Why Myanmar's Civil War is Bad News for China
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Since the military coup in 2021, China has been one of very few state allies to Myanmar. But in this video, we'll explore how the ongoing civil war threatens to undermine that relationship with China facing significant economic and security problems.
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summary of this video
1. China has been a key ally for Myanmar's military regime since the 2021 coup.
2. The ongoing Civil War in Myanmar, especially near the China-Myanmar border, poses security challenges for China.
3. The Brotherhood Alliance, a coalition of ethnic armed organizations, launched Operation 1027 against the military regime.
4. China, concerned about security, urged a ceasefire in Northern Myanmar to protect its economic interests.
5. Myanmar is crucial for China's economic and trade links, with projects like the China-Myanmar Economic Corridor and pipelines for oil and gas imports.
6. Online scams and fraud originating from Myanmar, especially in Shan State, have been a significant concern for China.
7. China pressured Myanmar's military junta to address these scam operations, but with limited success.
8. The Brotherhood Alliance's commitment to tackling fraud operations may have garnered tacit approval from China.
9. China's support for Myanmar's military regime is conditional, with a focus on protecting its interests in stability, security, and economic cooperation.
10. If China perceives the military regime as no longer beneficial for its goals, it might reconsider its support, potentially impacting Myanmar's military.
Very straight to the point, thank you for the summary
I think you forgot to mention that the anchor also uses exclusively phone and laptop cases from... *BELLROY* !!!!
TLDW of tldr
@@geronimo8159lmao
You're good!
It's so sad for the people in Myanmar. It is such an amazing place with the kindest, most amazing people. And the food is terrific.
I got robbed there 😢
How's the average person's English? Good enough to work with in flied?
Nah people their aren’t kind at all they hate islam
@@longhairdontcare122depends highly on where you work. Most people have worse than A1 English.
Are you trying to hire people from there?
@@longhairdontcare122
I love that the fitness video has become representative of the Myanmar Coup
Me too.😁
@@Mhark127 #
It’s dark but really funny
How can people not tell it's all staged?
@@dhl567what do you mean by staged? the coup or a fitness video? I'm not sure.
I'm glad to see Myanmar's situation being uncovered.
Edit: Chinese bots be craving for their Social Credits in the replies
Lol Myanmar's "situation" (i.e. genocide) has been "uncovered" since 2017.
So many tragedies I cannot effect change upon, so little time😂
Nobody cares about Syria either. Russians been doing war crimes there for years too.
But hey, ONLY the Palestinians are important.
Here 1$ mr mob😂
This is fake news though 😂
Never forget: Countries have no friends. Countries have interests.
Indeed, In realism theory, countries are only based upon interests from one another. Todays enemy might become tomorrow’s friends, and vice versa.
Not really true, see Turkey and Azerbaijan and Hungary and Poland working together despite very clear difference in interests both politically and geopolitically...
Poland is still protecting Hungary even though they are deeply pro-Russian while 99% of Poland's population would press a button to nuke Russia with a grin on their face, and same for Hungary protecting Poland in the EU with veto powers when Hungary is losing EU money because of it. Turkey is drilling down on Israel being immoral during the Gaza war while Azerbaijan is buying billions of military equipment from Israel at the same time.
One can argue US-Israel is another example of a clearly one-sided interest
Britain and Portugal may disagree
@@captain_noodles: And their "friendship" was sooo great that during "the darkest hour" Portugal stayed neutral.
...the reality remains, Countries have no friends, only interests.
Little countries have friends. Big countries have interests.
People of Myanmar will win.
The girl dancing in front of the coup is both extremly funny and really sad. Basicly summed up the beginning of the decade, coups and tiktok dances
I'm so glad Myanmar is getting media attention again.. I hope Myanmar manages to sort things out.
For more, pls read the insightful multi-page comments by 'Ms. Gregoria' at, "Myanmar remains in social and economic crisis since military seized power/BBC News"... It's on CZcams.
My thoughts and prayers go out to long suffering Myanmar people. 🙏
Peace be with you.
My heart and prayers go out to Myanmar people as well 🙏
60,000 rapid deployment troops of People Republic of China stationed in Yunnan Province near the border with Burma. Just saying.
@@jondoe9548 China likes Burma.
🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for keeping up with your coverage.
That aerobics lady accidentally filming the coup event is just hilarious.
How Westerners think the footage was accidentally captured is beyond me
Thanks a lot for covering about Myanmar.
Thank you for reporting on this.
As someone who was born and raised in Myanmar but lives abroad, it’s really sad to see all this happening back in the country as hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians are dying as a result of the Junta's mass shelling and air assault across the country's ethnic regions.
Thank you for covering the ongoing conflict in Myanmar. I expect to see more videos of the conflict in Myanmar as it’s ongoing.
I think this was a great report. However, after watching this i do not think that the title is fitting for it's content. It doesnt seem from the reporting that the current trajectory of the war is bad for China.
its click bait
Not at all. They failed to mention that the main force in the 3-party brotherhood alliance is an ethnic Chinese group very close to the CCP
Their titles have been like this for a long time now good journalism but clickbait to get more people looking
@@hyonzui listening to westards talking about china logic is like CCP bots talking about Japan
@@dengist8172it doesn't say much - viercongs were ccp aligned and that didn't stop china atempt to invade.
It's not often that Myanmar gets attention.
There is, of course, a lot more to it than can be explained in a short video clip. Huge, as yet unexploited, deposits of oil and gas, minerals and gems are to be had in Myanmar and many are vying for them including Western entities.
Yeh, sure, western bad regurgitation at its best 😂
You'll pardon us, but currently, we tend to focuse way way more on our own ressources than anything else.
No problems if China wanna take our places though, it's not as if these minearl ressources were used in deindustrialised countries anyway.
Where are all the leftists who cannot shut up about how much they are concerned about victims in Ukraine and Israel? Where are they to talk about victims in Myanmar?
@@nanucit it is simultaniously bad and innocuous. Yes western entities will go into dangerous areas and extract 75% of the value, instead of say the 25% take in safe stable economies. This can seem unfair to the developing nation but gets better as reliability is established. It can be very mutually beneficial if not spent on corruption or say civil war.
On the other hand, such deals occur between the largest nations and dictators all the time. Take the top of mind example of Equatorial Guinea. Incredibly wealthy in natural resources, brutal dictatorship that is supported almost entirely by western oil money. Natural resources taken at discount. The residents in this scenario are doubly screwed.
On the other other hand: if the western companies werent there, the chinese or russians would be.
I dont have time to go into more nuance or speak about solutions but OP point can be valid depending on historical context, which I do not know well enough for Myanmar.
What western entities?
Wow, you know a lot about our country. Thanks bro.
Thank you for this news
Again, thank you for covering this topic.
Fun facts:
1. Factions of rebelling forces on north have been long existing for decades but some how of sudden those guerrilla forces come out from jungles winning the battles against the military junta one after another, using drones and other advanced weaponry in fighting.
2. One of the main reasons claimed by rebelling forces for launching the military operation 1027 is to strike criminals of telecom scams, mainly against Chinese citizens implicating billions of dollars and hundreds of being tortured and murdered, under the protection of the military junta.
3. The rebelling ethnics in north, they speak Chinese.
whats the number of those that are in north? Do they constitude a majority?
@prohacker5086 50多万人缅甸华人，这些人都是古代中国领土😂缅甸政府军要控制缅甸很困难，这些缅甸华人是英国割中国领土给缅甸的所以就有很多缅甸华人
@@prohacker5086 depends on which part you're talking about. The kokang region in Shan are mostly Chinese ppl in Myanmar
@@prohacker5086 its also funny how the kokang rebels are directly supplied and trained by ccp and this fact is completely ignored by most western medias
@@yaooooo846 seems like china would be able to gain its access to the sea if it gets control of just tibeo-burmese parts.
Is it just me or whenever they say you can find one of their videos linked in the description, the link is never there?
0:03 still can’t believe that this is how people knew things were about to hit the fan
Thanks for what you doing
I am no Myanmar military historian, but I do know that for years the Tatmadaw was considered one of Southeast Asia's finest military organizations. However, since the coup in 2021, morale for soldiers have declined sharply. The Tatmadaw has struggled to fight the rebel groups and they're lost many townships.
The tatmadaw has been terrorising the ethnic group for many years which makes it the longest civil war, before the 2021 coup start. My people (KAREN) been fighting, still fighting for our freedom.
The military has terrorized the ethnic groups for decades, with implicit support of the Burmanese majority because of Burmanese chauvinism
Why is Xi in San Francisco shaking hands with the people likely behind this military rebellion? Why he doesn't come to the aid of the Myanmar military ?
They are freedom fighters please do not labled them rebels.
Military was a big big rebel for so long since 1960. They interchanged civil cloths n military uniforms back n forth tricking to showcase or manipulated the fake elections again n again on world’s stage. They were the rebels from the start, they betrayed shamelessly n lied to the democratic gov: again n again. Never wanted to transfer the power back to civilian gov:.Power hungry money hungry greedy rebel ruthless military. Civilian gov:s suffered under dishonest rebellious military for so long. People were fed up. So don’t call the freedom fighters “ rebels .“ The truth is other way around. 😡
good information bro
Thank you for paying attention on our country, please expose our country's real situation to know all around the world, so that, could help us those humanitarian peoples of all around the world
"[...] is a key transport *artillery* [...]"
Am I imagining things, or are they now trading with high caliber delivery devices?
lmao, you’ve heard of America supporting dictators out of national interest. Imagine China supporting democracies out of national interest
The world needs to wake up and see that 99% of the time ideology is NOT what drives the decisions of ruling elites (no matter their stripes) lol.
Ironically, China did fund Monarchists against Maoists in Napal. Which is confusing
In fact, I believe that neither China nor the United States cares about what kind of political system this country adopts. As long as it is stable, tradable, and doesn't cause any trouble, it doesn't matter
Exactly and it's funny seeing all the Chinese nationalists in the comment acting all benevolent as a result of it. They only care about the money.
@@asscheeks3212I don’t know what evidence you have to prove that what you say is true. If you don’t have real evidence, please don’t speak nonsense.
Huge part of Northern Myanmar is basically China, people there speak Chinese(Yunnan Dialect), use Chinese Yuan, get their electricity exclusively from China, use China’s state owned cellular service, use Chinese textbooks, practice Chinese folk religion instead of Theravāda Buddhism, construct their government mimicking China’s, etc.
Yach, Wa state, or the First autonomous region of Shan state, is the most powerful ethnic army in Myanmar and was derived from the Myanmar communist party.
Whenever China calls anything a “dialect” what they mean is a separate language. French and Italian are often more closely related then Chinese dialects are to mandarin
It's basically a China satellite state under the hood.
Won't be surprised if, in the future, China takes a page from Putin's playbook in Ukraine and launches a special military operation into Northern Myanmar.
If that happened,, then subsequently annex it under the pretext that Northern Myanmar voted to join China in similar moves akin to Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine.
You seem to be talking about Wa State but Wa people mostly practice Theravada Buddhism and speak the Wa language (an Austroasiatic language) unless you're talking about another region of Myanmar.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x But nearly all major leaders of Wa state and United Wa State Army are Ethnic Han and probably can't even speak Wa language fluently (Such as Bao Youxiang (president and military leader)and Xiao Mingliang (second leader and borned and studyed in Yunnan Province)).
Chinese is compulsory cource in the school of Wa state in past 3 dacades and citizen of Wa must need preficient Chinese to get a decent job in state governmeny, ruling party, and military (even government documents mostly writting in Chinese and Mandarain is the working language in government and business circle)
i have a suggestion
you could make a brand new channel about the history of governments in certain states/country (like Myanmar or China)
I'm tried of hearing the same thing over and over again
if new viewers don't have any idea abt it, u can just direct them to ur history channel
I am actually amazed that segment on scams didn’t turn into a VPN add or something
Do you guys have a newsletter? I would love daily blogs and pay for it rather than videos.
1:05 As of my post, I dont see the link for that vid in the discription.
Staying hopeful for better future of people of Myanmar.
An excellent video on an underreported subject.
3:43 'Key transport artillery' is the freudian slip we do not deserve, but one we can all relate to right now in 2023 :')
The video about why the war is not in the description as they said, seems to have been deleted...
The video is hard to find it has two different titles.
I guess internal conflict in Myanmar makes it the 4th worst country to live in Asia after Yemen, Afghanistan and North Korea.
You forgot Turkmenistan
@@yaroslavkobezskyi Turkmenistan, Syria, Iraq and Cambodia are behind these 4
Sounds like China might prefer a democratic Myanmar, they would be easier to deal with in the short to mid term for them.
They dont realy care as long as they get to earn money
china's best interest is perhaps a neutral or non-western-aligned government in myanmar, with stable politics and no ethnic war
which then china could cooperate to become its gateway to the indian ocean
China will support whoever is in charge at the border checkpoints.
China has always been business minded, they don’t really interfere and focus mainly on trade.
@@quoccuongtran724 china doesn't care what government system myanmar use. It can be communist today, democratic next month, socialist next year. China can work with anyone. Big or small country, Friends or enemies, rich or poor country.
Here I am excited to press "the link in the description" for the explained video but there was no link :(
You said "online scams" and I thought it was an ad read 😂
Why is wikipedia cited as a source in the description?
I totally forgot about the lady who danced during the coup 😂 she didn’t know she was recording history.
The problem in Myanmar is also overflowing in neighboring areas in India. The has been influx of refugees into Mizoram and Manipur. This ia also causing ethnic violence in Manipur where the insurgents from Myanmar has been fueling the violence.
Spread the word! #JUSTICEFORMYANMAR
I think you forgot to actually link the other Myanmar video in the description
Transport artillery?
That woman at the start: *_Tulala does the Hula from Hawaii 💃💃_*
Very interesting
Learnt something new
at 3:42 is what is being said artery or artillery?
This pattern is similar to what happened in Indonesia in the 60s, there is one thing in common, namely the military movement. There is definitely Chinese influence in the current military government.
3:40 key transport artillery lol
Cracked at the intro with the dancing girl🙏😭😭😭
That onto though X'D
I nearly thought we would be hearing more VPN advertising @5:13
Muse (town in northern Shan state in Myanmar) is pronounced Moo-seh. Thanks for covering this topic on Myanmar.
Can't you all change the name to fit pronunciation correctly instead
Poor Myanmar I hope their people are ok.
How long till China takes over Myanmar? People will think this idea is ridiculous but Myanmar gives them a lifeline for trade to the Indian Ocean and skipping the American Australian naval blockades if war breaks out in the Pacific.
3:40 Is a "transport artillery" when they export goods by firing them out of a canon?
Involuntarily capturing a coup d'etat while trying to record a fitness video.
She'll be forever inmortal and part of history, doing the silly dance.
What a time to be alive.
One of the defining videos of the decade I think.
Johnny Harris did a good video on Facebooks role in the genocide which adds an interesting parallel story that compliments the Chinese angle
Can't find the suggested video "Mynmar crisis explained"
here is someone knows half of the truth speaking confidently and didn't know how far he is away from the truth
5:07 I thought there would be a nordvpn ad lol
They forgot Rohengyas
when your sources are heavily leaning on the BBC, Reuters & wikipedia, you know its going to be good.
You’ sold me on Bellroy!
A transport artillery?
All around the world autocrats have to learn the hard way that people will settle for nothing less than freedom
I hope Nyanmar and Chinya can figure things out 😿
Neymar and china ???
UwU Nyan! Nyan!
😿😿😿😿
3 Brotherhood Alliance sounds like something out of a fantasy Wuxia setting or some anime Romance of the Three Kingdoms. I hope they don't pursue Lu Bu.
may god bless brothers and sisters from Allies forces.
I'll be honest here, that bit about an online scam epidemic in Shan state put me into ad-read mode
Its the access to their ports & the pipeline...
They are fighting for almost 80 years now. Whenever that happened, civilian will fled to Thailand. Now there are almost 7 millions of them in Thailand now.
It is pronounces Mu Sè btw, not Muse.
I wouldn't be shocked if China played a role in the success of the ethnic rebels in Myanmar. Facing internal and external issues, China's increasing demands for concessions on the Myanmar government have not been sufficiently met. Threats of overturning the regime became reality. Other Internet sources report the rebels' weapons were upgraded with PLA equipment.
I guess this weapon could directly come from the United Wa State Army, the most powerful ethnic militia (around 20000 to 60000 manpower) in Myanmar and very closely tied with China. But China probably give Wa state tacit approval to transfer these weapons.
Yeah because those ethnic rebels in Shan, Kachin and Kokang are the same ethnic groups as those in Yunnan. They see each others as brothers and the border is porous. They've been the natives in the region. If China opposes those ethnic groups, then the local communities in China wont be happy obviously. Its really the same situation in India. Look up the history further South of Kayin states as well, those guys have been cruelly persecuted by the Burmese ever since British left and even before. Actually, having an unstable neighbor like Myanmar blows. Dont have much love for the Buddhist Burmese majority and junta who they formerly supported, since they are awful, opportunistic and cunning people.
Do you really think CCP is scare of its ethnic groups in Yungnun? Or other way around?😂
Do you really think CCP need assistance from Three brotherhood alliance? Or other way around? China can make their livilihood in hells if CCP acts on it.
Do you really think CCP needs Junta? Or other way around? Why do you think rebels are winning all the way?
Do you know what the rebel operation 1027 means? Why 1027? Not any other number? 😂
In short, China is answer to every question.
So at 0:15 , it hurts me in the soul place that they don't draw in correctly that America is to the east. More likely they approach from the Malacca direction at the least.
Imagine that, sponsoring dictatorships is not good for business. Chiba needs to figure out that democracy is the only way to achieve long term financial stability
The town of Muse is not pronounced "muse" like the Greek muses. It's actually pronounced more like "Mu - Sel" (with a silent L). I can help with the pronunciation of Myanmar names.
Kyauk Phyu (literally translated to White Rock/Stone, Phyu = white, Kyauk = stone/rock) is pronounced this way:
Kyauk: the word sort of rhymes with gout or trout. The Ky has a sort of Ch sound in like the name Charlie, but with a K instead of C. Try saying Chout but with a bit of K sound instead of C sound.
Phyu: Ph here is not pronounced like the Ph in Phone. P has a soft sounding P like in the name Pat or Pete. Combine saying Pu-you with the soft P without the first 'u' in the sound: pyou (should rhyme with you or foo or yuu).
Don't bother, westerners genuinely never care about pronouncing names right
They promised us that they would try to improve pronunciation, but once again they show that they really don't care at all.
I swear Burmese spelling is intentionally confusing to english speakers.
(Yes, I'm using the old spelling that ends up being closer to the actual name of the country. I think that should only aid in my point)
@@derrickthewhite1 Some "English" spelling is confusing to English speakers too.
@@ALwinDigital Fair enough!
Though in the case of Burmese its not actually spelling, its romanization: how they present their language to outsiders. The current version I was complaining about was created in 1980(!) and is aggressively pushed by the Burmese government. So the government actively created and insists on a romanization more difficult for outsiders to understand.
It’s Mu-se, not Muse 😅
7:50 to 7:55 That was another awkward cut 🤔 Did Jack go pff script again or say something out there/crass/unnuanced?
Why is Xi in San Francisco shaking hands with the people likely behind this military rebellion? Why he doesn't come to the aid of the Myanmar military ?
more converage pls! im a westerner living in china, the social media and atmosphere is very supportive of 10/27. very interesting, i think china actually supports the brotherhood 联盟 and want a regime change
four undercover chinese cops were buried alive by the myanmar scam groups, which are backed bt the myanmar govt. made lots of news in china,please cover this
Interesting, US been utterly useless in trying to push democracy 😅
You should check the social media posts way before the coup, before Aung Sang Su Kyi was released and rose to power. At that time, Myanmar army was attacking ethnic groups, and China was housing many refugees from Kachin, Kokang, etc. At that time, the Myanmar military hypocritically blamed the northern ethnic groups of poppy farming. Chinese people were way more sympathetic to ordinary Myanmar people before they revealed their true colors and blamed China for everything while ignoring much bigger culprits that actually were junta allies. Chinese especially in the border towns are still sympathetic of their ethnic brothers. Personally, I sympathise with the ethnic minorities but for the Buddhist Bamar Southeast Asian majority, I'm not fond of. Hope they learn to respect different religions and people, and hope they remember to thank the ethnic groups fighting for their freedom.
Truth
I legitimately thought an ad was starting when TLDR started talking about scams lol
Is this video more ads than content?
It may be disruptive for the short term, but I think it will strengthen China's influence in the long term by reinforcing and enhancing their power broker status.
This video is full of shit, he is not a Chinese expert😂
Good for WHO ?
Yeah a divided country is a country easier to invade and install a puppet governement in...
China: *tries to stop the civil war with ceasefire*
Also China: *illegally enter the West Philippine Sea with some ships and claimed to be "reasonable legal"
Me: Bruh. 😒
“On October 27th, the Brotherhood Alliance launched ‘Operation 1027’…” was this before or after Operation Tuesday Sneak Attack?
@3:40 transport *artery not ‘artillery’
well its about time to Myanmar to change course
It would be great if China figured out that it's interests would best lie with the people of Myanmar - shaping the resulting government to be more democratic/communist would be a great boon for all involved.
last time we supported a southeast asian country that wanted to be more democratic/communist, as soon as it won the war, it started planting mines inside our territory and tried to land grab
@@duded2281 lol what a generalization! So your solution is to not support the people near your country 🙄 like mimic the US and go for contras instead of humanitarians?
you keep on saying not supporting, maybe you should look up some of the groups of the rebel alliances, do their flags look familiar? where do you think they get supplies without a production base? where do the refugees escape and who's openning the border to them. @@monsieurdorgat6864
China stopped exporting revolution ages ago and direct interference sets a bad precedent. It will make China behave more like America and its imperialist model of global affairs. China is not going to use its military and political influence to impose a specific system or government.
Lmao you had to put up the exercizing lady who was doing her routine while the coup was happening
China wants to support all three horses in the race. Then China is sure to win.
We'll see... Especially if the resistance win against the military regime.
China does not want democracy to win in Myanmar
No, Chinese people only support the rebels. The myanmar government thinks China's patience is unlimited
I can't fucking believe online scams are defining geopolitics. This is ridiculous, but I guess once a problem becomes big enough the actions made in an effort to solve it are just as ridiculous.
You don't know that the online scam is protected by the Myanmar military junta, and he is a party involved in the fraud
As a chin it’s horrible to see this war
They've just taken a local centre near the capital.
As long as China doesn't interfere with democracy being reinstated in Myanmar, they have my blessing.
China does not want democracy to win in Myanmar
They only care about making money
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Oi I can't find the other video linked in the description. Did you lie to me?
When they started talking about scams, I thought it was gonna be leading to an ad for like a VPN 😂
😂😂😂