handed following shoulder surgery is VERY reminiscent of watching you work with one hand serving as a camera mount. You’ve inspired me to (carefully) work on my car during recovery. Thanks! Only problem is I can only use my non-dominant hand. I’ll pay more attention and see if you ever switch it up between hands.
That's one of the reasons I had to retire I went left-handed for the last year my working career and when I retired because I didn't want to go out on social security disability I told my boss I can retire you can carry me out of here or I can go for workman's comp I retired didn't collect anything say goodbye got my pension now I'm enjoying my my life hey have a good day
Water Pump bolts on my 5.7 Hemi have 5 different types, best is to remove and place in a piece of cardboard in the pattern as you remove them. Or if you have the NEW water pump, slip it in the corresponding hole, then switch them all back to old water pump after removal
Man changing a water pump on that truck looks so easy I just changed my water pump on my 95 Nissan sentra and there is no room to work in there it was a pain in the butt
Love the videos. Reminds me of my military days wrenching with the radio cranked in the background. If it hauled asses or cargo I worked on it.
Ray you make fixing cars look so easy. Great videos.
The 4.7l and 5.7l Dodge of that vintage, you don't ever want to overheat those. The valve seats will drop out at a later date and bounce around in the cylinder. I have caught a few 4.7l where they partially drop and cause a dead cylinder. I used to buy those in the Jeep Cherokee, Durango, and Charger format for pennies on the dollar. Bought a few 6-8 year old Jeeps for under $1000.
I got my 04 Grand for $500 because of this. 124,000 they picked up something on the freeway, punctured the radiator and overheated it bad. It shortly dropped a seat, intake #1. It was a partial drop, it only dinged the piston top slightly. Got a set of heads from the pick a part, had them completely rebuilt (will not use the junk remans offered, not falling for that trick again) cost $900. Did some other things and now have a mint Limited loaded GC for under $2500.
@@charliedee9276 Nice score!
Had that happen on a Ford 1.9L, wound up ruining a piston that had to be replaced, bit of a nightmare job for a driveway mechanic LOL. Same situation though, Rad., got old and cloggy, always running close to hot, should have replaced it well before.
@@charliedee9276 people don't understand this when they are trying to push EVs down our throat. I haven't paid over $800 for any of my vehicles over the past couple decades. I always buy something with a failed engine. Many of the Chevy vans I bought only had a bad intake gasket that dumped coolant in the oil. Their mechanics usually diagnosed them as a cracked head or blown head gasket. I get lucky sometimes and there's no damage to the rotating mass. In about an hour and half I'd have a great running van for $800. (That is what the last one cost overall). However I've got two that has damaged rotating mass that I've got to pull out soon and rebuild. Sometimes people keep driving them with coolant in the oil. You can guess what happens.
@@Bryan-Hensley Yup. Most people have lost the ability to work on their own cars/trucks. They are at the mercy of a shop to fix it for them. When this stuff gets older and breaks, its to costly to have the shop repair it so the stuff gets sold off.
Back 30 years ago, people in my neighborhood would be outside working on their cars. Brake job, suspension work, exc. Now nothing.
"It's non-compliance is strong -Must be Canadian" THANK-YOU for the shout out, southern Freedom-loving brother :) You made me chuckle
You read my mind when you addressed the question about the hose clamps and not reaching straight for your hose clamp pliers. Sign of a good teacher.
I work for myself, A Remodeling contractor I could go all over the place on this subject. There are what I call Grey areas, I try to cover all the dynamics of the job I even might cover small details without payment but if it happens to be more involved I do a change order and then there are them so-called little requests during the project by the customer that can get more involved then they imagine and feel it shouldn't be charged for,, so what do you do right.
I've learned there is a lot of giving and take on both ends. It's always those little details that make or break a finished project and yes the customer will notice them if left unattended, so cover the job and they will call on you again for a new one or recommend you to their friends.
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Hey Ray, awesome mechanic work values you have, the ding noise on the pulley reminded me of my days in the 1960s working in gas stations, ⛽️ the rubber hose in the driveway dinging the big bell ! Memories came flooding back.
You mean like a service station where when you pulled in they actually put gas in your car and check the fluids for you now that would help a lot of people nowadays but no garages that I know of service stations like no gas stations I should say do that anymore it would help a lot a little old ladies I know my mother-in-law killed an old Ford that way because nobody checked the oil she didn't think about it and the car blew up have a good day
Mr. Ray... That "ding" of the water pump pulley takes me back to the "ding ding" when you pulled up and ran over the rubber hose that rang the attendant bell of gas stations... way back when.
Try some silicone spray on the clamps & outside of the hoses. Helps stubborn clamps to make some moves more easierest. 😎 Thanks for the great videos!
Just replaced my first heater control unit (on a 25 year old truck), will remember this advice for next time. Do you have a thought as to why spring hose clamps are better than geared ones?
@@sk1dr0w You never need to retighten them.
Spring clamps allow the tiny bit of expansion and contraction of the water hoses as the rubber heats up / cools down. (ambient and water temps, etc) Screw types have to clamp it down hard to get a good seal. After a while, they bite/cut into the hose somewhat. Screw types have to be refitted exactly in it's previous position to not leak, every time the hose is removed & reinstalled.
I just picked up the Milwaukee 1/2" Drive M12 Fuel Right Angle Impact (2565) and the Milwaukee M12 3/8" Drive Electric Ratchet (2557) and I love them both. I don't know how I got by all those years without them!
Up to 2008 model , the Vehicle was still known as a Dodge Ram. I did the same job myself, in my driveway shorty after I bought a used truck with a loose water pump, (dealer knocked off $2000.00) not a hard project to do. I also did brakes and rotors all the way around on the same truck and replaced fan clutch . Did it without power tools, and prior to invention of GoPro cameras.
I guess it was a good thing we didnt have GoPros back then, otherwise we'd have to suffer twice. Love from TN (since 1714)
I know nothing about the mechanics of autos, but I have learned a great deal watching your videos.
I would love to see different types of videos linked up to the type of repair. I don't think CZcams has the capability yet, but when I need advice on repairing, replacing or just what to look for to nail what needs fixing, Rainman's videos have never failed to cover the topic required. Pity there are not more people like him in other diy type videos. There are quite a few, but so far, I have found Rainman's ones the easiest to understand in situations where I have very limited experiences. Thanks man, keep doing what you are doing.
Hi Ray, I am into your videos. I retired a year ago from working as a machinist and it's fun watching you.
Also "gooderrer and bettererrer" are words we use at home. We had a good laugh over that. We have also used "beautamous" for years.
I have a Dakota with the 4.7 motor- I recently had to change a sticking thermostat and when I went to NAPA they said it was 60.00. The guy must have seen the look on my face because he quickly said "It comes with a new housing". I asked if I could get it without the housing and he said "Yeah- that one is 15.00"
I saw that plastic housing and thought to myself "I'm glad Ford ain't the only one dumb enough to use a plastic housing".
I've had 3 different Ford engines (2 of those 3 were V6) come to me with a cracked housing. I'm not even a damn mechanic.
@@morgfarm1 The housings have a metal insert which prevents someone from breaking it when tightening the bolts, but the plastic gets brittle with heat and if a guy grabs the hose and tries to twist it off, it will break the housing. On those things you have to use a pick to break the hose loose first so it slides off easily.
Your tool selection for close and distant difficulties is a must in keeping one's sanity in your well documented endeavors. That and how you've learned to manipulate them to your needs is impressive
@Rainman Ray's Repairs 15:30 Youre absolutely right to use the spring type clamp. Those normal hoseclamps are not recommened on cooling hoses, because they tend to get lose over time because of heat cycling. KTM recently had issues with these, as they used this type of clamp. Result: Almost every new 790/890 duke developed a small coolant leak (coolant dripping onto the header), which can be solved by retightening the clamp.
24:30 You can observe this by looking at the factory pen marking on the upper radiator hose. Its not in line anymore, because the spring clamp tightened up over time.
Awesome job as always Ray!
That happened to me on a radiator hose clamp came loose
Hi Ray Your my new favourite car repair channel while ETG is on hiatus. A little squirt of silicon spray will stop you having to fight sliding those hoses and clamps around. Great video 👍
15:15 And spring clamps compensate for hot/cold cycling, i.e. they move slightly. Worm clamps won't.
This! However there are also constant torque worm clamps that do the same thing. Just more expensive.
Yeah. I discovered how hard it is the find the right size and to get off. I bought the special tool that has a spring cable and I haven't had any trouble getting them off and on. Easy peasy. I heard that it's really important to match the exact spot the spring clamp was at when reinstalling; that they can leak otherwise. I wouldn't be inclined to replace a worm clamp with a spring clamp on a used hose, rather get a new hose for the spring clamp. I just work on our stuff though, I get that mechanics are limited by customer considerations.
I always put a small amount of Transmission fluid in my air tools before hooking up the lines, it cleans and lubricates flawlessly. I used the same Ingersol Titanium forever...
Used atf for years. Cheaper than tool truck air tool oil
@@marktiitto7616 yeah and air tool oil doesn't clean as good. I've used ATF after air tool oil and it'll have grease and miscellaneous air tank debris "I'm guessing carbon deposits from the compressor" will spray out the vent, I've flooded old tools with it and brought older tools back to life. Air tool oil is for dummies. It would take some serious proof to change my mind.
What a great way to perform a complete coolant change! Superb video Ray and thanks again!
Ur attention to detail is great too. U seem to go above and beyond and not like most shops that lie and rip ppl off ..I applaud you
Very fortuitous for me as I'm about to start replacing the original 20 year old water pump on my Mercedes C240. So, between this video, which is more complete than some C240 specific CZcams videos, I'm confident that I will win.
I agree with you about the spring clamps being better than the screw type. They can be a pain if you don't have the proper tools for them. Besides the noise, I also heard a little Pink Floyd in the background.
Once had a K Car in for overheating. It had been everywhere around and all parts replaced multiple times. It would leave fine then overheat a day later. Being in Detroit, with some connections the car ended up back at Chrysler where the block ended up being cut in half to look for problem. They found a quarter size die blank in the water jacket. it would bounce ito a place where circulation would be choked off.
Cool tale of OE woe(pun intended) Hot Rod msg article decades ago on Mopar Hi Po 273 V8 found 7 Hi Po pistons , 1 lo comp piston from the factory. No doubt it caused a shaky idle.
I would have Ray working on my vehicle any day of the year he takes pride in his work good job keep it up
Quick tip with those Dodge hose clamps, use "Vise grips". They tend to have almost no space to slip over the hose when installed over a "snout". That way you can reduce hand fatigue, which for us it only gets worse over time.
The tool I used to use has a sliding clamp squeezer on the end of a cable like a bicycle brake cable, very handy for sneaking in to hard to reach places and locks on to save hand fatigue, Vice Grips are my number 2 choice.
@@stonesie81 Those brake cable style really are awesome. But for really thigh spaces I have a pair of 5" long nose vise grips.
I've been using vise grips for years and to be honest that's what I usually use most of the time have a good day
Plenty of room to get to the water pump, if only they were all that accessible it would be a pleasure. Well done Ray👊
Great job on the video and fixing the problem. However, the antifreeze you used is the wrong one. It uses the orange stuff (HOAT). Also, on the 4.7 it is necessary to use the bleeder on the upper hose to completely evacuate the air bubbles. The 4.7 is notorious for trapping air. Kudos again, keep up the great work.
As a 4.7 owner, I have never had an issue with the green antifreeze as long as it is "universal". The bleeder on the upper hose, is right on the money though. It is necessary to bleed any air out of the cooling system as the engine sits lower than the top of the upper hose.
There’s something very satisfying about the click of that torque wrench.
As a dodge tech, yes FCA loves their specs and sequences.
20:10 FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM 20:16 WORDS THAT WILL SEND RIPPLES ACROSS THE WORLD. Ray moonlighting as a psychic .
judging by the apprentice marks on the fan clutch nut, id say the air hammer used to get the fan off killed the life span of that water pump. air tools, not for removing fan clutches.
@Jimmy S first. MatCo is trash.
second, it doesnt matter. you are using impact force and not torque force ro release the thread friction. the only time you should use that tool is when the pump us being replaced. in this case.. they were replacing the pump, so its irrelavant. manufacturers make fan clutch removal tools for this very reason. and most manufacturers explicitly say NOT to use impact tools and specifically mention air hammers.
Dodge is probably particular because the 318s had some water pump installation problems. We were told to put goo on the long bolts that threaded into coolant. That was not done at the factory... and many will say they need no goo. But yet, time and time again, we see those 5.2s leaking around the long bolts.
Good video Ray. I’ve changed many of those and thankful they are not hard to get to or have to remove much stuff to do the job on those Dodges. Thank god my thermostat is on top my engine and I don’t lose much coolant when I change it out. That would suck having a thermostat on the lower hose like that. Lose all the fluid. I do use a lil wd 40 on the hoses to make the clamps slide on it easier. It’s helpful
WD40 on rubber is not the best choice IMHO. I tend to use silicone spray for door seals - works as well and I can be sure the rubber will not get damaged because of wd40...
Hitting that pump 'bell' reminded me of being a kid, driving over the air hose bell at the gas station!!
I've had days very similar to that wasp! :(
🐝 RIP
I'm amazed that your videos are so frequent. Thanks for sharing.
Hey teacher!! Leave those kids alone! Classic. You the teacher when it comes to vehicle repairs.
Funny moment in the video when he said "align!" while Another Brick in the Wall was playing.
This is another great video. Have learned so much feom watching you. You are very professional and entertaining person. 👍👍
Great job as always. I do tend to prefer the waterpumps with the rubber o-ring style gasket. Much easier and less wait time to operate. My own personal experience with pinch clamps has been pretty bad. Between leaks and access restrictions. I do tend to throw them out and use the screw style clamps. Maybe they just don't like me very much 🤷
Screw type clams are not ideal since over time they begin to leak. Tension clamps are designed to move or stretch due to the heat/cool cycles of the engine and won’t leak. I’ve seen techs over tighten worm gear type clamps and destroy hoses and damage old radiator plastic necks. Just get the respective hose clamp tools to installs and remove them. It makes work so much easier.
@@jamram9924 I've never seen anyone destroy a hose or break a pipe with worm gear types, assuming we are talking about the same type of clamp.
They fail before they get that tight, but again, maybe different clamps?
@@Cheepchipsable Ever wonder why manufacturers use this type of clamps? There’s an engineering purpose behind them. I’ve seen several plastic radiator necks broken on older radiators. The techs use their power tools and don’t know when to use hand tools to “feel the pressure/tension” Then sometime thereafter, those connections cause a fracture and then leaks begin. For me, it was an exercise in futility, so I just got the correct type tools.
@@jamram9924 your probably right. I just have bad luck with them.
I do use a lot of worm-gear clamps, but my unwritten rule is that they can be removed with whatever tool you choose, but they always go back on by hand with a 1/4" ratchet, while watching the hose compress carefully.
Gooder than the goodest good! And, perfect enough. Two phrases I use at work all the time.
Air impacts also needs to be lubricated via the air intake so the fins in the rotor won’t get stuck
I like the dings, reminds me of the old service stations.
That 4.7 will be back in 20,000 miles for the heads.
The timing assembly will go around 120,000.
Bet'cha.
You are a great mechanic Rainman!
For an ‘05, that Ram was in great shape and low mileage. I had an ‘04 with the 4.7 I replaced the engine at 188k then went 122k on the new engine til I bought a ‘17 Ram with the 5.7
those 4.7l's are pretty solid as long as maintenance is done. currently have an 03 durango with the 4.7l and currently have 298k, been a great reliable engine very little issues.
@@MichaelRobinson-up6fo only blew 1 rocker (follower) but that slipped right back in. Living in northeast rust belt, I mainly fought corrosion on fasteners.
@@MichaelRobinson-up6fo Well it must just be in CO where they fail in the aforementioned ways.
You are correct though, basic maintenance goes a long way!
Still prefer my 318 though.
my 4.7 2013 is all original except for plugs.
nearly 150K on it.
I have a 2007 Jeep Liberty. Went through two aftermarket water pumps that didn't last more than a year. Finally bit the bullet and paid for an OEM part. No problem since.
Pro tip: When removing stuck hoses like the one for the radiator, twist it on the nipple first to crack it loose before trying to pull it off. I always use a pair of channel locks opened up to one of the widest settings when twisting it.
A hook is much less likely to break the outlet. Grabbing and twisting can break a plastic housing.
@@aaronbritt2025 That's why you must be gentle; with enough experience, it's quick and easy to do. Always grab it as close to the base at the end of the hose as possible and the slowly work your way back. You can also twist it by hand to get it to come off as well.
@@RekuzanBeen doing this for 30 years. Trust me, sometimes careful doesn't matter. There's no downside to using the hook. You still twist off. The hook just breaks the "stiction".
@@aaronbritt2025 LMAO!!! Okay, you got me on that one; I've only been doing this for 25 years, so you got at least a half decade on me and I will DEFINITELY concede your point regarding the fragile nature of aging plastic. That being said, I would like to note that in my experience, some techniques just work better for some people & is their preferred method because it works best for them. We all have the same skill set in our wheel house (more or less), but individual application of said skills can vary widely & oft makes all the difference in the world. That being said, I'm sure there is definitely ONE thing we can both agree on. *** tl;dr = Doing things your 'own' way means reading the manual and knowing how to do it 'by the book' first! ***
@@aaronbritt2025 Also, there IS a downside to using a hook! You accidentally slip (because ethylene glycol is slippery AF), you rip, tear, or even worse, PIERCE the hose WITH the hook, and now have to replace it out of your own pocket.
If not already commented on, using the original flat spring hose clamp was the right move. Geared clamps are fine and I really liked them over the old wire type spring clamps - I have special pliers for them. Spring clamps are a PITA at times but what I learned is after a geared clamp is tightened property the pressure on the rubber hose wall will fade over time as the rubber flattens out and loses resiliency. The geared clamp cannot compensate for this. All you can do is give them a little tweak now and then. The flat spring type clamp will continue to exert pressure on the hose under it even after time passes & rubber is flattened. Little things like this make a difference.
Ray adds entomology to his list of skills. 😁
One thing you might want to try is Mercury Power Tune internal engine cleaner to get things to slide on rubber or plastic. It's like magic, very slippery and then it goes away. Really handy for things like those hose clamps that don't want to slide. I had to do the tiny 1/4 hoses on an older Honda CRV where the one that ducks from the back of the intake under the center had popped a pin hole. Seriously makes the job a lot easier.
I will say those 4.7s aren't that bad My buddy has one in a Durango all done up and s*** and it's pretty badass
I would be interested in hearing where he got his performance parts, as a fellow 4.7 Durango owner
My 1965 Delta 88 had waterpump with 7 bolts. I was 16.
3 diff head sizes, 3/8" , 1/2" , 9/16"
Ahh....the good old days.
Sorry you have to listen to country music while at work buddy! Jesus I would lose my brain cells. Nice work tho ray!!
AGREE 👌
Ding! Fries are done!😁 I want one of those green cleaner wheels, cleaned the gasket off quick. Have a great day Ray
Biggest mistake was when Chrysler replaced the 5.2L (318) with the 4.7L (Junk)
my 06 durango limited 4.7 lasted 300,000, after that it started to have O2/spark/fuel issues
currently have a 03 durango with a 4.7l with 298k miles, owned it since new and has had very little issues.
2012 Ram 4.7L - 202K Miles. Water pump went at 185K. Never had a water pump last that long in 40 years of driving!
Did my neighbor"s water pump outside in the cold next older version truck. What a pain to take apart. 35 degrees with the wind blowing. Thermostat on top. Had to tear half the front of the motor apart to get to the water pump. Fan was rusted on the shaft.
Interesting...I was going to comment what a miracle uncracked dash it has and then I noticed it looks like an overlay skin installed. I would have liked a demo of the aftermarket sound system. Can't really tell if that was a $60 or $600 dollar head unit, looked like it had phone usb connection, but dual apple and android? Hands free mic? DVD with parking brake bypass? SSD card? Backup cam? Bluetooth? Amp, speakers, subwoofer? Sound damping? Big 3 upgrade? All unlikely, I know. Probably a bossaudio head unit from carozone. Did have the dash bezel and phone port though. For 5.7l hemi there are optional 190 and 180 degree thermostats to replace the original 203 degree thermostat.
Looks to be a kenwood from what I can tell
Awesome work Rainman. Ive leaned alot thru your vids
Drives me nuts how often I see people replace the awesome spring clamps with trash China worm gear clamps
My mechanic did this to me on my 4runner when the hoses were changed 4 years ago. They've leaked almost every winter since. I'll be going back the next coolant dump.
I have been putting those garbage worm drive clamps on stuff for years. I even bought an entire rack of clamps in all sizes thinking how smug I was. MY sisters car, had it apart 2 years ago. Came back a few weeks ago low on coolant, every single one of those worm drive clamps were leaking during a pressure check.
You can get those clamps at say a 2" diameter for 50 cents or a dollar or or $3. Guess which one autozone sells :)
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This guy is great make a water pump replacement entertaining. How many guys can do that
I'm amazed that the customer didn't want to replace the belt with 80k miles since there was no extra labor to be charged .
maybe they did it last time they were in for the fan clutch replacement i thought the same thing replace everything while its apart i was even thinking it would be good time to replace hoses
I would have and also replaced the rad hoses too
Yeah I think belts and hoses are supposed to be done every 5 years or so?
You can get pretty deep down the rabbit hole replacing parts just because you are there. On that job, I would do everything Ray did plus a radiator cap based on my experience. Replacing anything that appears marginal while you are there.
If you want to justify replacing the belt, you would also do the hoses, and plastic idler/tensioner pulleys. It gets to be a pretty pricey job then.
Just did this same job last week on a 03 Dakota. Good to see I did it just like my man Ray.
I can't believe a 4.7 lasted long enough to wear out a pump. Usually the engine sludges up a fails before anything else
Change your oil 😂 my dodge 4.7 has been the best motor I’ve ever had.
@@waterloo123100 it's a documented problem. They actually changed the thickness of the pistons to help prevent the problem, but still quoting new engines anyway
well, change your oil every 5k miles like the manuel states, our 03 durango with the 4.7l has 298k with very little issues.
another case of “i listen to morons who fail about their engines dying when they change their oil every 10K”
She is a Gusher nice slow motion on removing the water pump and that slow motion in the dirt coming off the idle pulley was impressive I have never seen a white thermostat gadket either @Rainman Ray's Repairs
I always wonder when a torque spec calls for an odd number like 43 ft/lbs. Would rounding to 45 ft/lbs really be a problem?
Probably not, but when working with aluminum parts, I try to avoid the dreaded plinck of the casting breaking and go with the odd torque specs.
No way I would be running those down to 43 foot pounds. The long ones, that would be fine going into the block. The short ones go into the aluminum timing cover.
No.. Every bolt has a plus or minus spec
@@mph5896 the thing does Hold the fan to the engine.. Most likely a little important
@@brettwalkom948 I looked into that more. I thought that setup was odd with that high of a torque spec. I believe those are m10x1.5 bolts into aluminum. Torque on those for a standard fastener chart would be 24ft lbs into dry aluminum. I believe The factory spec is incorrect.
the soundtrack for this video is killer
Ray, how did you determine that the whole pump needed replacing instead of just the o-ring? Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work.
One wes to another wes, have a great day,
Personally, I wouldn't want to go that far into the repair and replace the gasket, with the chance the 80k waterpump will leak and start over again
My opinion on the job is that 3/4 of the cost is labor, so as far as parts go $10 for a gasket that might fix it or $70 for a pump and gasket that will for sure fix it. It's the same amount of labor either way. In the long run he is doing the customer a favor. Atleast that is my thought on it.
I would rather pay a bit more to include the pump in the repair than replacing the pump a year later and pay the same labor price a second time
If the gasket failed, and you're replacing the gasket, the Water Pump is 80k (assuming its original) and you might as well replace it as well since you have to take it off to replace the gasket anyways so you'll save yourself the cost of replacing it later if it fails since you'd have to do everything all over again to replace it. The cost of the water pump is around 80-120$. The labor is more than the cost of the part most likely. So its a 300-400$ repair, the gasket replacement would be a 200-300$ repair. If the water pump fails completely it could destroy the engine. Based on the age and mileage of the truck it is a good idea to just replace the pump itself (thermostat getting replaced is just good practice when replacing the pump since they're likely the same age and thermostats are cheap 15-30$).
Ray probably went over all this with the customer, or at least the service advisor to communicate it to the customer. It was a good call in my opinion, if purely from a cost benefit analysis.
My You Tube app on my Android TV starts a random Rainman video as soon as I open the app. Every time I start the app I get "good day everyone and welcome back"
Glad I came across this video. My companies work truck is an 05 ram 1500 with 316k and I slow water pump leak
My experience with the 4.7 in my Dakota has taught me to always make sure to bleed the air in the system by pulling the 8mm hex plug on the upper radiator hose to make sure all air is out of the system. The 4.7 has a knack for overheating itself as a result of that small overlook when servicing components along the cooling system and refilling it. Hopefully this comment helps if the truck returns for overheating issues in the future.
As a first -year apprentice, I went over every one. Because. (you never can tell)
I actually found one once, but it was on a vehicle that I did not work on.
Great work Master tech made that look so simple
Some silicone spray on the hoses makes those spring clamps much easier to deal with. Been doing is for years works awesome.
First build I did with a friend in my teens took us 4 days to figure out why it stoped running good after reassembling everything was a longer intake bolt pushing into a pushrod locking it up, now I separate every bolt to a magnet tray or cardboard to never run into that problem again
I prefer the constant tension clamps as well over worm gear clamps @Rainman Ray's Repairs
It’s a 4.7l they are known for overheating but mine doesn’t I changed things around lol , the 02 came with a different radiator then the one you worked on in this video . But I switched to this rad and it fixed allot of the issues but did a little bit more . Over the 3 years of owning it replaced 8 radiators 3 water pumps and 16 radiator caps 14 thermostats “oreillys brand” and 2 fan clutches and 1 fan , so far since I did the last repair it’s been good for 8 months with no issues , makes me miss the old 5.2 v8 that my 01 has , never had to replace so many cooling system parts with any other vehicle.
I have a cooling system vacuum/vacate tool. You fit it to the radiator, plug it in to the airline and it sucks out all the air. You then turn a lever and with a container full of anti-freeze the cars cooling system sucks it in. So the system is filled and bled in 2mins. Best tool i've ever bought!
Those 4.7l powertechs are pretty solid as long as you do normal maintenance and don't severely overheat them as they are aluminum heads that can drop the valve seat. currently got a 03 durango with a 4.7 with 298k miles and very little issues.
I like how you talk to your car parts!
Listening to Rascal Flatts while replacing the water pump. Great job on the tutorial and repair.