stackhouse filibuster - grandfathers
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2012
- Jed: Don't ever, ever underestimate the will of a grandfather. We're mad men. We don't give a damn. We got here before you and they'll be here after. We'll make enemies, we'll break laws, we'll break bones but you willnot mess with the grandchildren.
I love how Leo just deadpans "there was quite a bit of sugar in the Creme de Caramel", like the president is a kid on a sugar rush. 😀
That Guys face when he realizes that the guy asking the question is helping him. That part is what really brought tears to my eyes.
I always cry at this one. I like how they all do a voiceover in the end, united in their hope that he takes the question. love it.
The West Wing is what people hoped government is. Unfortunately it's only a TV show.
it all brought tears to my eyes
Good acting. 👍👍
@longshot7601 it’s what politics and government can be, a place where people of all kinds and all backgrounds can come together to get things done. It can be like that, so go out and vote and make this show a reality
Bartlett's speech saying "Grandfather's are madmen. We'll break rules, we'll break bones. But you don't mess with the grandchildren!"
That's so damn true.
"There was a lot of sugar in the creme de caramel"
My grandfather was the same way
Along with "There's no damn holiday for us either!" XD
Can't wait for my kids to have kids so I can morph into a motherfucking badass grandad.
Same for grans
“cause tonight I've seen a man with no
legs stay standing, Dad, and a guy with no voice keep shouting and if politics brings out the worst in people then maybe people bring out the best 'cause I'm looking at the T.V. right now and damned if 28 U.S. Senators haven't just walked onto the floor to help” the writing is just sheer poetry. (Or as Sam would say “a little thing called cadence”). Sorkin at his best
I tear up every single time I listen to this
one of the best episodes of this show because of this scene
Yea Sorkins awesome! Gotta new thing coming out soon about Lucille Ball played by Nichole Kidman🤔😮😖🤨😝. Good for Sorkin BUT
NICHOLE KIDMAN🤨🤞
Sorkin was genius 🎉
Leo: "We usually don't raise our hands"
Bartlett: "Though its not the worst idea in the world"
Just Ace !
I mean it would make those meetings where Barlett looks ready to kill people go better haha
I like how after Leo heard Donna’s explanation Donna just repeated since it was just a simple statement.
The Senator asking Stackhouse to yield for a question, and then Stackhouse *actually* yielding the floor were but two of the most beautiful moments on this *WONDERFUL* show. The Sackhouse Filibuster is easily in my Top Five of best WW episodes of all time. It was extraordinary.
What are your other 4
This is in no particular order:
The Stackhouse Filibuster
Gone Quiet
The Supremes
Noel
Angel Maintenance
@@storyofcory I love the debate scene with THE SUPREMES
@@storyofcory I like Celestial Navigation. I hawd woot canawl. Also the one about C.J's first day as Chief of Staff. And the shut down episodes are great too.
I agree. It was beautifully written script.
His monologue on grandfathers and grandchildren hits harder when you remember that the first time we are introduced to Bartlet he is defending his granddaughter and her opinions on abortion from religious fanatics in the pilot.
Her opinions on abortion that he himself doesn’t share.
Speaks even louder about his integrity.
Interestingly, if his granddaughter is “all of twelve “, then her mother Elizabeth has to be at least 29/31. But I didn’t think the Bartletts had been married for 32 years at the start of the series. Any comments?
@@michaelhayden725
My big Sister was born 2 days after my Parents' 1st wedding anniversary. So it's possible.
@@michaelhayden725 Yes, it's fiction.
@@michaelhayden725Michael, I admire that pay attention to such trivial things, but are you sure this is the most important thing?
I'd just like to point out that Donna was the one who saved the day in there. She barely steps into the Oval Office or even shares a room with the President, and she saved the day, right there, without anyone noticing.
Despite being the secretary of the Deputy CoS, Donna is one of the most powerful people in this show.
@@bmalloy0 initially she came on the show as a guest, but won everybody over, and a permanent part was written for her
@Ninjafish In this scene Donna says that Josh likes to explain things to her, and she lets him, and this was one of the things he had explained to her. Josh was not in the room at that particular time. It's possible that Donna went to CJ with her theory and she took her to the Oval Office.
Of course, I am speculating on what happened behind the scenes on a TV show :-)
@@bmalloy0 Does that make her deputy deputy COS?
@Ninjafish he probably did but failed to connect the dots. Josh is a character that knows a lot but not necessarily what to do with all that information. Donna, on the other hand, is a character that knows how to connect pieces of information together. Throughout the show she gets frustrated with Josh because she’s already steps ahead of him, but he’s too stubborn to get there quickly
I love the “not the worst idea weve had around here” when Donna raises her hand always makes me chuckle
My father (a grandfather of five) loved this moment. After he died, I incorporated it into my eulogy for him. Love or loath his politics, Aaron Sorkin has to be one of the finest writers of our times.
Absolutely and I'm not even an American. Aaron Sorkin at his best is just sheer brilliance... Thus far his crowning works are TWW and The Network...
@@ZATennisFan Don't sleep on Sports Night. Even Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip wasn't that bad until the end when it was canceled and everyone stopped caring.
Sorkin was genius
"Start with the grandfathers" is an underrated snippet
Brought me to tears, missing what our government used to be. There were true heroes then. When Daniel Inouye, was laid in state his friend Bob Dole, himself in a wheelchair told his aide to help him walk to the casket. He said he didn't want Danny to see him in a wheelchair. Senator Inouye, democrat, and Senator Dole Republican, were longtime friends. Miss the civility, and grace of what once was.
Democrat and Republican/ Liberal and Conservative used to mean we want what’s best for this country and we want to see this country get better but we disagree with how to do that. Sensationalism and partisanship on both sides ruined that
@@giovannitrejo3518 No, it is not "both sides"... That is the kind of bullshit generalization that has caused all of this. There is *nothing* that the conservitards have advanced as a bill in the last 10 years that is anything that will help the common American. Not one bill. And they've sat on over 410 bills advanced by the Democrats to keep them from even coming to the floor. That's not "both sides". That's *one* side stopping everything for no reason other than to be contrary. That's *one* side stopping government for nearly eight years because there was a black man in the Oval Office. That's *one* side standing in the way of some kind of attempt at progress, because some rich asshole might not be able to make another 2 billion dollars next year. It is *not* both sides.
You're right. One a Democrat, one a Republican, both long time friends. But another point....they both suffered lifelong wounds in World War II. Dole lost the use of one of his arms. Inouye lost not only the use of an arm, but the arm itself.
@@giovannitrejo3518 If you look through American history, rarely have we had politicians who "want to see this country get better." What we have today is really no different than at any other point in our history. The arguments are different, but let's not forget that we, as a nation, were so divided in the 19th century we fought a civil war. The only difference between history and the present is that we are living through the bs today.
@@jasonkoch3182I'd like to only amend what you said by saying that every politician has always wanted to make 'their' America better: a conservative wants to make the country better for rednecks and racists and Bible thumpers, a lobbyist cash cow wants to cut taxes and kill the EPA, a liberal wants to make living easier for the poor and keep the environment livable
"We'll start with our friends, and when we are done with those two we'll move onto the other 98"................ Such a great line.
Start with the grandfathers
Given that most senators start out as congressmen or state legislators or prosecutors... the US Senate usually the home of politicians 50-90... would grandfathers be most of the Senate?
It's 97: 100 -Stackhouse - 2 = 97.
Isn't there a non-voting senator for DC also?
"I want to call Senators. We'll start with our friends. When we're done with those two, we'll move on to the other 98"
Love that line!
+TheNBAFANaddict Me too - though the nitpicky part of my brain has come to realize it should've been the other 97 as Stackhouse was already 1 of 100
I thought Josh was the 101st.
Actually it should have been "we will move on to the other 97". Stackhouse himself is a Senator. So, if we remove 2 friends then there will be 97 Senators left. :)
Isn't it? Such a classic Sorkin line that.
That was also Bartlets problem. Remember in the first season he chews out VP Hoynes for the remark that the goal is to have good relations with Congress? Bartlet corrects him and says they need good relations with the American people.
The problem is, with that attitude, you never build up good relationships in the House or Senate. That's why Bartlet remarks in this scene he has only two friends in the Senate.
I only now realized that 4 castmembers provided the voice-overs in relay. And when CJ leaves the bullpen, you can see a staffer just outside the bullpen clenching her fist to enjoy the moment of her own, while standing alone. Great touch.
The power of this show is that Donna can casually mention something like "Yes sir, but Josh does and he likes to explain things, and well.. I let him" and it makes me so envious of that fictional character getting to live that.
Spoiler: That line led me to believe that someday, they would be together, and they did. Many people in relationships and marriages are exactly the same way. Also, who shares a beer like that without something else going on.
The character apparently gets to pay attention when the other people are speaking to each other and to her.
You'd be surprised what you learn when you are an active listener. Lots of people are more than willing to tell you anything you want to know if they see you are hanging on to their every word. ;-)
@@dee_dee_place As a Kid I used to lay on the floor and read while the adults were talking as if I wasn't there. AMAZING the stuff you can hear.
"Don't ever, EVER underestimate the will of a grandfather."
One of the most honest lines in tv history.
Never enough appreciation for the little smile in Grissom's voice when he suggests Stackhouse have a seat.
"guy with no legs keep standing, guy with no voice keep shouting.." ninjas cutting onions
"Grandfathers all" Chills.
"Let's start with our friends. When we're done with those two, then try the other 98."
This is my favorite line.
I raised my autistic stepdaughter and this episode makes me cry, every time! I miss this show.
The damned statue subplot was hilarious. Allison and Janel played off one another perfectly.
The other thing why love this so much is because of the sort of narration that was made by Josh, Sam, and C.J while they were messaging their parents. The other reason why I tear up in this scene. 💙😭
we all do
One of my absolute favorite episodes. Still makes me tear up even after six billionth time watching this scene.
Let me just remind everyone that Donna saved the day here, and she technically saved the day later on in the show when the White House orchestrated a two-judge nomination for the Supreme Court. That time, Donna told her story about her parents' two new cats to Josh, and Josh was the one who brought up the cat theory.
If you're counting the 2 cats line, then the line that inspired Josh to suggest the Antiquities Act to the President should count as well :)
I do love Donna's line when she realizes what Josh is doing. "Oh my God, you're putting my mom's cats on the Supreme Court."
"I'm not crying, I'm just sweating from my eyes from all the manly exercises I've just done."
fuckin' onions AGAIN! I can't catch a break...
@@steampunker7
Thank you
"I was in the House, I know nothing about Senate rules."
"Yes, sir, but Josh does, and he likes to 'explain things', and well, I let him."
Pure Sorkin
Donna’s line about Josh explaining things and she lets him is funny
Television @ it's best; as a grandmother I can never watch this w/ out tears.
Lord, I miss intelligent TV.
Intelligent TV is still around. It's just that this was extremely intelligent TV about the most powerful room in the world.
I rarely watch TV. I'm watching YT every night.
So few intelligent writers these days.
I watched this show. Which is saying something because I don't watch TV
"It's not the worst idea in the world." I just love those sorts of grumbled comments throughout the entire series.
Especially when, as in this case, its in the context where the same character has only just stopped complaining about someone else being a grumpy old man! 😂
I just watch West Wing clips when i'm feeling depressed about the current political atmosphere
I know what you mean. It was a time capsule of an idealized view of how Dems used to think. In real life, today, the Dem party is way different than what we watch in this old show.
@@dangeroreilly2028 ya, and they actually display signs of competence and class compared to watching this current administration
I watch them to renew my belief in honour and integrity. Particularly now.
I still pray for a real version of Jed Bartlett to cone out of nowhere and become our President AND I don't care what party he or she would belong to.
@@michelleabad295 I'd settle for a Vinnick too xD
One of the best episodes ever
Compared to where I'm from, this is like watching a scene straight out of some holy scripture, not that I'm a believing man. But so many good fights are lost because we wanted to support a party rather than supporting people.
Sometimes I wonder how josh got as far as he did in life without Donna
My fav scene in all of West Wing... man, I miss this show.
Yukizboy - but never forget "...I work at the Whitehouse" that was right up there in the best lines ever.
One of my favorite scenes of the entire series. Don't remember how many times I've watched it.
"When we finish with those 2 then we'll start with the other 98" great writing
I showed my grandparents this episode.
To me this episode is a tribute to the grandparents.
I wanted them to know stackhouse and Bartlett’s motivations reminded me of them.
Gran enjoyed it
Grandpa can’t follow something this hard after his stroke.
I'm not crying, you're crying.
+G C Don't know if this is relevant BUT this scene brings tears to my eyes everytime ! and raises two points- 1) how truly great this series was ! and b) wouldn't it be great if the world worked like this ??
+Kate Satriani Yes! Just watched the scene again after all these years, and the tears rolled again.
+G C It makes me cry every time too, you're not alone, one of my favourite episodes ever!
+Sam French Just a thought though- did anyone actually thank Donna ?
We're all crying! lol
The filibuster should be changed to require a standing filibuster again. No more killing bills without announcing it.
This segment was beautiful, emotive, human and the sort of thing we could only hope for from the people in these positions in real life. As a grandfather myself (3 girls, 2 boys) I can relate to Stackhouse' dedication to his family.
Yes, because I'm also a grouchy old son of a bitch I picked up on the flaw in the script as the individual at the podium in the senate would not be addressed as "Mr. Chairman", but rather, "Mr. President" as he would be the President of the senate. It doesn't take anything away from the emotion of this episode it's simply my lifelong dedication to being a grouchy old son of a bitch.
Cheers, friends!
Equally old, and equally grouchy myself, and you're correct. The President Pro Tempore presides over Senate business when the real President of the Senate, the VP of the United States, is not present to fulfill that duty. Regardless of whom the presiding officer of the session is, they are referred to as Mr. President or Madam President, an exception being when an impeachment trial is underway and the presiding authority is the Chief Justice of SCOTUS, who is referred to as Mr. Chief Justice during the trial. I only know that because I was visiting in Washington in December 1998 and managed to attend part of the Clinton impeachment trial, where we were told to expect as such, and the rarity of anyone presiding over the Senate without the President title of address was noted.
Every goddamn time the ending of this thing makes me cry
The *GREATEST* show in the _HISTORY_ of television.
I like to put on this show and pretend I’m watching real news unfold on CNN. One of the only ways I can keep sane these days.
You're not alone. Gods help us all you're not alone.
But every day that passes brings us one day closer, lets us take one step further toward our chance to end this nightmare. To get up and speak out and maybe not fix everything but at least let us start healing.
It won't be easy to be sure. But when the day comes we're going to need you and everyone we can find to come together. Till then hang in there and know that you are not, in any way, shape, or form, alone.
Vote that bum out come Nov
Jed Bartlett for President!!!
Flush the Turd on November 3rd , VOTE Blue our democracy wont survive four more years of this .
Why isn't some TV network showing reruns of this series every night?
If there was ever a better show than this, I don't know what is is.
+Pat Doyle There really isnt.
Just about at the top of the list for me, too. The Newsroom, another Sorkin show, was also a gem that is right up there with TWW in my opinion.
No other show ever got my loyalty like this show.
Frasier, cheers, star trek, Battlestar
@@davidcorreia3901 Dramatic series, West Wing was the best. Modern family is the last of the decent sitcoms. Every thing else on network TV is crap.
It's a shame our leaders can't cooperate and collaborate like this.
This ALWAYS makes me cry.
RIP George Coe aka Senator Stackhouse
+DrMcQPS You're telling me that the guy who played Stackhouse played Woodhouse on Archer?
Why yes, he was. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Coe
DrMcQPS and one of the original SNL cast members
and Senator Grissom
Harrison Young (2005)
I'm currently on my first watch of The West Wing, so this is the second time I've seen this scene, and I'm crying. 😭
I’m not crying you’re crying 😿 I did my first series watch through a month or two before you waiting for our national nightmare to end and you would have to be one heartless so and so not to be moved by this episode and scene.
thank you, Aaron Sorkin.
The best television writing ever.
I hope Donna got a bonus for working that out.
I get goosebumps and tears every single time I watch this. This is my favorite episode of my favorite show. Damn, I miss The West Wing.
The horror of not knowing if my severely disabled child will have a safe and happy life after I die is what keeps parents like me on edge, and passionate for systemic change in healthcare / social security. Kids like mine are the "least among us" - and for those who cannot and likely will never meaningfully contribute to society, what is just and feasible for them? How we answer this question will determine the worth of our species, IMO.
Well said.
There are other ways to meaningfully contribute - although a lot of politicians and pundits seem to think profits are the only metric, they are very wrong. Our impacts on our loved ones and/or communities can be meaningful and substantial even if we never earn a penny.
I say this as a disabled person who is no longer able to work, I'm not trying to disagree with you or the need for our governments/societies to codify protections into law.
I've had my own health and disability get worse as the UK has gradually reduced protections and funds available for health and disability policies and benefits, and some days it is hard to feel I can still be a valued member of my society, but my, and your child's worth is not defined by the failings of policies (&/successes of lobbyists?), etc.
I wish you the best of luck with the changes needed to US healthcare, etc. and also hope that your family are all well. Solidarity from London
The wealthy #conservitards will all someday try to institute a program of eugenics, where children like yours, and all the others who don't meet their idea of what a "real American" looks like, will be done away with quietly, all because those individual humans, for all their gifts, aren't able to produce profit for the machine, and aren't able to contribute to their power. And that's a fact.
@@lancer525 I see blindspots on this issue across the political spectrum. Public services are so limited for the severely disabled that families need to build and protect sizeable estates to fund special needs trusts. It is a strange situation. One becomes very conservative in terms of taxation, but also ready to act very progressively when a credible opportunity to expand public services appears.
@@jaspdx63 No, both sides are not the same. By no means. When the #conservitards in Wisconsin decide to "opt out" of the free lunch program to keep kids from becoming "dependent on handouts" instead of wanting children to be fed, they are demonstrating their belief that poor people, the infirm, the disabled, and the challenged are expendable burdens on society. Public services are limited because #conservitards are doing everything they can to cut them.
I can't believe anyone can dislike this, it's wonderful & makes me tear up every- time. They must be soulless, The West Wing is the best show ever made for sure.
The closes in the past but very different was MASH. But yes - WW is superb.
It's because it's wonderful that some people dislike it. They are miserable, and loathe anybody who isn't. Sad, but true.
the greatest show ever put on TV, just amazing writing and such a incredible cast
THIS is how the Senate is SUPPOSED to be.
”Josh like to explain things, and I let him”...brilliant absolutely brilliant🤓🇸🇪
You should check out "The West Wing Weekly" podcast. That actually comes up quite a bit. Many episodes rely on the exposition of Donna asking Josh questions about the topic of the episode, and him explaining it to her. I never realized what a huge factor that was in the show.
Bayougirl78: thank you for the tip 🥰
Every episode was as powerful as this episode.
I really miss this show.
The finest hour of television in history. Period.
Jesus, absolutely. I envy you. I've watched it once, then watched it all again with my brother. Now watching it all again with my best friend. It's a rare treasure.
"We'll call our friends, after that, we'll deal with the other 98." OUCH.
This is how a filibusters should work!
This was actually the very first episode I ever saw. I was hooked after that and went on to watch the whole series.
There are more exciting episodes and better plotted episodes but I don't think there is a lyrical 5 minutes in this on any other series. It makes me feel hopeful about humanity.
One of my favorite episodes of TV, ever.
Never tire of this scene. One of the best in television
"Let's wake up a parlianentarian..." Funny line there Bartlet.
This is one of my all time favorites. Thank you for putting it up for us all!
Love, love, love this episode. Makes me cry happy tears everytime.
Me too.
Watching this in 2018 and crying.
TokyoSpike 2019
2020 " this year we really need West Wing!
@@lisaredwine4857 Amen!
I remember in the spring of 2001 sharing this entire episode to my political science class ( I was one of the students, mind you) and inadvertently converting a few people to become fans of this wonderful masterpiece.
I always loved this episode. But now that I have a nephew with Autism, it hits a little closer to home. ❤
This makes me cry every time.
Call our friends in the Senate, after we talk to those two, we'll ask the others." Sheer brilliance!
There are great TV shows, and then there are TV shows that shake you to your core, that bring sobs from the bottom of your stomach up your throat, that make you weep and trust in humanity just a little bit all over again. There are stories that are told for the sake of being told, and then there is the West Wing.
Yes. yes, well said. Especially meaningful today, the world of Trump we live in. Just who are these senators, these chest pounding patriots, who allow him to do the great harm he is doing to our country???
They need to rerun the West Wing in primetime.
Two Questions: 1. Why does this show ALWAYS make my eyes leak? And 2. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE REAL PRESIDENTS AND STAFFS LIKE THIS?!?!!?!
Amen!!
Man, I miss this show!
One of the many best scenes, from this, or any other series, those damn onions again.
this is why i loved that show the quality of story and writing never mind your politics its just a great show to watch
THIS was great writing. One of the best episodes ever.
This truly wonderful Television Series; and this inspirational section elevates humanity to what we should aspire to…. every single damn day .
Brilliant writing; wonderful acting and inspiring ensemble piece.
Thanks for sharing 🌹
That's right... Bartlett knows everything about everything but he and Leo didn't know that..
Every time I try to watch this segment about a grandchild with Autism and his grandfather, surprisingly something falls into my eyes.
I love when Bartlett is high on sugar!
The hero shot at 3:00 of Martin Sheen is just outstanding.
Probably one of my favorite scenes in this entire series.
One of the best shows that they did there are a few other that top it, but this one really had a human factor
Keep coming back... Excellent, most excellent television!
Do NOT mess with grand parents
For as brilliant as this scene is I find it hard to believe no one in that room was forced to watch Mr. Smith Goes to Washington in junior high social studies or government. Thirty years and it's one of the few things I remember from that whole lesson. You can yield for a question.
I love this episode. It gives me goosebumps every time I watch it.
This is so Capraesque, reminiscent of "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington."
This brings tears to my eyes every damn time.
Me too especially since I have autism. Wish someone like Stackhouse really existed
1:04 - Oh Donnatella...😄
3:55 - Oh Donnatella part two 😄😆
One of my VERY favorite episodes.
One of my favorite scenes.
I've watched this a countless times and I've never not cried. So beautifully written.
I knew from the episode about the hurricane and the little tender. When the President took over talking the radioman who had been hurt but continued to do his job. And the President told him he’d stay as long he was talking(to paraphrase). I knew then this would be a hell of a series and loved it ever since.