Mike Portnoy talks about leaving Dream Theater with Eddie Trunk Interview Part 1
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Friday September 10th, 2010, Eddie Trunk's exclusive interview with Mike Portnoy on leaving Dream Theater
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As a guitarist, MP is one of the few drummers whose music I actually listen to to hear the drumming...I rank Mike right up there with Neil Peart.
Oh, good lord.
As a lifelong fan of DT and Mike Portnoy, I would like to say that personally, I miss MP. When I watched the Testimony 2 Live video - The Neal Morse Band - with Mike at the drum kit, I got chills remembering how special he was with DT. Finally after a couple years without him as the drummer for DT, I can admit I enjoyed his playing more than Mangini (nothing against him), but I do think DT has grown some with Mangini, a sort of new direction. But for my money, the best Dream Theater albums were the first few, and climaxed with Scenes From A Memory. Just my own observation and humble opinion.
+Vai Fan I agree wholeheartedly with you. Black Clouds was the peak of DT especially the production side of it (which was always credited to Mike) and I've just not been able to get into any of the new stuff with Mangini. He's talented, no doubt, but there's something about the founders of bands leaving that is transparent in the sounds and over all feel.
I love "The Count Of Tuscany" most of all on that CD. Perfect song for the last track. I still go back to Awake, Images & Words, Change Of Seasons....all that stuff had feel.
"the last thing i ever wanted to see was a Dream Theater without Mike Portnoy in it."- Mike Portnoy
a trick : you can watch series at Flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies recently.
@Gannon Graysen Yup, been using flixzone} for years myself :D
@@santiagocassius775 Flixzone? Ha! I just can't live without it
Just noticed that Part 1 of this interview has more than three times the views than Part 2.
Goes to show you how society is content on hearing small pieces or doses of stories and not at all interested in the whole picture. Of course viewers probably didn't have the patience to listen to the whole thing, they probably didn't even listen to all of Part 1, but if you're a DT fan, you really should listen to the whole thing. Great interview Eddie - still think MIke Mangini has done a great job.
Dream theater is best with or without him. I don't think now dream theater is worse just because he is not there, music changes, our test of music changes and musicians changes as well.
I agree with Portnoy. A break probably do them good. Everyone gets some rest and with 4 years of song ideas to mix into one album, you get much better potential of a killer album. It's just one of those things. Hopefully they will reunite someday.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm not angry at Mike, I'm more angry at DT because they didn't want to respect the wishes of their leader/best friend. It's like anything else, you get burned out with a vicious cycle of touring and recording. especially if it's been the same for 20+ years. I will always support Mike because he didn't do anything wrong. As for DT, Im pissed at everyone except for Jordan. But anything Mike does I will purchase as for DT not so much. Take care.
Four years is a long time when we only live around 70-80 years at best. Half of those being the best for creativity. He goofed up, that's all. Life goes on.
he's in my eyes the best and most creative drummer but that he leaves dreamtheater is breaking my heart ... i don't know how to feel right now
how do you feel now? :P
please come back mike.
I'm actually really glad he made this decision in retrospect, he was right. Dream Theater's music hasn't lived up to their earlier stuff and really hasn't been the same since Portnoy left which is not a knock on Mangini who's an amazing drummer. On the flip side, the stuff he and Neal have put out over the last 10 years together have been some of the finest prog of the decade so all things considered, I'll take the content from Transatlantic, Neal Morse Band and Flying Colors over what probably would have been a newer fresher Dream Theater sound if they had taken a break.
Even tho MP is my all time favourite drummer, I can't wait to see what DT has in store with a new drummer. It kinda felt like MP was owning the band, and it's gonna be cool to see what they come up with, with a new inspiration in the band that comes in with new and fresh ideas.
Well... how do you feel now?
@@SebaProgre They moved on to create epic stuff that will be listened to forever. But hearing JPs solo album with MP on it, I realized just how much I'm missing him.
I like them better now. Just an all around better band now.
PLEASE MIKE, COME BACK!!!! :'-(
It's interesting that since leaving ha had only positive messages from JP and JR... isn't that wierd? I think he might have had some personal issues with Labrie and maby with Myung. This theory might be confirmed by the fact that quite recently Labrie said that he doesn't regret Mike leaving and he canno't see him coming back to band... I mean really James?
Mike and James most likely had some issues when he was still in the band, it was more apparent after he left when James stated in an interview that there is no longer someone hogging the spotlight and that he (James) is now the undisputed frontman of DT. There is another interview where he mentions Petrucci, Myung and even Kevin Moore being huge contributors to DT's early days but does not mention Mike (almost on purpose), so there's definitely some kind of rift between the two. Not sure about MP and JM though, it's hard to know what JM is thinking at any given time lol. Anyway, I hope they resolve their issues, they have been bandmates for 20+ years.
liheng89 James sucks and he is doing this since 1998....
They'd do better with a new vocalist then without Mike
DT wanted an album now, Mike wanted a couple years... there was room for compromise. But I can understand being tired of the same songs, cooped up with the same guys that you hardly talk to anymore... a break would have been great for DT and I wish they'd done it. But the band realizes there's a shelf life... even with their skills they're near the age when things deteriorate, and JLB will be the first to go. I can see their urgency, though I wish they'd had a few more meetings before deciding.
i can honestly say i don't think any band break up/separation whatever you want to call it will ever be more significant to me. i'll never forget the wave of emotions that hit me when i saw mike's post i almost felt like crying. on a positive note i think it is only a matter of time (no pun intended) that mike WILL return one day and they will create an amazing album and the following tour will be incredible.
This didn't age well. Fuck Mike Mangini
are you sure about that?@@Lazman2634
@@Lazman2634 I guess this aged poorly
i can't believe this... i've listened systematic chaos and black clouds and silver linings for days, crying...
Good to hear that John and Jordan sent a nice email.
I was shocked that they all let him go.
But either way i will still follow DT and MP for sure.
Damn and JP should have taken this opp. to make another solo album
The last one is freaking awesome!
Oh well =/
I hate it when original members leave. The bands never quite recover and no matter how hard they try to mimic it the sound is never the same. It's still awkward seeing Trujillo in MetallicA. I discovered Evile late and loved their lead guitarist only to find out he quit. No need to even discuss GnR without Slash.
I guess the only exception is Van Halen since they had a pretty successful era with Hagar, and I actually prefer Hagar over Roth.
He is back in DT. Great news. Mike Mangini is unreal drummer. He is amazing but Mike Portnoy is so large part of DT
He’s back!😀😀😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I agree. I mean i would love to take a year, maybe even 2 years. But 5 years off is just WAY too much. If MP would have said "Lets take 1 year off", I bet the rest of the band would have agreed, and MP would still be with Dream Theater
@shadowdude8466 I really think that coming back is a worst decision than leaving. It gives him this persona that everyone is just gonna get down to their knees and wait for whenever he's ready.
The new drummer is going to be Thomas Pridgen. It will be the first black guy in DT
Damn.. I cannot believe this happened more than 2 years ago. I remember reading the news that Mike left DT and having my jaw literally drop. Seems like only a few weeks ago really.
Absolute Heartbreaker..
Had they listened to Mike and taken a break, Dream Theater would possible still have been a good band today.
I kinda feel the same way. Mike seems to have an intuition with band dynamics that's almost superhuman. Plus, if one of the founding members of something who is also a crucial part of its operation expresses the desire to take a break, don't you owe it to them to at least consider it? From what I understand they were all like "no we ain't stopping, not negotiable. Get your ass in the studio or we'll find someone else". Well, they paid a heavy price.
I agree.
show must go on...with or without Mike..sad but true !!!
What happened to the door is always open?
i love d.t. just as much as ever. yes i think you can hear the difference but i think thats because mangini brings new elements. these elements i think allow the band to do things in a more supportive way, or open minded way. not saying m.p. was a control freak but i do question why such a difference in what they produce now and all i come up with is that d.t. perhaps has been wanting to do more of what they have done with mangini. but not many bands could lose a drummer of m.p.'s level and come back with a grammy nomination. that speaks volume of the band as a whole, not a individual. but because the talent level runs so deep and music mastery is a must to be in d.t., the band has proven they can prevail when a member leaves for whatever reason. james isn't the original singer, jordan isn't the original keyboardist, mangini isn't the original drummer. this is the john's band and the fact they have endured and grew their fan base nonetheless, again, speaks volume of just what it means to be in dream theater. i mean mangini cried when he earned the right to join the band!
original member is always good than a new member
It's a very weird breakup. I would like to know what would happen if a member would have a substance abuse problem and they would need to go to rehab? I know that's not what happened, but when a band member needs a break, they need a break. Imagine if James Hetfield didn't take a break and detox? But I don't agree bands that take breaks come back with better music. St Anger was Metalllica's worst album, right? Some bands take a break and that's the end of them.
That's why he had to make 12 step suite :D They didn't gave him a break at all :D
Mike portnoy in dt has given us 25 years of musical bliss so it pisses me off that people are quick to prosecute him for trying to do something fresh! it ain't the end of the world! but in my opinion dt should take a break! that would give john pettrucci time to make a new solo album then reunite bigger and better than ever!
look forward to seeing what MP will do next and what DT will do next.
All things come to pass.....
Thanks for sharing, musicmanplayer31!
Wow, I just learned he left DT ... sad, sad day ...
mike portnoy has a point , i know the feeling we get when listening to all the good albums they made , but 25 years is a long time ... u have to understand and mangini could never replace portnoy
This actually sounds a lot like MP and JP's interview in Chaos in Motion.
@groundhog713 He's not staying with A7x. He's finishing up the touring cycles and everything, then he's off to do something else and they find a new drummer.
@AquinasofAwesome Thats exactly what he plans but the question is: will the band take him back? though it seems they will there's now knowing who will replace him and how they will feel about it. only time will tell.
He wanted a break , he quit then when A7x said “ no mike “ he begged Dt to come back
why do all these people hate on mike now hes still a kick ass drummer and he says he needed a break he still didnt want to quit so just stop saying you hate him
Here its the question that no one does who will replace him at DT? i dont have many manes to said one, and im saying could be on the list Aquiles Priester....any other name?
@kswiridow I don't think so. Petrucci would have fired LaBrie if he had to. Plus to find a good metal singer is quite easy right now. The problem was not recording another DT album from January '11 either. IMHO, the problem was the very demanding touring schedule that comes after the release of a new album. MP is obviously tired with very long touring.
mike dont worry man we'll keep supporting you whatever you do :)
@Nishiki2407 Agreed - but aside from that, he will be back within 5 years, guaranteed. So I look at this positively. We get to hear a new, fresh DT (without hopefully more lyrics from LaBrie and a little twist on the music with a new drummer). We also get to hear what Portnoy works on. But he will be back. In the meantime we get the rare chance to hear a lot of cool things that will be out soon.
This didn’t age well.
theyll get back together one day bigger and better mike portnoy is just too good of a guy =]
@groundhog713
He went to help A7X out because the Rev died and they needed a drummer for the tour. Didn't you listen? He's not staying with them. When Uproar ended, he said he was gonna finish up with them. He has enough money from 25 years with Dream Theater that he doesn't need to get the big gigs. Just another side project. Like slipknots lead singer playing for Stone Sour. Heard them too.
@juno0890 But that's the reason i dont understand. He's not going on vacation or quited because he missed the family (Clive Burr did that, if you like Iron maiden you know what i,m talking about), he quited because he doesn't want to play with dream theater and record a new album, he said that. He's on tour now with A7X what means he isn't quitting for family reasons. But i admit, play on DT must be hard as hell lol.
ps: blame playstation 3 for my bad english, he's my teacher :)
DT have completed player Mike
When I miss MP
I listen early album DT
dream theater R.I.P
I honestly believe Portnoy thought that DT couldn't possibly do it without him and therefore would agree to taking the break he wanted. When it became obvious that wasn't going to be the case, he asked back in the band and was rejected. I love DT with Portnoy and I love them with Mangini. They sound different obviously, they are very different players. Mangini composes drums in a more music way and I really like what it sounds like !!!
The only one not sad was LaBrie
After 25 years It must have been strange leaving a band you started as a teenager.
It's really boring af having to play any music for years even with prog musos. I've played in 15 bands in about 10 genres over 20 years lol.
A part of my life has just DIED! :'(
In retrospect he made the right choice.
tough to hear...
Clearly not because he said that he tried to compromise by suggesting that and they weren't interested. No one's to blame here. These things happen.
but the boys said that the door is always open for him and mike said he will be back to DT but not now.. so no worries because he will be back
6cyclestone when was that
money..money...money...
theyll get back together one day bigger and better
That did not aged well
Man I miss Mike in the band. The albums since are pretty good, not nearly as good though as when MP was in the band. MM is amazing but is almost like too good, there not much groove or feel there I find. I hope he reunited with them someday but sadly I don't think that will ever happen :(
It sounds more like he got fired and was given the chance to say he quit....
I blame James. I think he was the problem.
@irwin3036able Marco Minnemann is playing for Guthrie Govan currently I believe.
not 5 year just 1 year and you got a lot of music from Dream Theater to listening
Truth be told, if he were to cause a break in the Dream Theater epic journey, he would have broken my heart, and I would have lost my respect and appreciation for him forever, so I'm really glad things ended up this way. He did a pretty good job with Transatlantic and Flying Colors tho.
@BassGloS
you have no idea how much i love you right now.
plus, there's no other band that Mike can play with that will let him play to his full potential! A7X is going to confine him to 4/4 and 3/4, unless they happen to increase their own skill sevenfold*haha*within the next few months. Maybe Mike can teach them some things. Mike eventually HAS to go back to Dream Theater, maybe when he realizes that EVERY band has a record-tour-record cycle.
I think this is the beginning of the end of DT, but i hope not.
Winery Dogs live in concert
Full Winery Dogs Concert at Dog Camp (2nd show)
dream theter should have listened to mike, i think if they took 2 years off, omg when they would go back into the studio together from not playing for 2 years, amazing things would come out of that, and its a test to see if they got what it really take to be huge, and mike was right, they should have listend, take a break, and recharge, if they keep making an album every year or so, its going to sound like the same old stuff, give 2 years come back and it will all sound new again, DT will burn o
So he isnt back.....
John Lennon talks about DT without MIke?
This situation reminds me Chris degarmo a little bit, he was burned out, maybe with Tate maybe with the whole thing and wanted a break cause he came back for the Tribe sessions. I do miss portnoy in DT as much as Chris from Queensryche
think about mike not yourself... sincerely someone who understands that he was having a hard time... if you start not to enjoy what your doing you might as well stop for a while even if it means 5 years... let it be 5 years... than you get a even more precious album!
Just my take on things...
let's start a pool... I say he comes back july 2013
fun fact: he didn't come back
@@stefanosironi4856He was just 10 years off. Close call.
@24Saxman
6th best?!?! due, really? if youre going to give me names like Keith Moon and Neil Peart, then go home. Mike has surpassed them all, and in my opinion, is matched only by Navene Koperweis.
@qwertypoiu4321 Exactly, i mean it's not like they're going to lose any fans for going on a year's hiatus. If anything it's going build suspension and people will anticipate a new DT album. I know that NO other drummer can write like mike portnoy. He's a unique drummer, and I don't think anyone can fill his shoes.
DT won't be the same without Mike. In all seriousness, I'm sure DT was really hurt when Mike left.
I thought he was one of them, but now he left to join A7X. He left for the big-money gig. But you've got to pay the price for that. He's
going to be playing mediocre garbage when he could be playing the intelligent
and challenging stuff that DT plays. Where's the integrity in that?"
Mike Portnoy, we want u back in Dream Theater!!
I honestly think there's more to the story that they won't obviously tell us.
Of course there is, but since they're not telling us and people close to the band aren't.. we can but wonder! :).
I wouldn't be surprised if Portnoy said "it's either Labrie or me" and they chose Labrie. And then to save face, they agreed not to disclose that part.
@awesomeretardedvids I honestly think it will be ok. Mike might be a founding member, and an abslutely amazing drummer, but there's a lot of talented drummers out there, maybe even some unknowns waiting for their big break. If you look at the keyboard history, going from Moore to Sherinian to Ruddess was fine, and produced some great albums from each. So I'm sad but also excited to see and hear a change. I won't lie, I was never a fan of Mike's guttural singing, so I won't miss that. Prog on!
fun fact: your prediction is right
@ImmortalSpammer He was tired of DT and wanted a break.
Rush took a five year break albeit due to unfortunate circumstances, and they came back bigger than ever. I think the other guys were shortsighted on this and it's too bad, too bad for DT and fans. But Portnoy will survive.
@SpaceDetergentPM
Rather a new beginning for Dream Theater. Haven't you heard how MP has been controlling the ship, in some really wrong ways? The band will now feel free to add their will to the music, which I believe will bring the music to a really cool new level. It's not like the other guys don't know music or can't write music. They're all geniouses. Portnoy recently tried to rejoin, and I'm glad Dream Theater gave him the cold hand. And with that, I'm a big fan of Portnoy and his play
spot on
MIKE PORTNOY IS BAD ASS PERIOD NO MATTER WHERE HE IS HE WILL ROCK@@HELLMAN626
@AquinasofAwesome eventually he'll come back
@viejoloco69 you trollin'? Where did you hear that?!
Imo, i support Mike. He got every right as a person, husband, father and drummer to take a break. DT will and always be band i enjoy listening to. But leaving away from family can be easy for some and hard for others too. Money and fame cant buy that precious time.
Id thought DT could have at least give him some time out. At least i know after 12 to 15 years of studios,promos, world tours, clinics, interview and other music related convention, i def need some time out. Its disappointing for that a decade plus long he commits to it all.
Eventually wanting to take a break, he got the knife. I think thats not right. Mike Mangini is a real solid drummer. But DT i feel could only be DT with Portnoy.
Take a look at Korn(i know they come close to DT in terms of musicality). But when Head decides to rejoin, they accept it with open arms. I mean Head and Korn belongs to each other.
well the goodwill emails between mike and the guys didn't last long
@groundhog713 He even says that in this video. 9:28
This can’t be the reason. It was probably about money.
@BassGloS Thats seriously insulting.. let the man work, he doesn't need to be told he's wrong, i have no idea why you think you know what is right for him when you have probably never even met him. He knows what he's doing. I just ask that you don't insult him by telling him what to do when only he knows.
God will you all shut up about him leaving. It was a decision he thought long and hard about, and it was what he wanted and needed. You need to accept that. And you call yourself "fans"
@danimal97520
It's pretty official news. Check Mike Portnoy telling about himself.
On forum, website, facebook and multiple rock news (About the rejoin attempt)
@lolokiller2 I'm lucky to have seen them in Kavarna, Bulgaria with Portnoy but I also kinda felt like you when I learned he left DT :|
A band is very much like a marriage and just the same as a marriage if you feel after 25 years you need a break, it's over, you're obviously not satisfied. The other band members are happily married to it and even after all this time want to continue. Why take a break if you're happy, right? Mike was just tired of fucking them. Now he's blaming them and didn't he file a suit against them for using the name or some sad shit like that?
Its the same thing if Steve Harris quit Iron Maiden to play in Slipknot. What a shame, but its his choice and life must go on. So get out and give some other drummer the chance to do history. Did Ozzy ended when Randy died?? NO, and introduced to us 2 awesome new guitar players, so lets be optimist and support the other Dream theater members...
So, he wants the world to stop for 'x' amount of years while he does his thing? This isn't Genesis. I can't stand Dream Theatre's music, but they have a right to make a living. He wasn't thinking of the band, he was thinking of himself. This guy is his own biggest fan. However, the band was right if they wanted to start an album. Maybe now w/ Mangini, they'll actually be good.