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The Early History of Appalachia
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2013
- Settled for centuries by Native American tribes before the arrival of the Europeans, the Cherokee were the dominant people of Appalachia when the colonial settlers began to enter their Appalachian homelands. It would be the subsequent rush of Scots-Irish, English, and German immigrants that would ultimately settle into this region as colonists within the North American British empire.
I'm an Appalachian resident my entire life and it's all I know. I love the feeling of Autumn approaching and being able to walk down the Appalachian trail during my day. We get all 4 seasons, lush mountain views, and the best outdoorsy stuff to do. It's beautiful for sure and I wouldn't feel at home anywhere else. I don't like others coming here and exploiting the land's resources, but it's been happening for years.
To bad !NOT your land. Land back
I don't blame you dear...I hate it too and its totally terrible what they have done to California and now it's a haven for nutcase liberals....
@@RoxyNothing Not your land missy
While appreciative of your sentiments, a nation needs resources to be a nation.ine doesn't become a world power by being meek (excuse the borrowing of a line from the Cherokee leader at the beginning of the vid).
Exploiting the land resources 😂😂
Scotch is an alcohol. We are Scots. Not Scotch.
All respect to you, !!
@gavinator I'm glade they are here..100% give me a black and tan..
@gavinator Wrong. The term is first known to have been used to refer to a people living in northeastern Ireland. In a letter of April 14, 1573, in reference to descendants of "gallowglass" mercenaries from Scotland who had settled in Ireland, Elizabeth I of England wrote: We are given to understand that a nobleman named 'Sorley Boy' [MacDonnel] and others, who be of the Scotch-Irish race .
Scots who were sent to Northern Ireland and then moved to America.
Scotch is a tape too, ha. A sticky word.
@@robcochran6213 but it wasn't the Scots that called themselves Scotch. It was a twit queen of Anglund, or England. Just because she in error used the term, that doesn't make it correct. Go to Scotland and start calling everyone Scotch. LMAO. Good luck.
Very proud of my Native family! They lived off the land, which is the righteous way of walking with God the holy way! They loved their brother and sister's of all colors! ❤❤❤
That’s it❤️! Always knew in my heart ❤️!
The Cherokee were also slave owners. They even took Africans slaves on the trail of tears with them. This video seemed to skip that.
@@Crystal-bp6gv freed black who bought their freedom also bought slaves so i guess its just a choice to learn and get rich just like everyone else.
@Crystal-bp6gv Very true, which I'll readily admit, even being a Cherokee American.
Not entirely true.
We Cherokees had wars with neighboring Tribes over the right to hunt on certain lands.
I get upset by those who paint us as some "touchy-feely" group of people who were perfect in some bizarre fashion. Hardly so.
We fought and we killed. That's where the terminology of warriors came to be.
We sided with the British during the American Revolution, in case anyone cares about true history. The reason was that the British were trying to prevent the colonists from spreading west past the Appalachian Mountains, which we liked. We only did what made the most sense for our Tribe, as any people would.
Fantasies are for fiction, not for real history.
Please folks, stay with actual facts, not some fantasy world nonsense.
They went to war to gather land also. Your documentary contradicts itself. "My people didn't gain the land of 7 states by being weak".
That lady said, "it wasn't war for land".
Contradicts.
Yeah that lady was really leaning hard into the noble savage mythos
yea it's just about "fug whitey"
its all conolete, woke rubbish. trying to paint them somehow better than Europeans.
The truth is the Natives didn’t have the tech to fight back. The Natives were very good warriors amongst themselves. They would raid steal kill enslave other tribes woman’s people try to act like Native Americans were hippys or some shit not true at all.
Yeah. I thought she was kind of naive when l heard her say that.
I'm very proud native American I was born raised in el Salvador my families were pushed out of the land that is now America my families lost our land and we were sent in 1840 to mexico and then to el Salvador my families are comanches ute Aztecan and Mescalero Apaches
Amazing 👏 Thank you for sharing
I'm sorry this happened to you n your family peace love n joy please return to your natives land
I feel for what you ancestors must of went through. Your story makes me sad but I like the way you tell it with pride.
Ok.... Whats your point? I'm Cherokee, my ancestors were from Appalachia thousands of years ago. You going to cry about it and look for attention or be happy & live your life the best way you can...
Mighty warriors....
You will find both positive and negative traits among all people. A common denominator among all humans.
"Very true."
"True."
Gary Murphy: to bad today is politically incorrect to talk about these truths. And if a politician slips the press will crucify him and run him out of office.
Very lazy comment
True comment
I've always been proud, and somewhat humbled to trace my family's bloodline back to Scot-Irish who settled in southern Appalachia near the Smokey Mountains. Thank you for the presentation
Scot with one T. If it has two Ts it's a surname, not a nationality.
My father's side of the family comed out of the Smoky and Blue Ridge Mountains which covers a lot of territory in all directions. I've seen pictures of it but would like to visit it some day.
@adam west By your comment, it is obvious who needs to "get a life"
Taking lands of native Irish and then Americans... what a proud heritage indeed
@@conorkelly947 Name one ethnic group whose ancestry is squeaky clean
You know in your heart the kinship to the rolling green hills and mountain passes.You feel at home in both places.
"How about that."
"True."
@@phyllislittlejohn3248 "cash me owsidde, how bow dat?"
I'm proud to be from Appalachia, lifelong. My ancestor settled here, both European and native. Love this land.
Your name sounds very Scottish.
Illegal aliens is what your ancestors are not Native American never..
If you settled somewhere yu would be where yu from not where you settled 🤔😅
I need to visit Appalachia, such great history and beauty.
It's one of the most pleasant piece of nature in the world. I read somewhere there is more biodiversity in the Appalachian mountains than in the Amazon jungle! Haivng spent months in those mountains (off-grid), I would believe it.
You most definitely should. A lovely place to enjoy summer and spring, lots of beautiful valleys and waterfalls too.
Go see the Smoky Mountain National Park and drive the Blue Ridge Parkway. Of course, also visit Qualla, the reservation of the Eastern Band of Cherokee (don't go to the casino, do go to the museum)
@@yaddahaysmarmalite4059 Great, thanks for the advice. I've driven through the Smoky Mountains and saw Lookout Mountain. TN is gorgeous.
That last commentary generated a chuckle: When the English settled, they built a church. When the Germans settled, they built a barn. But when the Scots-Irish settled, they built a whiskey still.
We do like us some whisky.......
The Scotts were here as indentured servants to England. They were here to rebel rouse, and they are still great at it today.
Just the necessities.
They were intelligent because they knew how much pain was coming with building a homestead, so they needed something to kill the pain😆👍
@@johnnelson7050 thanks for spelling whisky correctly.
For if it's nay Scot
It's crap.
Present day Cherokee," My people were warriors also, you don't control 7 states and be passive." Historian," There were wars but not for land or power but for revenge of killed kinsmen."
History. All Americans now
Agree. That lady sounds like she's not telling the truth.
@@hurdygurdyman1905 Yea, and they talk about escaped slaves becoming tribesman but leave out the fact that the tribe had a shit ton of slaves.
The noble Indian myth. But these tards don’t even realize they are contradicting themselves a minute later. Typical
I am strangely drawn to this region and wish to move there badly. It’s most important to me at this time of my life and something I am working towards. Vacationed there as a child and have passed through it many times and always want to to stop and stay. It’s beautiful there.
I completely agree with you. Having lived all over this great nation, Tennessee is the best. I've been in East Tennessee since 2007 and doubt I will ever leave.
😘😘😘 speaks to my soul. I love living here.
Appalachia has a very strong magnetic energy to her. Very blessed to call her home from ancestral scots and Irish/welsh.
I live in north GA my mother lived on the reserve. It’s beautiful here just respect the land ❤️
Hopefully you can I have been here all my life my grandmother was Cherokee
While I love Native American history and have a Cherokee bloodline, the Cherokees actually said that they weren't the first people in Appalachia and described a people they called "The Moon Eyed people" as being here when they got here. They were apparently albino, white skinned, blue eyed people who stayed in caves and we're responsible for many of the ancient rock forts through Appalachia.
There were also giants who were discovered in certain mounds in WV. So there were many races and groups here before the Cherokee.
That is confirmed.
Rock Eagle GA.
The stone hinge replica on top of lads mountain in Cartersville.
When the first settlers asked the Cherokee why the built it the answer was they didn't.
they said it was a people with hair like snow and eyes like the moon.
The Cherokee were not albino.
@@driverjeff1498 The Cherokee wee a brave and noble people. We owe them an acknodgement of there homeland and their bravery.
Giants, bro? Really? I’d ask you to show me
@@michaelbee2165 he didn’t say the Cherokee were albino but the tribe in Appalachia before the Cherokee were and the Cherokee referred to them as moon people. Read.
I love the fact that this is focused on pre-European contact, yet all of the artwork shows Cherokee with rifles, and some riding horses. Neither was available to Native Americans prior to contact with Europeans.
Did you only watch half the video?
I know ! The cultural appropriation is sickening
Oil and acrylic paint on canvas was not available prior to the rifle horse and european in America.
Yea these are the Ppl who helped the Europeans attack the Original Black Indians before the More Mongolian type came later
This documentary spinning the Narritive that’s why most the pics are paintings 🖼/made up as well
Who do you think painted the fucking pictures
To me there has always been a great irony to the clan culture of the Cherokee and that of the Celtic peoples who emigrated to the region. Very similar cultures in many respects.
I agree. My mother's ppl are Cherokee and my father's ppl are Scottish.
So you said white celtics live like black originals!?
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@@jacobstapleton7322 the Native Americans in Appalachia weren’t black, they’re red indians.
@@bendover9813 no we were black originals
So I have Scot-Irish, German, and English in my ancestry. As well as French and Dutch and who knows what else. probably a little native American as well. I live in the ole Tennessee hills and make a liven off the land. Upgraded a little in equipment but pretty much the same as how we used to be. I see in myself a little of everything I came from way back. And having grown up in a cabin in the hills without much modern convenience and very little money to go around, my experience harks back to the times of old. But it was good training.
The Californicators are coming like flies to honey, Sugar.... The mountains of Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina and Virginia are awhirl with change.... Soon you kids will be saying, "like" with every 4th word, "reeeally", "actuualay" and "Owe Ma Gawd"..... With land prices going out the roof, property taxes in the same fashion and the change in culture, the Over The Mountain People are doomed..., to be displaced.... Four of my six neighbors are from California and do not Poison Ivy from Turnip Greens....., chiggers from coyotes, "lions, tigers & bears" and all snakes are bad... Often, I have to translate what is being said from the natives to the "newby-Callitors."
You are a illegal immigrant..
Not Native American
U like a hybrid a lil bit of everything haha
My people were from Cork County, and Loch Sween Scotland. Some as early as the 1700's. And yes Tennessee looks just like Scotland and Ireland.🍀
The Germans settle all throughout Wisconsin for the same reasons. Looked like home.
Same as my dad's side of the family.
A lot of good game fowl came from cork
The Cherokee were an Iroquois people who came to southern Appalachia from the Great Lakes region around the 16th century, and pushed the native Yuchee and other tribes off the land, just like my ancestors did to them. I have Cherokee blood through three separate female lines of descent, and my father's mother looked more Cherokee than white, with tawny skin and straight, black hair, so I have a better understanding of the complexity of the situation than most Americans who are the descendants of recent immigrants.
The Iroquois Nation did not exist in the Appalachian regent of this country. Half of the Nation (close to it) belonged to them. We're talking about territory as far North as Canada and before being forced from their homes, parts of Pennsylvania. Moving into Canada came a bit later due to "Trail of Tears." Some headed North into upstate New York and Canada and others were forced to make the trek to Oklahoma.
Actually, the Iroquois nation comes out of Mongolia as do many nations and crossed the Bering Strait and moved or traveled in many directions (southerly). There is an island in or Near Alaska where there is a large settlement of the Cherokee Nation and they own it.
As well as Blackfoot I have that & Cherokee.
i dare you to say that in front of any Cherokee. go on.
@@phyllislittlejohn3248 that theory has been disproven
I've only recently discovered that my mother was adopted. This was a complete secret. I was raised in the north to believe I was about 75% German, and about a quarter English. I did the DNA thing and discovered I was nearly 80% Scot/Irish/Welsh, and only about 4% German. I have first and second cousins in Tennessee. My mother went from being a Schramm to being a Malone. It answers a lot of questions in my family.
NOT IN MINE!!!GOOD FOR YOU,WHILE YOU ARE BEING LIED TOO.MOHICAN.!!!!!!!!
Gray reporting in - welcome to the team!
Absolutely. Thank you telling the history of the people was not taught this in school.
I'm Northern Irish; isn't it sad that people never learn anything from history and that they just keep on repeating the same old mistakes?
They never want truth, lies is a business transaction
Wow do you know Black Foot Irish, Maureen,♠️
Uh,???
Human nature is a mistake to you? Are do you mistake human nature?
Yup ..
I'm thankful for their pronunciation of appa - LATCH - chia, instead of appa - LAY - chia. Finally
Once had a woman call me... You mountain people. Lol 😀
I have family who were born and raised in East Kentucky who pronounce it appa-lay-shuh. Maybe there are differences even within Appalachia
My grandpa was 1/4th cherokee he was born in Tennessee, he married my Apache, Irish, French grandmother who was born in Kentucky and I love Indian history
If my father were alive today, he would be able trace back (re family here) to the year 110 before anyone had any idea that America existed. I also love Native/American history. The problem is that I wonder if we're being told the truth.
Why not.
You white
@jenniferandangelinafan Brad Pit is that you?
My mom's side of the family came down from the Irish and Dad's came along to settle in the Blue Ridge in the late 1800's from Holland.
I had quite a few Cherokee friends growing up close to the reservation in NC. Many of them chose to live outside of the reservation back then to work and live and receive the federal incentive pay to live outside. Over the years they mingled and married non indian people and diminished the bloodlines. Causing the tribal counsel to increasingly lessen the percentage of the bloodline required to be on the tribal roles. It was a concern that the race was being slowly lost.
I moved away to Ga 25 years ago and don't know how that's been evolving since then? Hopefully they have made headway into the problem. No idea how the counsels in NC and Oklahoma interact with each other?
That's also interesting. I'm from Texas. There are a lot of oral histories told about regional Native tribes mixing with "Anglo" and Spanish settlers. The " "s are because of the generality applied to peoples of Germanic, Irish, and other European descent.
@@rickjag4928 it started in the 1400s, Spaniards from Europe came and started to colonize the native Indians…The Indians never took to the European nations
@@HI-bh9cn you're a list or uninformed. In the 4th of July massacres. As you trade is the business if people that grow companies. Countries. Murder doesn't work. Trade does. Guess who the natives side with when anarchy strikes up. It's not the anarchist because they're not in control also, when tested they can't prove much other then wanting to steal for easy life. They would test it for guarantee in case they make off better....that's if they're unloyal. The traders would make sure orrrr they would test the anarchist. So you think American cowboys versus indians is about whites fighting for Oklahoma. No. It went allll the way back to bad people Ruining a good life. Their life was going to improve. Now? They tried to fight. They fought for England. Google is you friend. Quadruple check. Make it wrong. Why would people with arrows fight peoley that stole canons? One reason. Loyalty, first to life. Then too they advancement in society. Mannnn.... seriously. Especially with the acquistion of Mexico, ...same..do you think people want to face these new government rougue killers with no allegiance. No allegiance, run wild. Hence bomb 1 thru 20 plus two nuclear bombs on Japan. What countries use Nuclear weapons. They have them. Who uses them? Beside the world police USA. Yep. I'm sure people don't know this story. Uhh. Sure. Yet this means orphan. They're not European. That's over with. They're set off. No? They went where? Another one bites the dust.
my family fled the borders of Scotland as we were reivers, went to Enniskillen county Fermanagh, from there they left to migrate to Australia , some went to the USA and Canada
The Acheson family were from there and went to Canada and Australia...and we still cele rate our Scots Irish history 6 generations later...
I'm from that coast in Northern Ireland and still live here. Some of my family settled in the Appalachians though.
Very interesting. My DNA is 17% Irish and I have evidence my Paternal Grandmother's great grandfather and grandfather were full blood Cherokee. Grandmother said her father was freeman with land living in South Carolina and was sold into slavery and sent to Mississippi and Louisiana. He died in Louisiana.
12% Scotish, 7% Wales, 8% Swedish/Danish.
17% Irish
I found my ancestors on the Dawes Rolls. My great grandfather and his mother and grandmother.
Me too
proud to be from southern Appalachia!
The Scottish highlands and the Appalachian mountains used to be part of the same ancient mountain range when the continents were connected
U lying 🤥
@Shinshocks so Mexicans and Native Americans can be called European since it was connected to north America. There was no borders before so im sure they got some of that blood.
@@user-nh6vu3qr7bthe way you’re jumping to these wild conclusions is crazy
@birthdaycow5712 if I'm jumping you guys are literally flying from one region to another that aren't connected in territory.
When the continents were connected, what was it then called as a whole?
Several of my maternal ancestors came from County Donegal, Ulster in the mid-18th century and settled in Pennsylvania. Ephraim Blaine, a son of such immigrants, became the commissary-general of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War. His brother Alexander was apparently my family's direct ancestor. For some unknown reason, Ephraim Blaine seldom even gets mentioned in most books on the American Revolution that i've ever seen, as if he was insignificant. Yet a "letter book", copies of correspondence kept by him and his assistant, John Chaloner, shows that they worked for years under difficult, even life-risking conditions, and helped save the troops from near-starvation. Except for one book that gives samples of their letters including some to George Washington, it's hard to get much information about him... In the early 19th century, my branch of the Blaine family settled in southern Kentucky on poor subsistence farms. Instead of making whiskey, they were strict teetotalers because their religious sect, the Church of Christ, did not allow alcohol except for medicinal use. My grandparents supported Prohibition.
That's very interesting. Cool that you're knowledgable of that history.
@@rickjag4928 I wish i knew more details about my family, but such knowledge depends on either written records or stories passed down by relatives, and both of those are scarce! A direct descendant of Ephraim, James Gillespie Blaine, was much better known as a popular senator, Secretary of State, and Republican candidate for President in 1884.
Yep Washington and Jefferson wanted to erase their importance. They murdered Harmond Husband because he was the true father of the united states and freedom. Here in swpa some of us still despise the solitary british magistrate system ruling our districts with price tag justice, drug dealing lawmen with full control etc. A panel of magistrates is not conducive to the needs of men who go to temples and perform masonic rituals instead of the ones at Christian place of worship. Harmmond Husband and his "Regulators" do not get mentioned because they were all Christians and not lieing, murdering, and thieving aristocrats.
There are all sorts of cover ups going on. For instance these "native Americans" were NOT here first. They came and killed all the red haired giants when they walked across the land bridge. The giants were absolutely here first and we have found many of their skeletons in mounds. The Indians themselves talk about the giants. There are published stories in old reputable news papers talking about finding the skeletons, but someone is trying to hide the truth and trying to keep the stories and remains under raps. My viking ancestors *were here FIRST.* _EYE_ am the native, *not* the free loaders who refuse to care for their babies.
I am of Muskogee-Cherokee ancestry. We are the People of the Gray-Eyes, the mixed bloods of the 5th geberation after the Great Sadness (removal), who were foretold in some of the prophecies of western tribes such as Hopi, Zuni, and others. In the Great Sacred Circle of life, the Natural Way will return after the Great Cleansing, and the People who have kept many of the Old Ways, will lead the Chosen Remnant into the Fifth World. ..."and the meek will inherit the earth." Much Love and Many Blessings.
Sgi sister.
Leigh Knight..... I am with you. And it is soon to come. May I meet you in the Appalachian some day. I walk the path of the Ancient One's as well.
hawwachicka mongo
Let's bury the hatchet. We smoke em peace pipe!
@Andy Vanderpool don't know about all that, however, you are 100% troll and as usless as tits on a bull!
I refuse to believe they didn’t go to war with other tribes over territory disputes.
Believe. White man!
They all did and it was common.
I agree with you but you have to understand this is the perspective of a white man's history and it is very sad that they believed they had the right to steal this land but what is done is done.
@@victorialopez807 all land is conquered land.
Not unless you understand the ancient kinship that they had.
We all fit in here in some way. My family came through the gap as Scott Irish and set up farms and later timber business. They intermarried with our local Cherokee clans who never went on the trail of tears. My great great grandfather married a Cherokee her given name was gunpowder. A special place for a different kind of people's.
So is 'Scott Irish' your ancestor then? Where did he live?
Hahaha yes Scott is a proper noun , Scot is a person from Scotland.
Yep. I'm Irish-Cherokee from the Appalachians in VA.
The Americas were a true paradise before the 1400s. We will all pay dearly for what we've done to them.
Appalachian. is the home of the Cherokees
medicine turtle Cherokee
Native Medicine Academy hey I've lived in the blue ridge mountains of NC all my life like my grandfather's before me. one day I was fishing grassy Creek and found a small turtle figure carved from Stone in the creek.
Blueridger that is awesome! I live close to grassy mountain, close to Elijay, I find arrowheads,game stones and tools all the time!
Hope it wasn't on federal land. You could get arrested for just picking it up, that stuff belongs to gov't archaeologists.
@@theoldscout3478 "federal land". LOL. YOU NAZI.
@@theoldscout3478 lol, for real? Im of Polish descent and I am on the side of the First Nations....whatever is from THEIR ANCESTORS belongs to THEM. You need to keep your mouth closed and stop sounding like a fool. This land was stolen and bullied from them just like the Nazis, Russia, and other foreign invaders have done in Europe for centuries...
No Elizabeth Warren?
Most people won't understand your reference, but that's pretty funny. And very convenient for her if it gets her more votes. She's like Hilary, willing to say whatever it takes to pan to a certain group of people if it benefits her.
Fauxahontus😉
HA.... HA.... WHAT A GREAT THOUGHT.... the World had to be a BETTER PLACE
@@boweavil1063 good catch i got it but barely..
Gfys
The Cherokee were peaceful, industrious and intelligent people.
Back in those times, women were in charge of building/putting up the tipi, cook, fetching water, clean and raising a family. Men however were the hunters and of course the protectors of the tribe.
Wow. I would like to go back in time and watch all this going down.
You wouldn't last very long. I guarantee it.
It was during the mid 1700's my mother's ancestors who were named Shaw, landed at about Wilmington, NC. On the same ship were Clark's and McDuffie's, from Scotland.
Large stretches of the Cape Fear River Valley were heavily populated by Scottish (not Scots-Irish) immigrants. Well into the 1800s, travelers to the area wrote of predominately Gaelic speaking communities, where the men still wore the kilts and tartans of Scotland.
My dad’s side has Native Americans, Irish ,English, and Scottish. As far as I know. My mom’s side is Native American, English, and Irish.
My Native American Mom always said travellers from all over the world visited America for thousands of years. Many governments came and gone. She says the US and Canada will be the same they will eventually fall again and our people will have to take care of the land again.
I wish there were documentaries on the ancient of Native American tribes of present-day USA. There are many documentaries of the Mayans and Aztecs of present-day Mexico. How about videos on the "ancient" history of the Cherokee, Sioux, Cheyenne, Seminole, Apache, etc.?
bomjam 2. Yell.
there is one its called 500 nations. it's an exelent doc of most tribes! rise & the fall of them
The people before the Cherokee were the mound builders and the stone grave Indians. little is known when whites got here they had already been eradicated.
@@jasonnorthcutt4008 the Mound builders were not Native American. They were descendants of the Annunaki, giants descended from the fallen angels that mated with human women. (Red hair, dble row teeth, 6 fingers and toes, 7 feet and taller.) The mounds are all over the world as is pyramids. They are all from the same time period and people.
@@brendastolecki4755 well darling if you look in the graves in Tennessee what you'll find is Bones of regular people. lay off the Peyote it's not meant for recreational use.
It would have been more accurate to have titled this video, "The Early History of the Cherokee in Appalachia" instead of what they did. This is told from a Cherokee perspective. If you ask another tribe that lived in Appalachia, you'll get a different story.
@@jamesyoung2241 Is that so..? If you come across my reply, please respond with your source of this information. I'd like to know/learn more.
@@rickjag4928 His source is he made it up he has no idea when the Cherokee were there because they didn’t write it down.
Yes, exactly. The Cherokee simply cooperated with the Europeans more than other tribes (and so they are the ones History glorifies - a history written by their once allies). The entire region of APPALACHIA is named from a much older and more civilized nation of people called "Apalachee". These people lived in towns, with wooden houses and fences. Does history honor them? No. But then again, they didn't help run all the other natives off of their territorial/ancestral lands like the Cherokee did. Which is no surprise, that is what they always did. Cherokee moved from greater texas area, after a few hundred years, to the great lakes, where they tried to settle but were again pushed away (as they were obviously much weaker than other tribes), that is when they settled in the area now known as Appalachia. Why isn't it called Cherokian Mountains? Because they were squatters, not the first people or oldest people there.
I am so very proud of my Scott-Irish, Cherokee Indian ancestry.
Scots-Irish on my paternal Grandmother's side. That branch of the family originally lived in Western Virginia, but moved first to Missouri, and after the Civil War, westwards to the Pacific Northwest, then, Oregon Territory.
I had ancestors that arrived in the NC area, before it was a state, but a territory.
They were in and around the area that is today Hendersonville. There are Cherokee on the Dawes rolls, with my surname, but I don't know them.
The name is Irish, also Cornish and Welsh... And the name also is spelled with one n as well as two.
I don't know if there are any Lannings still there in NC.
My grandfather was thought to be from Hendersonville, my grandmother was from Ashville.
My father was born in Hendersonville.
3:02 she says Indians did not fight for land or to expand their kingdoms or ideology or to inflict their religion on others. They fought to avenge the death of kin. In one statement she subtly but cleverly denigrates Europeans fighting and justifies native Americans reasons for fighting as if revenge is a more Nobel and Just reason for fighting and killing others. This woman has to be a progressive liberal. She must have really been a fan of the Hatfields and McCoys. That was all about revenge.
Yep, I caught that too.
Bitches be bullshittin
I was a mill town street kid who had some success and visited are sister plant in England
No knowing any better I referred to a Scot as Scotch .
I was promptly lectured that Scotch was a whiskey ,people from Scotland were either Scot’s or Scottish .
I never forget that lesson.
My ancestors on my grandpa’s side were from Appalachia. I’m 1.5 percent Native American. I know its not a lot but I will not call my self a Native American person. I am barely Native American. But I live in Appalachia. And have my whole life
"We need to remember that the first Appalachians were in fact native americans...." really ! who would've thought? I had completely forgotten that.....not. Moronic, and I'm only 30 seconds in.
I highly disagree! native American tribes and nations faught eachother just like anyother people around the world for resources.
What resources? I think the Cherokee conquered using politics not force.
@@MrAmhara well your mistaken. and I was referring to all native Amarican tribes not the Cherokee in particular. to be honest all human groups have fought and conquered.
This is a true statement.
If they didn't trade or others weren't willing to share, then you know what happened.
We are still one people.
Does anyone know the name of the ballad sung in this video? It's beautiful!!
Sir, keep the videos coming! This is pbs worthy lol
I am a direct decendant of Cherokee Chief Red Bird whom once assimilated took the Christain name Arin Brock of Harlan County Kentucky.
i know a handful of those Brocks.
Then we're kin!
Didn’t the Cherokee guy just say they, owned 7 states at one time. Which they did by conquering. Lol
They owned a lot of land before the Europeans came.
Possibly more.
Phyllis Littlejohn no such thing as owning land
Only "White" people are guilty of conquering! People of color are all innocent!!!
So the women were in change of Native American Tribes. And men were in charge of the European settlers. And who won again?
Thanks for this history lesson…with love muscogee creek nation here
You may be a Scot but the term Scotch has been used in Georgia U.S. ever since I can remember. It only recently has been called out.
The Appalachian people can quote the King James Bible verbatim. They do it in a strange sweet sing songy way with a little smile on their face. It’s quite lovely as some of them cannot read or write.
"the appalachian people" - like they're all the same, they can all quote the bible lol identity politics is the woooorst
😂😂😂 wtf
@@shredmetalshred7395 right. Appalachian here, and I can’t quote the Bible verbatim. lol
Don’t know anyone that can, as far as I recollect, though I’m sure there’s some out there that can.
Scotch is whiskey. It’s “Scots-Irish,” not “Scotch-Irish.” These folks should know this.
you'd think the majority would understand that they're Ulster-Scots, not Scots-Irish ...
As a Scott’s Irish I agree
If you're going to be pedantic, you could at least spell "whisky" correctly. ;)
The "whiskey" spelling is widely used by Irish and American distillers, but traditionally Scotch doesn't use the "e."
Thanks for sharing, cultural imperialist. I think the Scotch-Irish know what name they choose to use in reference to themselves. And there is no such thing as "Scotch whiskey" in Scotland. To the Scots, it is just whisky. Scotch Whiskey is the name outsiders have mis-named it, to distinguish it from other types of whisky the Scots themselves would never think of drinking.
@@marifromky Thankfully, the Scots-Irish have you to tell them they are referring to themselves "wrong."
I am English, Irish/scottish and German. I love Appalachia.
Thx! I am from West Virginia (the middle of Appalachia)
Both my mother and father's families were from Appalachia and had Cherokee great-grandmothers. Don't see many Cherokee in Appalachia these days.
This story has a lot of " Grey Areas" which are missing. They need more research.
Cherokee had slaves read about the Cherokee slave revolt and held slaves after the civil war
Can you tell me where to find that?
Right, & out of the 5 Civilized Tribes the Cherokees were the biggest owner of black slaves.
History is so cool and funny !!! So much to learn about other cultures and their traditions !!! 👍👍👍
Don't let Lakota tribe bully you... Remember you were the top five that were civilized something to be proud..I love you my Cherokee brothers and sisters even though I'm only 1/16 and mainly Irish's Scot's
They seem so underrated. I've been to the Rockies but these look more interesting and pretty for some reason. Maybe it's the trees? I'm gonna take a drive down from Indiana and go some exploring
Yes a different forest region.
2:55 proves this is nothing but politically correct revisionism.
This was happening long before the words "politically incorrect" existed.
Try politically incorrect because under something that is politically incorrect that which is wrong is right and that which is right is wrong.
There is nothing politically correct if it is wrong in the first place.
@@phyllislittlejohn3248 • I would like to know the truth. (I don't care about political correctness.)
You're wrong mate, at least in the case of the Cherokee. War was a police action for them, more oft than not. Picture the sheriff in old western movies assembling a posse to get the bad guy hiding out in the wilderness. They also had a well developed system of justice, which you would do well to read about. 👌
Just walked down a mountain and found a burial site untouched tones of artifacts
9th Generation upper Greenville County SC.
Originally from the Galbraith Clan near Edinburgh..
My family was here on this land co-existing with natives since before the revolution.
Thanks for sharing. Is there a place I can see a list of music credits? I recognize one of the songs and would love to know who sings it....
Born in Boston in 1960, I was always fascinated by the history of our nation, but it's always bothered me that they were here long before us, I feel guilty of something, even though society was already entrenched at my birth era, it's odd to feel that way but I can't help think our land really wasn't our land, idk. 🙏
The land belonged to the Native Americans and the Europeans came with guns and stole the land as with everything else. Sad.
Now they still think their guns and assault weapons are the answer.
They trying to take over America by force again. They feel the Black, Red and Yellow people don't belong or should prosper.
The point is that anywhere you live, doesn't matter what lineage you are from, you inherit the land that has been cultivated by the people who lived there before you. The European settlers didn't enter wild nature everywhere they went, humans before them had already altered the landscape which made it habitual for other humans to settle with ease. So when colonizers steal the land which has already been prepared by cultivation through millenia of hard labor they really do commit a crime of theft. People forget that the earth has been cultivated to serve our needs and that actual human beings are responsible for that. You live on the riches of generations of peoples that have been forgotten since they left no monuments behind for you to see. They didn't care about monumental works, they lacked the cultural ideas that come with having reproducable scripts and that's a shame because now you have no reference to acknowledge them for their great deeds; the cultivation of the land you are living on. Atleast the Aztecs had their temples that showed their lasting significance. Land and crops are taken for granted. I'm from Holland and the same applies to the land I'm living on. This land is reclaimed from the sea, a technique that was created through the centuries by necessity and approved upon by each generation. I feel proud of the people who did that because I can see the dykes every day that keep me dry and safe. It used be endless swamps and lakes here when the Romans arrived, they didn't even bother to conquer it because the labor it would take to cultivate it was too intensive for it to produce something worthy. it took a millenium
The entire world at some point belonged to someone else and was conquered by others but for some reason we are guilt tripped about it.
My great grandmother was half Cherokee Indian and white. She was so beautiful 😍
Amazing little documentary! I was wondering what song the guy is singing at 8:52, i've been trying to find it online for an hour now🥲 Can someone maybe give me a hand?😅
My wife's family comes from the hills of western Virginia. Interestingly enough she is 1/4 Native American though we aren't sure exactly what clan her great grandparents were from though it is said they were Cherokee.
What of the people that were already in the area of Kentucky, when the Cherokee entered the area? It is said that they were great, fearsome warriors, and their spirits still roam the area.
You're not allowed to talk about that. Universities have a propaganda machine that needs feeding. That story you speak of, doesn't fit the diet plan.
@@josephcampese5347 relax buddy
notes for class. KCTCS Appalachian studies.
Early 17th century, small number of Europeans settle.
First people were ancestors of modern native americans. Shawnee, Choctaw, and Creek. dominate tribe Cherokee.
Cherokee were mainly farmers.
Woman had economic authority over crop, autonomy. Men lived in womens household, heirs were his niece and nephew, not own children.
Older women were part of council.
Natives went to war to avenge their kinsman.
Their tradition allowed them to bring outsiders in to the tribe.
Cherokee seen people as kinsman or enemies.
Captives taken from battle were adopted in to klans, same with escaped slaves.
It was possible to be adopted in to a klan.
1730s, ancestors of appalachians went to the mountains, Germans, English and Wales. Most prominent were Irish.
After a century in Ulster, Scotch irish migrated to America, Appalachia.
Scotch Irish amongst first to make the Appalachia home.
Germans known for rules, building staunch barns.
Scotch irish were of fighting stock.
Hell yeah Appalachia! I live in Grundy, Va which is right in central Appalachia. Coal field s.
Adoption and vengeance are quite common across the continent
You might say "forced adoption and vengeance."
In the past as well as in the present in some cases.
My family got caught up in the warfare going on in Scotland which was of course related to the English civil war in the mid 1600s. They were on the losing side, migrated to Belfast, then starting in the early 1700s travelled over to North Carolina bit by bit. So typical Scots- Irish. Though I never liked that name since there's not much Irish about them. But whatever. Family roots are important to Americans, particularly southerners. I'm almost pureblood Scottish, even after all these centuries. When I finally visited Scotland it was weird that although it was a different culture.. there was just something vaguely familiar about it all, even though I had never been there or ever met a Scottish person prior. Eerie feeling. It was kind of amusing when I ran across citizens in Scotland and chatting with them realized I actually had more Scottish ancestry than they did. Course I didn't say that. Americans have an obnoxious enough reputation.
But growing up in the south you get to know people and understand them on a deeper level and that's why it's so frustrating to see the negative stereotypes and views people have about Southerners. Especially poor, rural folk. Because you know them, you live with them day by day. and you know things just aren't that way.
As far as the Cherokee go, indian tribes in general... people have to remember things go both ways..Settlers in Appalachia faced almost daily, certainly weekly attacks all along the entire area from the Cherokee, and farther south the Creek. And the atrocities from the natives were... quite unpleasant. But you know.. you get by. And most southerners greatly respect the Cherokee today.
Try summarizing your story to a paragraph or shorter and maybe someone will read it 😅😂🤣🤣
The fact your family came in the 1700s and you still believe you’re pure Scottish is comical
@@deeznuts6907 If I couldn't trace my lineage back that far it would be. And I said almost.
My Scottish Lowland Clan was one of the Border Reiver Clans or Steel Bonnets, to reive means to theive. I still live in my clan's lands. The English had Reiver Families & we looted pillaged each other's stock with impunity. Beacons of fire were lit to warn the English when we were spotted on the move across the Borders. We feuded amongst each other, made convenient alliances, could hold grudges for hundreds of years, took bribes & trusted nobody. My clan fought with Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn as did other Lowland Clans. The Scottish/English Borders ran from the West to the East of Britain.
As James VI of Scotland & Ist of England united the two kingdoms, he exiled us Reiver Clans to Ireland, mostly what is Ulster today, their accent still has undertones of Lowland Scottish in it.
We were also sent to the New Lands. The Lowland Clearings were as devastating for us as the Highland Clearings. I don't know if some English Reiver Families were also exiled, would be interesting to find out, but wouldn’t be surprised, I've never asked any of my English Reiver Family friends.
People who had been my mortal enemies across the Borders, are now my friends & we've married into each other's families since the Clearing. Many Scottish & English Reivers have stayed where their ancestor's have always lived, but with the movement of people more & more incomers, who have nothing in common with either of us Reivers are living in our communities.
Here in the Western lowlands of Scotland we have what's known as the Marches, which define North, South, East & West borders areas of the Reiver Clans. These are the Reiver's lands. Just by surname we know from which Reiver Marche they originate. The Riding of the Marches still takes place every year. I don't know if they ride the Marches over the North East of Scottish/English, but can't see why not.
There's many sites that can tell you where those of your original surname originated, if you're interested. It might be that you're not of any Lowland Clan, but these are the Clans who were exiled. Avoid any site of Ancestry or Border Reiver Clans put out by the Church of Latter Day Saints, just a load of misinformation a pal told me.
I have to pick you up on a couple of things.
First off, there was no 'English Civil War'. It was 'The War of The Three Kingdoms'.
Second. I can guarantee you are nowhere near 'pureblood Scots'. Scotland is, and always has been a melting pot of cultures, you've had Celts, Gaels, Norse, Norman, Angles, Brythonic, Jute, Dutch, Saxon. Since the 1700's when your ancestors headed to the New World, they'd have bred with other cultures, so you're far from 'purebred Scots', my friend. Sorry to break that to you, and you certainly won't have more Scots ancestry than Scots living here. Your Surname means very little. You may be of 'Scots' descent, but you are not Scots. Please get that straight in your head.
My ancestors were French Acadian. They were exiled from Nova Scotia and scattered. Mine settled in the swamp regions of Louisiana.
My grandparents were beaten in grade school for not speaking English.
"Speak English" they said...
My own lineage is of the Scots-Irish that migrated back to Scotland and stayed there instead of onto the new world. I reckon when we arrived at the Appalachian mountains, we saw something of the mountains of home in Scotland and Ireland.
This clip concentrates on the southern portion of the Appalachian Mountains region. The Appalachians also extend into PA., New York State even into Maine I hope that the northern regions are also discussed in other clips.
I agree.
Very true and I have had the priviledge of actually climbing on part of the Applachian Mountains in New York State. It's a beautiful site. Can you imagine many of the Native Americans (Cherokee) travelling on it to get into to Canada, etc.? We had it rough.
Thanks for the info I was unaware that the Cherokees roamed that far north. That is why we need one or two more clips that center on the northern Applachians, a very different history and culture such as the Borscht Belt comedy club circuit in New York state as an example.
I agree. They should focus on us more and I forgot to tell you, the Cherokee roamed as far North as Maine but when the "Trial of Tears" came about, we got scattered all over the place, including Canada. There are many Cherokee in Newfoundland, Canada and in Alaska, there is an island where the Cherokee live and own. After all, we did cross the Bering Strait as did so many other nations.
I've been and visited the part of the Appalachians which is in New York State in an area known as Peekskill, New York. I was climbing it in my sandals because it is a very scenic area.
the coolest thing about Appalachians is that they persist today and all the people there today have their founder markings.
cool thing about Appalachian to me was my great grandpa had 800 acres of land I grew up on 😁 I love the woods, I've never been in a city that had big buildings like 5 or more stories tall, I think it would freak me out, only 3 story building I've even seen in real life is a hospital about an hour & half away, I'm kinda afraid of them, I can't stand elevators but I had a booboo that put me in a motorized wheelchair, I try real hard not to have to go to no hospitals for nothing, stupid elevator's freak me out & break me out in a sweat & pound my heart 😨 I hate them....
@@tlctammie1884 have you ever been outside? Or had a job?
Seems there are a few of us here ; who’s families have been in North America since late 1600’s .
Matriarchial line does NOT mean, women had anything to say in the Cherokee society. It just means one could say this child is from that woman because it popped out of her. The fathers - most of the time - were not known because "sleeping around" was more or less the norm. Before the discovery of DNA nobody knew for sure WHO sired a certain child. That is why societies who wanted to make sure that a man could pass on his property to a child that was sired by him and NOT by another man !
That statement can be said about any ethnic group. The fathers probably didn't know them upon the arrival of Europeans as well as the separation they caused.
In Cherokee society, it did actually. You inherited through your mother, the woman owned the home, and women had a say in government. Especially Beloved Women (war women). They decided the fate of all captives for instance.
@@Tsalagi978 Nothing to be proud of for being a "warrior woman".
Women should get their worth from being gentle, loving, and caring in raising the young,
not from trying to outdo the men.
Often enough women (due to their extreme cruelty) were more feared than the men by the hapless
prisoners. Nothing to be proud of.
Darn shame this video failed to include contemporary accounts of lacrosse as played by the Native Americans by many tribes. Fighting would be suspended between them and the settlers and replaced by a lacrosse game. Very few rules, only the mountains unbounded as a playing field, a goal to place the ball and score, and many a broken leg, arm and skull. The settles never won but played nevertheless. The old accounts go on at some length and are fascinating. Maybe, we should brutal games rather than fight wars.
French saw the lacrosse stick which reminded them of 'the cross' carried by priest
lacross is not Appalachian it was played elsewhere
@@shredmetalshred7395 it is an eastern woodland game,I have several gamestones and a room full of artifacts.I am on the French Broad in eastern Tenn there was a village on an island across from our farm
Field may be 400 yards,last for 2 days!If you were wounded ...you came back in when you recovered
"The Original" people ? ? ?......I'm part Choctaw & Chickasaw. We have Stories that say Others were there before us....Some were giants....We killed them. Where THEY the "Original"....or did they kill the others ? ? ?
5 Peaceful tribes, my ass.
1 + !
Tens of thousands of years of unknown world history. Especially in America. Im sure the land changed hands tens of thousands of times
My mother's side of the family was viking mixed with English and Indian & that side of my family was Giants Mom was 6/2 grampa was 7 ft.
"You don't become part owner of 7 states by being meek." Also said "they didn't go to war for land or resources."?
There were many Irish that were slaves of the Cherokee. Many of them married Cherokee women, and became assimilated in there culture.....
Cherokees were in fact not black. they were the lightest skinned of all the tribes. some even sported beards. some people should get their facts straight.
Dennis Gross nonsense. That is a theory by jews. All wrong man
Dennis Gross ..beards....ok then dude
Well they where damn sure not White either
No one never said that they were
luigee78 I guess he was talking about when the white people lied to become $2 Indian so that they can reap the benefit of being a Indian black people never claimed to be Indian they was adopted by the Cherokee so that's what made them Cherokee and as far as the government they made Indians black if you check your history it was called the maroon and the freedmen collected on the United States census
if we had to visualize this wilderness environment I'm thinking trees would have been huge..
That is correct.
Sandy Beebe Yes. I have 1 tree over 6’ thick another over 5’ they grew from ancient stumps cut about 250-300 years ago.
If I remember correctly some tribes did controlled burns in forests to control the undergrowth, making travel and hunting game easier.
My dad , friend and I went hunting at the high knob recreation area in Virginia. We found an old chestnut tree trunk. The diameter was probably 12 feet. It was about 10 feet tall and about 1/4 of it was gone from deteriorating. Dad shot a doe while the three of us hunted from inside the trunk. Dad said when he was young the large chestnut trees were common and all sorts of game, occasionally deer, squirrels ., and sometimes bears. He said the woods were beautiful and little else grew under the chestnut canary looking like a park. He said one tree would have multiple squirrels in it which they relied on as a supplement to their farm diet of chickens, hogs and every once in a while a young cow.
I tried to do a painting of such huge trees in the mist of a small area where Native Americans lived ..and even for my creative mind I could not be content with what was really there in the early 16-17 hundreds .This was like painting something I had never seen before so needless to say I was discontent with the out come .as u can imagine. These huge trees made the humans look like ants = so tiny ..Never cut red woods out in California are a good example of what I'm talking about . Photos with humans in them of these red woods did make the humans look tiny ..
Why has this clip received such a negative backlash.?
In the words of Roddy Piper "Scotch is what a Scotsman drinks"
Those are all my ancestors, my gr grandfather from Wales married a Cherokee lady. Another ancestor fled the potato famine in Ireland. Another was a German immigrant, and a whole mishmash of all sorts of mongrels:)
Jenny Lee same for me
@@yallhatebaadddyoung7356 Me too
I understand where you're coming from pertaining to that statement.
Where I'm from that "smoky look" is just called fog to us, and it sucks sometimes while driving in the mountains. It can get pretty thick. 😂
It may be some of popcorn Sutton moonshine still giving some of the fog! Just hate the way he took his life!
Got the Irish, scotch, and Indian in me and I'm proud of my grand daddy running shine.
These mountains will always be my home