Diagnosing a Riding Lawnmower that Randomly Shuts Off
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2020
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Today we'll be going over a Craftsman riding lawn mower that randomly shuts off while cutting grass.
My customer said after about 20 minutes, it would lose power and shut off slowly, as if it wasn't getting fuel.
He also mentioned that when he would try to restart it, nothing would happen, as if the battery would be completely drained.
Then, when he would go to remove it, he said the cables would be hot.
Once he pushed the mower back to his garage and charged the battery, he said the mower would start right up and run just fine.
Sounds like we have an intermittent electrical issue to resolve!
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This one is a little long, but there's a ton of great electrical information I wanted to add in. One of these days I'll have to make a separate standalone Parasitic Draw video. Hope you guys enjoy!
Nicely detailed, appreciated 🤙🏼
Appreciated your vid ..
My Q is is a lengthy description
I have an older Craftsman lt1000
.. B & S ..
Sat all year, replaced new Battery, air filter, Fuel filter, & belts
Initially rough start, but ran approx 30 mins then ‘silently died’.. wouldn’t even turn over (as if it was dead)
.. 10 or so mins later, it did start but extremely ROUGH idle
.. shut it off,--.. shortly later started & ran fine for approx 20-25 mins, this time it slowly sputtered then died,
shortly later it started, idle was fine ( ✋🏼 not rough) but died again after approx 20 min run 🤷🏼♀️ .. back & forth ..
Hopefully you can throw some ideas
My couple thoughts, coil is getting hot? .. or solenoid .. or something with fuel line .. I’m not that savvy with mowers, but trying to learn .. 😉
Thank you for your time 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Great Job! Don’t mind the length of the Video. Very Detailed,
Thank You
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I have the same problem with some of my so called friends. They tend to be a parasitic draw in my life.
Oh I also am more knowledgeable about the mower diagnoses with this type of problem.
Thanks for the detailed process.
Very very good job sir. Fantastic explanations and clear explanations. Nice job.
I have a motorhome that rats have chewed wires on and plan to start hunting the short that was caused and wasn't sure how to start searching but this video made it so much easier.
Thank you very much for the information and GOD BLESS YOU RICHLY
Spock from Star Trek would be proud of you! Very Logical! Your methodical detail is appreciated. You are the best small engine teacher/repairman I've seen. Thank you for sharing and I hope you can find time to continue doing these videos.
I like the way you work . Back to the basics . This is not rocket science. Good job .
If it were my machine, I would clean all the accumulated D I R T off it before returning it. Super video, well explained, sir. Kudos
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video, Many of those Craftsman riders had the chokes not adjusted correctly from the factory. I had one this week that customer said started hard when cold. Choke was slightly open when on full choke. I adjusted it and it starts way faster now. I have had several of these over the past few years. Thanks for the video's.
Yea I never choked it and it hadn't ran for a couple days, eventually fired up lol thanks for watching!
Eliminator Performance. It’s truly amazing how big problems develop from such little things that people commonly overlook. Over the years, I have made protective boots from sections of rubber hose and or good quality split loom to protect cables, heater hoses and radiator hoses. Recently, I was gifted a very similar garden tractor to the one featured in your video. The reason for the previous owners getting rid of the garden tractor was that they thought that the steering was bad. After I took possession of the garden tractor, I started the engine and went for a drive. Everything worked pretty much as it should. After mowing for a while in an area where I could test the steering - I drove the tractor back to my driveway and immediately attempted greasing the steering spindles. The left spindle took grease, but the right side would not take grease. The next day, I purchased a new battery and so I mowed in another area where I would be steering quite a bit. I tried greasing the right spindle and which accepted grease as it should. The Lucas Red N Tacky did the trick. Thanks For The Very Good Video.
Thanks for watching!
Outstanding video! My new house came with an old snapper mower, started randomly shutting off on me a few weeks ago. Thank you for the starting points!
Thanks for watching, good luck!
Impressive. Concise diagnosis and explanation. I enjoy your work.
Thanks for watching!
Really good video for us to get a better understand how to troubleshoot the tractor circuitry and doing a visual inspection of the wiring in very important too.
I have a similar Craftsman that had a new 20HP Briggs and Stranton engine installed. I had the steering sort of lock us on me once until I forced it, then I had a problem of the engine puttering for a period of time like it was starving for fuel, but cleared itself. So, I'll be doing a visual inspection of the wiring soon. Thanks friend for this video, you get good by us.
Great explanations, very thorough! Much appreciated! I've had similar problems with my mower, look forward to applying your solution!
Thanks for watching!
Love your videos. Very well explained step by step. Thanks
Excellent instructional video. Very informative and well done. Thank you!
Great diagnosis. I have to keep this one in my memory in case I see the same problem
Thanks for watching!
Very informative video. You were mentioning about finding a parasitic draw on a vehicle and said you pull fuses and check voltage between the pins. This could extend your diagnostic time if the parasitic draw is from a module not going to sleep. By removing the fuse or disconnecting the negative battery cable you basically forced it to sleep and the draw would go away. Yanking fuses and cables only works when there are no modules involved.
Great job explaining everything.
Excellent result. Explained well.Thanks.
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Excellent video. I’m having similar issues with my Craftsman LTX 1000 and this gives me a starting point for troubleshooting.
Great video man. Very in-depth.
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You are amazing. Right to the point, with excellent diagnostics tips anyone can understand. I've watched 3 videos in the past week and I learn something valuable every time. I don't even look for Simpliciy vidoes since it appears the brand doesn't really matter. First was the solenoid switch, then the start switch, now the random cut out, which is what I'm dealing with. If that's not it, I'll be back to look for the next video. You make it fun to troubleshoot. (and easy). I also like that you explain what is going on and how everything works. That's the icing on the cake. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for watching, good luck!
Right to the point? Lol, they could have shortened this to a 5 minute video and still given the same information without all the extra stuff. It’s very detailed, but right to the point is a far stretch. 😂
Great job on this video. You did a very good job explaining the electrical system. Keep up the good videos. Ron B Michigan
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Absolutely fantastic vid, thanks from Seattle
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Bro, that was possibly the best, clearest and easiest to understand video I've seen on CZcams. No filler. No language. Clear annunciation. Clean shots. Really, really good. And it solved my issue. 👍Thank you
Nicely explained. Well done! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Nice diagnostic work.
Another Well Explained Video, Great Work
Great video thanks for sharing
Nice job. When servicing a customer tractor I always go over the wiring looking for what you just found, making sure wires aren't near or touching moving parts and rubbing on unprotected surfaces. I just add a few minutes to the service time and add a couple bucks to the bill. Pays in the long run when indicating this simple inspection on the bill. Nobody complained yet.
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You’re awesome man, I appreciate your videos
Awesome video thanks from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
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Yes yes yes. Thanks. That's what is going on with mine. Thank you very much
Great video bud. Thanks
Thanks for another awesome Lesson
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Eliminator Performance, You sound quite knowledgeable and have good sense. It would be best if you try to articulate certain technicalities properly. For anyone reading this, electricity does not take the path of least resistance. Electricity takes all paths. I know what Eliminator was getting at, being a short is a path of less resistance than the intended path which has components in it which have higher resistance values, but never the less the electricity will take all paths available. A short turns a series circuit in to a parallel circuit. It might seem like a nit pick but it's important for proper fundamental understanding. Especially for beginners.
Excellent!! All around Excellent!!
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Nice job my friend well played
Good video on an intermittent domino effect and repair. An eye for hidden factors is a plus to being a successful mechanic. J K
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Very well done.
Great video! Forensic Files for mowers.
Thanks for this very interesting video
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Great video
Excellent.
perfectly done
Your video gives me a good idea what I need to look at I have a mower that's giving me a problem like that
Great tips👍
Thanks for watching!
Great video !
Love your videos
I think this is the first of your videos I’ve watched. Very impressed with the quality of all facets of production. Great volume, lighting, camera work. Excellent vocal narration - easy to hear and understand. Very logical and easy to follow diagnostic process. If I have any criticism it’s that some narration is repeated, which I take to be as a result of editing various clips without an actual script. Hardly a problem. Thumbs up and subscribed. Looking forward to watching all your videos and continuing to learn from them. Thanks for doing such a great job! 🙏👍🔧🧰🚗
This one was kind of on the fly, as I didn't know what the issue was. I have a newer electrical diagnosis video that's about 30mins long, where I go through the proper steps of diagnosis! czcams.com/video/vJWbfSxHY1Y/video.html
Eliminator Performance Beat you to it! Already watched that one this morning. Only problem is the promised links to others is missing but I did some digging around and found that group myself. Another excellent lesson! 👍🙏🔧🧰🚗
@@Rein_Ciarfella they should pop up on mobile, or computer in the top right. If not, you have to click the i button in the corner to find them. CZcams is weird sometimes, you're not the 1st person to mention that, thanks!
Eliminator Performance. Watching them mostly on an iPad, which doesn’t show the i in the corner. Some creators always post all the links in their description and some duplicate those in a comment they stickie to the top of comments. That way anyone who watches the video is going to see them one way or another. Good practice for the time when you have big sponsors. 😉
It sound like my buddy's lawn I went and checked it out and fixed it thank you
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Awesome vids man! thanks
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Good video!!! Thanks!!!👍👍
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Got a used Craftsman a few weeks ago. It appeared pretty clean and well taken care of. But it had randomly died on me a few times. Seemed to happen when I'd push down the brake. Don't guess it's a big issue though, since it only happens on occasion and it'll start right back up afterwards.
It's also backfired a couple of times. Though, idk if it's related, and I can't recall it happening in correlation with any specific action that I did.
has ran ??? has run !!! eliminate the over use of " basically"
Good job
Thanks for watching!
Boy you lucked out with the owener telling you about the hot ground wire and you knowing your shit. i've hunted for a few hour's , and found it under the mower were some on adding a tail light. have a ggeat day Bob
Always ask the questions, as many as I can! Thanks for watching!
Had a 20 year old Deere 185 that stalled after about 10 to 15 min. turned out to be the fuel shut off valve was full of grass. cleaned it out & was fine from there on.
Man you helped me so much. Mine was a bad fuse connection.
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
Good video
Thanks for watching!
You have solved my problem.along with 5 shade tree mechanics.😁
What was the issue?
hi wendell from Puerto Rico thats for the information
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Great example of a parasitic draw. I actually learned something today. Thanks
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Any videos on a b&g twin hunting?
Good day Boy interesting. Solving that sounds simple now after video. Yes I guess asking questions help. UU would make a good detective. LOL Thanks really good solving solution
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@@EliminatorPerformance Wow
I have a 19.5hp ariens that is currently having a fuel starvation/stalling issues and its driving me nuts. I am assuming its back to the ignition. I see no issues with weak or broken wires. the solenoid is fine.
Had my mower battery connected to charger at regular 12 volt.
Let it run a little while and noticed the hit lead got very hot. Looked like it was starting to melt the clamp cover.
Shorted battery?
Cranks and dies.
It was running for a few minutes before it quit. Last few times, it would just start up then die.
Can you leave the ground cable connected and use a clamp meter to check for amp draw with switch off?
I tried it with meter set to 40 and 400 to 600. Got zero reading at both settings.
Well diagnosed Sherlock, it pays to be a detective in the small engine repair business. Got lucky with this find sometimes it is in the wiring harness somewhere.
Thanks for watching!
I have a new battery also. What is the number I need to see when testibg the battery with the multimeter
Hello, same mower I have same problem. I checked cables and all connections to make sure are in, tight and free of any damage. Everything checked out fine cranked it ran for 10 minutes and did it again died slowly. So I am thinking it's a fuel issue. What do you think?
4:05 And I bet that's why the new battery I got for my truck went dead so quickly, years ago. One of many reasons it's just been sitting and collecting rust the last 5 or so years. 😑
My DGS 6500 random shuts off "abruptly". Could it be a safety switch?
I ask questions like it’s a murder case, with enough questions they will tell you what is wrong with it, just put the peace’s together
I'm working on a 04 gt 5000 craftsman putting new belts on it. It runs good till I engage the deck then it cuts the motor. What is that causing it?
Probably a seat switch.
@@EliminatorPerformance well I just checked all my connections and the hot cable to the starter felt loose so I wiggled it and the connection to the solenoid broke off in my hand. U think that may be the reason?? Lol
6:35 never knew the magneto charged the battery, lol
Yea the magneto charges the battery and supplies the current for the headlights as well, the coil produces spark for the spark plug!
@@EliminatorPerformance the magneto is another word for the ignition coil. The stator/alternator/charging coil is what puts power to accessories and charges the battery. Magneto is not a term for stator
@@nickflopper the words can be interchangeable, stator/coil/magneto can be a stationary coil for ignition, or a device for supplying alternating current for the charging system. If you Google magneto charging system you'll see what I mean, as well as some diagrams. I simply use magneto (charging) and coil (spark) as terms.
Help please, my riding mower does'nt start, I used a spark plug tester to test for spark and i get a spark connect the spark wire back to the spark plug and won't start but if I leave the spark plug tester in line between the spark wire and the spark plug it will run, what could be the problem?? Thank for any help.
what carb is on that motor?
I have a bad ignition switch
Goid video except fuses don't have a hot and a groung. It's hot in and thru the fuse and hot out.
Thanks for watching, and yes it's all on the hot side, I juet meant testing between the red and black (positive and negative) on the multimeter!
But you knew what he meant didn’t you and you know that he knows what he’s talking about so you just wanna sound like an ass
@@TheTinkle1 no just in case he wanted to edit it.
I just produced a full quart.
Where is your shop i live in Tweed Ontario
Port Colborne!
Bad coil no good😮
The screws came loose in the seat and caused me to lose control and run over a steel pipe sticking up out of the ground.
Kubota tractor randomly shuts off. Won't start when you hear a click noise.
Where's the deck?
Customer removed it before bringing it over, thanks for watching!
How can he mow? No deck.
i havea harqvarna riding lawn mower doing something like that. i worked out to be a vapor lock in the fuel line. i insulated the fuel line. no more problems. The fuel line to close to the motor
Nice, check your gas cap too and make sure it vents properly! Thanks for watching!
Why didn't you start it and show that your repair was sucsessful?
Wow speaking Chinese to me lol
You need to talk less
Other than that good vid
parasitic draw said 100 times in this video or was it 200 times. He must of learned a new word today ..lol very informative but very drawn out. get to the point next time. dude you like to talk. if we were friends i dont think i would get a word in.
Wish u live next door.i could really used some help..got q craftsman 287707 1255 E3..it currently does start at all..any ideas that could cause it not to start or even tune over..
Great video
Great video