Malcolm Gladwell explains why he avoids face-to-face job interviews | SVT/TV 2/Skavlan
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- Journalist and author Malcolm Gladwell talks about interactions with strangers and why it's important to not judge a book by its cover in this interview with Scandinavian talk show Skavlan.
Also present in the studio are football manager Sven-Göran Eriksson and handball player Nora Mørk.
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I wish we had shows like this in America. Real discussions with interesting people who have something to teach us. No one talking over each other. No one interrupting to make a stupid joke then cutting to a commercial break. This is how television should be.
I like the Commonwealth Club and Politics and Prose, plus the Joe Rogan show. I know not a nightly show, but still. I miss Charlie Rose and wish he hadn't gone astray. I can't fathom why he did it when he could have had lots of women who weren't interns.
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I don't understand why would want shows like this in America, when you can just watch these ones? America could never have a show like this because, as a product of its environment, it would eventually end up like an American talkshow, with guests throwing jugs of water at the host or whatever
@Jaime Alonzo I know that you're from Latin America and that for you America means North America + South America, but in the English speaking world, America means the USA. When talking about North America, we say North America, when talking about South America, we say South America, and when talking about both continents together, we say the Americas. But just plain America means the USA.
@Jaime Alonzo Absolutely not, and it's not my logic, it's every native English speaker's logic. The name of the country is United States of America. They were named that way in honor of Amerigo Vespucci, the same person who got the continents named after him. Also South America was discovered slightly later, and it took a long time before they could draw proper maps and realized that North and South America were two different continents, so until they did, they just called the whole thing America. This name doesn't apply to the continents anymore, at least not in English.
In my MBA we studied a bit about doing job interviews, and I remember all the research saying that face-to-face job interviews raise your chances of picking a bad candidate.
What about the candidate picking a bad employer? It cuts both ways.
Why do we still do them then?
You are full of it. The research doesn’t say that in the least
@@fairtreatment2618 The research does say that. If you have face to face interviews you have a tendency to choose a candidate based on factors unrelated to the job, or who are most similar to yourself, rather than the person who would actually perform the best in the role.
It’s a distraction, basically.
@@Tzadeck Yes, it depends on the structure of the interview. If you use structured interviews with rated items with multiple persons it gets slightly better than flipping a coin (a lot of research in the area). But yes Interviews, specially unstructured ones, mainly rely on biases (attractiveness, similarity... ). Failures in cvs are also non informative.
My favourite show (also to learn Swedish) and your guests keep getting better. I love Gladwell‘s books for many years! Cheers from Switzerland!
We're very glad to hear that - thank you!
Not all the thoughts of Malcolm presented here make sense to me, but yet i still enjoyed this interview very much. Malcolm is eloquent indeed. He's brilliant whether or not we agree with him. Thanks, Kavlan! Success always 👍🎉
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@@SkavlanTV thanks so much for your response, and my apologies for having typed your name incorrectly.... 🙏🙏
No worries at all!
Yes; I think his argument is somewhat overstated...I would disagree that we should eliminate job interviews, but instead adjust our criteria and the weight of it. Also if I’m hiring, for example, a manager of people, a talk show host, or a salesperson, then their ability to “match”, i.e., emote in predictable ways that make their audience comfortable may be a critical qualification for the job. One might say that their prior job performance could speak for itself, but there are laws and other impediments that make it challenging to objectively assess their performance in prior organizations. I still prefer to see people. I have in the past, after a mildly concerning interview, consciously discounted someone’s interpersonal skills because I knew s/he would be doing a lot of independent programming work. And they were indeed a success.
@@bert3163 most advice should be taken with a grain of salt. You and Malcolm are both right.
I love this show so much. Someday America will grow up enough to be able to have these amazing conversations. I'm hooked, thank you for all you do.
lol. I was thinking the same. Our shows involve discussions about bullshit, guests being interrupted by the host to make a stupid joke, then a cut to a commercial break.
Don't hold your breath.
Sean you are from a different generation. We used to have these shows and they vanished in the 80’s. When certain people were on it was a big event.
We don't discuss anything anymore. Any dissenting opinion brings out the fight or flight instinct among MOST Americans. I have to travel to ever have any real discussions with people.
Excellent interview and thoroughly enjoyable program always! Thank you for posting. Keep up the excellent standard. :) Greetings from Canada.
Thank you so much, Emma! We appreciate it.
I feel like every person would avoid job interviews if that were an option.
More unattractive people would get hired.
@@mangumangoo More introverts would get hired.
I got my current job from my resumé, no interview. I've been really successful at it and my boss is really happy with the hire.
@@neilfromcork That's awesome! I'm not of the opinion that it can't happen, just most folks in the working world don't have that option or we would take it. In support of Gladwell's point - most of the people I've hired who interviewed the best turned out to actually be the worst, just very good at talking themselves up.
You're funny I like you.
When i lived in Norway, this was my ultimate favorite show on TV
That means a lot to us, thank you so much! Tusen takk!
I have never lived in Norway, but they used to allow you see their full program (the old ones at least) if you lived outside Norway. But since a few years I go I can't watch them :( So I'm only able to watch the ones in CZcams, which are just clips in English, not in Norwegian :(
@@SARAVANDEGIRL: Thank you for commenting! The reason behind this is that SVT own the rights in Sweden, TV 2 in Norway and we as a production company own the rights in the rest of the world. Since we have to geo-block our content in Sweden and Norway, and since most of our viewers are English speaking, we mostly publish international interviews here. (With a few exceptions, where we provide subtitles in English.)
@Random Restoration: That's wonderful, thank you for watching us from England!
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This substitue teacher who looked very young said she got stopped by hall monitors pretty often when she subbed at high schools. She started carrying around a coffee mug even though she didnt drink coffee and she never got bothered again.
Stilleto heels would do the trick as well.
Skavalan is one of the very few, who asks the right questions and good questions, taking his lead from what the guests say,and that is why I enjoy his show so much
Very interesting guests as always!
I love your show!!! You are incredible!!!
If said it before, im saying it now and ill say it in the future Skavlan, you are an excellent interviewer. Salutations from me in Ireland
Fascinating conversation. I can relate being an introvert myself.
I have a phone interview coming up. I’ve never done one before and it scares me a bit. I watched this thinking it would give me tips on how to be successful in a phone interview. It taught me much more than that. I haven’t seen anything quite as interesting since Dick Cavett. Thank you. I subscribed immediately.
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Great show. Great talks.
4:00 This is a fundamental misunderstanding of extroversion/introversion anyway. Being an introvert does not mean you necessarily are bad at social interactions.
@Black Brit Exactly. Introverts are very good at observing and countless studies show are better at reading people.
True; not necessarily bad, but it sure helps me!
It's also an ad hominem. People seem to think that someone cannot produce a valid point (after 6 years of research mind you) if their personality does not perfectly conform with the point they're making.
True what you're saying, but I think he also wanted to point out, that extroverts on average have more interactions than introverts on average (which certainly fits with the definitions of these two terms), which would mean that measured in "time spent on" extroverts would have more experience in interacting with strangers.
Absolutely brilliant!
I love this show - so friendly and intelligent. And I could so relate to Malcolm's interpretation of the way Slavlan would There's a giggle here even underneath the giggles - that we all agree to living in a sort of a hallucination - that the customs people pretend to look for drugs in our baggage, that smugglers can simply wear a suit and be automatically assessed as honorable - that we all play this game and agree to the hallucination. What are we doing? What are the reasons behind what we do - what are the beliefs? Why is the customs guy checking our baggage? Who is he - why do we allow him? We are always buying into belief systems. What is the belief system that underlies our strange behavior?
Food for thought. Thank you
I’m Oklahoma & your conversation with Malcolm encouraged me to subscribe to this channel, I hope that you won’t disappoint.
Love the bit about the face to face interview. I totally agree with Malcolm!
Goes against communications theory which says that the more factors you factor in, the better the communication; and even Sven said in the interview, you know more when you meet them and begin working with them. Trial periods are the answer. www.powerfullytransforming.com
"What if you're a Customs Officer?"
"You have to accept the fact that your job is impossible."
ZZZZZZIIIIIIING!!!!!
What a find!
4:46
Gladwell in 2007: "Blink of an eye" judgments can be incredibly accurate, let me write a whole book it: "Blink"
Gladwell in 2019: But really, what can you tell if a person from a half-hour face-to-face encounter? ...
He hasn't even figured out that Trump is good for America. He hates him and loves Islam that wants to see him and all non-muslims dead
This is a really good point, and I was hoping someone would ask him about that during one of his interviews. My guess as to how he'd respond to that is that thin slicing is about getting to the root, while the assessments most people make upon meeting new people are based on prejudices...which he talks about in "Blink" and states that as the reason most people are bad at thin slicing. He said that prejudice can operate at an intuitive unconcious level, so both of his theories can coexist. But still, I'd like to hear him respond to your question.
Personally I think blink is closer to the reality. The curve would look a lot like the learning curve.
4:28 he acknowledged that he’d been to quick on forming that belief
@Billy Bones Trump is a narcissistic bully, who is bad for everything not just America. You don’t need a book to tell you that dumbass!
I love this format, the interviewer is not interrupting every 5 seconds, and when someone does comment its salient
0:07 That is perfection
Davy Roger Theres leaked nudes of her all over Google. You’re welcome.
Skorp1o: What?!?! 😮
Who is she
Pete Pablo Norwegian hand ball player.
@@skorp1o369 Name, please.
I'm so "mismatched" and it's hard. It takes me time to come up with answers.
Goes to show that the old adage about not listening to what someone says, but watching what their feet do (talk vs. action) holds up.
What? This whole talk was literally pay attention to what someone says not what they are doing while they say it. At least for first encounters that aren't dates.
The only time you need to interview someone in person is if they're interacting with customers and clients. You need to know that quality for the job and meeting them in person is the way to judge that. Also you want to get some sense of what they're like if they will be working in a team in person with coworkers. So there are many jobs where meeting in person is necessary for picking the best candidate.
There is a reason major orchestras have auditions behind a screen.
David Lucey
Malcom writes about it in BLINK
I would wager a bet that Gladwell hasn’t had to sit in a job interview in a looooooong time 😂
You read that the wrong way round. He's talking about when he is interviewing candidates for a position. But nice joke, and quite true.
Gladwell despite being an awkward introvert at heart could get almost any job he wanted. His communication skills are excellent.
Indeed, he is a brilliant man, proud to call him a Canadian … I meant no disrespect what so ever❤️🇨🇦
Malcolm Gladwell is one of the most interesting and entertaining people I have listened to in many, many years!
As someone who works with actors (Director/filmmaker) I absolutely HAVE to meet people in person to employ them. I see all sorts of very revealing & important info by observing how they behave - things like how the actor interacts with others & things like how they treat people they think are unimportant like assistants.
Gladwell’s point about Chamberlain is deeply flawed because it assumes that everyone is equally efficient at reading signals & info.
I completely agree. I can understand his point of view on not having to interview a person face to face but for me, I gain no insight when dealing with a person's energy if I do interact solely over the phone. Yes, meeting the criteria for the position is very important but to work with someone also requires a balance of energy. At least for myself. I do find his opinion interesting.
I think he's trying to say that even people who think they're good at reading signals are not that great. I think to understand his theory here you also have to understand his ideas on matched and unmatched people. People who work in entertainment as actors and public figures must be matched to do their job. Also--unless you're a complete idiot (which those people exist) as an actor you'd do everything in your power to get the image you want across. An act of kindness towards the assistant might just be for show instead of something genuine. Nowadays there are so many books and vlogs about how to act and what to say that it's easy to come across a certain way, but to Malcolm's point you probably won't really know what the person is like until months down the line. Some people are so good at interviewing and once they are on board they suck...and vice versa.
Agreed. It is easy to cherrypick cases of people who don’t pick up lots of signals from others to argue that point but for many of us being in person takes perception to a new level.
if you piece together his thesis from other interviews, he is basically saying everybody is lousy at judging people within an initial interaction. obviously, as you get to observe a candidate interacting with others or doing sample work, you can gain a more complete picture. but the point is a 20 minute in-person interview will more likely cloud your judgement on a person than an in-person interview would.
@@dbolt_ Yes Doug, I think that's what a lot of people don't understand. I am someone who considers myself to be good at reading people and picking up on the most nuanced things. However, there are so many people nowadays who are good at mimicking certain behaviors. Also, people's awkward behaviors often doesn't mean anything bad...but some people are terrible at first impressions. I've had to be schooled on this a couple of times. I still consider myself good at reading people, but the major difference is that I believe I need more time to see the bigger picture. I used to make quick decisions about people, but now I give myself more time and that makes a world of difference.
Great interview
"I trust my intuition less and less". Yet Gladwell's earlier book BLINK was all about the value and truths that emerge from intuition.
expression of emotion is a cultural thing. Italians or Americans exaggerate their emotions. The british suppress their emotions and are understated. There was a case in the US where an english nanny was accused of killing the baby and it was widely reported that she was not expressing enough emotion and the public condemned her for that.
Heard Malcolm speak for 30 seconds at the beginning of the clip and clicked the like button lol
Aren't you the sucker for a certain famous face or name? Unless, of course, the idea was expressed with perfect concision in a mere 30 seconds.
@@randolphpinkle4482 Aren't you a poor, angry person whose only happiness in life is criticizing statements he can barely comprehend. I hope you get it one day but I'll put my money on that you won't. You don't have kids, right? Wishing you the best your pathetic existence can offer.
How so true!
I'm a fan of MG and his books are all interesting and raise great questions, but in all of them he grossly oversimplifies to the point of losing meaning. This latest work is no exception. A perceptive person can indeed learn a lot from a face-to-face interview. It's not just looking at the obvious stuff such as posture, handshake, clothing, etc, but reading between the lines. There are subtleties such as what someone is trying to convince you of, where they are putting their energy, possibly in an attempt to divert you from something else. Do certain questions frustrate them and produce an emotional response, etc. There are people who are proven experts at detecting lies and liars with results to back up their claims. MG's assertions only apply to imperceptive and unintelligent people who base their decisions about other people on the superficial.
Yes, he certainly oversimplifies A LOT. If the books were too serious they wouldn't have appeal to the mass market as they do. They would be too dry and too complicated.
Precisely. Thank you!
Gladwell is making the excellent point that very accomplished and intelligent people ( like Neville Chamberlain ) can completely misread other people despite numerous face-to-face encounters. I don't think he really tried to imply that ALL interviews are completely useless - just that they were very overrated in terms of the efficiency of the evaluation.
@EpicColorMaker No, it's saying something like the opposite: that an assumption does exist regarding association between greater intelligence and better perception of human behavior, but this assumption is at least flawed and may be wholly incorrect.
????? Please amplify your remark
8:38 This is kind of funny. The first Gladwell book I read was Blink, which is all about how our snap judgements are often right, and right in ways we don't totally comprehend.
This show is brilliant. So simple, yet super educative. Is like a brain gym.
Much needed these days.
Greetings from Canada👏🎊
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Awesome.
“You can observe a lot just by looking.” Yogi Berra
If we don’t look, we won’t learn what can by purposeful observation.
"When you come to a fork in the road, take it." Yogi Berra 😅
(Not related to the topic.) He came up with some real winners.
Very interesting.
Interesting info.
Makes me wonder what I do with the research in his book Blink which highlights intuition and its hidden ability within the human psyche.
Silent Grove In an interview with a British journalist recently Gladwell stated people should be free to change their minds as more evidence comes to light over time about a subject. He said what he wrote about years ago is subject to change as something evolves, to the point he may change his mind about what he wrote. I hope that helps you understand where he is coming from.
just because something was published doesnt mean you need to believe it. just use ur critical thinking skills.
4:21 lessons from years-long book research - we can be quick to judge people
......... wrongly.
I once got a job, via Skype, based primarily upon my looks. Then my social skills were factored in. Then they trained me on their set of job skill requirements.
Malcom Gladwell at his best !
A+
Customs officers at the border are like locks on the door; they are very good at keeping out the honest people.
Like locks on the door, they stop the most casual of intruders, so they need a little bit of effort and risk.
Great interview. It always used to bother me when people made assumptions about myself or others based on a few statements I or they may have made. I used to have a friend who would say things like, "he doth protesteth too much" to describe someone who was too vehement in declaring his innocence. The problem is, many times that person was innocent, so I decided to tune out my jackass friend and simply found other friends who were lesser assholes.
I bet that friend was manipulative... I have heard others use that phrase also, and they will game a situation to achieve the outcome they want.
For example, he protesteth too much... Guilty.
He didn't say he didn't do it.... Guilty.
@@kennedysan1045 You are exactly right!!!
@@kennedysan1045 Yes, you're absolutely right.
@@kennedysan1045 Yes, my now former friend was very manipulative. It took me a long while to figure that out.
@@robmausser I'm real glad that the detectives for the first case were demoted.
On the "what if the book was written by an extrovert" topic, well actually the advice in most books of the sort is indeed "just be yourself", "be confident", "show genuine interest" repeated over and over and over sooo...
I'm an introvert...and I actually love interviewing in person for the exact reasons he mentions. Most people don't believe I'm an introvert when they first meet me or see me in public because I can "turn it on" easily. I'm interviewing next week and in setting it up was hoping it WOULDNT be over the phone. I need you to see my face, how tall I am, how funny, charming, engaging, intelligent...blah blah blah...so that you fall in love and hire me immediately before someone else snatches me up! And I need you to do so quickly because the illusion only lasts for about 30 minutes and then I turn back into a pumpkin! I'm also very good at seeing through others illusions with my natural ability to discern what I now know as "matching" in others. Me when looking for a job "can I skip the application and resume part and get in front of the decision maker immediately?"
Shit!!! God I thought was an "Outlier" (something that Gladwell takes apart in one of his books). I was so introverted that when I was invited to eat dinner at a person's house, that I was unfamiliar with, I was embarrassed to eat fried chicken with my hands in front of them. The thing that I had to learn how to do to extrovert myself was becoming a CAR salesman!! The owner in one of our teaching sessions told me I was not looking into his eyes, I learned my lesson, and earned my bread and butter for over 10+ years doing it. As a matter of fact, that's what I did for the rest of my life to earn a living, face to face sales Now a "Geezer" and there is an "Oldies" club, and you have to be at least an "Old Fart" to join (60's) I talk ot everybody!!
Clearly Gladwell should have phoned in to the interview
0:06 thicc (sorry had to get the shenanigans outta the way)
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I had to rewind to make sure lol
bonafide wife material right there
Super thick!!
What's her name? I got to continue the shenanigans
Gladwell is about to get searched at the airport 😁.
Face to face you can see how conscious and courteous of others a person is. How we move and anticipate each other is important, eye movement, facial and body expression says a lot. If you need someone for a call center or computer job then phone works, but aren't we getting tired and fat from these jobs?
My mother came over from Ireland after WW II on the Queen Mary and she brought with her some books and also an Encylopedia set. The set was printed in 1939, and in it, it had a picture of Hitler and kind of depicted him as an OK guy. Recently, in my constant noodling around on Utube, I found an interesting video of a meeting that Hitler had with a Finnish General (?), and Hitler had been secretly recorded speaking in his normal voice, and he sounded completely normal. It turns out that Hitler rehearsed all of his gestures, speech nuances, everything for total effect before his speeches in front of his adulating crowds. Never thought about Neville Chamberlain being tricked. It all makes complete sense now!
I really love this Lady here ... she makes the content sooo much more beautiful .-.
I think he mis-applied the example to dating; dating is meant to be several meetings, or many, which gives you the type of long-range information he says can't happen in 30-min interviews, but admits happens when getting to know someone for longer periods of time.
Except that if the first date fails, there are no more dates - just like a job interview.
We don´t have shows like this in Austria which is a shame because first, we deserve and need that and we had good talk-tv in the past, for instance "Club 2" which was a highly admired show in the 70es and 80es with mostly german speaking guests of course. I have to agree with the user "the egg". In talkshows the hosts often think they have to entertain the people with funny anecdotes, jokes. The guests often get interrupted by answering a question. This show is entertaining too but on a very different level. I think it reflects what we centraleuropeans think about skandinavian society pretty good.
The lady is awfully gorgeous
Malcom is the most interesting person of our time
Wasn’t the theory in his previous book Blink that you can trust feelings you get very quickly when talking to people face to face ?
Book-sales trump consistency perhaps.
I love this Guy. I feel as if we are related.. ! haha.
4:32 Skip to Face to Face Job Interviews Part
"Any conclusion I draw about watching people for a few minutes on television is false." I don't buy into job interview, or resumes. If you want to hire me, if you want to work with me, along side of me, there's only one way: spend time with me.
#TalkingToStrangers
How would that work?
Interviews are projection /reception barometers. Jobs often require that good people suspend their decency so that their supervisors can benefit.
So unfortunately true.
No, that is when you find another job.
I agree with the face to face interview stance, the best jobs I have gotten have been over the phone, when I have turned up a job face to face interview (even after good first telephone interviews) I am treated disrespectfully and sometimes, respectfully dismissed. I am black, and that has a lot to do with it. In case you're wondering in those jobs that I have turned up after being accepted 8 times out of 10 I could I tell if there was trepidation or disappointment.
Talking with strangers can be an important phase of getting to know them. But don't just listen to their words. Look at their actions because actions speak louder than words. Sometimes the other person's written words - as was brought out in the discussion about Neville Chamberlain and Adolph Hitler - is a much better indicator of their motives and intentions than a face-to-face meeting. For example, compare Trump's presidential tweets with his actual public interviews. He is a very angry person when he tweets, but tones it down when he has a conversation with others. However, his actions are indicative of his actual mindset.
You underestimate how charming or charismatic or completely normal some absolute madmen and madwomen can sound and appear.
Well, after all, he is a populist political figure,m not exactly in the vein of Will Rogers, but you know what I'm getting at. The opposite of whatever charisma Obama may or may not have.
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It's important to take all factors into consideration when hiring someone. Her/his skills, work record, communication abilities and, yes, his/her appearance. One's appearance can be very important to a profession in respect to what is required for that position. Business dress or casual, proper hygiene and whether someone needs to be outgoing or is rarely in contact with the public or co-workers. ALL components are required for most jobs although, admittedly, if one works entirely alone, perhaps not.
There are so many factors as to why someone might not look a certain way, including if they've been unemployed for a while and do not have the means to buy themselves proper clothing which does not mean that they'd be bad at the job in question. I actually think a lot of employers do themselves a great disservice with the assumptions they make because so many companies end up hiring people who are bad at the job. A lot of people are great at interviews and terrible once they're hired, and if you're evaluating based on stereotypes the likeliness of being bamboozled is very high.
@@QueenSoap Yes, and usually that can be explained in an interview. The gap on your resume will indicate it anyway; if you have been called for an interview it's most likely the employer will listen to you. I'm not saying people have to dress expensively, I don't. but showing some effort can be taken as being respectful of an opportunity.
The position you are hiring for is obviously really important to take into account. If a sales manager can't present himself well in a short amount of time, and under a given amount of pressure, they are probably not very qualified for the job. If a lab technician makes an awkward first expression but seems otherwise very suitable, it is probably still a good idea to hire him (on probation) and see how he works with the handful of people he shares the lab with for two or three weeks before deciding whether to keep him...
Oh, and btw, we *DO* have amazing, cerebral programming here in the U.S. featuring AMAZING interviews and lectures by and with AMAZING people like Malcolm Gladwell....let's see: there's NPR, TED Talks....omg the list is too long. Idk who so sadly and delusionally believes that we don't offer superlative platforms for interviewing superlative people here in the US, but they are just plain ignorant about our many impressive media outlets and offerings. Smh.
10:20 And signed the Munich Agreement. I'm shocked as I'm learning this for the first time.
At 12:15-always remember that when people are on a date, especially a first date, each party is on his or her best behavior. You don’t have to be in award winning actor to be nice for a couple hours.
Great show!
Thank you so much!
I appreciate all of his points but must say I disagree for the most part. Being in a person's energy and picking up on many even minute details helps enormously. I've always trusted my intuition on people and it's never let me down thus far.
@Charlie Edmonds Her experience can only, by nature, come from herself. That doesn’t make it confirmation bias unless she's projecting that on _everyone_ & looking to make their experiences match her own.
But what about snap judgments? Alot of information in micro expressions? Gut feelings ?
The point is that all those things are easily deceived. Like his example, a person might be lying, or they might be under-confident, you can't tell. Likewise a confident person is highly likely to be incompetent - look up the Dunning-Kruger effect.
6:20 this is exactly whats breaking down in our society. It is literally becoming what hes describing here. People are not trusting experts at the cost of their lives.
The world is not made of "outliers." Especially, if both parties are trying to be open, you can tell a lot in "just half an hour."
wait, wasn't his first book called Blink?
His first book was actually "The Tipping Point" first released in 2000.
I read Blink and took it to heart. I feel I am a very intuitive person and have done my own investigations. I teach personal communication regularly in small groups and I feel I can hone in on what is going on with my students. I remember seeing someone years ago and realizing they were sad. They shrugged me off on it so I let it go however it was still there so I enquired again and they did cop to it. This is also one of the most poker faced individuals I know.
This new discussion of his made me wonder and I have to admit I have my doubts.
Of course you can understand a lot of things from the appearance mostly from the eyes !
HOWEVER, you can communicate so much more face to face. Some people open-up and reveal so much more about themselves because the eye contact triggers emotion and genuine conversation. I would argue that a disingenuous person would be more easily caught in a lie, face to face or equally as disingenuous over the phone. Either way, you get so much more information face to face.. the eyes, the body language, the fact they are confident even though they aren't handsome or pretty... etc... etc...
The statistics show a different picture. We can become biased for or against someone purely because of faulty intuition in face to face interactions. Did you listen to the examples in this clip?
@@peggycearnach8034 I did, but I still disagree. We all have bias, but I like to think an intelligent person can overcome their bias and still reach a fair unbiased conclusion. Agreed however that many people will become victim to bias.
How come if a person says they are introverted, other people tend to act like that person must be strange or weird??? I'm introverted, all that really means is I tend to be quieter and I really think before I say something. I still like social interactions but I prefer talking to people one to one than being in a group. If it was just the 2 of them talking , I bet Malcolm would have opened up more and might have come across totally different than being in a group dynamic.
I'm not sure if you are familiar with what "flow" state is, but I think figuring out if your intro/extraverted has something to do with how easily you get into that flow state talking to groups of strangers. I've found complete extroverts almost get tunnel vision in a group setting, where it's nearly impossible to even interact at a one-on-one level when they're in the zone.
When groups of people get this "tunnel vision", it's like they're throwing their attention together into one big pile, as a subconscious way of keeping everybody on the same page. It also seems like the idea of being a "matched" person has something to do with it, because it allows others to essentially read your mind without asking, which is necessary to have a strong group dynamic. When an introvert comes along, and, not being in the flow state, says something that isn't on the shared page, it throws the energy of the entire flow off because the group now has to refocus.
It's difficult for introverts to switch gears into this shared mindspace, so they view socializing as simply taking turns trading perspectives, instead of sharing the same one at the same time like extroverts do. This is why arguments kill parties, and it's also why extraverts see introverts as boring, because introverts can only think what they think and can't be compatible with the simultaneous perspective. Thus, being "stuck in their shell."
Maybe it’s a locational thing. A lot of people take pride in being introverted at my school
It also depends what is being talked about. Introverts can talk about subjects they like for hours. But they tend to be more specific, more niche or even nerdy.
Also seems to be an undercurrent that extroversion is superior... It's quite bizarre.
Kennedy San Extrovert seems more “normal” because there are more of them.
And i dont trust anyone and i live very isolated. Such a shame.
A beautiful and honest show - something we lack in America now because everything has to be politically correct, else someone would be offended
Meh, depends on how good of a read you are of other people. I can pick up all sorts of things about people from across the room. So yes, phone interview first but in person brings another layer!
Skavlan, Are you familiar with the recently released book Everyone is an Einstein; and There is an Einstein in Everyone: The Constitution of Genius by author Benjamin Michael? It's a very compelling read!
This is, as well as more parent participation and encouragement, a reason students are having more success with online schooling than in person
Some students.
That's bullshit
You need a face to face interview cause you also judge people by your Gut feelings and Malcom gladwell himself mentioned this in his book "The tipping point"!
2:01 the Italian police had an idea Lol
5:30 i hate to talk to people i don't know on the phone. I need the visual clues in a conversation.
This guy has me in stitches: 11.18: "Think about how much better served Chamberlain would have been if he stayed home in the Prime Minister's house, and just read Mein Kampf. (Instead of flying to Germany and meeting Hitler in person).... I mean the man wrote a book about what he wanted to do!" (And it wasn't about peace)
Skavlan, I'm an American, and I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed your interview with Dr. Jordan Peterson and Malcolm Gladwell. I can't quite put my finger on how your interviews differ from those here in the U.S., but it's good stuff. Keep it going.
He asks non superficial questions and it isn’t just a mutual self congratulatory exercise aimed to pitch a movie or book. US talk shows are banal.
Isn't this a face-to-face interview?
haha
maybe he is secretly arguing he isn't so smart and we shouldn't buy his book based on his tv appearances
He has to do this to promote his books. He isn't doing it for fun.
Why am I terrified of the face of that man??? Weird
Whoa the woman is smoking hot what a beauty. Malcolm Gladwell books are awesome I highly recommend them.
Who are the other guests?
so there can't be a Sherlock Holmes.
He could anticipate that people may be mismatched. Still possible 🙏