Legacy of the Nogai Horde (Victoria 2 Stories) 2/2

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • The second part of this insane story of the Nogai Horde, its hugbox, its enemies, and the insane experimental mod features we're all playing with. At the end of Part 1, the Nogai Horde (but mainly its allies: Poland-Lithuania, Hungary and Bohemia) had pushed Muscovy right up against the ropes, and held off the intervention of Scandinavia and Burgundy who tried to save the poor Russians from their surrounded fate. What will be the result and aftermath of this hugbox and partition? This episode features MUCH MORE brilliant salt and arguments as the dust settles from the war.
    Playing the Dual Monarchy in this campaign, I will finally get involved in events instead of being a spectator. At least a little bit. Will those two alliances formed in part 1 stay together, or will there be tensions? How will the Nogai Horde, unprecedented to have this country played in multiplayer, progress? Will they form Tatarstan?
    A disaster that happened to me on the Dual Monarchy is alluded to in this video. To see the awful catastrophe that happened, plus a few other hilarious things from the session, check out the deleted scenes video (5 minutes) here if you'd like to become a Patreon: / 39880434 (also, if you use superchat in my streams, I will note you and if you contact me on Discord after doing that, I will show you.)
    The game session for this happened quite a while ago, as of when I'm uploading it. The campaign was so bad I just forgot about it and left the footage in a folder, but after reminiscing on the campaign in a voice chat, I remembered it, and realised this story was actually hilarious, and I'm glad I did. (this was actually played on 9th November 2019) I can't let the fact that it's old prevent this hilarious session finally seeing the light of day.
    Part 1 (watch this first if you haven't): • The Nogai Horde Hugbox...
    More funny Victoria 2 multiplayer stories: • Victoria 2 Stories (Mu...
    The old infamous mod version which contains the Officers, download here for your experimental and curiosity purposes: github.com/God... The officers, as they were, were removed in the next version due to overwhelming demand and ridicule. The current iteration of this DoD multiplayer balance mod is pretty much unused and inactive now. There were many other crazy experimental features that we had to deal with, which we may see in the future. I also mention in this video that the mod contains revanchism changes: Revanchism is a stat that increases with the more cored territory you lose, and in the mod, this stat increases your soldier POP cap, and gives bigger mobilisation. So, if you lose land, you actually get stronger to bounce back.
    Background information on Divergences mod (map, lore) - original pdx forum thread: forum.paradoxp...
    Starring:
    Nogai Horde: Bad Frank
    Muscovy: Gota
    Scandinavia: Nurse Reno
    Poland-Lithuania: Fat Guy
    Hungary: Strategy Gamer
    Bohemia: Loco
    Burgundy: Dronite
    Mod maker and GM: God of Cheese (Aragon)
    Dual Monarchy: me
    Some irrelevant American country: Blase (just spectating)
    Spamming the chat because he doesn't have a microphone: KevinG (Venice)
    Music in order of appearance:
    “Harbingers” - Atilla Total War soundtrack
    “Lacrimosa” - Mozart
    “Fiddler of the plains” - Atila Total War soundtrack
    Sonata no. 8 2nd movement “Pathéthique” - Beethoven
    “Bring Me To Life” orchestral version - • Evanescence - Bring Me...
    Empire total war battle soundtrack
    Oldenburg national anthem - • Video
    “Calm 1” March of the Eagles soundtrack
    “Investigations” - Kevin MacLeod
    Hell March (briefly)
    Nocturne in B major, Op. 32 No. 1 CHOPIN
    “The Will of Tengri” - Attila: Total war soundtrack
    Please don’t insult any of the people who star in my videos. They are just guys having fun playing Victoria 2. In the videos, there is banter, arguments about the game, and jokes. It’s all in good fun, and it does not warrant any harsh insults from viewers.
    My Discord: / discord
    My Patreon: / spudgunofficial
    Interested in joining Victoria 2 multiplayer? I’ve got links to several Victoria 2 communities in my discord.

Komentáře • 192

  • @volcelraptor3983
    @volcelraptor3983 Před 4 lety +487

    Scandi just sooking for 4 hours straight. Must be a tough session for anyone in that voip channel.

    • @nastychatrat7899
      @nastychatrat7899 Před 4 lety +25

      @Dwarov 1 shut up your acting like a pussy cause you wanted to gank Muscovy too

    • @testtube70
      @testtube70 Před 3 lety +26

      @@nastychatrat7899 Hi Reno.

  • @zach3242
    @zach3242 Před 4 lety +354

    The salt from Scandi is just beautiful.

  • @ElSayyidCampeador
    @ElSayyidCampeador Před 4 lety +249

    Damn, Reno really gonna break rules cause he was upset that powers aligned against him, That is really game ruining. Bohemia explained it all pretty well in his wall of text as a defensible action to me

    • @JPEG785
      @JPEG785 Před 4 lety +14

      Imagine reading all of that.

    • @DilsGaming
      @DilsGaming Před 4 lety +66

      @@JPEG785 imagine having more than two brain cells being able to read it. he gave a good in depth analysis on why he joined

    • @nnon_existantt
      @nnon_existantt Před 3 lety +4

      that wasnt fair and that giant hugbox war shouldve been against the rules. they cheesed the game. spud even says the rules fell short

    • @nnon_existantt
      @nnon_existantt Před 3 lety

      @@JudeLind lmao that was a joke right?

    • @nnon_existantt
      @nnon_existantt Před 3 lety +4

      @@JudeLind reno is always a bitch 1st of all

  • @przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332

    "this game didn't go like every other game and therefore it's over" is a bad mentality for Vic 2.

    • @freddo9682
      @freddo9682 Před 4 lety +1

      @Dwarov 1 Maybe, but that have nothing to do with Scandi

    • @przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332
      @przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332 Před 4 lety +32

      @Dwarov 1How did that break the game though? It seemed to me that it added a lot of interesting diplomacy, and had the potential to make a very interesting game. What seemed to kill this game in particular was the fact people kept leaving.

    • @cryed0
      @cryed0 Před 4 lety +16

      @Dwarov 1 did you see the ending? Revanchism is the god tier buff for muscovy which kept plc pinned against them for the entire fucking game. If muscovy scandi and burgundy tried again id reckon that they could destroy the hugbox (if burgundy wasnt incompetent and scandi didnt lose his shit)

    • @przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332
      @przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332 Před 4 lety +29

      @Dwarov 1 They didn't kill Russia, they killed Muscovy, in a mod where it is far from assured that Russia will form. Scandi even said himself that he had plans to kill Muscovy. There is no stipulation in Vic 2 that any certain nation needs to exist, or be a gp, and in an mp there will always be players to fill the power vacuum. No Russia? Guess the other gp's have more to compete over.

    • @Damo2690
      @Damo2690 Před 4 lety +1

      @@przemysawkrzekobrzegoszczy6332 Yeah more AI to carve up for the whole of the campaign. What you are descrbing is great for single player, not for multi

  • @r.speirs
    @r.speirs Před 3 lety +55

    Hilarious how Nurse Reno cries in later videos about rule breaking…

  • @lowtierwaifu
    @lowtierwaifu Před 4 lety +202

    I laughed when Loco* started accusing Scandi of not being a professional Victoria 2 player
    *(Edit: corrected who challenged Scandinavia's professionalism, thanks George)

    • @georgebarsan5890
      @georgebarsan5890 Před 4 lety +33

      I believe that was Bohemia, but yeah, it's always funny when Loco gets mad

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann Před 4 lety +4

      I mean that is not a professional profile pic
      Same logic NGL I'm serious when I say this professional Victoria 2 players really don't exist just vic 2 fan boys.

    • @kroebear6377
      @kroebear6377 Před 3 lety +4

      Nurse reno (Scandi) is known for his guides and general knowledge of the game

  • @elijahmiles9368
    @elijahmiles9368 Před 4 lety +309

    Rigid metas get old. People like Bad Frank, who are willing to change things up, keep decade-old games interesting. Hope to see more stuff like this! (minus the hugboxing maybe)

    • @evilsorosfundedgovernments433
      @evilsorosfundedgovernments433 Před 4 lety +29

      Hugboxing is bad but experimenting with countries previously thought to be unviable is good.

    • @pimppimpproductions6497
      @pimppimpproductions6497 Před 3 lety +16

      Playing new nations is cool, frank didn’t do anything wrong it’s the Bohemia and Hungary players who made the alliance a hug box

  • @dronite0019
    @dronite0019 Před 4 lety +112

    Funny how Burgundy even after my horrible micro in the first war ended up the most stable and prosperous nation by the end of the game. If anyone noticed lanfang talking shit in the chat, have no worries, they were eventually conquered.

    • @Supperrman
      @Supperrman Před 4 lety +14

      Based Spanish-Dual Monarchy-Burgundian control over Asia

    • @dronite0019
      @dronite0019 Před 4 lety +1

      Marl Karx me and dual monarchy hugboxed

  • @kaigamer8250
    @kaigamer8250 Před 4 lety +36

    lol, Reno got mad salty.

  • @dan09672
    @dan09672 Před 4 lety +132

    Please mix up the meta spud. With players playing new and different nations with varied endgames it changes the alliance dynamics. allowing more interesting and new situations. Also nogai should be able to form the golden hoard imo, which could be a good sub for Russia in game.

    • @frosum179
      @frosum179 Před 4 lety +13

      Nogai can form Tartarstan which is basically Golden Horde.

    • @dan09672
      @dan09672 Před 4 lety +7

      @@frosum179 ah yes that is very true. I was thinking more late game with the ability to reform the Mongol empire or something like eu4 with golden horde.

    • @frosum179
      @frosum179 Před 4 lety +7

      @@dan09672 Well, they can core and get the central Asian pops as accepted cultures which is pretty close.

    • @dan09672
      @dan09672 Před 4 lety

      @@frosum179 ahh i see, i didn't know that lol. Well yeah tartarstan is a good sub for Russia then, though likely more limited due to development and base pop of accepted cultures. Still I stand that the meta should be mixed up as stated in my first comment/post

  • @evilmurlock
    @evilmurlock Před 4 lety +43

    Poland did not get "nothing", he literaly just deleted one of his biggest rivals and got a loyal ally in his place. (probably loyal, am typing this at 2:11) I would not complain if I was in his place.
    edit: Aha, the same was writen in the essey.

  • @Supperrman
    @Supperrman Před 4 lety +32

    Atleast I (as Spain) put GoC (Aragon) in his place later in the game for making this abomination of a mod.

    • @SpudgunOfficial
      @SpudgunOfficial  Před 4 lety +12

      Come to think of it, was that why he put in the insane straits for Aragon?

    • @Supperrman
      @Supperrman Před 4 lety +2

      @@SpudgunOfficial That's possible. He didn't build a navy at all in this game, so I was able to isolate his troops in North Africa several times.

  • @MrTorchwoodify
    @MrTorchwoodify Před 4 lety +64

    10:27
    In Russian we're saying razocharovan,
    In French we say decu,
    I am disappointed in you.
    Beautiful.

  • @infinitehonkworks195
    @infinitehonkworks195 Před 4 lety +10

    reno's econ autism is great but he is truly an ankle biting salt gremlin otherwise

  • @joshuahellier4093
    @joshuahellier4093 Před 3 lety +4

    Man, that glitch with what I suppose is described in the history books as "The War of Generic Aggression" had me in stitches

  • @Juno_Colchis
    @Juno_Colchis Před 4 lety +17

    Frank is an agent of chaos and I love the energy he brings

  • @stirlingramsay
    @stirlingramsay Před 2 lety +2

    Whoa scandi out here with the gamer word

  • @trexthethird4622
    @trexthethird4622 Před 4 lety +5

    Spud justifying in Burgundy as soon as Scandi breaks the alliance off lmao

  • @rb_max2989
    @rb_max2989 Před 4 lety +132

    What’s a paradox mp game without someone being called the n-word?!

  • @evelyngravatt3198
    @evelyngravatt3198 Před 4 lety +5

    Well thank you sir you gone from making me cry because you were finally Victorious in Vicky2 to making me want to hang myself by my teeth listening to the Salt spewed by Scandinavia

  • @robert9016
    @robert9016 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Just now internalised that Spud was called an n-word by Scandi in this video. True all-timer.

  • @keyonhutson1539
    @keyonhutson1539 Před 4 lety +5

    A G R E S S I O N

  • @thetruedetective7980
    @thetruedetective7980 Před 4 lety +14

    It's so funny that Spudgun has painted over the player's nicknames and countries on the menu but at the end of video it's not painted over and essentially seen.

    • @SpudgunOfficial
      @SpudgunOfficial  Před 4 lety +10

      I only hid the list one time because someone's username was unsavoury

  • @doodleguy9491
    @doodleguy9491 Před rokem

    The dramatic dual monarchy series

  • @jumperwilli7770
    @jumperwilli7770 Před 4 lety +2

    The essay part killed me lmao, I love bohemia

  • @tyisen5125
    @tyisen5125 Před 4 lety +4

    Chad Tatar-Kipchaks

  • @noneofyourbusiness9489
    @noneofyourbusiness9489 Před 4 lety +6

    I love how you always go the extra mile like adding the Oldenburg national anthem. I wouldn't have even imagined they had one.

  • @Fourbix
    @Fourbix Před 4 lety +4

    Seeing how Scandinavia is acting, Poland should have kept the alliance with Nogai and justified a CB on the baltic coast i mean scandinavia was going to become a rival anyways.

  • @Newbmann
    @Newbmann Před 4 lety +13

    I'm fine with switching things up from time to time as long as there relatively the same power in the region IE which is not something that leaves many options
    More possible though I'm fine with players on different areas from time to time Like I would love to see a reddit Balkan battleground in vic 2 if you can make it stable.

  • @DJTe3n
    @DJTe3n Před 4 lety +1

    I’m here for you playing D-M honestly

  • @adamsmurf3811
    @adamsmurf3811 Před 4 lety +2

    HE NEVER MISSES

  • @Elsneakakaze
    @Elsneakakaze Před 4 lety +4

    Please continue to use the MGGMMM sound effect its so good. 5:17

  • @thetruedetective7980
    @thetruedetective7980 Před 4 lety +8

    In Russian we're saying разочарован
    истинный полиглот, нечего добавить

  • @themohobo123
    @themohobo123 Před 4 lety

    It's rare that I see editing this good

  • @RunicRhino22
    @RunicRhino22 Před 2 lety +1

    10:33 Desu? Did I hear someone say Desu? I heard someone say Desu.

  • @konstantinmilyutin1190
    @konstantinmilyutin1190 Před 4 lety +12

    "Poland's being a bitсh for no reason"
    Thats kinda historically plausible

  • @loge7358
    @loge7358 Před 3 lety +1

    Mr. Game Health himself ruining game health. lol.

  • @FirstNameLastName-hb1fl
    @FirstNameLastName-hb1fl Před 4 lety +1

    When you start a partition on a player with a 4-player HUgBox just to take all the land for yourself and you don’t even join the next game I mean what a pice of shit to do that to someone and then not even show up the next session .

  • @williamadams9682
    @williamadams9682 Před 4 lety +7

    Scandinavia rolled like a 0 on charisma in the character creator. Try hards like that don't last long in my EU4 multiplayer groups.

  • @ZoomerReal
    @ZoomerReal Před 4 lety +7

    Yo what was Reno about to say 5:15

  • @powershiftffs
    @powershiftffs Před 4 lety +1

    Episode was so good, I even subscribed after a long time of just watching

  • @ikerd7182
    @ikerd7182 Před 4 lety +2

    RIP Nurse Reno

  • @qtarokujod3401
    @qtarokujod3401 Před 4 lety +2

    Reno couldn't spear bohemia and PLC, so made fun from the GM instead

  • @sebsauve34
    @sebsauve34 Před 4 lety +2

    reno is such a baby

  • @tarekm9110
    @tarekm9110 Před 4 lety +1

    Bad Frank is a fucking chad

  • @brencmrn
    @brencmrn Před 4 lety +1

    haha great video as always

  • @khengisgahn9607
    @khengisgahn9607 Před 4 lety +1

    very very nice

  • @thesandman9377
    @thesandman9377 Před 2 lety

    This situation is one where the response (assuming kicking Reno wasn't possible) would be to have everyone else go in on him with separate wars to completely destroy his nation and remove him from the game that way. If he complains, point at his own repeated flagrant breaking of the rules.

  • @zaikolebolsh5724
    @zaikolebolsh5724 Před 4 lety +1

    The NoGai horde, the home of the patriarchy :^)

  • @genderbender6958
    @genderbender6958 Před 4 lety +1

    Scandinavian "he's fucking useless" does nothing but lose Provence's this game.

  • @kektuss
    @kektuss Před 3 lety +1

    AGRESSION

  • @dropbear8579
    @dropbear8579 Před 4 lety

    The great salt mines of Scandinavia

  • @prankmanxd9650
    @prankmanxd9650 Před 4 lety +13

    nogai is hella thicc
    nevermind

  • @epicgamerman420
    @epicgamerman420 Před 4 lety +1

    you should use total war Attila soundtrack for nogai it's amazing, just listen to the menu song

  • @miklinburgmapper2352
    @miklinburgmapper2352 Před 4 lety +4

    like for russian words. а также отличное видео!

  • @geoDB.
    @geoDB. Před rokem +1

    I thought you could upgrade units to officer corps always in vanilla and that I just didn't know about it.

    • @geoDB.
      @geoDB. Před rokem

      Like why would it show the soldier pop icon there if you couldn't change it?

  • @wadododododod
    @wadododododod Před 4 lety

    It would be great if you could form Idel-Ural as Nogai Horde or Tatarstan.

  • @SexyHairyMan
    @SexyHairyMan Před 4 lety +2

    Different feel from the rest of your series due to the meme influx that serve as a comedic replacement to the stories you make. Different but hilarious

  • @samuelowen6620
    @samuelowen6620 Před 4 lety +1

    Officer contribute to general point or what ever its call so throwing them into battle makes it harder to get generals but one reality better generals arise from conflicts

  • @pixelcat5159
    @pixelcat5159 Před 4 lety

    I sincerely hope Tatarstan becomes more common in these games, as well as other lesser touched nations for the sake of diversity and entertainment value

  • @georgebarsan5890
    @georgebarsan5890 Před 4 lety +2

    Let's go

  • @alemalvi3805
    @alemalvi3805 Před 3 lety +4

    I am legit stopping to watch this video for how much scandi is pissing me off

  • @AtomicSpeedFT
    @AtomicSpeedFT Před 3 lety

    This sounded painful

  • @daverino2577
    @daverino2577 Před 4 lety +1

    1:52 lmao

  • @user-pe3cf5px3k
    @user-pe3cf5px3k Před 4 lety +8

    Он разочарован.

  • @natestarkovich4893
    @natestarkovich4893 Před 4 lety

    Really never expected so many hard r’s from a bunch of ppl who play 1800’s map games😂😂

  • @oretan2126
    @oretan2126 Před 4 lety

    quality content

  • @AtomicSpeedFT
    @AtomicSpeedFT Před 4 lety

    Poor Muscovy

  • @jonoscotto
    @jonoscotto Před 4 lety +1

    can we PLEASE get more bad frank

  • @Gardstyle35
    @Gardstyle35 Před 3 lety +1

    is tatartistan any strong though? do they get cores, accepted pops etc?

    • @SpudgunOfficial
      @SpudgunOfficial  Před 3 lety +3

      they have cores and accepted pops on Tatar and Crimean areas. It's not great

  • @Uberkatze-
    @Uberkatze- Před 4 lety +3

    Bohemia
    >NOOOOOO THAT'S LITERALLY AGAINST THE RULES!!!!!!
    Scandinavia
    >Yes

  • @jeffchynk5420
    @jeffchynk5420 Před 4 lety

    What's with the province selector? What is it used for?

  • @sesameoil0009
    @sesameoil0009 Před 4 lety

    Poland got a a weak Muscovy, bruh moment

  • @BanditsLair
    @BanditsLair Před 2 lety

    Scandinavia seething and crying for hours holy fucking shit this is hard to watch

  • @Icedrake201
    @Icedrake201 Před 3 lety

    Bad Frank was the only hero in this game.

  • @aipkjbf
    @aipkjbf Před 2 lety +1

    Reno is right.

  • @pimppimpproductions6497
    @pimppimpproductions6497 Před 3 lety +2

    N word counter 3
    1. 5:16
    2. 10:04
    3. 10:13

  • @xeldronx
    @xeldronx Před 4 lety +1

    Scandi was awful.
    Nogai should be playable if the player who picks it up understands the difficulty of it. I'm surprised BadFrank didn't stay on it and continue milking the salt mines just for existing.

  • @Hiro1oo1
    @Hiro1oo1 Před 4 lety

    What was the purpose of the officers anyway?

  • @Zorro9129
    @Zorro9129 Před 4 lety +1

    When you mentioned that Poland and Hungary got nothing you should have used that clip from Willy Wonka.
    Also despite all that trouble and a promisingly interesting game Tatarstan didn't rejoin? What a waste.

  • @noodle_boy
    @noodle_boy Před 4 lety

    How do I join a game?

  • @Pronessboss
    @Pronessboss Před 3 lety +1

    I don't get why there was so much outcry, it seems simple to me on why Bohemia, PLC, and Nogai would want to ally. Bohemia needs a strong PLC to help counter others like Scandi and Burgundy, PLC's best interest is no Russia forming, and Nogai would just want to survive (also form Tartarstan). Seems reasonable to me and a good change of pace

  • @kata_zonda
    @kata_zonda Před 4 lety +2

    That scandi player was... something. Not something good :v

  • @Ben-qs9fw
    @Ben-qs9fw Před 4 lety

    10:01 why the hell does Poland own part of Turkey?

  • @matthias5651
    @matthias5651 Před 4 lety

    Can you post Bohemia’s essay in the comments?

  • @keystone_x1
    @keystone_x1 Před 4 lety +1

    French kid gets bullied by the Reno is so funny

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 Před 4 lety

    Based

  • @catlandddd4660
    @catlandddd4660 Před 4 lety +2

    hi

  • @mrwindchimes8020
    @mrwindchimes8020 Před 4 lety +3

    Brasil

  • @crafter6415
    @crafter6415 Před 3 lety

    Nurse Reno is always right. Can’t believe some people won’t understand that.

  • @ericr.malice318
    @ericr.malice318 Před 4 lety +3

    Hope Scandi got banned from future games.

  • @user-vi1zy3hs1r
    @user-vi1zy3hs1r Před 4 lety

    Хээээй, не знал, что тот, кто играл за Речь Посполитую русский

    • @Supperrman
      @Supperrman Před 4 lety

      он на Богемии играл

  • @thatguy6919
    @thatguy6919 Před 4 lety +2

    Says you're inept after losing a war to nogai horde, and backing down to your demands and bitching all game, and saying the game is over in 1837. Proceeds to alienates everyone in the game, cheat, brag about it and lose wars. Oh Butch, if only you knew what irony meant.

  • @g.r.senterprisevenatorclas7314

    All sides were pretty scummy here, but I sympathize with Muscovy the most. Scandi could have handled it better though I do kinda like what he did.

  • @giovylm7241
    @giovylm7241 Před 4 lety +8

    I'm g onna say that if there are rules, those must be followed, if it was for me at the place of PLC or DM I would had left the game instantly .... Ok it's a game but certain moves pisses me off 😒😒

    • @giovylm7241
      @giovylm7241 Před 4 lety +2

      And one more thing, SPOILER ALERT !
      For me PLC should keep the hug box with Nogai and Bohemia, if there is one to not trust is Scandi and his shenanigans

  • @Gabriel-pn4wd
    @Gabriel-pn4wd Před 4 lety

    The poland player does not represent all the french

  • @xxxxxxxsnorlax
    @xxxxxxxsnorlax Před 4 lety

    5:17 censored n-word?

  • @TurboFly07
    @TurboFly07 Před 3 lety +5

    The Scandinavian player should be banned out of principle. Continuously breaking the rules, knowing those rules were in place, whilst facing no consequence, de-legitimizes the whole structure of play. How can anyone take rules seriously if there are no consequences? what's the point in even having rules then? Basic sociology dictates he should be removed from these sessions indefinitely.

    • @TurboFly07
      @TurboFly07 Před 3 lety +1

      @Milo The Orange ah. Thanks for the context. That's a shame.. I hope the community works out for Spud. Obviously that's a pretty shitty situation to be in.

  • @another505
    @another505 Před 2 lety +1

    nurse reno is the worst kind of player to play with, but also goc is a weak gm...

  • @temsastoryteller8803
    @temsastoryteller8803 Před 4 lety +1

    Oh maaaan, very разочарован by this game.